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Overdraft fees
Posted Wed July 29, 2009 2:16 pm, by Anna B. written to Bank of America
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I have been a Bank of America customer for several years now. Upon reviewing my online statement as I do daily, I saw my account being overdrawn and deposited funds the same business day. A few days later I was reviewing my online statement, again as I do daily, and saw 6 overdraft fees each $35. Having spoken with a rep and a supervisor, I am in no better position as I was prior to contact BOA for a solution to this problem. I explained to the supervisor numerous times that I did not see the account being overdrawn on the 27th as she claimed, but rather on the 28th when the deposit was made to bring the balance back to positive. She claimed that the charges were pending on the 27th and thus the overdraft charges are valid. She refused to "extend the courtesy" as it has been done in the past to refund the overdraft fees. She then continued to teach me "personal finance". I advised the supervisor that I had been utilizing the tools BOA so kindly provided for their customers, but it seems that those tools have cost me quite a bit in the long run. When the overdraft charges are valid, I don't request refunds. But when I track my account daily and fix problems as soon as they arise, I will not tolerate my money being stolen from me.
Refund the overdraft fees totalling $210 immediately.
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by Susan H. Posted Sun August 2, 2009 @ 8:40 PM
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BOA has always been notoriously not customer service centered. Change your account to a credit union. You will get much more personalized service from employees that actually care about you.
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by we gotta go! Posted Sun August 2, 2009 @ 2:52 PM
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Ah, yet another example of BoA's "creative banking". I was in a similar situation awhile back. I saw something online about to overdraft, immediately went and deposited cash to cover it, and relaxed. A few days later I noticed my balanace suddenly dipped much lower than it should have been, although I had cleared everything up that day and owed them NO overdraft fees. They had juggled some transactions around and tried to say that a certain amount of money was being held for an automatic payment that was to come out a WEEK later. After speaking with the branch manager and getting a refund, I closed all BoA accounts and moved to Wachovia, who are much more customer friendly. Like you I don't mind paying the fees when my account is actually in the negative at the END of a business due to a POSTED transaction that overdrew my account. But I will no longer put up with jugglign and nonsense. You are correct in stating that this is theft.
OP I suggest going to your local branch and talking to someone so you can state the facts of your situation in person. I believe you will have better luck.
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by MA Cunningham Posted Thu July 30, 2009 @ 11:44 AM
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are typically one time things. The fact that you are requesting the bank forgive 6 overdrafts when you indicate that you have asked them to forgive overdrafts before is a big reason why banks DO NOT extend these "courtesies" any more.
And if you are tracking daily as you say and reconciling against your receipts, you should be able to see that charges you know you made are not posted and need to be in the account before they do.
Putting money into the account once the payments have bounced is not "fixing the problem," it is paying back what you didn't have to spend in the first place. It's already too late to avoid the fees.
They are not "stealing" any money from you, they are taking fees that you were rightfully charged per the terms of your account agreement that you received when you opened the account.
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"She refused to "extend the courtesy" as it has been done in the past to refund the overdraft fees."
My experience has been that a bank may be willing to refund fees if it is a one-time situation. After that, they're a lot less likely to do so.
If overdraft fees are an ongoing issue, you may have to look at other options besides relying on a "courtesy" refund of fees. I know what's it's like to live paycheck-to-paycheck - a lot of people do these days - but if you're playing Russian Roulette with your funds, it stands to reason you're going to lose at some point.
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The bank is correct. You are incorrect. I suggest you switch to cash only.
Or stop using the internet to manage your checking account and use the darn check register to track how much money you ACTUALLY HAVE.
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by SusanB Posted Wed July 29, 2009 @ 4:46 PM
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The problem as I see it is that you have been relying on on-line banking to track your account instead of maintaining a paper check register. This method may seem old fashioned but to me it is the only thing that works.
And fixing problems as soon as they arise will result in overdraft fees. You need to have the money available in your account before authorizing debits. It appears that you had charges that were pending on the day before you made the deposit so unfortunately BofA was correct in charging you overdraft fees. If you had maintained a check register then this problem would never have occurred.
BofA did not steal your money - - you did not have sufficient funds available on the 27th to cover pending charges.
Banks are looking for ways to make money and it is the account holder's responsibility not to give them one.
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by Donno Posted Wed July 29, 2009 @ 2:41 PM
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if used incorrectly. You don't fix problems "when they arise" with a checking account, if you want to avoid overdraft fees. You have to prevent the problem in the first place.
You do need to learn what you refer to as "personal finance". If you open yourself up to the idea, it will save you a lot of money. I had two overdrafts in my life, and I learned my lesson. Here is one tip - they typically forgive one (1) overdraft. That is it. They keep good records.
I'm not going to try to teach you, because you obviously aren't ready for it. But I'll give you a hint - it is positive and negative numbers, a piece of paper and a pencil or pen. No internet, no phone, no ATMs. Just grade school math and your brain.
The bank doesn't owe you money. You need to figure out how to avoid overdrafts. You can start now, or later after hundreds of dollars more in fees.
You can always give up and use cash. There are no fees with cash.
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by Lisa H. Posted Wed July 29, 2009 @ 2:39 PM
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You mention that you have had fees refunded in the past by BOA, so I have to wonder if this is an ongoing issue for you?
You can't totally go by what you see on-line, and you do say that you saw your account overdrawn. So I'm not sure why you think the charges aren't valid?
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