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Are You Willing to Lose a Customer, Hewlett-Packard?
Posted Thu October 16, 2008 12:00 pm, by Kathy W. written to Hewlett-Packard Company
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On Friday 10/10/08 I received notification that my HP CTO notebook was shipping to Colorado from China. Because I was going to be out of town, I immediately phoned FedX to request a delayed delivery. The FedX agent was unable to assist me and asked that I call back on Monday.
I did phone FedX back on Monday AM again requesting delayed delivery until 10/16/08 and the agent assured me she would get a message to the appropriate station and that delivery would occur on 10/16/08. When I arrived home the night of 10/15, I had a message on my service telling me that I would have to come to the FedX station to pick up my package since they had attempted 3 deliveries. This is not what the FedX agent told me by phone on 10/13. Long story short, I ended up having to drive 1 hour roundtrip and pay toll road expenses to pick up my HP laptop at FedX today.
Because I was so dissatisfied with FedX, the station manager of the Englewood CO facility, (800-463-3339) told me that he personally would make sure HP received a full, no charge credit for the shipping costs of this package, and that I in turn should contact HP for a refund/credit. He also informed me that if I shipped the package back to the point of origina in China in the original box by the same method, the shipping costs would be $225.00. I then phoned HP home office sales and spoke with an agent who could barely speak English and the best she could do is offer me a $50.00 credit (Ref. M104751883). I then phoned HP Executive Customer Relations and spoke with a very rude agent of who was absolutely no help and told me that all she could do is forward the information to someone else for resolution.
Due to the amount of time, energy and frustration I have spent getting this package, I feel it is only fair that I receive at least a $100.00 credit from my original purchase price. After all, my time is valuable, and this has taken up most of my day today trying to get this issue resolved. This is my 3rd HP computer, but if I do not get resolution to my satisfaction, this unit will be going back and I will purchase a Dell product. Consumers do have a choice, but if HP doesn't care about me or my time, they will have to do without my money and will have just lost a customer.
I believe I should receive at a minimum, a $100.00 credit for my time and troubles, including phone calls, gas, toll road expenses and mileage as a reimbursement. After all, HP will be receiving a FULL credit back from Federal Express for shipping on my order, so HP in turn, should do their best to make me a satisfied customer.
You have a choice, and if your choice is not to respect my time and hard earned dollar in support of the purchase of your products, I will be more than happy to become a Dell customer. The ball is in HP's court...
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HP did nothing wrong here. You never specified a delayed delivery date with them so how is this their fault?
File a complaint with Fed-X if you think you have basis for one.
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by Veovis W. Posted Sat October 18, 2008 @ 1:04 AM
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Wow I can't even believe that you have the nerve to even file this complaint. First off I would just like to say that HP makes a fantastic product. So far in my family we have had 5 HP/Compaq laptops and never a single issue with any of them. And second off, you weren't actually charged for shipping on the order at all so there is no cost out of your pocket for the shipping so actually HP entitles you to nothing for it and especially since that they are not the ones that have made the mistake. Second off, that 225 that would cost to ship it back is for YOU. HP since they have a deal with FedEx and ship so many are probably paying less then 100$ to ship state side. Your complaint should actually be issued to FedEx and not HP. I would have considered re-writing your complaint to them. If I were you I would have been happy that they offered you $50 and accepted that in a heart beat. Now someone is being a little greedy here. After all HP is not the one that made you drive to pick up the computer no are they? I am missing to see how that all of this was HP's fault and why that you are entiled for a shipping credit when in the begining you didn't even pay shipping to start with.
And yes that is one nice thing is that consumers do have a choice. If you would like to return the unit because of this that is entirely up to you and if I am not entirly mistaken there is actually a US address for returns and don't need to go to china. But you would get your full refund and not have to pay for shipping (like you didn't pay for shipping when it was delivered to you) and can go buy what ever computer you would like. As a mater a fact I would like to see you return it and go buy a Dell and we will see how many times that you have to call them just to get one thing fixed on it. HAVE FUN!
Fact of the matter is HP is not the one that made the mistake but FedEx and you didn't even pay them for shipping and hence they owe you nothing dispite getting refunded from FedEx since there was no shipping charge billed to you. Go be a Dell customer and have to call 5 times and over 2 hours hold each time to get an issue resolved at all. Take the $50 they offer and be happy they are compensating you for some of your time and troubles since they have no direct obligation to do even that. Enjoy you new HP laptop!
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by MA Cunningham Posted Fri October 17, 2008 @ 11:59 AM
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Regardless of WHO paid the shipping, this was COMPLETELY Fed Ex's fault - not HP's.
I can't believe they would be so dumb to refund the shipping back to the company when it was clearly you who were inconvenienced.
If I had to guess, I would be willing to bet that the "refund" will get buried in paperwork between HP and Fed Ex and will never occur anyway. Which means if HP would have given you $100 or $200, they would have been out that money for something that was not their fault.
Basically, the Fed Ex manager sent you on a wild goose chase after restitution that they should have provided directly to you. I think you ought to send a similar letter to Fed Ex and demand that THEY follow up with HP to get your money. Again, it was THEIR screw up.
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How much did you pay HP for shipping? I bet it was not $225 or $100. If anything , you are due a refund of your shipping costs.
I don't know why you would expect HP to pay for your phone calls, gas, tolls and mileage since it was not even their fault you had to drive to get the laptop. That is something that is between you (you order a computer right before leaving town) and Fed Ex (who said they would delay shipment). Not HP's fault at all.
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by BlueGirl Posted Fri October 17, 2008 @ 11:01 AM
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I am amazed HP offered you anything considering it wasn't there fault to begin with. You should have just taken the $50.00. It sounds like you knew ahead of time that you would be leaving town, so why would you order the computer at that time anyway?
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by KJCat Posted Thu October 16, 2008 @ 9:48 PM
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You never say how much you actually paid for shipping. You said the FedEx person told you that it would cost YOU $225 to ship the computer back, but large corporations often have agreements with shipping companies that provide for lower shipping costs because of the sheer number of packages shipped. If you didn't pay $225 in shipping in the first place, then you are not entitled to that amount. At the very most, you should receive the amount you actually paid for shipping, but since it wasn't HP's fault in the first place, you might want to just take the $50 they offered.
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by Cor H. Posted Thu October 16, 2008 @ 8:48 PM
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"Because I was so dissatisfied with FedX, the station manager of the Englewood CO facility, (800-463-3339) told me that he personally would make sure HP received a full, no charge credit for the shipping costs of this package, and that I in turn should contact HP for a refund/credit."
This seems like an awfully convoluted way to compensate the OP for the problems they caused to say nothing of unfairly involving Hewlitt-Packard which had nothing to do with it.
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by Donno Posted Thu October 16, 2008 @ 8:02 PM
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Dell's customer service is a broken catastrophe, and their product quality is substandard. They install bloatware on their computers, the finish wears off prematurely. The only positive thing I can say is the computer hasn't died.
They made you a respectable offer - why not take it? They aren't going to value your time the same way you do, and they aren't going to value one customer more than another. 1 hour roundtrip is probably a couple gallons of gas, let's say $10.
You should research carefully whatever company you decide to do business with. I think you will decide not to use Dell if you Google "Dell problems" or something similar. It took me 13 hours phone time to get a $75 rebate!
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by WantToPlayAGame? Fri October 17, 2008 @ 5:11 PM
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by Steve-OH Posted Thu October 16, 2008 @ 7:12 PM
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of the letters on here about them. I doubt you'll see them any more customer friendly than HP. I agree that you should get the credit. HP got one, it's not fair that they get to keep it.
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