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Arclight Cinemas

Posted Sun June 3, 2012 10:14 pm, by James L.


At the last minute I decided to see the 4:10 showing of The Avengers in 3D at the Arclight theater in Sherman Oaks. I have been to this theater dozens of times in the past and spent alot of money there. I purchased the ticket around 4:12 for $18.50, walked into the theater and discovered the movie had been switched to a smaller theater because Snow White was now playing and had been moved into the larger theaters. The theater was crowded. That was okay. But when I got to my seat I realized I would be surrounded by a group of obnoxious adults and kids. Two people were texting. Several other were talking and joking with each other. One small kid was hitting the back of the seat in front of him. I immediately knew my attending this show was a bad idea and there was a very good possibility this moviegoing experience would be a negative one.

I went back to the cashier, only about four minutes had passed, and told him I had changed my mind and just wanted a refund. I was told that I could not get a refund but Arclight would give me a pass for another show in the future. I really didn't want a movie pass, I just wanted a refund. I asked the cashier if I took the pass and chose a 2D movie in the future would Arclight refund me the difference between my original 3D ticket purchase. I was told no. I took the pass but felt like I had been ripped off.

I spoke to the Operations Manager, Edgar Lopez. He explained to me that since the movie had started (actually only the previews had just begun) they could not resell the ticket. I knew this wasn't true. I have been to Arclight many times and purchased tickets during the previews. I knew that if a customer went up to the cashier they would sell that customer a ticket for the film if a seat was available. Also, what if there was 100 seats available for the film. Does that mean Arclight still couldn't give me a refund because they couldn't resell my individual ticket. What the Operations Manager appeared to be telling me was their system could not make a refund but could sell a ticket. Mr. Lopez told me Arclight policy was not to issue refunds and his hands were tied by this policy.

I asked Mr. Lopez if a customer went into the theater and was physically attacked, walked out of the theater, police called, etc. and that customer missed the movie would the Arclight policy hold. Mr. Lopez said "No, under that circumstance we would refund the customer's money. It depends on the circumstances on a case by case basis. But that is not your circumstance." I told Mr. Lopez "I realize that but you just told me your hands were tied by a policy, I give you an extreme example of customer dissatisfaction and suddenly your hands are not tied by a policy. So you have the discretion to make things right with a customer, independent of some policy you are hiding behind, in my case you simply choose not to give me a refund. Lopez said "Well, yes. I certainly apologize but there is nothing I can do."

I also realized that if I had stayed in the theater and attempted to watch the film and been proven correct about having a horrible experience the same Operations Manager would have quoted the same policy to me. Keeping my money is more important that whether my moviegoing experience is good or bad.

So Arclight has my money and won't give it back. I will use the pass at some point in the future. I will also be more careful when purchasing tickets from Arclight and check out other movie theaters before I bring friends or family members to an Arclight theater. Keeping my $18.50 is more important to Arclight than keeping me as a customer. In the future, when I use that pass, I will also refuse to buy anything from their concession stands. Excellent customer service Arclight!


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by Jeff S. Posted Fri May 3, 2013 @ 1:32 AM

The management there psychically assaulted my friend trying to leave
the Sherman Oaks Arclight. So be glad management spoke and treated you
with respect. Then they filed criminal charges against them, in an
attempt to prevent themselves for being sued. The people running that
theater are horrible people.

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by Moof Posted Thu June 7, 2012 @ 11:42 AM

I agree. Arclight (a small Los Angeles based chain) prides themselves
on having the best moviegoing experience around. They charge high
prices but have a better picture quality, sound and most importantly
monitor the theaters for people texting, etc.

Sadly, the Sherman Oaks Arclight from my own experience is pretty much
the bastard child of the other Arclight theaters.

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by Nate. Posted Wed June 6, 2012 @ 1:04 AM

I agree, the policy is stupid. If people were being obnoxious and you
were here for 4 minutes and wished to leave, the manager should be
empowered to give you a refund. It's not like you sat through half the
movie, it was 4 minutes.

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The manager is empowered by jeishere Wed June 6, 2012 @ 8:55 AM

by spunkyboy08 Posted Tue June 5, 2012 @ 1:41 PM

What is with the sarcasm at the end of your complaint?

The movie had not even started. While it is true that people do talk,
text, & eat during the previews, it is much better to wait & see if
this continues once the movie begins. Yes, it can be annoying to sit
through a movie while people are talking & texting, but you did not
wait to see if that even happened. You just left the theater before
the movie even started. So you have no idea if that even happened.
What would have done if it did not happen?

