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$1000 phone bill
Posted Sat December 1, 2007 4:36 pm, by Guthrie M. written to Cingular Wireless (now ATT Mobility)
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I received a $1000 cell phone bill. My friend moved to Costa Rica, and we were talking quite a bit. She was paying 30 cents a minute on her Costa Rican phone card. I noticed it was very easy to phone Costa Rica on my cell phone, I had a big backlog of rollover minutes, and I trusted Cingular/ATT to provide comparable rates. So, I ended up with 500 minutes by the time the first bill came in. Cingular/ATT was charging $2 per minute, 7 times the Costa Rican rate!
I believe this is a corporate strategy to rip-off the small fraction of folks who fall into this situation. It seems to be a combination of making it very easy to make these types of calls and an exorbitant rate. I can't believe it costs Cingular/ATT 7 times more than the Costa Rican ICE for the phone service. I'm sure I'm not the only one who this happens to, who is maybe trusting the company to be fair, busy with other things and not having time to check rates beforehand, or whose kids just discover how easy it is to call Kazeckstan.
I would like Cingular/ATT to reverse this policy and either provide competitive rates or not offer the service. If the service is to be offered it should include a message at the beginning of the call such as "You will be charged $2 a minute for this call. Do you wish to proceed?"
I would like a responsible person at Cingular/ATT to respond to this suggestion.
Thanks
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by maeve Posted Wed January 2, 2008 @ 4:38 PM
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Bullocks.
You were talking on the phone using the minutes. They post their long distance rates. They do not OWE to you to match rates with an overseas carrier and vice versa! Grow up and accept that you goofed and ran your bill up!
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by April Smith Posted Sat December 8, 2007 @ 9:16 PM
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yes, you should have read your rates before hand. But yes, they should be required to notify you at the beginning of the call that it is going to cost 100X's a normal call.I'm sick of people saying "well ya should have read this and that or and that 1,000 page packet over there". I am a fine print reader but can defnitely understand it's not for everyone. Some contracts are extremely long and filled with lots of legal jargon. No one is saying you should get away with never reading them, but I think a little understanding is in order. And if these companies are going to continue to inconvenience people with time consuming contracts, why can't we make them waste time notifying us. Just like the overdrafts from banks
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by Rhet Canter Posted Wed December 5, 2007 @ 6:11 PM
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People who don't like to take resonsibility for their actions and then when things don't work out the way you'd like them to, or expected them to, you blame others for your reality. Get over it dude. You made the calls. It's to a foreign country. And when you say "how easy they make it to call Costa Rica"......hey guess what? All phone calls are "easy" to make. It's not like you have to climb to the top of a 500 foot tower, stand on your head, and then twirl around 3 times to make the call, now is it?
Wow.......you're a trip. Pay your bill. Trust me, they aren't going to reverse the charges. If you don't pay the charges, it will rather quickly affect your credit and then you're hosed for a very long time. Have you noticed what the sub prime rate issue has done to this country lately? And you think you have problems now. Don't pay the bill and see how many years of agony you'll have to pay. It's not worth it in the long run!
Peace!
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by T. H.M. Posted Mon December 3, 2007 @ 8:55 PM
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Why didn't you just call Cingular/AT&T before you dialed to Costa Rica and find out what the rates were?
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I'm sorry everyone here is being so mean to you. Yes, it was your responsibility to check the rates first, and I agree with a couple of the posters that that is not your service provider's responsibilty. At least you're not asking that the debt be forgiven, or asking for credit, as some people here are failing to understand.
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Being Mean
by Adam D Thu December 6, 2007 @ 5:06 PM
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by The little Pie is almost done cooking! Posted Mon December 3, 2007 @ 8:53 AM
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Buddy, if Verizon won't credit the guy whose house burned down $200, Cingular (who is WAY worse about giving credits, even for their OWN mistakes) certainly won't credit you 5x as much because you failed to check the rates before calling Costa Rica.
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by Gino Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 11:30 PM
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I received...
I Noticed...
I Trusted..
I ended up with 500 minutes...
