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Dogs can fly, but they can't ride the rails?

Posted Fri March 7, 2008 6:33 pm, by Christy H. written to Amtrak

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Why do you still not allow dogs? I can fly with my dog yet I can't take the train with her. I would be using your services at least once a month, instead of renting a car if I could bring my dog. A lot of the people I work with and my neighbors have dogs; Portland is a very dog friendly city. We would all be using the train a lot more if you would allow dogs. You can even require they be in a carrier, or a note from the vet declaring the animal safe for traveling.


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by WillTravel4Food Posted Fri January 13, 2012 @ 9:50 AM

Right On Christy! This is not only an anti-green Amtrak policy, as it
encourages SOV use instead of rail patronage, but it is a classic
example of Amtrak's failure to seize a private-sector partnership
marketing opportunity.

As a resident of South Florida, I feel far more threatened by
Hurricanes because I cannot depend on Amtrak to get me past the cars
of central Florida and out of here if need be (because of the pet
policy). I can of course walk my dog at all crew-change stops, such
as Jacksonville, Florence and Richmond.

There are now national chains of doggie hotels. Amtrak could make
additional income if it would seek corporate partnerships with such
firms to offer national-ish ground level, safe, unpressurized,
"accompanied" transport for caged dogs of all sizes. This could be
accomplished with a partnership dog hotel firm and a single on-board
employee in a single converted, heated/ACed boxcar with a
custom-engineered waste disposal system. On a few, select routes, you
could cover most of the national marketplace. Animal check inand pick
up could happen at select pet hotels in the pet hotel chain nearest to
the most functional railcar loading and unloading locations for rail

How about an Amtrak RFP on the transportation of dogs? NARP, are you
out there somewhere?
* Miami to Boston
* NYC to Chicago
* Chicago to LA on route of the SW Chief
* San Diego to Oakland or San Jose or Seattle

by Sandy at the Beach Posted Tue June 15, 2010 @ 11:32 AM

Your pet can travel with you on most trains in Europe including
France, Germany and Italy.

England: Pets are accepted trains operated by National Rail. For other
lines in the UK check with the Railway as some do not allow pets. For
information on the trains operated by NATIONAL RAIL scroll to the
bottom of the page.

In most cases, small dogs travel free or at a minimal charge, and
large dogs travel at half the 2nd class fare, even if traveling with
passengers in 1st class; this charge is payable directly to the

Often, dogs are required to be kept in a traveling container or must
wear a muzzle and a leash. Dogs in a carrier may travel at a minimal
cost, depending on the country. A small domestic animal in a carrier
can travel free of charge. Dogs for the blind, travel free of charge.

Dogs are allowed on trains as long as the other passengers sharing the
car/compartment agree to it. A dog is allowed in a sleeper car only if
it is fully occupied by the owner (i.e. two passengers with a dog in a

Dogs/other animals are not allowed on all trains in Great Britain,
Ireland, or Norway but are allowed on many of the local trains. No pet
or animal, except guide dogs, may be taken on the Eurostar. You should
always double check all rules locally.

The operator of most of the trains in Spain is a company called Renfe.
Their website is www.renfe.es. They do accept pets on their trains but
the pet must be in a container such as a pet crate or Sherpa or

In Finland as in most countries you will need to purchase a special
ticket for your pet.

To purchase your travel documents, or for further information you can
visit the Rail Europe web site at www.raileurope.com.

Passengers may take with them, free of charge and subject to
conditions below, dogs, cats and other small animals (maximum two per
passenger) provided they do not endanger or inconvenience passengers
or staff.

Dogs must be kept on a lead at all times unless contained in a basket.
Dogs without leads, cats, birds and small animals must be carried in
an enclosed basket, cage or pet carrier. It must be rigid and not open
(to prevent escape) and the animal able to stand and lie down in

Animals and containers must not occupy seats, otherwise a charge will
be made.

Animals are not allowed in restaurant cars except for blind persons'
guide dogs or deaf persons' assistance dogs, which may be allowed into
the restaurant car at the Steward's discretion. However, every effort
is made to serve meals at blind or deaf persons' seats within the
normal seated accommodation.

Blind persons' guide dogs or deaf persons' assistance dogs are allowed
on Sleeper services provided the blind or deaf person and dog are
booked into single-cabin accommodation. The guide or assistance dog is
conveyed free and no cleaning charge applied.

ScotRail allows dogs to accompany able-bodied passengers in Sleeper
services subject to a charge for a heavy duty clean, and the booking
must be either Standard Class with two people travelling together,
otherwise a Solo supplement is payable for exclusive use of a
twin-berth cabin. Booking for all dogs travelling in Sleepers should
be made at least 48 hours in advance.

By-law 16 allows the train company to refuse carriage or entry to any
animal. If a customer objects to the presence of an animal, the owner
must move it to another part of the train or put it in a suitable
container in the guard's van/luggage van where available. When dogs
are carried in the guard's van/luggage van (other than those in a
container) they must be secured with collar and chain and properly



by Getting there Posted Mon March 10, 2008 @ 3:42 PM

Even though I am a dog person, I often wonder why dog people feel so
entitled to bring their dogs everywhere. You don't see fish people
demanding to bring the fish along. Or how about chincilla people or
ferret people, or snake people, or hamster people, or even cat people?
Why do we allow for the ritual discrimination of non canine animals?


Dogs can fly by Sandy at the Beach Tue June 15, 2010 @ 11:30 AM

Re: Dogs can fly, but they can't ride the rails? by gurisu j. Fri April 15, 2011 @ 7:51 AM

by ~Fiâi-la-âlea~ Posted Sat March 8, 2008 @ 10:28 AM

Dogs are an insurance liability. They have the potential to do damage
to property or even people. Even your homeowners policy may have a
stipulation about the type of dog you may have in your house.


The only way.. by Harleycat Sat March 8, 2008 @ 11:12 AM

We are going by ~Fiâi-la-âlea~ Sat March 8, 2008 @ 12:27 PM

by Gino Posted Sat March 8, 2008 @ 3:31 AM

I know they're not allowed on busses unless they're guide or
assistance dogs.

I wonder if they'd be allowed on the train where the people are? I
don't think the cargo area of a train is dog-friendly, I imagine the
noise alone would be traumatic. It's an interesting suggestion, I'd
like to see what their response would be.


"I wonder if they'd be allowed on the train where the people are?" by All About the Branding Sat March 8, 2008 @ 7:50 AM

I didn't bother reading their policy, but I like it a lot by Gino Sat March 8, 2008 @ 9:56 PM

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