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2002 Ford Explorer
Posted Mon February 27, 2006 8:05 pm, by David S. written to Ford Motor Company
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I have been driving Ford brand vehicles for some time now.I purchased a truck in 89 and have been driving Fords since. When our 1993 Explorer hit a little over 100,000 miles we decided it was time to trade in for a newer one.We found a 2002 with a lttle less the 8000 miles on it(still new) It is a beautiful vehicle. Shortly after we brought it home the window motors stoped working.They were all replaced under the factory warranty. A few weeks after we picked it up from the repaires we noticed a banging in the door and a letter also came for a recall for the back liftgate.I called and spoke to the service manager at our local Ford dealership(Autoway Ford St Petersburg,Florida) This is where we had purchased the Explorer. He said to bring it in and they would take care of the banging in the door and the recall.Upon bringing it in I also showed the service manager two other items of concern.The back liftgate panel was cracking and the 4 panels at each door were showing some kind of delamination. He said he would check it out.Upon picking the vehicle up I looked over the invoice.It showed the recall and the banging in the door(a tool left behind.It also showed an estimate for $1000.00 to replace the 5 panels I also noticed that they poked something from the inside of the door panel outward making a dent in the door.(obviosely done when the door panel was off to remove the tool). I called him and spoke to him the morning he said the problems were not caused by anything I did but due to the vehicle being out of warrenty now for a few weeks there was nothing they could do. I then wrote a letter to Ford Motor Company Customer Relations Center. They sent a letter back saying "At this time there is nothing they can do". WOW great customer service! About a week or two after that letter I received an invitation from Autoway Ford to come in and meet the new General Manager and take a look at the new Explorers.I thought that this would be a good time to let him know about my past experience and to let him know I do not care to own any Ford products in the future. I did receive a letter back from him stating to e-mail a letter explaining all my concerns to him and he would see what he can do...It has now been several months and still no responce.I guess he wont be doing anything either. What a shame I have owned 3 Ford Trucks and 2 Ford sport utility vehicles in the past.I will definetally be rethinking my loyalty to Ford Brands in the future!
I think Ford should: Repair the dent in the door,replace the cracked liftgate panel,and replace the 4 other door panels that are delaminating. This vehicle only has 32,000 miles and looks like it has 150,000.
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by Tyson K. Posted Tue June 7, 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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All understandable stories. I had a brand new Ford Explorer (which I still have) for 2 hours, when I discovered the AC was not working. After 6 months and 20 trips back to the dealer (and the opportunity to try other lender cars), I finally began motions with the Lemon Law. With the threat of this, the dealership finally agreed to replace the car.
On 2002 Explorer #2, I replaced the transmission at 55K Miles. At 60K miles, the engine started making noise. I was told that it was a tensioner in the engine... pretty much requiring a complete engine overhaul. So I'm living with it, and it's very loud now at 93K miles.
And the reason I'm on this website, my rear window failed (actually no connection to the motor) last week, driving in the rain. Trying to figure out if I can repaire it... else, I expect another $500 to the Fix-Or-Repair-Daily dealership.
My 1993 Jeep Cherokee has 1/4 Million miles on it, and I've only replaced a coil and water pump. AND all the windows work great! My next car will NOT be a Ford.
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by RHONDA P. Posted Tue April 19, 2011 @ 10:06 PM
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hEY ALL, SAME HAS HAPPENED TO ME AND i AM FED UP AND THINK WE SHOULD CALL OUR LOCAL NEWS...MAYBE THEN fORD WILL STEP UP. i AM PERSONALLY DRIVING AROUND AND COLLECTING NUMEROUS PICS OF FORDS WITH THIS SAME CRACK...WE CAN'T LET THEM WIN. MSJUNE25@AOL.COM
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by Just curious Posted Sat July 3, 2010 @ 10:04 PM
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It's amazng that you cannot have an accident or even bump the back hatch t get cracks in the body. These cracks started to develop in the body down from the base of the back window vertically down about 4 inches in three separate places.. At first I was just annoyed when the ford dealer stated it was cosmetic... but now it causes the door ajar light to stay on. the battery drains and leaves me stranded.... When I have been driving around I have seen this same thing in 2002 models from Massachusetts, VA, NJ, MD, PA, FL, SC .. this has to be something stuctural not merely coincedence.
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by R B. Posted Tue January 5, 2010 @ 4:54 PM
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Dear David S.
I read your detailed description of the Ford body DEFECTS. My 2005 Explorer suddenly developed a crack on the back liftgate right where the emblem is in early December 2009. I took it to the Ford dealership where it was purchased and the response I got was not satisfactory. This defect is dangerous. There is now stress on the rear window, wiper, etc. I found numerous postings on the internet on my own about this exact same situation.The Ford dealership employee was acting like it was not something he was aware of. He also "offered" to split the difference of repair cost with me. I feel this should be a recall situation. I have never had a vehicle that suddenly developed cracks in the auto body! This makes me wonder how many people have the same or similiar problem and have not connected with others or posted their concerns. Lets get the word out.