I had a big backlog of rollover minutes...
I trust...
I believe...
I can't believe it costs...7 times more than Costa Rican Ice..
I'm sure I'm not the only one...
I would like....to reverse this policy..
I would like a responsible person...
Here's two suggestions,
Talk less and buy a ticket to visit Costa Rica,
OR
Be responsible and pay your bill!
When in Rome, do as the Romans do...
Veni, Vedi, Visa
I came, I saw, I shopped and I whipped out my Visa to pay my $1000.00 phone bill.
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by Blackrack Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 7:07 PM
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I'm going to touch this hot burner. I trust it won't hurt because the other burners that are off don't hurt.
Personal responsibility. If the Costa Rican phone company jumped off a cliff, would AT&T do it, too?
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by StoicGrrl Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 6:53 PM
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According to AT&T's website, it costs $2.19/minute to call Costa Rica from the United States. I found that information in under 30 seconds simply by Googling "cingular international rates." Clicking on the very first Google result brought me to a page referencing international calling. That is clearly not "hidden" information.
Googling "cingular contract" brought me to this section of the contract which you signed when you started service: "Included long distance calls can be made from the 50 United States, Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands to the 50 United States, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam and Northern Mariana Islands. Roaming charges do not apply when roaming within the service area of land-based networks of the 50 United States, Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands. International long distance rates vary. Additional charges apply to services used outside the land borders of the U.S., Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands." Again, under 30 seconds of internet surfing, and clearly not hidden information.
A responsible person may or may not read every single word of their contract prior to signing it, but they could be expected to abide by its terms after having done so. I'd like to feel sympathy here, but you signed the contract, and the information was there.
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"I trusted Cingular/ATT to provide comparable rates"
That's a misuse of the word "trust." I suggest this instead: "I assumed Cingular/ATT would provide comparable rates." Cingular/ATT gave you no indication as to what the rates were for international calls. You know what happens when you assume? You make an ass out of you and umption!
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by Adam D Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 12:27 PM
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It is in the contract. International calling is not free. You signed the contract therefore you are responsible for it. I'm sorry the rate was so high, but again, it was in the contract that YOU signed
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I agree that the rate was high, however you really need to check out what you're going to be charged before you make the calls.
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by Andrew 1 Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 11:35 AM
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Phone companies are among the most notoriously dishonest about rates, often hiding them when they are, like in this situation, gougingly high. It does not cost them two cents a minute to make these calls go through. So two dollars a minute is gouging.
However, this is one of those things a consumer has to learn. It does not cost ATT more than one cent a minute to call another area code either, yet if you use any pay phone, you'll be throwing quarters in there every five seconds. There is nothing you can do about this, except learn how to avoid these charges. Using a phone card is ideal. I call the US from Europe using one, for fifteen dollars you get five hundred transatlantic minutes. But like anything, you have to take responsability and go look for the deals.
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by Angelic Princess:) Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 10:58 AM
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Ohhh here is another one who wants the charges reversed because they were too lazy to check first before proceeding. Pay the bill, like many others have already said."or whose kids just discover how easy it is to call Kazeckstan."-It's the parent's fault for leaving their cell phone unattended.. and if the kid has a cell phone (not one meant for a child).. The CHILD shouldn't have one!!
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by billt Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 10:10 AM
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ATT needs an extra $1000.00. This will be for payment of the new handholding service designed for you.
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by Susie Q Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 10:06 AM
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Wow, unless you have international calling on your cell phone (which is actually failry cheap), use phone cards. I regularly call friends in Guatemala and use a combination of phone cards and my international calling plan on my cell.
You should never assume anything. It is not Cingular/AT&T's responsiblity to inform you each time you make a call of the rates.
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by Jeffrey Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 8:58 AM
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Folks. This is clearly a joke. No one could possibly think this way.
Or could they?
"I noticed it was very easy to phone Costa Rica on my cell phone,"
I noticed it was very easy to slice up puppies with my new Wusthoff knife set. I believe this is a corporate strategy to create world domination for cats.
