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THE WEEKEND FROM HELL FOR MY AUNT & UNCLE...

Posted Thu July 22, 2010 12:00 pm, by Terri S. written to Delta Air Lines

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July 22, 2010

Mr. Gerald Grinstein
C E O
DELTA AIR LINES
PO Box 20980
Atlanta, GA 30360-2980

Dear Mr. Grinstein...

I am writing this letter on behalf of my aunt & uncle who encountered the "weekend from hell" on your airline. One of the ironies of this trip is that my aunt is very afraid of flying, but made the trip with my uncle to come to Florida to see my father (my uncle's brother) - who is not in the best of health. My aunt takes medication 2 1/2 hours before she flies but, as you will note, it did her absolutely no good this time because of all the hassles, inconveniences & problems there were.

I have indicated below the timeline of this horrendous weekend of travel that my aunt & uncle were put through & as I stated at the end of this letter, we are insisting that the minimum compensation to them is TWO (2) DELTA ROUNDTRIP VOUCHERS for future travel.

A. FRIDAY - JULY 16TH - FLIGHT #487
1. 3:10pm scheduled departure from LGA, which left on time (give or take).
2. About 50 miles outside of LGA, the pilot makes an announcement that the airplane has to turn back because there is no cabin pressure. The plane arrives back at LGA at about 4pm.
3. Approximately 1/2 hour later, there is another announcement that the problem is being repaired. However, if that does not happen, there will be another plane brought in to make the trip.
4. About 1/2 hour after that, the passengers were told that the problem cannot be fixed, so a new plane is brought in. It is now 5pm.
5. A third announcement is made that the luggage has to be transferred from the 1st plane to the 2nd plane & that boarding should begin at about 5:45pm.
6. At 6pm, yet ANOTHER announcement is made that boarding should begin in about 1/2 - which it did.
7. The airplane finally left the gate at 7:10pm.

NOTE: All during the above "activities", my aunt & uncle had absolutely NOTHING to eat!!
Unfortunately, for whatever reason, the problems of the 1st plane were never explained to the passengers, which is incredible in it of itself!!!

8. FINALLY, at 8:20pm, after sitting on the runway/tarmac for over an hour, the flight took off & arrived at PBI at 10:45pm - ALMOST SIX (6) HOURS LATE...

As another "aside" to all of the above, my aunt & uncle were told by someone in Customer Service at LGA that they should speak with a Delta agent upon their arrival at PBI in order to obtain a food voucher for a restaurant. That is very interesting, considering that when they landed, close to 11 o'clock at night, every food facility was closed!!! What good, then, were the food vouchers??? Hmmmm...


B. SUNDAY - JULY 18th - FLIGHT #1142
1. My sister joined my aunt & uncle on the return trip to LGA, as she spent the weekend here visiting me & my father.
2. The scheduled departure time for this flight was, as you know, supposed to be 6:55pm. At 6pm, though, an announcement was made that there was a mechanical issue with the airplane, which was being investigated.
3. At 6:45pm, although the issue was not resolved, my sister, aunt & uncle were told that they should "stay close" to the gate because there will be further announcements.
4. At 7:15pm, a 2nd announcement was made that the problem has not been resolved. An option was given to the passengers of being put on your 7am flight the next morning, which is what my sister, aunt & uncle chose to do.
5. At 8:45pm, a FINAL announcement was made that this flight was being cancelled altogether,.
6. My sister, aunt & uncle were given hotel vouchers, a measly $6.00 dinner voucher & another $6.00 breakfast voucher for the following morning. Let me ask you these questions - first, what could you possibly expect to get for dinner for $6.00??? ARE YOU KIDDING??? Second, what good was the breakfast voucher, when the hotel restaurant opens at 6am & the passengers had to leave the hotel at 5:30am to get on the shuttle to take them back to the airport?? Hmmmm...


C. MONDAY - JULY 19th - FLIGHT #2458
1. The flight, as you know, is scheduled to leave PBI at 7am & gets off the ground at 7:10am.
2. Unfortunately, about an hour into the trip, an announcement is made that the plane was in a "holding pattern" because of storms in & around the area, but that this should only continue for another 1/2 hour.
3. The "holding pattern" ended up being an hour & 1/2 but, at least this time, the pilot had the good sense to let everyone on the plane know what was going on.
4. Another announcement was made that because the plane had been circling for such a long time, it was running out of fuel & there was not enough to continue in this pattern. If the flight was not going to be released to land at LGA very soon, it would be headed to either Allentown, PA or Baltimore, MD.
5. The flight was finally given the go-ahead green light to land at LGA, which it did at 11:15am.
6. A 2 hour & 20 minute flight ended up taking more than FOUR (4) HOURS!!!

