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American Express Lowered My Credit Limit Following Payment
Posted Sat April 5, 2008 12:00 pm, by mike s. written to American Express Credit Cards
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I recently made a $7000.00 payment on my AmEx and was rewarded by having my limit dropped $8000.00 two days later. I use AmEx as a business tool and now have had available cash sucked into a black hole when the intention was to lower my balance ratio by paying down a portion of the card. Now I am worse off then when I started.
Certainly AmEx cannot be trusted as a business tool if they lower your credit limit every time you pay down your balance. I am approaching this as a good faith payment to them and that they have failed to hold up their end of the bargain. If they need to lower lines in a credit crunch they at least need to give notice to allow for customers to plan accordingly before losing access to their cash by paying off AmEx.
Start giving notice of pending line reductions to allow business customers to plan accordingly, and put my limit back where it was. No on seems to know why it was lowered so everything must be ok.
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by John T. Posted Fri January 22, 2010 @ 4:10 PM
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Same here. I had been a card "member" for over 22 years. Was at a business meeting out of town and they arbitrarily reduced our credit limit after we made a payment in full. Problem was, we were charging because we were out of town, so charges started to get declined, for all my employees. And since my personal card was somehow linked to by business card, they froze that too. Mind you, I never had a late payment and always paid on time. Over the past five years, I've charged over $2 million with them.
Lesson learned. I closed all my Amex card accounts and switched to other banks that didn't cross personal & business spending. I can be small minded and hold a grudge, so I look forward to the day when they come crawling back (and they will) and I tell them that I need to lower MY risk profile by not including an Amex card in my wallet.
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by Caryne Posted Thu January 21, 2010 @ 9:57 PM
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Actually after my payment in full online they decided to cancel my card. When my husband tried to use the card it was declined.. When I got my final bill they had said they had cut my credit line in 1/2.. What I don't understand is how they took an approximate 3.5 billion dollar bailout and then do this to everyone?! When I asked their Exec to the CEO she told me it wasn't my business.. Umm HELLO part of your bailout was the consumers money.. Maybe the govt should have ran a credit check on you.. and limited your bailout so you can fall flat on your face.. Thank Goodness for filing complaints with Better Business Bureau
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by Carol S. Posted Fri November 20, 2009 @ 1:48 PM
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I just received a notice that my business Amex credit limit was cut in half. I pay off my balances every month and have never had a late payment.
I called them and was told that the reason why it was done was because I wasn't using my limit. I explained that the reason for a higher limit was to give me options in case an opportunity came along.
It doesn't cost Amex any money to keep credit limits high and I don't understand the rationale. Maybe an economist can explain this
Carol
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by iFont4U Posted Tue October 20, 2009 @ 7:11 PM
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And my Story Goes: http://amexunamerican.blogspot.com/
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A similar thing happened to me, where I saw my AMEX credit line suddenly and unexpectedly reduced from $74,000 to $32,000. I had been using my AMEX Delta Skymiles card for both personal and business expenses, usually revolving large balances (which I thought credit card companies considered a good thing -- until the recession) but always meeting my payment deadlines consistently for more than two decades.
American Express is not the only lender to reduce my credit. But somehow, a carefully worded letter from Chase explaining that the reduction was all about the company's efforts to deal with an uncertain economy and in no way a reflection of the responsible way I pay my bills on time took much of the sting out of their actions. Whereas American Express sent me a cold-looking form letter that mentioned their decision could be based on my credit report, payment history, or other factors -- but that they were not at liberty to discuss which factors were involved in my reduction in credit.
I realize AMEX's decision was nothing personal, but that's unfortunate. All good business decisions should be personal. I have switched all financial transactions to my Visa check card and have ceased using my American Express card. While it worked nicely during the Reagan and Clinton economies, I find it unpredictable and unfriendly during the current economic crisis -- a fair weather friend indeed!
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by m0bl Posted Sat August 1, 2009 @ 11:35 PM
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So, Amex just lowered my credit line to $1000.
I've been an Amex cardholder for 19 years. Never missed a payment - not on Amex, or anything else for that matter.
Admittedly, I am flipping balances on a couple other cards temporarily, however again, no missed payments - ever.
I had been using Discover because of the great cash back option. I then found that the Costco True Earning Business card had even better cash back percentages, so I opened up a new account. I already had a Blue card with some very high credit line.. maybe $14k - $20k... don't remember now.
So, I get my True Earnings card, and it came with $2900 credit line. I was disappointed because it had 0% for purchases for the first 3 months, and I should have been able to average about $4500 based on my monthly spend during that time...which at 0% would have been nice. Instead, it capped after just over the first month...I asked if I could increase it, and the rep said I could only request an increase after like 60 or 90 days... AFTER the 0% intro period was pretty much up... Nice.
Anyways, I went with it because it was enough of a line for me to put all my charges through without any issues.
In the meantime, I figured if I were to close my Blue card it would decrease my other credit line so that I could increase my Costco True Earnings Business card credit line... I didn't necessarily want to close the Blue card, but I was kind of irritated at the credit limit issue... I had previously asked if I could shift the credit from one product to the other, and I was told that wasn't possible. So, account closed.
At the end of the intro period for the Costco card, I had to pay off my balance in full to avoid any finance charges - so I could continue to use the card for all my purchases.... so I did...paid it off. Just last month.
Much like the other posts here, it seems that once the balance was paid off, boom... credit line decreased. TO JUST $1000.00!!!
Seriousy, WTF were they thinking????
I pay my balance off in full every month.. I was putting every single dollar of spend through the card. My average monthly spend is between $2000-$3000 with at least 2-3 big purchases each year.
I got an email on my phone tonight... ironically just after using my Amex card to fill up my gas tank...It said important account update, so I checked it right away.
After seeing the credit line decrease, I immediately called to see if it could be corrected. I called to explain that I need approximately $3k to use the card... even if I weren't pissed, I'd still need that much to use the card without having to worry at the end of the month if I'm close to my credit limit.
I'm not gonna use a card where I have to wonder "will I at some point accidentally exceed my limit this month?" I don't have to ... I have pleeeenty of available credit on other providers.