The last time I went to the movies, the other patrons talked & sent
texts during the previews. But once the movie began, the room was
quiet. I enjoyed the movie. I was afraid that people would talk & text
during the movie, but that did not happen.

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Correction: What would you have done if no one talked during the movie? by spunkyboy08 Tue June 5, 2012 @ 1:54 PM


Talking in previews is perfectly acceptable. Even if someone else gets peeved by it by PepperElf Wed June 6, 2012 @ 10:23 AM

by RedheadwGlasses Posted Tue June 5, 2012 @ 12:27 PM

I agree with the theatre. Why?

Because the few times I go to movies, there will be people
talking/texting/goofing during the commercials and previews and I will
sit there, silently pre-fuming, assuming that this behavior will
continue once the movie starts.

And that never happens. People stop talking. They put their phones
away. They settle down.

You didn't even wait for the movie to start.

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by MA Bellamy Posted Tue June 5, 2012 @ 9:25 AM

seems more like a case of buyers remorse.

You purchased the ticket at(literally) the last second, seemed to find
everything possible that could be wrong with the facility and the
other patrons (and honestly, in 4 minutes, did you even give it a
chance?) and then demanded your money back. Yeah, I'm not seeing how
that's a logical conclusion.

As to the "extreme" example you gave, well, OK, but that didn't happen
to you! So why should your situation warrant an exception to the
policy?

You also say that you have been to this theater "dozens" of times.
So, what is the big deal if you have to use the pass for a future
show?

I'm sure you'll call me a "lemming" too, but I just can't see how you
came to this conclusion.

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by ST Posted Mon June 4, 2012 @ 2:23 PM

Maybe I missed it, but you could have asked a staff member to check
the theater. Almost every movie I go to, at some point there's a
theater employee in there, checking things out. If the distractions
were as bad as you indicate, they would have been able to address the
offending individuals, and then you could enjoy the movie (since it
hadn't even started yet). If the behaviors continue, then ask for a
refund, after having done everything possible to resolve the problem.

By not asking to have the issues addressed and declining a pass for a
movie at a future time, it just sounds like buyers remorse.

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Arclight Cinemas by James L. Mon June 4, 2012 @ 10:41 PM


The customer.. by Harleycat Mon June 4, 2012 @ 10:59 PM

Not agreeing with you by Lisa H. Tue June 5, 2012 @ 2:35 PM

by McJohn Posted Mon June 4, 2012 @ 2:10 PM

Sorry I agree with the others. You paid to see a movie, you opted not
to "assuming" you wouldn't enjoy it and they gave you a free movie
pass.

Seems very appropriate to me. How do you know the kids wouldn't have
settled down as soon as the movie started?

If you had waited and they didn't settle down you actually would have
had a more valid argument. Or at least had someone watch them and
potentially gotten them kicked out. My theater doesn't tolerate noisy
people at all, once I complain they send someone in to watch them,
they get warned once then removed.

They didn't take your money, you gave it to them. Then gave you free
tickets to come back at a time of your choosing.

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by Lisa H. Posted Mon June 4, 2012 @ 11:15 AM

" I told Mr. Lopez "I realize that but you just told me your hands
were tied by a policy, I give you an extreme example of customer
dissatisfaction and suddenly your hands are not tied by a policy. So
you have the discretion to make things right with a customer""

And that would seem to be the policy. That under normal
circumstances, no refunds. Under extreme circumstances (which yours
were not), the manager can give a refund.


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by Harleycat Posted Mon June 4, 2012 @ 2:11 AM

I have to agree with Steve Oh, you have been there before so what is
the problem with a pass for a later date? As you said, this was just
the previews. Since you seem fond of "what if", what if the movie
started and everyone quieted down and got engrossed in the movie?

You have been to this theater dozens of times and I assume enjoyed it,
why are you so quick to threaten to bad mouth them over this (in my
opinion) minor incident?

I usually try to give a business a second chance.

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Arclight Cinemas by James L. Mon June 4, 2012 @ 6:43 AM
by Steve OH (IO) Posted Sun June 3, 2012 @ 11:38 PM

your choice for it, just like your original deal. And as you have been
there dozens of times, the odds are pretty high that you'll go again.

Most theaters have a similar policy.

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Arclight Cinemas by James L. Mon June 4, 2012 @ 6:54 AM




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