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PFB Investigates - David's Bridal's Missing Customer Service
Posted Tue February 24, 2009 12:00 pm, by
David's Bridal is a nationwide chain of bridal retailers.
Over the past year, PFB has received 12 letters regarding their service, all negative. The most recent, a complaint about a heartless consultant, spurred a wide range of commentary and raised some interesting questions.
So I decided to investigate further.
The first thing I discovered is that it's easier to find a needle in a haystack than to find a way to contact anyone at David's Bridal corporate. I ransacked their public website and there is no "contact us" link, no "customer service" link....nothing...not even an online contact form. I even went to the "sitemap" page (pro tip if you're ever looking for something on a web site and don't wish to skip through all the pages, go to the site map page...it should list every section of the site as well as pertinent links) and struck out there. There was absolutely no invitation at all for customers to offer or provide feedback through their website.
Even though it's not stated, it appears that David's Bridal agrees wholeheartedly with some PFB commenters about speaking to the individual store managers if there is feedback to be delivered as you certainly aren't gonna get the opportunity to do so on their site.
But...oh wait...there IS a customer service number. To find it, here's what you have to do (take careful notes, there'll be a quiz later):
1.Click on the "help" link in the upper right hand corner of the main page.
2.Go all the way down to the bottom of the list of links on the right and click on press room
3.No, you're not there yet, sorry, this is harder than it looks. Click on media FAQ. There, if you're able to guess what the information says because the right side of the page is clipped off, you can find a phone number for a public relations agency. Which doesn't do you any good.
4.Go back and click on Media Contact Information. Aha....we struck gold! There is a customer service number. But wait....is it? There is a very stern warning that if you aren't a credentialed member of the media, your query will be discarded. Huh? Whuh?
5.We're brave so we called the number anyways.
In fact, we called the number eight different times. And every time we were greeted by a recording that stated they weren't available to take my call so leave a message. They try to get back to you as soon as possible but at any rate within 24 hours. So I left a message which stated who I was, who I represented and what my call was about. That was on Wednesday and I've not received a call back.
So I called the public relations number. And the person there referred me back to the customer service number and I explained I'd already left a message that hadn't been returned. I explained I was going to write a story on our main page about David's Bridal and their customer service and I wasn't particularly impressed with the hoops I'd had to jump through so far to reach someone. I asked the public relations person why David's Bridal made it so difficult for a customer to reach them. She had no answer. She took my contact info and promised to pass it along to the customer service department.
So here it is Tuesday. I had called the public relations number on Friday and they said they were passing my request on to David's Bridal right away. I told the PR person that I would wait until Tuesday and if I hadn't heard from them, I was going to write my story and note how we tried to speak to DB and no one was available. She said she would include that information.
Before calling the PR person on Friday, I did call a local David's Bridal store and spoke to Grace who was a manager but not the store manager. I asked if she could answer my questions and she said, no, all she could do was refer me to the customer service number. I asked if she could give me the name and phone number of someone above her who might be able to help me and she said, no, all she could do was refer me to the customer service number. Before hanging up, I managed to clarify the question of whether or not their salespeople are on commission...wait for it...they ARE. And before someone chimes in and says maybe they do it differently in different parts of the nation, she told me it should be the same in Seattle as Michigan and so on.
In a nutshell, this is a customer service disaster. David's Bridal provides absolutely no user friendly method to contact anyone above the store level. If you do happen to stumble upon the customer service number through great work and effort, you have to leave a message and hope someone calls you back. It's clear they funnel everything through the store which means, if you have a problem, you have to depend on the very same people who caused the problem to get a resolution. It would appear the only way to get the customer service number is through the store personnel because it's not located anywhere else.
And if you do happen to find the customer service number on their website, there is a STERN warning to only use it if you are a certain kind of caller. Even the recorded message at the customer service number contains another warning that you should not leave multiple messages if you haven't heard back because someone will get back to you.
It sounds to us like David's Bridal has a problem with complaints and, instead of making the process more user friendly, they actually created more obstacles (complete with warnings) that consumers have to navigate in order to get their voice heard. We don't believe that's the proper way to treat a customer and we think David's Bridal should rethink their whole approach to customer service.
In the meantime, we're happy to give their customers a voice...even if the company itself doesn't hear it, plenty of other people will. Because we are the voice of one...the power of many.
