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by PattiM Posted Sun February 18, 2007 @ 1:25 PM
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It's a new practice for credit card processors to authorize and hold funds for 20% over the amount of the charge for service industries in which tipping is customary. It is not the restaurant that is authorizing and holding over the amount - it is the processor. The restaurant has no control over it.
The same applies when using your debit card as they are processed through the same processor.
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Oops!
by PattiM Sun February 18, 2007 @ 1:34 PM
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I think you are completely in the right to want this fixed. And the people who say "Well, you should make sure to have more money in your account!" need to STFU. Why does it matter how much money was in your account? If the restaurant had told you they did an overcharge to insure being paid, or included a tip, then you could have planned around it. They didn't, so they're in the wrong.
Good luck getting this fixed! I've had this happen way to many times to count. I've never been overdrawn because of it, but it's still annoying when I'm balancing my checkbook!
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by Peter Ceccarelli Posted Wed February 14, 2007 @ 7:12 PM
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I think the extra five dollars was most likely "war" pay for putting up with you.
Why don't you invest five dollars in a new brain. You need one! And since when did credit card purchases get deducted from your checking account?
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They probably added an extra $5 hoping that you would not notice so they can pocket an extra %5 in tips.
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When a customer pays for their meal with a debit/credit card in a full service restaurant, there are generally two transactions done. The first one is when the customer hands the card over to pay the bill.
The waitress/waiter then runs the card and gets a "pre-authorization" for the amount of the bill plus a preset amount (in this case it looks like 10%). Since the restaurant doesn't know if the customer is going to leave a tip (or how much if they do) they need to include an estimate because there are many times when a card will authorize for the bill amount however the addition of a tip would cause the card to be denied.
The pre-authorization may create a hold on an account for more than the actual bill however this is only temporary and is updated after the customer signs the bill and adds (or doesnt add) the tip. At that point the server goes back to the terminal, finds the transaction and adjusts the total based on what the customer signed for.
If the server doesnt update the transaction (either forgets or does it on purpose) then the pre-authorization is converted to an actual transaction at the end of the day when the card totals are batched for delivery to the bank.
That's what likely happened in this case...the customer didn't leave a tip on the card but the transaction wasn't updated by the server.
There is a simple fix to this problem and it doesn't involve using PFB to complain. All the customer has to do is take their signed receipt with the original total along with her bank statement showing the erroneous charge to that Applebees and ask them to refund the difference. She can also use that visit to express her complete unhappiness with how her transaction was handled.
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by KamenRiderOsaka Posted Tue February 13, 2007 @ 11:53 AM
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This is something restaurants have been doing for awhile. They will do one of two things: One, they will run it for over as a hold to make sure they arent getting jacked out of money. Two, they will run it for more to guarantee the waiter/waitress gets a tip and then reimburse the overage. IHOP does this often, and the money is usually returned within 72 hours.
In the future, I recommend that you not go out and eat when youre dangerously close to being overdrawn.
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Debit cards
by tickytack Tue February 13, 2007 @ 11:06 AM
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by Jeffrey Posted Tue February 13, 2007 @ 9:30 AM
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This SOUNDS like an error, for which they should immediately correct. However, it's doubtful that they'll do anything for your overdraft. If you're keeping your account tight enough that $5 sets you over, then you don't have a sufficient cushion.
This said, I'm confused about something. You said you paid by "credit card." How in the world would this overdraw your checking account? Unless you have automatic payment of your credit card, you have the chance to review you CC bill and refuse payment for the wrong amount. If you are automatically paying credit card bills without reviewing them, let this be a good example of why you should always review your bill before it gets paid.
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Guess not.
by Jeffrey Wed February 14, 2007 @ 9:43 AM
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Harsh
by tickytack Fri February 16, 2007 @ 9:01 AM
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Yes, but
by tickytack Wed February 14, 2007 @ 8:15 AM
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Did you call the manager of that restaurant? That's the only way this will get resolved.
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