The rep said she couldn't help me...said she had to transfer me to someone else... That pissed me off.
So... Gold Card - gone....closed the card I've had since 1990...the card with no limit, that I've paid $150/year for for ages. $100 pro-rated refund coming back... booyaa.
I had kept the Gold card for large purchases.. purchase protection.. yadda yadda.. so it wouldn't interfere with my credit limit on my other Amex card. No longer needed. ACCOUNT CLOSED.
Back to the Costco Amex card. I was xferred to someone regarding the credit line reduction. It seems there's a group of people that get these calls... that hear people complain, yet are trained to simply respond like robots..reading a canned script stating some bogus generic message around why the credit line was decreased. Nothing specific to *MY* accounts.. Just the rep reading a canned list of potential factors that impact the decision to adjust credit line.
I interrupted the rep... I told the rep I know all the potential factors that can effect the decition. I don't give a cr*p. What I said was look at the factors that a.) I've never, ever missed any payments, b.) I've been a customer for 18 years, c.) I put ALL my charges through Amex, d.) I pay them off every month e.) I shop at COSTCO - with my Amex..and will have to switch to Sam's Club because I won't keep an account that doesn't meet my minimum needs.
So the rep.. not saying anything related to what I said, just picked up from that canned note, not missing a beat. I stopped her again, and asked her point blank, "Can you or anyone else, your manager, fix the credit line issue and put it back to $2900" (which isn't huge by any stretch - but would have kept me as a customer). She said there's an appeal process. I'll be damned if I'm appealing anything... Not spending any more time on this... I'm not calling back tomorrow.. I'm not gonna even sit on the phone more than a few more minutes.
The answer was a flat "No".
So... no problem... Close the account.
She goes off and says she is unable to close the account... that I have to call some other number. She can't transfer me. I'm driving and have to take down a number and call back... just pissing me off even more.
So, I call the other number. I explain the situation. I explain that the card is worthless to me if I can't put my monthly spent thru it. I explain that I CAN use my Discover card to put my monthly spent through, and that the benefit difference is marginal... In fact, in some ways it's better than Amex because you receive the rebate amount immediately, whereas with Amex you have to wait until the end of the fiscal year to receive the cash back - decreasing the NPV of the money coming back to me.
So, I give Amex one more chance... I ask again if the credit limit issue can be resolved to keep the card useful.
Flat answer - No.
My response: Fine... close my last Amex account. Customer Lost... For Good. 18 years, and a few HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS of spend over the lifetime of my accounts - gone... never to return.
I was informed that I had $110 in cash back that I would be forfeiting ... Gee - I wonder why I had that cash back coming... Maybe because I USE MY CARD WISELY AND PAY MY BALANCE OFF IN FULL EACH MONTH.
Do I care about the $110? Yes. Do I want to keep my Amex card around for 6 months just to get that cash back? No... Keep it Amex... it's a gift from me to you. I'll call it a wash with the $100 refund from my Gold card annual fees being returned to me...
Next step? Pay off account in full... switch over automated payments... email Costco that I'll no longer be a customer... close my business Costco account, get refund for pro-rated membership fees...Tell them I'm switching to Sam's club because I can no longer pay for purchases at Costco (they only accept Amex cards, and I don't pay with cash or check)... Sam's Club accepts Discover...so I'm good to go. I don't think Costco will appreciate losing customers, but not my problem.
I had just though of the irony of something... with the way things are calculated.
I opened the Costco True Earnings card because of the cash back benefits, but didn't receive enough of a credit line when opening the new account.
I closed my Blue card, which was a large credit line, because I was unable to shift any open available credit from one account to another. I had a large credit line on my Blue card, and a small one on my Costco card, so closed the Blue card and waited to ask for a credit increase.
Instead, what I *presume* happened is that closing the Blue card increased my debt to available credit ratio... it also decreased the average life of my accounts as it was one of my older accounts. This would have impacted my credit score, which is still very good by the way.
I then proceeded to pay off my balance on my Costco card in full.
And that's when the shoe dropped... the impact of closing my Blue card account, which was the only potential way for me to move the available credit over... actually had the opposite of the desired effect - and Amex's new policies reduced my credit line to $1000... making the account utterly worthless for me as a full-monthly-spend card.
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Oh, it gets better... I just realized something else that could have prevented this.
I had previously been using Discover to pump all my spending through because of their cash back.
Before I had a Costco True Earnings Business Card, I had a Costco Cash Rebate Amex card..
I wanted to switch the card type from the Cash Rebate card to a True Earnings business card, but apparently the systems didn't support that switch.. Was told I had to apply for a new account and close the old one.
Had they been able to switch the card type, none of this would have happened.
But, they weren't able to switch the card type, so I closed the old account, and opened a new one.... thereby impacting the average life of my open accounts, negatively impacting my credit score as a first step.
So, I went from Discover... to my new Amex card... closing one account.. then another... trying to make the new Amex card fill my needs... and then this happens... making the Amex card utterly worthless, after I closed two other accounts... I finally closed a third... and then a fourth... and now I only have one left because I have to - a corporate card that I don't have a choice about.
The end.
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If only I had known about this sooner. I am supposed to photograph a close friend's wedding in Boston on August 1st. I decided to pay down my American Express so I could buy the airfare and use some of the credit for my week-long trip. The sad result of this policy Amex is implementing: I bought the airplane ticket, the credit line was reduced, and now I have no way of paying for my hotel accomodation or meals while there. The backlash: I called JetBlue to discuss a refund on a non-refundable ticket. The rest is history. Now I have a $1236 JetBlue credit for the tickets that were going to get my family to our delightful annual vacation in Boston, and no trip to Boston. Obviously, I had to call my friend and let her know what was going on. This is more than disappointing. I have been an Amex card holder since the 1990s and for my credit line to be lowered thousands of dollars without warning or notice of any kind was a huge slap in the face. Needless to say, anytime I'm standing at a register with a moment to spare (the people in line must thing I'm crazy), I turn around and ask the person behind me if they use an Amex card so I can tell them what happenend to me. Then I refer them to the Internet to read up and make sure they are choosing their creditors wisely. Surely this is going to end up in a class-action suit. What if I had a dying family member I needed to get to or, worse yet, those funds were something I really needed for my children's purposes? Nevermind our credit scores; I can think of a number of scenarios where having a long-time-available credit limit adjusted by several thousand dollars could have life-altering consequences. I'm sorry for whoever that happens to...
