Tricks by Atlas Marketing

i just started a job with out bound telemarking co, we sell
dishnetwork . told to lie about ss# are safe and credit card#
also,'sir' it's just black dots on the mycomputer screen to us, we
don't use computer for thr app. only the phone call is from computer,
name address, ss#/c credit card # on paper,, and this place is hired
or contracted out to sell dishnetwork. $25 persale,thats it, saleman
gets, marketing frim getting $140, boiler room con, and dish just
wants custmers any way they can get them, phx,az

no matter how pushy the salesman was you are still the idiot who let
him in your home, signed the contract, and wrote the check. I am sorry
that your stupid but that is your fault not a pushy salesman.

Damnit, I fuct in ass twice in as many months! I WANT MY MONEY
BEUTCH!

Come by the office and ask for Lance. Leave the attitude at home
though. I don't mess. Two hits ya'know.

Hey Nutsack aka Teebagger,
Perhaps you didn't understand, I was not paid for work that was done
throughout the summe. This matter has nothing to do with any bonus or
anything of the kind. Hopefully that makes the picture a little bit
clearer for you.
As for the name calling, well that should probably stop as well. I'll
send you my email or a number and would be more than willing to talk
about the matter with you or Brother Sleater. I would love it even
more if we could talk about the situation in person, you know one on
one. So scream on down on your double deuces and let me know where you
want to go from here.

Thanks Mate

Listen Playa,

So what if I got paid. You're discounting what I have to say because
I'm not a victim like you? You and Dave should change your names to
Playa Hatas 1 & 2. Not getting a bonus isn't exactly the same as not
getting paid. If you weren't paid for legitimate work you guys could
claim it and Wade would have violated principle. But you know that
isn't the case.

Investors are a different story. They took risks. Nothing in life is
guaranteed except for whiners like you guys crying foul and
slandering
the good name of many people who helped you out. You should really
devote your energy to moving on with life and not trying to milk
everyone else for your own misfortune.

You guys probably drive Hondas and are trying to 'accumulate'. Good
luck with the old paradigms. When you see me screaming by on I-15
with my breezies in a coupe sitting on 22"s you'll know who the real
playaz are.
Reply

Dear Mr. Teebagger,
My guess is that Wade probably paid you the money that you rightfully
earned, hence the change of heart.
As for Wade being an excellent business man, well perhaps he is!!!
Adolf Hitler was a good leader but what else can be said after that.
Calling Wade a good moral person is absolutely out of the question.
How is it possible that he started another scam company, when he has
yet to pay off so many of his workers that he left hanging at Atlas.
Unfortunetly, the responsibility of all the unpaid backend checks and
bounced checks have fallen upon the supposed "mooches".
Brother Sleater what goes around comes around, remember that.

Dave, I was wrong. I want to publically apologize for my previous
post. It was a major violation of principle.

Like you I jumped to a conclusion. When you fall back through the
looking-glass sometimes things get distorted in the consumer state. I
just found out that Atlas is back and stronger than ever--producing
like no other. Sorry you lost your investment, but you should have
exercised greater stewardship over your human life value
(investments). This philosophy behind Atlas is not to be locked away
safe but to be free. You can't be free if you rely on others to
protect and watch out for you. Lesson learned huh?

Wade is an incredible business person. The main reason he had the
hicup was because of the mooches like you that caused a liquidity
crunch. He got rid of all you over-paid leaches and now he's got a
leaner meaner Source VII full or REAL producers that will bury all you
turncoats. I'm glad you were exposed for what you really are.

For your reading pleasure:
http://www.connect-utah.com/article_print.asp?r=2387&iid=57&sid=3&bsc=


Booyah, fricken loser.

Why don't you go to their office today and tell me how Atlas is doing?
They vanished from one day to the next leaving everybody hanging. You
know why? The owners are thieves among friends, unscrupulous people
who used Altlas dish and other companies just to build some trust
among people to get them to invest their money in "Atlas Capital"
where investors were promised very high returns, like 24 or 36 % a
year. Believe it or not the word is out that once they pilled up 18
millions they stopped paying everybody, closed all their businesses
and disappear. Now nobody can get a hold of them, they perpetrated
what consumer affairs calls an "Affinity Scam" this is when fraudsters
people (Just like, Wyde Sleater, Jeff Mendez and their friends) preyed
on people who trust each other, particularly members of religious,
social, or cultural groups, They use the trust to steal money.