- Greg (PlanetFeedback's Mr. Helpful)
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by Risa Posted Tue February 23, 2010 @ 4:15 PM
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I had the worst experiance ever with Davids bridal. I went to the store in oklahoma city. Found the dress of my dreams. They only had it in a size 4 i'm a size 2. I called the little rock store in Ar. They had it in my size. When i told the ladies in the ok store i was just going to purchise the dress over the phone and pick it up. They said it'd be best for me to buy the four then exchange it for the two. Take into mind i was already exchanging a 99 dollar dress for this 499 dress. So i did as they told me. Both stores were in agreement and told me to do it this way. SO i drove six hours to little rock ar. They did not want to exchange the dress. They were rude and heartless. I broke down into tears holding my eleven month old baby in my arms. Finally as she is shutting the door in my face. I'M CRYING AND SAYING I DID WHAT THEY SAID. She snatched the dress from my arms, tore it out of the garment bag and shoved the new one in it. Walked to the dorr and threw it at me and my baby. Then slammed the door in my face. I have complained to several people with just an i'm sorry and when i couldn't get through to them that i'm sorry wouldn't be good enough i had my mother in law call. Then they proceed to tell her i was curseing at them. I wasn't even when i should have.
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Last week after much deliberation I purchased a dress at a David's Bridal location in Mishawaka Indiana. Meanwhile my mother was calling salons all over Chicago to find this gown by Impression that I have been wanting so badly,but could not afford.The very day after I purchased the gown from David's she called to inform be that she had found the gown and it would be her gift to me.
Assuming that it would be no problem because, #1)I had my receipt #2) the dress was on order and not even in my possession as of yet. I called David's Bridal to have the amount credited back into my account. In a very short tone the sales associate on the other end told me that" ALL SALES ARE FINAL".
I am in complete disbelief ,mostly because( I don't even have the dress yet!) Why wouldn't they be able to cancel an order ?I don't understand.I have not touched the dress I purchased and I'm stuck with all 700$ worth of it.
If anyone knows of some angle that I can use against them to get my money back, please let me know.
Angie
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by becky m. Posted Mon February 1, 2010 @ 10:26 PM
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I have just come from David's Bridal with my future daughter in law and her bridesmaids in an attempt to shop for wedding party attire. We had an appointment. Our "consultant" greeted us after a few minutes, told us which dressing rooms to use, and showed us where the dresses were. She advised us to look and begin trying on and she would be right back with us. After an hour and 10 minutes and trying on 9 or 10 dresses, we left the store, never again having contact with our "consultant". She was in full view of us the entire time tht we were there. never once were we asked how we were doing, did we need help, can I suggest something...nothing! When she saw us don our coats to leave, still nothing! I get better service at TJ Maxx!
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by Alison M. Posted Sat January 9, 2010 @ 5:31 AM
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I am very grateful that I have come across what you have to say about David's Bridal, because I am currently making attempts to put in a complaint. I was informed at a newly opened store that the alterations for my bridesmaid dresses were included and when my bridesmaids went back to the store for their fittings, they we slapped with an alterations fee equaling the amount of their dresses. When I called to store to get clarification, I was told that I was miss informed, and they would also not give me the name of the consultant that assisted my bridesmaids. When my bridesmaids went in for refunds of the alterations, since we were able to stop it in time, the consultants issuing the refunds did not know exactly what they were doing and would go back to the managers office. Not once did the manager appear, instead my bridesmaids needed to wait in the store about 30 minutes at witnessed nerved consultants and a cowardly manager.
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by Renee J. Posted Fri October 9, 2009 @ 7:32 PM
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I'm the "Pissed Off Bride". Fortunately, the Bridal consultant that worked with me was "Wonderful". The reason why I would like to encourage any one NOT to purchase from David's Bridal is because the management and customer serivce, in the Store in Norfolk, Va was Horrible!!. The arrogant witch,(some type of manager)sitting @ the front desk was cold and insensitive. On more than one occassion, this witch ignored my entrance to the store and decided to greet and help ladies of another ethnicity. It was because my wedding consultant was so nice(Veronica) I came back, specifically requested to be assisted by her and ordered my mother's dress and a jacket. I was contacted by phone, informing me that the jacket was back but that the dress was not. I waited and did not received any notification. I called and the "witch" (you know what I would like to call her...), in her arrogant tone, informed my that the dress had been back since Oct 2nd. I inquired about why I or my mother had not been informed and was told that they emailed me. I told them that I did not receive an email and inquired why I was called about the jacket and not called about the dress. She responded with an arrogant answer and it was all I could do to prevent from going to the store and shaking the sh.. out of her. My wedding is in 2 weeks and mom's dress needs alterations. I attempted to contact the corp office and like all the reviews I've read, I was unable to find a corp contact.