Raili @ Vaalea7@hotmail.com
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by Intelligent Consumer Posted Fri November 2, 2007 @ 8:00 AM
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I'm experiencing the same problem with the lift gate panel. I have a vertical crack to the left of the FORD emblem and it extends the width of the lift gate panel. It was also just my luck that my vehicle warranty had expired. I'm not sure how the crack occurred but I do know that I've been experiencing problems closing/securing the glass lift gate for several months. It requires several attempts to close the lift gate for it to catch the latch. I informed the Ford dealership of the problem and they referred me to a local body shop to make the $700+ repairs. I concur...Ford should step up and accept this body style/mechanical flaw in their product. It's too much of a coincidence that several owners are experiencing the same problem and potentially are in danger of losing the lift gate's glass while driving. This has the potential to cause serious harm to someone. If Ford would rather wait until this occurs instead of being pro-active, so be it. I won't hesitate be a witness in court. My next move will be to write to the company, the Better Business Bureau, and then the local TV and radio stations. I suggest everyone else do the same.
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by Katie Darby Posted Wed December 27, 2006 @ 9:46 AM
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My husband and I purchased our 2002 Explorer in 2004 from a Ford dealership, we also had the liftgate crack and the dealership tld us Ford would only pay half of the $450 it would cost to repair. While the truck was still under warranty we also had to have the window motors replaced. I am curious to know if anyone else has had rear differential or bearing problems. Our explorer started with a noise that would come from the rear of the truck while driving, my father said it sounded like a bearing. We took the car into the mechanic and we have to have the entire rear differential replaced to the tune of $3,000. Anyone else have any humming or whirring noise coming from the rear of their truck? My brother in law has a 2002 Explorer and have to have a hub bearing in the rear of his truck replaced. If anyone else hears this noise I advise you have it checked right away before you have to replace the entire rear differential as well. I am very disappointed in this vehicle and my husband and I as well as his family after owning over half a dozen Ford vehicles will not be purchasing anymore.
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by Angela Meredith Posted Mon December 4, 2006 @ 5:41 PM
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Same damage. Same response from Ford. I'm very disappointed with both Ford and NHTSA. Below is part of the letter I sent to Ford and NHTSA
I own a 2002 Ford Explorer XLS with 51,300 miles. On 11/23/06 two long cracks developed in my lift gate panel just to the right of the Ford emblem. One crack extends the full length of the panel. The other extends from the top of the panel and extends to the top of the Ford emblem. See attached photo.
These cracks developed completely without any damage or force being applied to the panel. The truck was parked in the carport. I researched my damage and found others with the same model Explorer with the same damage in the same location. Several of them advised that Ford would not acknowledge or repair the damage.
The location of the damage poses a real danger if the panel completely separates. If separation occurs the glass can possibly shatter causing death or injury. I am convinced the damage is caused by a structural defect in the panel which is in no way my responsibility to repair.
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My 2002 Ford EXplorer has cracked rear liftgate as well. By research online this has been reported many times to the NHTSA, and 1 consumer complaint website has at least 27 complaints of the same for 2002 Ford Explorers. Ever since the recall was performed to repair the rear liftgate, the force required to close the hatch was more which I believe is the reason for the stress cracks in the rear panel. Ford assumes NO RESPONSIBILITY for this issue which costs approx $450. to repair as the panel has to be replaced and then painted to match the vehicle. Also my Explorer paint between the windows (black part) is peeling and fading, and my vehicle has been garage kept since it was brand new!! FORD has lost my loyalty, but I will not rest until I make sure they know how I feel about their inablility to stand behind their products. If enough consumers report and complain they will eventually do something about it. My next step is to the local news channel and every consumer website I can find!
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by Michael Zazzera Posted Mon July 10, 2006 @ 12:54 PM
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We also had the recall item completed and at the time had no visible signs of a crack. About 4 months ago we developed the same type of crack right down the middle of the liftgate. Of course it goes right through the "Ford" emblem. What can we do? I think that this issue has to do with the structural integrity of that gate and putting pressure on that piece of you close the gate from the side and not in the middle or using the "handle".
Here is my e-mail and I would love to talk to anyone that can help me and others get Ford to take responsability and fix this. I also got the run around from the dealer that I could go to a body shop and cost about $500-1000 to fix.
Thanks,
Michael Z.
mzazzera@altera.com
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by Grayling Barnes Posted Sat April 1, 2006 @ 11:52 PM
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I had the exact same problem with the liftgate. One crack begins at the bottom right of the liftgate window and goes all the way to the bottom of the liftgate a second crack is on the bottom left of the window and is halfway to the bottom of the liftgate. I'm wondering what happens when it gets to the bottom. When I took the vehicle in for the liftgate strut reolacement recall. The Ford bodyshop folks said the cracks were a common problem, but when they queried the FMC headquarters they were told Ford would not repair it. On Monday I'm going to take it to dealership where I bought it and ask the manager if he stands behind the vehicles he sells. Either way my next vehicle will have a foreign name on it. If you want this American to buy American then produce a quality product and stand behind it.
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by Emiliana Simon-Thomas Posted Mon March 13, 2006 @ 5:33 PM
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Hi -
My husband and I bought a 2002 Explorer and have some of the same problems that you describe. We too took our Explorer in for the hinge recall replacement and at the time showed them a crack in the liftgate panel on the back door - which they claimed was a paint blemish and referred us to a bodyshop for fixing (despite the fact that it was still under warantee at the time). At our most recent tuneup (35,000 miles) we asked again about the cracked panel and they said it would cost upwards of $600.00 to replace. Now, of course, its out of warantee. And now its even worse: when we drove our Explorer up to the snow this weekend the formerly small crack in the liftgate panel has turned into a major system of about 4 cracks - something about the snowy environment. I too think that this is a defective part and that FORD should replace it. I will NEVER consider buying a FORD again, and am entirely depressed to hear that they were so unreceptive to your correspondence about your problems with the car.
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