These crooks used investor funds to pay for lavish personal expenses,
like cruises, luxury vehicles, and banquets. They sustained by using
the same investor's monies to pay the monthly interest back to them.
Hell, if you "invest" $200K he pays you $4000 a month on time for a
while so you can be happy and bring your friends too, then he
disappears. I know of people who invested hundreds of thousands of
dollars, even millions, know they are not getting their monthly
interest payments and can't get a hold of these thieves who posed as
friends, smart trustworthy individuals buy in reality are nothing more
than vice, immoral, coward mother fuckers.
Dave

Wade "Wanker" Sleater. What a scammer. Wade I hope you go to jail.

Does anybody know who signs the checks at Altas? They are failing and
we are one of MANY employees whose checks bounced when they paid us.
(not a salesman don't hate) We worked for them for 4 months and agree
with the other posts referring to them being un-ethical. According to
Utah State Law, whomever signs their name to the paycheck is
personally liable for the funds even if the company cannot pay. Also,
for all you who are having similar trouble (apparently there are many
of us who worked and didn't get paid) Copy and Paste this link:
http://laborcommission.utah.gov/Utah_Antidiscrimination___Labo/Employm
ent_Standards/Payment_of_Wages/Wage%20Claim%20Form%200207.pdf

Fill out the form, it is from Utah.gov Labor Comissions Bureau that
makes sure employees get paid by LAME ASS employers who can't pay
their people...and it's free and guaranteed by Utah State Government
that the Employer cannot take any retaliation against you.

That sucks that Atlas is "tanking," not really. However, they have yet
to pay their employees and many of their employees paychecks that were
previously distributed have bounced, leaving many in the hole.
Although it may be true that Dish Network has not paid the company,
then why did they spend so much money on a huge banquet that was held
about two weeks ago, and why is the infamous Atlas Cruise still on for
the first week of November.
I know for sure that some of the regional Managers were nicely
compensated for their supposed hard work they performed throughout the
year.
Atlas is and its people are selfish dishonset scammers, which is
especially is hard to say because most of its employees adhere to a
religion that is well known for its high code of conduct, how sad.
Here is a suggestion sell an Aston Martin or two, what about that
Mercedes E Class, or even Lexus.

Go to atlaschoice.com, to see just how badly they are doing

i think you will be happy to know that atlas is tanking. and fast!!!
dish network hasn't paid them for weeks, and they are firing (in the
slimiest way possible) everyone from the bottom up. the poor VP's are
having to sell their aston martin's and their fifth cars just to get
by. okay, that doesn't really hurt them all that much-but you have to
hope it hurts their friggin egos, S.O.B.'S.....adam....is your last
name Nelson? cause if so, then YOU ARE THE S.O.B.!!!

Sadly, we went through this same exact thing but it went further and
is not over. The installer came and a month later our internet cable
went out with Comcast. The Comcast Technician came over and found out
that this Atlas installer tapped into Comcast cable and we had no
service with Dish left after it was corrected. Then to make this long
story worse, we were told by Atlas it was Comcast's fault. NOT. They
wanted to make us pay more money to reinstall then we had to figure
out who got the equipment. We were charged $340.00 to cancel. Then
later after a terrible month of personal tragedies in our lives this
person from Atlas in Utah calls to tell me she took out $699.97 out of
our checking account and an additional $20.00 for them to pick up the
package by UPS.I pleaded with her not to do this and she didn't care.
I told her we needed the money to pay the landlord and this money
wasn't ours to spend. But she didn't care.
So....then they get the package of equipment and I was told that
they'd return out money at that time. But, they wouldn't answer my
calls back to me on a Thursday then on a Tuesday I finally got a hold
of a person. They told us we didn't sent the LBN back now and that
they are keeping $99.99 for this LBN. So now my husband has to go to
UPS and mail the LBN and we hope we get our money back. Now here we
are waiting for the money and our landlord is getting upset waiting
for the rent payment. It's been a nightmare!
Use this experience to do what you need to do for yourself.
Patricia

Well we weren't tricked into getting the Dish Network but the service
since has been less than desirable. And there is nothing to be done
about it but pay your monthly fees and hope that you might get to
watch your local news each evening. They do absolutely nothing about
the horrible customer service. Any suggestions???

Kimberly F.

Before signing be sure to know exactly what it is that you are signing
up for. Most of the time salesman, especially from Atlas, will not
tell you the exact details of the contract, such as the cancellation
fee of $530 or the $350 peanlty fee for choosing to downgrade during
the 18 month contract. Other factors such as an additional $5 phone
bypass won't be mentioned either, if your reciever is not connected to
a working phone line. Although these things are "supposedly" supposed
to be mentioned by the rep, they are usually done in a way that no one
can really understand.