In this type of business, I believe it is imperative that customer service is top rated. I have not read one good review.Because of time restaints and the stress of planning a wedding, I did not address the "witch manager", but trust me, when this is all over,I'm going to the store and I assure you, they will never forget ME!
Thank you for this wedsite because I needed to say something to someone!
Signed;
The Pissed Off Bride!!!!!!!!
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hmmm
by Nate. Wed February 25, 2009 @ 8:04 PM
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by franese Posted Wed February 25, 2009 @ 1:47 PM
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I'm probably significantly older than most of the people who post here (57 years old)...I've known David's Bridal since I was old enough to know about bridal gowns- I don't know anyone who would shop there unless they wanted something very cheap and their feeling is you get what you pay for (there's always been plenty of word of mouth about them). Apparently they're still in business so their poor service doesn't seem to effect them and I doubt a blog on PFB will do anything either.
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by Jared C. Posted Wed February 25, 2009 @ 12:49 PM
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I am single, but if I ever plan to get married, I will absolutely convince my fiancee NOT to use David's.
We'll go someone that values its customers...and there's plenty of competition.
Thanks for the story and the input!
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by Agilipuppy Posted Wed February 25, 2009 @ 10:46 AM
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Well i'm glad you did this! And found out that they all are on commission. interestingly, when the 'store manager' called me back, she insisted my consultant was NOT on commission. Feh.
I did not receive an apology from them either, but it just proves what kind of company they are.
Caveat emptor.
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1001 Washington Street
Conshohocken, PA
610-943-5000
Press 2 for Customer Service, I think it's 8 for all other departments
Granted this information is not on their website but I found it in about 30 seconds.
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by Donno Posted Tue February 24, 2009 @ 8:15 PM
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is the warnings not to leave multiple messages. That is a hoot, considering that leaving one or ten results in the same response.
I can't see why they would care if the voice mailbox filled right up, and people were told they couldn't leave a message. They aren't going to bother returning the calls anyway.
What a poor way to do business. That is sad.
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by BellaSera Posted Tue February 24, 2009 @ 7:49 PM
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A few years ago, during my own wedding planning and dress research, I got addicted to reading all the David's Bridal horror stories. (And though I didn't join until later, that addiction is how I found PFB).
I wasn't surprised by all the stories as I had my own negative experiences with a local store. But I was truly shocked by the depth of many of the complaints and though many (if not all) were 100% valid, I was stunned by how many didn't get resolved despite being the store's fault.
The bigger the chain, the higher the number of complaints you'll get. As Venice says, it means more people are shopping at David's Bridal than at say, Ye Olde Bridal Shoppe. However, from what I've read from disgruntled customers, David's isn't too proactive in resolving the complaints they get, including the ones where they are clearly in the wrong. And while I agree about contacting the manager, from what I've read, in many cases the management IS the problem. So where do you go in that case? The lack of a phone number was a frequent comment made by customers seeking satisfaction. I've always felt that a company that makes a customer jump through hoops to contact them and hides behind voicemail is a company that doesn't really want to hear from their customers. And that always makes me wonder why.
This isn't to say ALL David's locations are bad. I know Harleycat had a great experience as did Venice and her daughter. I also had a great experience at another location. Despite it being a hectic Saturday, they were nothing but pleasant and patient with me even though I wasn't making a huge purchase. So, the good ones are out there. Perhaps even the majority of locations are well run, but the poorly run ones tend to stand out.
Oh, as for the salespeople being on commission? No big shock there. I didn't believe what they said in the "Heartless" letter one bit.
