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Don't even consider flying American to Shanghai
Posted Mon August 24, 2009 4:22 pm, by Wesley R. written to American Airlines, Inc.
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I recently had very poor service on a flight from Chicago to Shanghai, July 18. The flight attendants were all rather old women. This may be a product of union rules, but it made me feel unsafe when you consider the possibility of an emergency. While this may be a desirable "reward" route, they weren't very friendly. One was so obese that she ran into my shoulder nearly every time she went up the aisle during the 13 hour flight, and never once apologized. Another turned off my overhead light without asking. The final straw came when one addressed my wife as "YOU," when it came time to raise the seat back for landing, not "Ma'am," not "Miss," certainly not "Doctor." This would be shockingly rude service even from a teen at a fast food place. Are they taught to assume that Asian-looking passengers can't speak English well enough to be offended? This was the absolute worst airline service I have ever received.
If this crew is at all representative of senior flight attendants at American Airlines, then they need to send them all back to be completely retrained. Better yet, go out of business and free up a route for a competing airline that knows how to serve passengers.
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by Wesley R. Posted Tue August 25, 2009 @ 5:01 PM
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I was inspired by the intensity of the defense to do a little research. The respondents have made it clear that I personally don't know rudeness when I see it.
Of the airlines offering Chicago to Shanghai service, only Asiana is rated a Five Star airline by Skytrax. Seven others are rated at four stars: Korean Air, EVA Air, All Nippon Airways, Turkish Airlines, Lufthansa, Air France, and British Airways.
Here comes the big surprise, American Airlines comes in at three stars, for "poor or less consistent standards of Staff Service." Their rating on JD Power was identical.
Wouldn't a little training help with the inconsistency? Just sayin'
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Do you know why you had "older" flight attendants with American Airlines? Because they haven't hired new flight attendants in 20 years (told to me by an AA flight attendant the last time I flew).
You seriously think some hot young thang who's 22 is going to be better at handling an emergency than a 50-year-old woman who's been doing that kind of work for over two decades? I don't think so.
And I don't think flight attendants are the only profession that can't tell that someone's a "doctor" just by looking at them.
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However...
by Just Jeffrey Wed August 26, 2009 @ 9:00 AM
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by PepperElf Posted Tue August 25, 2009 @ 12:15 PM
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i wasn't aware airlines were suppose to scan the passenger list to pick the doctors out
is it actually on her tickets?
and i don't see where the age should be an issue
if the airline judges them capable of performing their duties.... should they be fired just because they "look old"?
as for "YOU"
that all depends on the context in which it was used.
and how do you know they did it because she's asian?
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Tue August 25, 2009 @ 7:11 AM
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It's remarkably bad business to teach your crew to be rude to Asian people when their route is to China. I have to imagine that there are more Chinese and Chinese-ancestry passengers on such a flight than, say, to Senagal.
Let's be clear: your charge is not that this particular flight attendant was showing her own racist tendencies. Your charge is that airline's training program includes the instruction to their employees to be actively racist towards a decent sized group of their customers.
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I need YOU to raise your seat back to the upright position.......hmmmm sounds fine to me.
I need the Doctor to raise your seat back to the upright position........unless you wearing a stethoscope around your neck, how is the flight attendent to know you are a nurse, or better yet a doctor?
Good Day
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Or
by Just Jeffrey Tue August 25, 2009 @ 7:04 AM
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by olie Posted Mon August 24, 2009 @ 10:32 PM
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I'll admit right now that I have not been on a plane that is large enough to fly from Chicago to Shanghai.
My latest flight was 2 seats on each side of an aisle. The aisle appeared to be just wide enough to accommodate the attendant's cart--much less anyone weighing more than, say, 150 lbs.
As for addressing your wife with a title: How in the world is anyone supposed to do this without insulting someone? I know I was not terribly happy to be addressed as "Ma'am" when I was 25. But "Miss"-- I was married, thank you, at 22.
And, really, did the flight attendant KNOW that your wife was a "doctor"?
The main issue here: Did you get to Shanghai safely?
That would be my big concern.
After that: Did the toilets work? Could I breathe without a mask? For a13-hour flight--were you offered some type of non-alcoholic beverage? I assume you *knew* that the flight would last 13 hours, so you had your own snacks.
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by Even Steven Posted Mon August 24, 2009 @ 6:11 PM
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Maybe she assumed that your wife didn't understand the captain's announcement, which is always made before the flight attendants walk the aisles repeating the instructions. You ask if they are taught to assume things, but you seem to be doing a bit of that yourself.
Good luck finding that mythical airline that no passenger will ever complain about.
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