Finally if the installers finally decide to come out during their
scheduled block of time, the job they do is usually close to
herrandous. There is usually loose wires running evrywhere, drilled
holes taht have not been properly plugged, and no grounding of the
dish.

All these salesman and technicians care about are the numbers. Because
their pay scale is based ona per job basis, the more they do, the more
they get.

The suggestion is that if you really do want Dish Network, either go
through the company itself or go through another company, not a
subcontractor like Atlas whose people aren't always honest and all
they care about are the numbers.

You are one stupid S.O.B. No one from Atlas Marketing pressures
anyone into doing anything. You are an individual who has free agency
and you saw the value and went for it. If you are too stupid to
really think things through then you deserve to get "raped." However
I know Atlas Marketing and Dish Network because I have worked for
them. You sir are an ignorant fool. You need to deal with the
choices you made and realize that you are with a good company who is
ranked as an inc. 500 company (Atlas Marketing), and have a television
provider who has been ranked #1 in customer satisfaction by JD Power
and Associates. If you think for one second that either of these
companies have gotten to where they are currently by ripping people
off then sir you are an ignoramous. Please don't bear any children
because this world has enough stupid people like you in it. Have a
good day you ignorant fool.

Adam

and one more thing. atlas marketing is a business, and just like any
other business, its contract is indeed designed to protect the company
from losses and from people like you, who make bad decisions and then
want to be let out the bad decision without repurcussion. business
chick mentioned that atlas' policy is to not help customers and, as
someone who has also worked for atlas, i know that to be completely
untrue. the problem lies in the fact that there are just as many
dishonest and slimy customers in the world as there are salesman. as a
business, decisions and policies must be clear. they must be black and
white. that is how businesses stay businesses instead of charities.

i think this is funny....first of all, YOU felt pressured. since when
do you let kids in their twenties boss you around? whose fault is it
that YOU can't politely say "no"?
second, that $49.99 activation fee is credited back on your first
bill, that yes does cover two months-two months of service that you
will receive. you aren't just paying that money for nothing.
third, no matter who you purchase dish network through (or any service
that offers free equipment and installation) you are going to be
required to give your ss#. this is because you are leasing expensive
equipement that doesn't belong to you and they want to make sure you
are the type of person with bad credit who will run off with the
equipement or who will not pay your bills.
sir, to be quite frank, the situation you are in is one of your own
making: you were not strong enough to say "no". you assumed that the
dish pricing would be better than your previous providers (how could
you think that the sales rep would know exactly what you were
paying?). You are the one to blame here.
How's that campaign going?

Samething happened to me. I was told I would get local channels in
HD, but did not and was charged 350.00 when I canceled. I am working
on suing this company! Anyone who has been tricked by these people,
reply to this. We need to stop these people!

We let ourselves get talked into signing up by a very nice young man.
But when the installer didn't show up when promised, we sat down and
read the whole contract and recognized the typical bait & switch deal.
We immediately sent a certified letter to Atlas cancelling the
service.And I emailed my credit card company to disallow any charges
from Atlas or Dish Network.

I blame myself - I am old enough to know better than to buy from a
door to door salesman.

T. Hamilton, Eagle, ID

I agree with the person who commented that you didn't have to accept
the saleman's offer; however I used to work in this company's office
and I quit after I realized that its contracts are deceptive and
protect only the company. They repeatedly ignore customer concerns
and the salesman frequently exaggerate benefits and "forget" to
mention the cancellation fees that are immediately applicable.
Because of company policy, I am absolutely sure that you will get
nothing from this company, but I encourage you to warn others in your
area against their sales campaignes..

I have a few problems here. Sure, the practice of sending uninvited
sales reps out to sell things is annoying, but there was nothing
stopping you from politely but firmly saying "no thanks," and
shutting your door. The fact that you chose to give out your social
security number and sign a contract is no one's fault but your own.

My big problem with this letter is your statement that you felt
"raped," by this experience. Have you ever known a rape victim? I
do, and I can tell you that the aftermath of a rape is a much
different exerience from realizing you are trapped in a satellite tv
contract. I feel that using that term was completelly inappropriate,
and if I had had any sympathy for your problem in the first place I
would have lost it there.

As far as your demand to get out of a contract you signed, without
paying anything at all, that is patently ridiculous. No one "tricked
you," you just made a bad decision, and now you will have to live with
the consequences of it. *You* signed the contract, and unless someone
physically held a gun to your head, *You* will have to live with it.