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by Suiren Posted Tue February 24, 2009 @ 7:31 PM
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I knew David's Bridal was bad from stories from friends, but when it was time to get my dress I decided to go with my fiance' if for no other reason than to show him what a bad bridal store looked like. I was 21 at the time, but to be fair I do look young. When I first went in they wanted me to sign in, which I knew was a bad idea since they promptly sell my information (which happened to me 4 years earlier when I went in for my prom dress shopping). I made up an address and then waited. And waited. And asked a consultant if she would help me (since you're not allowed to touch or look through dresses without permission) and she said sure, and lead me into the prom dresses. To which I said no, I was here for my wedding, and she laughed and walked away. Rinse, repeat. Every consultant insisted I was too young to be getting married, I even offered to show my ID but they laughed me off again. I left.
I figured I would go to a different store and have my fiance' wear his army dress uniform to see if they would take me seriously, but still, no luck. He even pulled out a few hundred in cash (thank god for deployment money) and said if anyone helped me here was the money we'd use. Still nothing. Promptly got my dress elsewhere and had a fun and wonderful experience shopping.
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by calm Posted Tue February 24, 2009 @ 6:35 PM
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On the "Contact Us" page (which was the top link when I googled "contact site:.davidsbridal.com," so I didn't bother trying to find it using the Site Map), it says "The Store Manager at each location will be happy to answer your questions and discuss your concerns. The store locator will provide you with the phone number and address of the store closest to you." It includes a link to the store locator. The same page includes a form for asking "online" questions. At the bottom of the page, they provide the number 1-800-517-1820 if you want to talk to "an Invitations Specialist" "regarding invitation etiquette." They've also got the number 877-923-BRIDE on the top of quite a few pages, if you want to call to make an appointment. And the press information page seems to me to be pretty easy to find, just like the "Contact Us" page.
It really doesn't sound as if they are all that worried about the press they get (on this site or perhaps on websites in general, or maybe at all), and it doesn't sound as if they are particularly interested in helping customers who are dissatisfied with the service they got at the store level.
But then again, they're in the business of offering customers a "personal" relationship (I imagine that the point of paying commission is to give employees an incentive to form that kind of relationship with customers) with someone at the store level (because the things they sell are the sorts of things most people want to see in person, to try on when appropriate, and to match to other products), over a short period (because by the time brides go shopping, a lot of them are already on a deadline). If someone isn't happy, it's in their best interest to resolve the problem quickly, because the longer the process of trying to keep the customer takes, the closer the wedding gets and the more likely the customer is to just go shopping somewhere else and restrict their relationship with David's Bridal to "being heard." It seems to me that it would be cost-effective to retain the easier brides, the ones who are going to be satisfied by being assigned a different "consultant" or going to a different store or having the store manager do something for them, and not worry too much about trying to keep the ones who are upset enough to want a more time-consuming intervention.
I get why you aren't happy with them. If I were going to get married, David's Bridal isn't a place I would go to. But I guess I just have a hard time getting all that upset that they want to steer disgruntled customers back to the store level. It makes sense to me that that's what they'd want to do, and as I say it only took me a few seconds to discover that, yes, that's how their website says they want to deal with complaints.
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by Final Score: Boys-3, Girls-1 Posted Tue February 24, 2009 @ 5:31 PM
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I was 21 when I got married. Apparently that means I didn't have money to spend on my wedding. David's totally gave me the shaft when I went in the first time to look for a dress. They sized me (not a big person), and told me I would wear a size 11, because wedding dresses run small. Then I was just pointed in the direction of the size 11 dresses and when I found ones to try on, they pointed me in the direction of the fitting rooms. I ended up finding a modest spaghetti strap dress with no train, perfect for our wedding in Jamaica. No thanks to the consultant.
Fast forward about two months. We decided to cancel our destination wedding and bump up the date and have a small, local, winter wedding. I went to David's Bridal with my MIL and son in tow, and asked for the 11s. The woman SNORTED at me, looked me up and down, and said "The FOURTEENS are over there."
Not to mention I had lost weight in those two months. I told her the dress I bought two months previous when I was 15 lbs. heavier was an 11, and no thanks, I would buy a dress elsewhere.
I found a very nice little shop owned by a sweet old Italian woman named Tina who customized me the most beautiful dress and called me "my little bride!" every time I came in. Size 8, thank you very much. I wanted so badly to send a copy of the $1000 receipt to David's to show them what they missed out on for being a bunch of jerks.