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by Kenogal Posted Tue June 9, 2009 @ 9:59 AM
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Okay, I'm feeling a little better after reading all these posts.
A couple of years ago, I paid my AMEX card down $2500 for a cruise to Mexico. Imagine my embarassment when the purser's desk called to let me know that I didn't have any credit line on my account. I had to call AMEX from the ship and was told that my credit line had been dropped because of one of their "occasional reviews" of my credit-worthiness. But, I kept on trusting them anyhow.....
A couple of weeks ago, I paid off ALL of my credit cards, including $14,000 to AMEX. Surprise! Yesterday, I received a letter from them letting me know that they had completely closed down my account and that "this action may have a negative bearing on your credit score". What???? I, too, have a credit score well over 700 which will probably go much higher now that I have paid off all of my cards. Of course, I dream of the day that AMEX comes groveling to get me to open an account and I simply say "you've got to be kidding".
There are better rewards cards out there and also companies that treat their customers with the respect they've earned. Thanks for letting me vent.
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by SAMY Posted Wed June 3, 2009 @ 2:00 PM
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To all American Express Card Holders , if you think you have established good relationship with American Express ............you are totally WRONG.
If you dont believe me. Give yourself sometime and you will find out yourself ....
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by Mark B. Posted Tue May 26, 2009 @ 8:34 AM
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I've been an AMEX for 27 years. A "valued" customer. Bullshit. Lsst evening,on MEMORIAL DAY!, they called to give me the "courtesy call" that my limit has been reduced from a NO SET LIMIT to $3700.00!! This was after 2 months ago arbitrailarly and without notice reduced by 2 business accounts from $5000 each to $500 each!! What a business card that will be!!! I have done more for Amercian Express in the last 27 years than they have ever done and could ever do for me. I promoted the benefit of the card to friends, family who carried visa/mastercard and to merchants who were refusing the card. I have universally promoted the company. I have charged over $1,000,000 on my cards of the years. In 27 years I have been late 30 days only a couple of times and none in the past five years. NO MORE!! Chenualt should be fired immediately from this compnay. He has NO IDEA that the tenured AMEX cardholder communtiy is the very foundation of his company and that foundation is crumbling rapidly. I too after 27 years will be cancelling all cards with AMEX effective immediately. To hell with them. No more. Their 27 years of good will has been trashed in a single phone call.
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I was with Amex for 10 years, and three months ago, they canceled my card without even notifying me. I literally used it an hour before I tried to use it again, and was denied! I told the customer service rep that I hope the company goes under and she loses her job. It wasn't fair to her, but imagine my frustration when I'm denied a $4 transaction after I had just used it for a $50 meal an hour before. I will never, ever go back to Amex.
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by Loida H. Posted Wed May 13, 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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I understand saying "Glad I'm not the only one" doesn't make things better, but at least you didn't get a phone call from AmEx saying "Do you realize your credit limit was reduced?" the MORNING of the decrease! We use our AmEx for our business as well, pay off the balance every month. My husband made a $3900.00 purchase at Costco and 2 (TWO!!) hours later, we got the phone call saying our limit was $4100.00 (down from $12k). I asked the rep how on Earth I could've known if their phone call was my first notice. I'm just so frustrated with this whole experience!!!
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by Gerard G. Posted Tue May 12, 2009 @ 9:41 PM
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I am writing to share my experince from this evening with American Express. I have a 714 score with Experian. A/X left an automated message indicating that my credit rating was reduced from $18K to $4,400. I owe $3,500 on the card, I have a perfect payment history with A/X and that reduction will now put me in an unfavorable position with the credit bureaus as I will be over 50% of my limit. I called and they told me that they reduced my limit because Experian showed me as a high risk. I informed them that this indiscriminate move will give cause to lower my credit rating. The supervisor told me that she knew that but they can not change the 'review boards' decision. My credit report is very clean and the 714 score is not shabby. AX really is as despicable as the rest of the banks out there sucking off of the government motherhood. They took Government money and now they are throwing all of us who have been faithfull cardholders for years in the crapper.
I have cancelled my card, I will pay of the balance by the end of this month and I will cancel all other AX company cards within the organization where I work.
I hope others will read this and do the same.
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by Andrew R Posted Thu April 16, 2009 @ 7:55 PM
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Same story, but the timing in my case was really bad ... I had paid down my card by $25K in prep for a bunch of travel and a week in Europe, and as I was sitting at the airport 45 min before leaving to London a charge bounced. AmEx had cut my limit from $50K to $28K, changing my available credit from $23K to $563. I was essentially stranded in Europe with no credit card, the Friday before Easter weekend. I can imagine people who were traveling with their families and couldn't pay for a hotel, car, or whatever, all due to AmEx's arbitrary decision-making.
AmEx is reprehensible ... if they want to lower credit limits for people with decent FICO scores and perfect payment histories, I guess that is their perogative, but they could give you some notice and not just treat their best customers with such contempt.
I closed the card and plan to pay it off next week when I am back in town. I also plan to spend as much effort as I can spreading the word about their despicable business practices and the huge gap between what they claim to be ... some kind of high value / high service card for valued clients ... and what they actually are, a business run by computer models that treats their customers with total contempt and disrespect and doesn't care *one iota* how much aggravation and damage their policies cause to their "valued" customers.
The fact that I paid off $25K last week and can pay off the other $28K in a week once they pissed me off should speak for itself in terms of whether this was a valid decision in terms of my being a "risky" customer.
Idiots.
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by Jason in Plantation Posted Thu April 16, 2009 @ 3:42 PM
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Glad I'm not alone. I'm in a bit of a different boat though. Have a business platinum card with a 37k limit. I was running a balance between 9 and 11k a month, with about 2-3k per month in charges AND payments....
Decided to make an equipment purchase of 6k and within 24 hours I had a phone call that my limit was reduced to what equates to my new balance after the 6k purchase. That's right 17k credit limit, down from 37k !!