As stated at the beginning of this letter, I am hereby requesting TWO (2) ROUNDTRIP DELTA VOUCHERS FOR FUTURE TRAVEL for my aunt & uncle to compensate (at least a little) for their "weekend of hell" that YOUR airline put them through. Quite frankly, there are too many questions to be asked & answered as to the common sense of letting your passengers know the truth as to what was happening. It was a shambles, to say the least, with miscommunications, false starts & much more that added to the inconvenience & distress that my aunt & uncle were put through.

I will be more than happy to receive the TWO (2) vouchers on behalf of my aunt & uncle, making sure that they receive them very soon after I do, so please forward them to me, at your earliest convenience, to my name & address listed at the top of this letter.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,


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by Lacy Lou Posted Thu July 29, 2010 @ 11:50 AM

seriously???

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by MA Cunningham Posted Tue July 27, 2010 @ 9:41 AM

. . . I don't see what the problem with the voucher was?

They are trying to offset the cost of a meal that they would have had
to buy for themselves anyway, not set them up with food for a week!

And put yourself in Delta's shoes. Would YOU give a major comp to a
third party that wasn't even involved? Me neither!

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by t n. Posted Tue July 27, 2010 @ 1:22 AM

This happens sometimes. I've flown Delta and never had problems. It's
just luck of the draw. As for having no food, don't you think they
could buy food at the airport? It's better having a late flight than
being dead from a 50,000 plus foot fall.

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by RedheadwGlasses Posted Sat July 24, 2010 @ 3:33 AM

I highly doubt that they are going to give you two free vouchers and
trust that you're just going to pass them onto your aunt and uncle.

If they have a legitimate complaint, they should submit it and see
what happens.

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by Richard S. Posted Fri July 23, 2010 @ 11:57 AM

I am going to go out on a limb here and assume the medication your
aunt takes is to help her nerves because of her fear of flying. I am
not sure if the medicine needs to be taken with food.

You mentioned that your aunt and uncle had nothing to eat by 7:10pm.
There was an opportunity between 5 and 5:45pm to get something to eat.
This would have been enough time to grab a quick bite from a fast food
restaurant or something from a kiosk. One of them could have stayed at
the gate area to listen to announcements while the other went to grab
something.

Were there any sacks on board the plane that could have been
purchased?

As for the food vouchers you were given, most vendors at the airport
are open by 6am. I am not sure why the food vouchers could not be used
at the airport on Monday morning before the flight left.

People should expect delays at the airport. I'd rather have a pilot
turn around and be delayed then have an emergency in flight. people
should also carry a small snack or sandwich with them in case of
emergencies like this.




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by Anonymous A. Posted Fri July 23, 2010 @ 8:10 AM

Id rather be inconvenienced by a replacement plane than fly in a plane
that they are unsure of and don't feel safe in. It's the worse feeling
for anyone who has a fear of flying, its better to supress that
feeling by knowing you are in much better plane.

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Totally by batmoody Fri July 23, 2010 @ 3:42 PM


by RowdyRetailer Posted Thu July 22, 2010 @ 11:14 PM

Everyone eventually has issues, that why its best to plan ahead.

Always good to carry some nutritious snacks with you in case of
delays.

Vouchers for fast food is sad, sure it may be cheap to some people,
but its long term effects are not cheap.


Good Day

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"its long term effects are not cheap." by Donno Thu July 22, 2010 @ 11:47 PM


???????? by RowdyRetailer Fri July 23, 2010 @ 12:06 AM


What are the long term health effects? by Donno Sat July 24, 2010 @ 10:42 AM

by fairywithfangs Posted Thu July 22, 2010 @ 11:00 PM

I'm sorry, I have flown quite a bit in my life and I would LOVE for an
airline to have handled the delays as well as delta did in this
situation. It sounds to me like your aunt and uncle were kept up to
date on what was going on, the timelines were actually met and in the
second situation they were taken care of nicely.

I guess maybe I have flown into Newark airport too much, but a 2 hour
flight that takes 4 hours seems like a dream to me. Newark is ALWAYS
backed up with air traffic (nothing the airline can do about it, it is
all air traffic control) and on one flight I spent almost 2 hours
circling, the entire flight was only supposed to take 2 hours.

That third situation had nothing at all to do with delta. THat was
all LGA.