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They only stay in business because they have their $99 bridal gown sales during the year and most brides will buy one of these than spend thousands on something else they will never wear.
They have gone downhill rapidly and I think customer service is the first to suffer when a company is not doing well financially. The staff usually knows something is going on and they pass this on to the customers sometimes. Maybe this is one of those times???
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by SueNY Posted Tue February 24, 2009 @ 5:14 PM
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David's Bridal is horrible. I don't know how they stay in business.When I got married 2 years ago my bridesmaid ordered her gown there. They ordered the wrong color and first they refused to do anything about it, then said they would reorder but could not guarantee she would recieve the right color! Then when we asked then to do it on a rush basis (my wedding was just 7 weeks away!) they said even a rush would take 6-8 weeks. They were completely and utterly horrible and made it clear they really don't care about their customers.
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by Skatergirl Posted Tue February 24, 2009 @ 4:49 PM
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David's Bridal is the worst! I'm getting married this summer and I would walk down the aisle in a trash bag before i would ever buy my dress from David's Bridal. I went in the other day to look at bridesmaid dresses, because my mother wouldn't listen when i told her how bad David's Bridal is. As soon as i walked in, I was shadowed by one of their employees insisting I register with a consultant. I told the woman I just wanted to look around and I did happen to look at a few of the wedding dresses. I was scolded for taking the dresses off the rack to get a closer look at them. Needless to say, that was it for me. David's Bridal will never get one measly cent of my money. I don't need to be harassed just for coming in and looking around.
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My experience with David's was the complete opposite. I ended up at David's after being completely ignored at a local upscale bridal shop. I guess I didn't fit the image, older woman dressed as bikers dress.
I headed over to David's since I had seen something I liked on their website. I didn't want to spend thousands of dollars on a dress. I was immediately greeted (on a Saturday) and taken over to where the dresses were in my size. I saw the one from the website and my family saw some others they wanted me to try on. One of those was perfect and fit like a glove. I purchased it that day. From the purchase to my wedding, I lost about 25 lbs. My consultant tried to find the dress in a smaller size at another store but that style had been discontinued. I ended up having it altered and they did a beautiful job. My neighbor, a skilled seamstress, was impressed.
We did have an off putting exerience at the store where my sister, niece and mother got their dresses. Everything was fine until my mother picked up her bag and they had ruined the dye job. They wouldn't give her a refund without her receipt, she only had her claimcheck. They wanted an 80yr old woman to go crosstown in the August heat to get it. She asked me to drive (35miles) to her house and get her and the receipt and I really didn't want to do that. I called the store and was treated to the nastiest person I ever had to deal with. I just hung up on her, went online and found the number to their corporate headquarters. It only took a few minutes. I called and got someone who handled everything. She called my mother, got some info off the receipt and issued a refund.
My thought's on David's is that it is a big chain. The Wal Mart of the bridal biz. You are bound to have some people who have bad experiences. How many complaints have we seen here about Wal Mart, Target, etc? Are they all bad stores? Does everyone have a horrible experience shopping there? No, it's by sheer volume alone. They must be doing something right. I know of three other brides besides myself who got their dresses there and were all happy.
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I will never utter a positive word about David's Bridal, even if I had something positive to say. The negative experiences of friends is all I need to know. One friend took me with her to pick up her dress for moral support, because she'd already had run-ins with them. They purposely ordered her dress to be several sizes too big, so they could charge for alterations (which really is how they make their money). THen when they altered, they took it in too much and it was too small, and they weren't even sure they'd be able to find enough fabric to let it back out.
MEanwhile, my friend is in tears, and the store employees (all under 20) WERE JOKING AND LAUGHING. Even as we left the store, one of these brats called out "If you find some free money, let me know." WTF?
Anyone spending money on a dress for their wedding should do some internet/BBB research first, and that will be all they need to know to avoid that store. At the very least, buy your dress and find your own seamstress.
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by MA Cunningham Posted Tue February 24, 2009 @ 3:24 PM
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but David's is a cutrate dress store. It's like the WalMart of wedding dress shops. You really should not expect any kind of service in there and should only shop there if you know what you want and don't need any help because that is exactly what you'll get.
I bought my dress from them a million years ago when I was young, dumb and broke. It lasted about as long as the marriage did, so there ya go!
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