They were totally uncaring on my phone call and offered up that they would NOT consider increasing it back. And yes, they fed me the same story about updated information from the credit bureaus was used in their decision. RIGHT. My FICO hasn't change, it's rock solid at 730-740 and has been for years. No other change in accounts or balances either!
Goodbye American Express after 15 years! I believed them to be a business partner, and used the card as a tool like many others. I simply cannot do business with them anymore!
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by ShawnN Posted Wed April 15, 2009 @ 12:35 AM
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Totally Unfair and unethical business practice. Been a customer with AMEX for 13 years and paying the total amount due on time every time and this is HOW THEY TREAT ME!!! Cut my credit line to half.
AMEX will have to pay for this kind of thing. I will make sure that going forward and once I have paid off the card - i will cancel the account and NEVER use your card anymore. I will also make sure that this kind of treatment will be known to all my relatives, friends, customers.
Sorry to say but I had a high opinion about AMEX till now. They will regret such decisions.
Sincerly
Shawn
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by a e. Posted Mon April 13, 2009 @ 11:15 PM
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American Express treats it's good standing customers like criminals. After a relationship with them for almost 10 years (and I'm not even 30) they decide to cut my credit limit in half.
They say they have a evaluated my credit history and have decided to cut my available balance from 12,500 to 5,000. Obviously I wasn't close to the limit, and I pay at least double of what the required minimum payment should be. The customer service rep kept telling me after evaluating your credit history we made a business decision to lower your limit.
I have almost an 800 credit score and you don't keep that by not knowing how to handle your finances. The obviously don't value customer service or do they care about the relationship you have built and established with them.
They lowered my credit limit, yet they continue to call and offer me a credit monitoring so they can get paid, and offers to open more cards. The rep said that they didn't know my history before they sent the offers - so I said "you don't check the history of people who have no cards with you, but you do check the credit for people have long lasting relationships of no negative account history" - surprise, she didn't have a response for that - seem backwards to me!
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by J C. Posted Fri March 27, 2009 @ 7:52 PM
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AMERICAN EXPRESS IS IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE according to my conversation with EXPERIAN earlier today. I had to hunt down a real phone number for Experian and finally talk to a real person. Here is the number that will help you reach a live voice.
Experian
475 Anton Blvd.
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
1 714 830 7000
This started off with AMEX lowering my credit line by $10,700.00. After asking American Express why this happened, they referred me to contact Experian, and that they receive a monthly report that showed I was at a high balance to credit line ratio. AMEX gave me a bunk phone number to Experian which was just an automated line.
Once I finally hunted down a real person, I found out that they are having a lot of calls from AMEX customers in the same boat with perfect credit and payment history. She informed me that American Express is in financial turmoil.
I will no longer be doing business with American Express. If I had been planning to make a large purchase at Costco, who accepts American Express ONLY, and was denied at the counter, I would be irate. I'm not impressed with their way of doing business.
WWW.CannonSarge.COM
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by Domina Posted Fri March 13, 2009 @ 12:28 PM
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I am right there with the rest of you. Last Saturday I received an automated phone call from American Express stating that my limit had been lowered. I steamed about this for an hour and then I called only to be told by not only the robot sitting in the cubicle but also by their supervisor that my limit was lowered to do the my making payments that were too close to my minimum monthly required payment and that three months ago I was delinquent with another credit card. First of all I have never been late with any other creditor and each month I have paid anywhere from three to four times the required minimum to them - they are out right lying to their customers. I told the supervisor that by them lowering my limit it would have a negative impact on my credit score and all the stupid woman could say was "I know." God, she was so flip about it and I started to imagine being able to lower her score. Currently my FICO is (was) 744 (average of all 3). American Express obviously no longer rewards its dedicated customers. I will be closing this card as soon as possible.
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by Robert B. Posted Thu February 5, 2009 @ 3:09 AM
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They did this three time to me in that past four months. I too, just made a sizeable lump sum payment because when they reduced my credit line on two cards, they effectively cause my FICO score to go down because of the updated ratio of debt to credit limit. I just received another email that they cut the limit again on one card that was cut four months ago. My FICO score was 738 (average across the Big Three).
I have NEVER been late (that's right , never) on any payments to any of my accounts, my score across all the Big Three is average of 725 (which is going to go down again now), and I have ALWAYS paid way more than required minimum, an all my accounts.
Guess what, AMEX? I am closing my accounts tomorrow and am going to make sure everyone I know that has an AMEX account aware of how you treat loyal cardholders. Its funny how I googled "Notice of Credit Limit Reduction," which was the heading of my email and this website came up #1.
If I weren't a god-fearing man, my words would be much harsher. I truly believe that your actions are discriminatory, constitute unfair business trade practices, and are character assassinations on those of us that take great care to be timely.
Derogatorily,
Robert B.
Palmdale, CA
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by MJV Posted Fri January 30, 2009 @ 2:08 PM
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I'm so glad I googled this!!! My husband and I are actively paying off a balance of $21k; this is our only credit card balance. After making a payment of $9,200 last week, they lowered our credit line to 13,000. My husband was so angry that in this economy, they punish people actually making payments! We had planned to pay off all but $5k by the end of this month.
Amex gave us the line that we have deragotory credit, etc....I immediately pulled our score and it's just below 700 despite the fact that we purchased a house recently.
I secured a fixed rate interest loan through our bank for the remaining $5k and we got a Mastercard with a reasonable limit for hubby to use on business expenses. Amex will go in the drawer and never be used again.
They sure loved the $400 a month in interest we were paying to them every month...on time and over the minimum payments. Guess they know how to encourage people NOT to use their cards!
Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories. It's comforting to know that it wasn't just us.
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by MJV Tue February 10, 2009 @ 7:00 PM
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by KIA J. Posted Wed January 28, 2009 @ 8:39 AM
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This is absolutely amazing to me!!!!! I swore that I was the only the customer who was suffering from their unfair practices. I paid AMEX $7,800.00 three months ago, thinking that I was bringing down my balance. Two days later I went online to purchase airline tickets and my card was declined. I immediately called AMEX and they gave me the same story stating that Experian reported derogatory latesnesses on my credit report. I told them that this was impossible.... Coincidentally, I had recently pulled my credit report just a few days ago and it was in "good standing." Moreover, I asked for their fax number to prove to them this was an error. I allowed them time to review the credit report, and about a week I called back only to hear a different excuse.
