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20 Year Plus Customer Angered by $10 Checking Plus Fee
Posted Sat November 15, 2008 2:06 pm, by c s. written to Citibank N A
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Shame on you for charging $10 fees for using Checking Plus, an account you have promoted for free for the decade or so I've been using it. You worked hard to create a banking practice where users briefly borrowed money from Citibank at 18%+ interest. The whole point of checking plus is to not have to check as to whether you have overdrawn your account. Whoever came up with the great idea of giving people the same day to get money back into the account to cover must not be living in the real world. Having to do this is the same thing as having to cover an overdraft only the charge is smaller. If you need to raise the interest rate on the borrowing, do that.
Checking Plus is now pointless. If you want to close the program do, but this is a poor business practice. I bet some 25-year-old MBA had this bright idea. Shame on you for following the greed and pickyness of other banks. Citibank has been great due to innovation, not this kind of idiocy. I promise you that the ill will you are generating toward Citibank dwarfs any tiny revenues this hand into our pockets technique will generate. I can't tell you how this has undermined my confidence in you as a banking institution. Are you under new management?
I'm taking my $70,000 and going elsewhere.
Do away with the $10 fee. Period.
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by Chani Posted Fri May 1, 2009 @ 6:46 AM
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Now I am not filthy rich, I am still young and me and my husband are trying to get out of student loan payments etc so hopefully in a couple of years we'd be more financially stable.
I have been with Citibank for almost 8 years. Although we don't have a handsome amount of funds sitting around in our accounts, we too are being hit with this outrageous fee.
My husband is the main breadmaker between us. Him and I have the joint account, and I also have a personal account which I've had the longest, and I have it linked to my debit card. Like many people, we often need to group up errands and go grocery shopping on the way home from an appointment, etc. And sometimes, I will overdraft from my account, thinking, well, I'd just go home and transfer funds over and it'd be fine. The annual $5 and the APR they charged over the overdrafted amount was acceptable to me. It seemed fair: I pay $5 to join in on the protection you are getting, and in cases I do overdraft, Citibank makes some money off of APR... which was really high to begin with, but as long as I transfered funds around within a day or two, it was no biggie.
Now, if I even go $0.01 overdraft, they move $100 over from Checking Plus, and if we happen to be out with our friends and not come home until the clock turns to the next day, Citibank sucks up $10 AND interest from my account based on $100, not $0.01. What an obnoxious blatant way to suck their customers dry.
I asked a customer rep how the hell that is supposed to help us consumers. The rep repeatedly explained, quite literally like a broken record, that this is an IMPROVED system so we don't have to pay any annual fee, and that the overdrafted amount will show as a negative number in red online, and if we don't want the overdraft protection, we can just pay it off that day and we won't get charged at all.
Seriously... I asked him, "oh, so you are basically charging us $10 everytime we are even $0.01 overdrafted, and at the same time shove your customers the work of clinging to our computers every hour ensuring we won't get overdrafted and if we do pay it off immediately?" The rep just repeated the exact same explanation. It was so useless, I spoke to his supervisor and then had them file a complain, noting that they will definitely be losing my business and that this negative experience shall be known on the web and everyone that I know.
My husband and I will be opening a checking account with either Schwab or INGdirect where their terms are MUCH MUCH more customer friendly and I will be cutting all ties with Citibank. No offense to the shareholders, but honestly, I will be laughing the day Citibank folds.
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by sekmet41049 Posted Mon April 27, 2009 @ 4:27 PM
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I agree 30 plus custermer with over 1 mil $ going through my account over the 30 years, plus a mortgage. IIt is not only checking+ fee, but we transfer money all over the world and we are charged from the sending bank and the receiving bank. I think we should be all banking under our mattress.
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by Andy Shoyer Posted Sat January 31, 2009 @ 8:22 PM
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Indeed, this is greed on a shameful scale. I am willing to bet that the people that came up with this idea also stumped their feet to make sure they got their 2008 bonuses notwithstanding the taxpayer's money that Citibank had received in bailout.
US$10! What serious and scrupulous corporation is willing to put their reputation on the line for that amount of petty cash?
I say: Not only do away wit the $10 fee, but also return that amount to the customers that have been unfairly prejudiced by this ridiculous new policy.
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by Adam O. Posted Fri January 2, 2009 @ 10:16 AM
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Another 15 year plus customer here, and I just got socked with the fee with an Everything Counts checking account. Both Bank of America and Wachovia waive their line of credit overdraft fee for their premium checking accounts. I for one will be terminating my relationship with Citibank (about $50K with them) unless this fee is done away with.