"...whose kids just discover how easy it is to call Kazeckstan [sic]."
My kid just discovered how easy it is to pee on the rug. Looks like I should be writing a letter to the rug people complaining about this.
"I would like a responsible person at Cingular/ATT to respond to this suggestion."
A responsible people would ignore this ridiculousness.
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by Cor H Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 8:21 AM
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It is unreasonable to expect Cingular/ATT or any company to assume their customers are incapable of finding out the rates or terms of use or any other easily-obtainable information and to be forced to provide that information each time their service is used. Can one imagine how annoying it would be if, every time a call were placed, a message reminded the customer how much the call would cost?
Even on a very basic level, a company must assume its customers have read and understood the information necessary to use the service or will find out that information ahead of time if it is needed. Obviously, some people will not do this, but is it really a good idea for the company to second-guess its customers' intentions and assume that no one has bothered to familiarize themselves with the terms of use?
In my opinion, doing so requires a company - any company - to make estimates of the intelligence of its consumers. I believe that most companies like to think their customers are reasonably intelligent and educated enough to find out the information they need before using the service.
I would hate to live in a world where every business is forced to assume its customers are stupid and ask them each time the service is used if they mean to do it.
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by Ahsha Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 7:27 AM
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You didn't have time to check rates, but had time to talk to Costa Rica for 500 minutes. Do you see how crazy this sounds? You are in the wrong here. Pay your bill and be more responsible in the future.
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by U B Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 6:54 AM
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" I'm sure I'm not the only one who this happens to"
I hope to God you are.
I bet you don't even understand that YOU are the reason toasters have warning labels like, "Do not make toast in a bath tub full of water", or why a frozen pizza box needs a label that says, "Not to be taken rectally".
I don't think I have ever read or heard a dumber complaint letter in my life. This is just absurd.
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LMAO! n/t
by ~Leanne~ Sun December 2, 2007 @ 7:27 PM
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by donno Posted Sun December 2, 2007 @ 2:45 AM
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So you assumed, and for what reason? And now that you found out your assumption was incorrect, your question is what?
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by PaintedLady Posted Sat December 1, 2007 @ 9:06 PM
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I'm loving the irony of an unresponsible consumer wanting a responsible employee to assist them regarding his lack of responsibility.
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Well said.
by donno Sun December 2, 2007 @ 2:42 AM
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by calm Posted Sat December 1, 2007 @ 8:46 PM
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The small fraction of folks who fall into what situation? Calling other countries in non-emergency situations without finding out what it is going to cost until the bill is a thousand dollars? If you don't have time to check rates and you don't have a lot of spare money lying around just waiting to be sent to the wireless company, then you don't have time to be calling Costa Rica. Period.
You can try to spin this so that the wireless company is doing something wrong, but you are the one who agreed to these rates when you signed up or renewed your contract and then went off and did something really stupid.
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by |Ev1L| Posted Sat December 1, 2007 @ 5:55 PM
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PS.
or whose kids just discover how easy it is to call Kazeckstan
I do not take people who spell phonetically very serious.Grow up you big baby.
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by |Ev1L| Posted Sat December 1, 2007 @ 5:49 PM
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You have alot of "trust" in life. You assume no responsibility for your actions and you wrongly assume people are as stupid as you are.
How exactly can you compare the price of a pre-paid landline card with the rates for cellular service? They use different methods of bringing voice communications to you and guess what.....one is more expensive than the other.
As far as the "ease" of calling internationally goes, I would like to believe parents would block international dialing. Here is a newsflash for you: when you sign up for cell service, it is not like your phone service. You actually have a different set of terms and conditions to abide by. You are definitely correct: this affects a small faction of individuals--the ones who do not read contracts, the ones who sign up for things without reading the fine print and those lovely people who do all of the above and still feign ignorance and abuse the system.
BTW--while I was typing this, the village called. they were wondering when you were coming back.
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by Kelshir Posted Sat December 1, 2007 @ 5:10 PM
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It is your job to find out how much a call is per minutes, not the phone companies job to baby you through every phone call.
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