My credit limit has been reduced to $32,000.00 and I fear the more I make large payments, the less available credit I will have. Quite the conundrum?????
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by Mickey LI Posted Fri January 23, 2009 @ 2:20 PM
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Amex is doing this to everyone. I am so happy today. I cancelled all my Amex cards. Went to JP Morgan/Chase and they gave me an "immediate" Visa and M/C with $15,000 limit on each to start off with. They said they are picking up a lot of business from Amex customers that Amex screwed. My credit score is 710 so no problems with Chase.
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by Heather L. Posted Fri January 16, 2009 @ 4:05 PM
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Here's a copy of the email I just sent to the CEP of American Express, I think it says it all:
Mr. Chenault,
I understand that these tough financial times require the tightening of credit lending, however, I'd like to tell you my story.
I have depended on American Express for much over the years, I have 3 different cards. I was shocked when I received the first notice that my credit limit was reduced but took it in stride. For the past 6 months, I have carried a $48,000 balance on my primary credit card - the limit. Each month, I pay a portion down and then put the next month of my business expenses on it and would go right back to the limit. Your company enjoyed the $782 in interest each and every month. With my business improving, I was able this past month to pay the balance down to 0. Imagine my surprise when I got another notification that my credit limit has been reduced to $1000!!!!!!!!!!! $1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can you do this to your customers? American Express says it is the friend of the small business owner. With friends like this.........
Did I mention when I called your customer service department to inquire how this could happen they told me the decision was based on INCORRECT information from Experian about my credit? Did I mention my credit score is 760!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am the Publisher of 2 Luxury Real Estate Magazines in Major Metro areas. Our readers are your customers.
To add insult to injury, not only am I a cardholder but my publishing company takes American Express as a form of payment from our customers! That will be ending, as soon as I finishing editing the piece I intend to run month in and month out about how American Express is the most corrupt disgusting company I have ever done business with, and all merchants who process using American Express and all current cardholders should BEWARE before doing business with you. I will also run ads for your competitors for free in order to entice people to open accounts with them and close them with you.
I feel this is my only recourse after being told there was nothing anyone at your company could do to help restore my credit limit.
I thank god that my other credit sources have kept intact and I will continue to be able to run my businesses, because if I were just depending on American Express, I would be out of business as of tonight.
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by Steven H. Posted Mon January 12, 2009 @ 9:40 PM
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I recieved a recorded call from AE on Jan 11 to inform me that I needed to contact them immediately! I called, only to find out that they had lowered the credit limit on my AE Platinum card (which I pay a tidy some to have the "privilege" of keeping in my wallet) significantly. My response to he lady on the other end was, "well they raise it for no reason, and I guess now they can lower it for no reason" and the reponse was that "oh no sir, there are reasons, one of which is that there are derogatory comments on your credit report". Needless to say I was in a bit of a panic after hearing this and I immediately got on line to see if my identity had been stolen or something. After visiting the three credit bureaus and pulling my credit report, I found that there is absolutely nothing wrong with my credit and that my FICO score is still in the low 800's. Oddly enough, after signing into the AE website, it turns out that my credit limit was lowered to just about $200 over what my balance is. I generally do not carry a balance on my personal AE but have had a small one for the past 3 or 4 months which I have been paying down quickly.
I recieved another recorded call today, Jan 12, from AE to inform me that my AE Costco Business card had also recieved a cut in the credit limit. Amazingly the credit on this card too was cut to approximately $200 above the small balance. I use this card for business and generally do not carry a balance on it.
I guess I dont mind if for business reasons AE has decided to reduce the amount of credit they are offering. What bothers me is to do it in this way and to then cite reasons which are not true is just plain wrong. I was somewhat comforted to google this website and find out that I am not alone.
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by Juliesesq. Posted Wed January 7, 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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I, too, was the newest victim of Amex. I have been a member since 1997. While my credit is in the upper 600's, I have an office card, a home card and a blue with Amex and always valued Amex as a tool for both business and home use. Except when my sister passed away this summer, I always pay my credit with them and while I carry a balance (with significant interest) it gets paid back regularly. 2 months ago, Amex cut my gold card line. Last month they cut my blue line and again this month cut my blue line. Meanwhile, companies like Discover and Citi are offering me additional credit. I find Amexs' actions to be reprehensible. They do not reflect banking foresight but rather an increase in fear regarding the markets, which than affects people who use Amex for multiple purposes. Moreover, while they are lowering credit availability, they are also summarily ruining credit, the same credit upon which they claim to rely when making these decisions. It is simply like playing a game of lining up the dominoes. I will not continue to use my amex card and am looking for alternative means of credit. I also plan to write to Costco.
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I know it's a broken record because all of us have apparently been a victim of AMEX and their games! I thought I was all alone when I received an email telling me my credit line had gone from $8500.00 to $2600.00 based on a "review" of my profile. I have excellent credit (750+) NEVER been late or even close to my limit, always paid either entire balance or 2-3 times the minimum several days in advance. This is how AMEX pays us back. I swear I WILL NEVER give this miserable credit card company A PENNY of my money in interest EVER!
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by michael t. Posted Sat December 6, 2008 @ 1:35 AM
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Same here. I called to request a pin to access cash while out of town and the next day my credit limit went from 15000 to 500. they said it was due to a review of my credit and that certain conditions in my profile had changed. NOTHING CHANGED. my fico score is 730-how could I be a risk. They are running my score down by lowering my credit limits-debt/credit ratio. now it looks as if my cards are maxed out. Amex will never get my business again!
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by Sandra W. Posted Mon December 1, 2008 @ 6:20 PM
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I have an AE card because of Costco. We always pay more than the minimum. On Black Friday my card was denied. I was humiliated! I called them and they told me it was because of my "profile" and to check with Experian. My line of credit went from $25,000 to $8,400. I think it's because they are trying to become a bank to cash in on the bailout. What a crock!