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by olie Posted Thu July 22, 2010 @ 9:30 PM

There was insufficient cabin pressure.

Are meal vouchers good at airport food vendors? While I've
experienced flight delays, I've never had the opportunity to receive
vouchers.

I do know that even at Milwaukee, I can get a McDonald's meal for
under $6.

I'm just wondering--your aunt is "very afraid of flying". Would she
actually use a voucher for another flight, after this experience?

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by batmoody Posted Thu July 22, 2010 @ 8:40 PM

Would you rather they flew with no cabin pressure, mechanical problems
and right through a thunder storm?
Really?

They did what they had to do for safety! It inconvienienced everyone,
not just your family. I'm sure even the emloyees had better things to
do!

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by Lisa H. Posted Thu July 22, 2010 @ 8:36 PM

Wow - that was a BAD weekend. However, I don't think it was Delta's
fault. None of what you list is anything they did on purpose, it was
out of their control and happens. Usually not on every flight, but
it's bad luck.


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by Eclipse Posted Thu July 22, 2010 @ 8:30 PM

The first flight sounds like it was handled well in my opinion. While
a delay is never an optimal situation, it would not be safe to fly
unpressurized. The altitude at which you need oxygen is 10,000 feet.
It appears, based on public record, that this flight reached an
altitude of 11,000, and began to descend. Likely the pilots were
alerted to the issue by the on board computer system and then decided
to return. It sounds like the passengers were given updates as to the
status and then boarded ASAP. It does take time to unload one
aircraft's luggage and move it to another.

Regarding the original return flight, maintenance issues happen. It
sounds reasonable because they did give out vouchers, etc. Also, $6
sounds cheap, but you could get a fast food meal with that. Nothing
gourmet though.

Regarding the new return flight, weather delays do happen. If there is
a thunderstorm, you can NOT fly through it. All arrivals and
departures must wait until there is no more lightning in the vicinity.
Holding patterns are not convenient for travelers, but are necessary
and are controlled by ATC, not Delta.
Would you rather have the aircraft run out of fuel, or make a stop at
another airport? Its very inconvenient, but a must, and something out
of Delta's control.

I think the circumstances were handled very well. While it may have
been a hellacious experience, I do not think they were wronged in any
way, therefore no compensation is due.

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by Donno Posted Thu July 22, 2010 @ 6:38 PM

I'll bet you would. So would I.

First of all, I don't think they would send them to you. They would
send them to the travellers who were inconvenienced.

Secondly, I don't believe they are owed anything. The problem on the
first plane, which you said was never identified, was apparently the
cabin air pressure was lost. Have you ever flown in an unpressurized
cabin? Very uncomfortable, and can cause excrutiating pain. Your
aunt should be grateful they turned around.

$6 buys a fast food meal, and they can't control the problems of
scheduling.

Yes, we had very bad storms at some point early this past week. The
flight didn't go to Allentown or Baltimore - it landed as planned. A
bit late. A lot better then flying into a storm or a plane waiting
while avoiding a storm.

Flying can be a stressful experience, but usually we aren't
compensated for the stress. This sounds like one of those
experiences.

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by NathanG Posted Thu July 22, 2010 @ 5:36 PM

I suppose you would have been happier if Delta had just attempted the
flight in a broken plane?

I dont see anything wrong with what they did. It was a dangerous
situation that they had to correct.

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by Harleycat Posted Thu July 22, 2010 @ 5:21 PM

Sorry but both those delays were for valid reasons and except for the
cheap dinner voucher, the airline stepped up to the plate and did the
right thing.

On the outbound flight the cabin lost pressure. Would your aunt and
uncle prefer to fly on oxygen when the cabin pressure failed
completely? Why did they not eat? LGA has tons of places to eat from
Burger King up to a sit down restaurant. If they were told to stay by
the gate, one could have gone and got a sandwich or something and the
other could have waited by the gate.

On the return flight, the first flight again had mechanical issues.
Unfortunate but unavoidable. They did get hotel vouchers. Yes, they
got cheepo meal vouchers and that's unfortunate and maybe worth a
small refund.

The next flight had weather delays. The airlines do not control the
weather and the pilots don't make the decisions to stay in holding
patterns, air traffic control does.

It seems your aunt and uncle ran into every conceivable delay but none
are worth free round trip tickets.

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Why did they not eat? by Donno Thu July 22, 2010 @ 6:48 PM


I thought the same thing. by olie Thu July 22, 2010 @ 6:52 PM


And the OP.. by Harleycat Thu July 22, 2010 @ 8:26 PM




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