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by Otis N. Posted Wed December 3, 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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Just wanted to chime in. I am also a 20-year plus customer and find these new charges very troubling. It amounts to eliminating Checking Plus, since no one in their right mind will risk letting their account get close to zero now. A $20 check could lead to a $10 fee if it puts you over the edge. And if one has to manually transfer funds from checking plus, chances are, one will choose to add funds some other way -- from savings or from sources of borrowing with lower interest rates.
This is a stupid policy and will also discourage my use of my Citibank ATM/Debit card for ordinary purchases. For maybe the next few weeks. After that, I will not be a Citibank customer at all.
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by deathtospam Posted Wed November 26, 2008 @ 9:58 PM
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I logged into my Citibank account today and was surprised to find three $10 new charges under the heading "OD PROTECTION TF FEE". I had never seen any kind of overdraft fees before -- just the high APR that's charged on the overdrawn balance until it's paid off -- so I called customer service. Sure enough, they instituted this new policy as of early November (5th? 7th?).
I've been a Citibank customer since 2000. My credit score is 800+. What executive board of skinflints came up with the brilliant idea to implement this policy with no prominent advance notice at the dawn of the worst US recession since the Great Depression? Is this their bold new solution to solving the frozen credit crisis: beg for a government bailout, and then charge its customers an arm and a leg for the most basic of services?
I'm fortunate in that I have a secure job that pays well, low debt-to-limit ratio and no more college loans (will be paid off next month). My wife and I have been saving up to buy an apartment for two years, and we were hoping to buy something in 2009. That was before the market crashed, but even so, we're only 12-18 months away from having a down payment ready. And I'll be DAMNED if I'm going to give my business to a company so eager to screw me over in such a manner.
I've read that credit unions are the way to go for a while now. But I've always been content enough with the service I've received at Citibank to ignore those missives -- until tonight. Over the weekend, I will research NYC-area credit unions, and with any luck I'll have a new account opened next week. Wikipedia has an excellent explanation on what credit unions, which are not-for-profit ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_union#Not-for-profit_status_and_th e_need_for_a_surplus ), are generally better idea than banks. But to summarize: credit unions exist to serve its members, not maximize their profits like commercial banks.
Thanks for jolting me to my senses, Citibank. Or as paraphrase Richard Nixon: "You won't have me to kick around anymore, because, Citibank, this is my last transaction."
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by F L. Posted Sun November 23, 2008 @ 1:39 PM
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I am infuriated by this change!
I have been a happy Citibank customer for 7 years, and have never thought about changing banks until now. I just logged on and found my account in "Overdraft with $30 in overdraft fees. I have structured my finances around using my $4500 automatic check protection since 2001, so now have to completely rethink how I go about managing my finances.
I just spoke to customer service and had them log this complaint and tried to communicate the fact that I understand that times are tough, but trying to soak your customers for every last cent is a sure way to lose them! I am looking into other places to keep my $66,000!
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I've just discovered this new fee this morning.
I'd called tech support twice in the last two weeks concerning changes in the way balances are displayed and CP transfers are made in the online banking app. On both occasions I was told "there's just a bug" and that it would be fixed shortly.
No mention of new fees. Not on the phone. Not in an email. Not in a pop-up when I login. No letter in the mail.
So effectively, it's a retroactive fee, the period of which depends on how long it takes customers to discover this new gem.
I have been a customer since 1995 and opened my account on 42nd and Madison. I've always stuck with them despite cheaper accounts being available because they've always been a low-hassle un-sneaky bank to deal with. I've recommended them to countless others for the same reason.
I AM stubborn enough to open a new account with another account today. Even if they also have overdraft fees.
Businesses need to take better stock of the consequences (and REAL cost) of such decisions.
Jason McElroy
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by Donno Posted Sat November 15, 2008 @ 6:53 PM
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Thinking back over the checking accounts I have had in the past 16 years, there has been an ebb and flow of minimum balance requirements, fees for ATM cards, etc. At one point, I believe it was almost impossible to get free checking unless you kept $300 in the account.
With my bank, I checked about 3 years ago into a feature similar to this one with my own bank. It turns out they had about a $10 fee if I overdrafted and the transfer was done. In a snit, I declined to open the second account. Sure enough this past year I had an overdraft during an illness and there went $33.
So, you are right - they are changing to a system where you pay a smaller overdraft fee than you would have if you had no protection. And it may have been a young whippersnapper who came up with the idea. So you go to another bank, and who knows what happens 15 years down the road.
It must come as no surprise to them that customers such as yourself are complaining. Good luck, they seem to have chosen their course.
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