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by JP92104 Posted Wed November 26, 2008 @ 3:14 PM
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Ditto to all of the past letters. I am as of today the newest casualty of AMEX. They gave me the Experion song and dance 1 DAY AFTER I paid $34,000.00 on my card, they dropped my line to $1600.00!!!!!!
It was my life line for my business in this economy. I have never been late on a payment... I paid 2 somtimes 3 times more than the minimum payment and in some cases I would pay the entire balance as I did yesterday.
AMEX is not to be trusted!!!They told me that they did not take customer relationships into consideration...that it was all on Expirian, but Experian has no problems with me....!!!????
AS of today I will no longer accept AMEX at my business (for as long as it lasts at this point) and I will let my customers know why as well.
You may want to write a letter to COSTCO regaurding this as well (if you are a member with a card thru them) and express your dis-satisfaction with what's going on as they probably pay huge amounts to AMEX for card services and let them know it will impact their business as well, as now customers spending has been decided by AMEX.
I hope AMEX TANKS and opens the door for a newer better establishment that cares about their customers to be born.
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by neitowl Posted Sat November 22, 2008 @ 11:00 AM
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I'm glad I googled my Amex problem and found this site!!!! I went into my email this morning and found an email from Amex telling me that "after a thorough review of my credit profile they have lowered my credit limit. They lowered my credit limit from $10,800 all the way down to $1,200!!!!! As for the cash advance they lowered that from $2,200 down to $200!!!
I have EXCELLENT credit, I never carry high balances AND I check my credit report every year. This year I checked it with ALL 3 credit reporting agencies and my credit as I thought is perfect. So whatever BS they're selling is exactly that.......BS !!!! I will not use this card anymore either, but I think there should be something more we all can do. This makes us look bad that our credit limits have been dropped this much!!!
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by weatherdog Posted Thu November 20, 2008 @ 3:06 AM
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Same here - member since 1981. AMX Blue credit line cut in half with email letter. Costco AMX drastically reduced - no letter, just noticed this online. Looks like AMX is expecting the dust bowl and great depression again. The first time that ANY credit card company has cut my credit. If it were not for Costco I would cancel all AMX, and I won't forget this, nor will the countless others you have done this to, AMX.
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by trainaholic Posted Wed November 19, 2008 @ 1:06 PM
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I just got an email from AMEX saying that they are lowering my limit by almost half!!
I have very good credit, 770, never late on my bills with any card or any thing else.
I called and the lady said that the lowering is due to my report on Experian, I just pulled it up to check it out and its better than it used to be.
WTH!
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by Terry N. Posted Wed November 19, 2008 @ 12:10 PM
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I just went on line to pay my bill and see that my credit line dropped $6000. I immediately called AMEX and they told me the experian line. So I panic, thinking identity theft, go on to experian to buy my credit report. No delinquenices, no late payments, credit score of 730. This is all BS. I am devising a plan to pay this thing off in the next 3-4 months and then dumping it. I also have a gold card which I've never used, which I am closing out now. This financial crisis has definitely hit home. It is getting scary.
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by Viki Posted Thu November 13, 2008 @ 2:42 PM
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DITTO, DITTO, DITTO, DITTO ... I have been an AMEX gold card holder for 24+ years and have used it as a business tool as well as for personal use. I have always paid my balances off in full each month (as they require) and I have a perfect credit score with absolutely no late payments for any credit accounts I have ever had. I received a second limit reduction notice yesterday, called AMEX, was on hold for 30 minutes and was given the same bs as everyone else who has written on this post. Unbelievable. As a side note, before closing your account be sure to redeem your reward points because once you close your account the points are gone. I'm at a crossroads now -- do I close my gold account or just let it sit??? Will it matter, especially if they continue to reduce my limit? I want to make a decision that would be best for my credit score. Initially, I thought I'd keep it open and not use it. However, they'll probably just continue to reduce it so which is worse? Finally, isn't there a class action lawsuit brewing somewhere??? Good luck to all!
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by Randy B. Posted Mon November 10, 2008 @ 9:56 PM
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I just recently received an email from AMEX. It advises me that after review of my history they are reducing my credit limit. Seems they have decided to take me from the high side down to six grand (6000.00) I did exactly what all should do. I advised Amex that I will await their writter letter with explanation which they tell me is forthcoming. At said time this letter arrives I will the do my own review. Should I find that Amex is using card holders as cover for their own internal failure I will the return the card ,balance in full and will never again utilize their services. As I am sure many are aware, AMEX is at this time facing a very high amount of card holder defaults. This in turn has caused most if not all financial experts to call for a dump of AMEX stock,citing them as a sinking ship. Sadly it now appears that AMEX in an effort to save face has decided to use their card holders as scape goats so to speak. I suggest that all consider Discover Card for their needs. I have found no issues there and I have been with them as long as AMEX. By the way to all I say ,don't feel bad. I am a self employed Federal Gov. Contractor, 5 star top of the line D&B rating, and far more than enough in liquid to cover more than Amex has ever extended to me .
Hopefully we'll have a class action coming on against AMEX , one we can all take part in.
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by stacey r. Posted Sat November 8, 2008 @ 1:35 AM
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I am so happy and relieved to find this site. I have absolutely perfect credit in this economy and went to use my card for a vacation only to be denied. I called amex and they made it seem like someone stole my credit which was the reason they dropped my 45000 credit line to 500. She stated I had serious deliquencies on my account (I have never been late!).
I received my Experian credit report today and it is still perfect. Nothing on there at all. I of course call AMEX back and I have to talk to a dept that isn't open. Dealing with this for a week thinking someone got ahold of my credit.
to be continued...
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by cfargo Posted Fri October 31, 2008 @ 10:00 AM
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I was upset with American Express because they had lowered my limit by 75% over the past 3 months and had flat out lied to me trying to justify their actions. As a small business I have used American Express as my working capital over the past 10 years, so their reduction in my working capital was a real slap in the face and hurt. At first I took it real personal and thought they were picking on me but have since learned that they are doing this to most of their customers. In September alone they lowered the credit limits of 20% of their card holders and day by day they are doing it to more and more. If you have some extra time and want to stunned, Google "American Express credit limit" and you too will be able to read horror story after horror story.
Just last night my sister went to use her AMX card at CostCo and it was denied. She got home and called American Express (1/2 hour on hold) to find out that her cards limit was dropped to $600 (just above her balance) from $16,200. This girl has impeccable credit and they did this to her. The customer service rep told her that it was lowered because of a "Public Record" input on her credit report. She immediately pulled her credit reports and found no such entry on any of the credit reports. Funny thing is that an American Express customer service rep tried that line on me too yesterday morning and I too immediately pulled my credit reports. Not finding this "Public Record" entry on any of my credit reports, I called American Express back and ask them what they were talking about and of course the representative tells me he has no idea why the last representative told me this as he sees nothing in my file like that.
So be prepared to have your credit limited dropped drastically for no reason or to have it chase down your balance with no warning. When you do call them to find out why, be prepared for a long hold time and have your credit reports in hand so that you can call them on their mistruths. It is a very sad day when the employees of an icon like American Express have to tell you flat out mistruths to try to justify their higher-ups actions. But they are only trying to get you off the phone so that they can answer the next call in the very long queue of callers wanting to know why their limits were reduced too.
Sorry for the very long rant but maybe this will save you some embarrassment while trying to use your card. It is no wonder that American Express announced yesterday that they will be laying off 7,000 employees (10% of their workforce) as they don't want us using our cards.
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by Ellyn G. Posted Fri October 17, 2008 @ 10:36 PM
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I am so glad I found this site!!!!! I have incredible credit, over $1 million worth of real estate, a high-paying secure government job, and years of good history with American Express. Regardless, those bastards did the same thing to me.
Since American Express doesn't care to respond to my inquiries, I've taken it to Costco corporate offices and sent them notice that I'm about the cancel my membership since my COSTCO American Express has become virtually useless in their warehouse. Amex doesn't care about us little people, but I thing they might think twice if Costco speaks up. I urge everybody to rally the corporations who American Express relies on for huge fees!!!
I'm going to cancel my card and send a formal complaint to the Department of Commerce, too.
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by geoman Posted Sun October 5, 2008 @ 1:26 AM
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Ditto. I had 27% used on my card, then they reduced my limit to $150 over my balance. Thus making the usage on the card at 97% and effectivly hurting my credit score.
Funny thing, one of the reasons they provided was that the "proportions of balances to credit limits" was too high, while they actually create that situation.
Here is the biggest problem. On the letter listing the reasons why the decrease they state "Our credit experience with customers who have made purchases at establishments where you have recently used your card."
Basically, I used my Amex card at some establishment where someone else had used their Amex card and didn't pay their bill! Therefore, its ok to shop at Cosco, but don't use your Amex card at K-Mart because more "deadbeats" shop there? I should have been notified of this fact by the retailer or Amex. I received negative action because I shopped there!
Since when do other shoppers have anything to do with my credit report and ability to pay. Second, are the retailers who accept American Express aware that their customers are being punished for using their Amex card when shopping there. That surely creates unfair competition and discrimination. I've asked Amex for a complete copy of their so called "high-risk" merchants so that I may avoid shopping there again. I suggest that everyone who received the same letter to request a copy as well.
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by CHERYL F. Wed December 3, 2008 @ 1:30 PM
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by Mark S. Posted Mon September 22, 2008 @ 6:56 PM
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They have done the same thing to me twice now. Its crazy unfair, and probably illegal.
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by Vicki P. Posted Wed September 10, 2008 @ 7:25 AM
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We had a similar thing happen. I was told earlier in the year that they use your past 6 months spending history to determine your how much you can spend. They will never admit to putting a "limit" on your account, however they will tell you that when they receive a payment they will reactivate your card, which they didn't do when I made our last payment. I also explained to them that we are a seasonal business (house painting) so the past six months spending for us from June back is not realistic. I also point out that they control your spend history by cutting off your card when they want to, thus skewing the amount you spend and making your spending history lower. We have decided to stop using Amex going forward and use cards with spending limits so that we are prepared for hitting limits rather than going into a store to make a purchase and having it delcined without notice.
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by gharo72 Posted Sat August 9, 2008 @ 1:42 PM
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I had the same experience have 4 cards my average spending was about 25000k most of it on auto bill pay and traveling expences pay my dues in full every month ,all of sudden my spending limit is 2500$ most of my bill pay bounced and i had to rearrange all of them to my bank account , lost my millage I ve been getting ,that was upsetting I closed all accounts except one (just for costco use) and they lost me as a good client
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by Michelle C. Posted Fri July 25, 2008 @ 11:01 AM
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Amex just did the same thing to me. I've had the account for 5 years, good history, not close to the limit and boom. Reduced my limit to 2K from 5K. I had a 1800 balance so that made my usage go up big time and my score drop. I plan to pay them off and send them their card back cut up. I dont need a financial institution like that.
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by ORFIsherman Posted Wed July 9, 2008 @ 1:12 PM
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I am a 12 year customer of the gold card. I have a perfect payment history and have ever had a problem.... until this year. AMEX has started a new policy of averaging your usage for the last 3 months and evaluating your credit score on a monthly basis (a score by the way you cannot obtain without a fee). By doing this, they limit their exposure to risk in the declining economy (in their opinion), however they also alienate perfectly good customers that have been only sporadically using the card and may have recently incurred more debt (like anew car or new house). This is a ridiculous policy and the idiot that came up with it should be fired. Not to mention, I hope someone in the Govt realizes the unfair practice of using a score to decline credit, a score which the consumer has to pay to see. I have seen my "no limits" spending feature dropped from "unlimited" to $21K, to $8K. This is because when they pissed me off the first time by changing from "no-limit" to a $21K limit, I stopped using the card for business travel. Then, as I did use it sporadically, they lowered the limit again because my "average" usage was low. How stupid is that? My recommendation, pass the word along and have everyone you speak to complain. Call them and complain, write them and complain, email them and complain...and...stop using the card! If their usage drops and their complaints rise....someone in AMEX Corporate will get wind of it and hopefully fire the idiot that stated the new policy.
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by MARC M. Posted Sun June 22, 2008 @ 10:19 PM
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Hello everyone!
Here's what to do. I have had a perfect history with AMEX, 13 cards, impeccably handled. Out of no here, for no reason, all credit limits have been reduced and putting me at 95% ratio (previously 20%)
STOP PAYMENTS ON YOUR AMEX CARDS. I know what your thinking, my credit, FICO, law suits etc..,. Not the case.
The reps in the credit department at AMEX are providing the cardholder with false information and blaming Experian for their decisions.
AMEX is suffering financially and by paying them monthly or in large payments, in return, you are only being punished. Even worse, your credit scores are dropping because of the limit decreases.
It will take years before they can recoup the money their cardholders owe them if monthly payments stop. In addition, the cost of legal proceedings is the last thing AMEX wants at the moment. By that time, the FTC will hopefully have already investigated AMEX
By not paying, it actually puts the power in YOUR HANDS. When AMEX is hunting you down for their money, negotiations take place. If you owe $10,000, they will most likely take much much less just to settle the case.
They feel WE are a risk? A cardholder like myself and all of you who are responsible and pay on time for years at a time. Okay AMEX, your are correct, I am a risk, which is why I'm not paying you anymore.
I recently paid my annual $450.00 application fee for the platinum card I've had for 10 years. One month later, they placed a credit limit of $1500 on the card. I demanded I be refunded the application fee due to the change of agreement they implemented on their own accord (and for no reason). I suspect (in fact, I know) they "waited" until the annual fee was due before placing the limit, otherwis, I would not have renewed it. AMEX agreed to "place the card under investigation". Bottom line, cardholders pay the fee BECAUSE their is no pre-set spending limit. Since there is now, I am entitled to a refund. If not, it is considered fraud.
I'll repeat myself to everyone who has been affected by AMEX. DO NOT MAKE YOUR MONTHLY PAYMENTS. The credit bureaus are aware of AMEX situation and their unfair practices.
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by Ryan P. Posted Mon June 9, 2008 @ 3:05 PM
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I have been an American Express member since 2004. I regret having to carry a balance with any lender, but as a necessity, I figured American Express would be the most credible creditor (pun intended.) I made a ~$6000 payment in May 2008, and American Express promptly 'rewarded' me by locking my account and dropping my credit limit so that I only had ~$150 available credit! I thought I'd be doing my credit score a favor by making a payment, but in reality, I was now at 95% credit utilization!
Remembering my very positive experiences with American Express in the past, I figured that someone would easily be able to explain and fix the problem. What I got instead was a different story. I was never notified that my account was 'locked'. I only found out that my account was locked when transactions started failing. Nowhere on the AMEX website showed that my account was locked. Customer Service confirmed that it was 'under review' and would be cleared up 'within 24-48 hours'. After 50 hours, my account was unlocked and my credit limit was dropped.
I used the Consumerist.com Executive Customer Service phone number, and spoke to 'Holly', who told me that "It is policy NOT to notify customers. You see, we used to tell customers ahead of time, but they charged all the way up to their limit once we notified them. So now, we don't notify customers anymore." I emailed Ken Chenault (CEO of American Express) to rectify the situation.
I asked for 3 things:
(1) Reverse the 'payment punishment' and put my limit where it was (or at least 70% above my balance.) In addition, fix your 'automated' computer system from triggering a "hard review" when a customer makes a large payment, especially for those who have had good payment history.
(2) Notify me on any change (via email/phone) in any case where my account is locked, under review, or credit limit is adjusted.
(3) Make it an option for ALL customers to be notified (via email/phone/post.) I don't want anyone else to go through unexpected surprises. I cant imagine someone traveling and finding their card is unusable.
I got an emailed response on June 4th, 2008, but it came from 'Holly' whom I had spoken to earlier on the phone. She said she would not be putting my limit back where it was, and that "Our Account Services Division is not required to send prior notification when an account is under review for a line of credit decrease and when charging privileges have been suspended."
I am holding out hope for a kind soul at American Express to do the right thing and fix my limit and . Otherwise, I am closing my account and never returning!
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by Annasky S. Posted Thu April 17, 2008 @ 8:33 PM
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Yeah a similar incident happened to me. I hate friggin AMEX now. I had a credit limit of 6000 and I paid my balance down to 3400. Not to mention, I've always paid on time and above min. payment. Next thing I know, they lowered my credit limit to 3500 without notice!!! I called amex and demanded an answer, the rep said "we review our customer's credit report every 3-6 months....we will lower the credit availability to the amount we're comfortable with" So i asked "well gee why didn't you lower it to $3000 or to $0 while you were at it" and he replied "we can't lower the credit limit below your balance" Grrrrr friggin A!! Oh and to top it all off...they do not automatically offer you a credit increase, you have to call them and submit a request that requires a hard pull against your credit report. Talk about hypocrites. Thanks to them, my FICO score dropped which prolly means they'll be lowering my limit once I pay it down. If you ask me, I think this is their way of slowly trying to get rid of you...once I pay off my remaining balance...which is pretty soon...I wouldn't be suprised to have my card denied and to only find out AMEX automatically reduced my limit to zero. Mean while...I have a citicard that automatically raises my credit limit every 6 months without asking. Some ppl might not like that but I love Citi for doing that...proves they care about us..or our money for that matter haha!
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by Knuckles Posted Sun April 6, 2008 @ 1:18 AM
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You started with a 0 balance, and then you got into a postion where you started carrying a balance from month to month. Big mistake with a credit card. One of the worst kinds of "loans" you could have.
At the risk of sounding like the "snake bite" tape loop, my advice would be pay off your card - especially in this evironment where cash makes only 2-3% if you put it in a money market account. It is insane to borrow money at 7%, 9%, etc.
Your end of the bargain includes paying off your balance. I have always paid my card on time and in full; my credit limit does nothing but go up.
How can you lose access to *your* cash by having your limit reduced? You are losing access to AMEX's cash, not yours.
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by Jo23 Posted Sat April 5, 2008 @ 6:59 PM
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Amex did the same thing to me. It seems to be something that they do often. I would be interested to know what their response is to you as they never responded to me when I complained.
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