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Supervisor's treatment of my wife and me
Posted Sun March 23, 2008 12:00 pm, by Robert W. written to HSBC Bank USA
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Today, March 23, 2008, I telephoned your customer service department. There, I discussed my wife's GM credit card account The lady I spoke with seemed to understand, attempted to offer a "better rate" and to seek to get the $39.00 late charge eliminated. She suggested that I speak with a supervisor because of my disappointment and frustration with the increase from 4.99% to 18.9%. Even though I received no statement from you in December, 2007, and even though I called you 1/08/08, you refused to send my wife a duplicate statement. Today, the supervisor was most curt with me. He did not offer a "better rate" as the rep has just suggested minutes before, the elimination of the $39.00 late fee, he said, might be a consideration. However, he stated that "Federal Law" prohibited you from mailing my wife a duplicate statement to her existing address since I had requested it. I asked why, for the past years, you accepted my payment on her account but would not honor my request for a duplicate statement be sent to HER. I think he misquoted "Federal Law."
I found him to not at all be helpful or sympathetic to me, as a long time GM customer.And, he failed to offer any compromise solution. He suggested I write to General Motors with my case. I am doing that.
I feel that good, prompt paying customers with a fifty year unblemished credit history deserve a little more understanding from your supervisors. All he did was to quote to me that "rules are rules." I think there is some fault on both sides in this case. Some consideration might have been offered. Or, does GM have so much business that they can afford to throw me out? Perhaps, as a GM stockholder, I now see a reason GM is losing the American market--they are not losing this share, they are blowing it out! Perhaps GM will be interested in hearing how you treated this 50 year GM customer, as he suggested.
I have mailed payment in full for my account today. Please remove me from the GM Credit Card mailing list where you continue to send us credit checks. Please remove me from the GMAC mailing list where I regularly receive "cards" for my preciously paid up accounts and leases.
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by mstendardo Posted Tue March 25, 2008 @ 11:11 AM
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Then why the late fee???
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by SusanB Posted Mon March 24, 2008 @ 5:01 PM
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If your wife has a GM credit card in her name only and has issues to discuss, then it is she who should make the phone call - - not you - - and the fact that you are a GM stockholder and own a GM car has nothing to do with it. Furthermore, statements are issued as a courtesy and it is your (or your wife's) responsibility to know what needs to be paid every month. I would suggest if you are going to handle your wife's finances that you make sure that all of your accounts are joint between the two of you so you don't have these issues in the future.
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who calls?
by joelunchbox Wed March 26, 2008 @ 12:03 PM
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They are only protecting her account by not sending a duplicate statement. It doesnt matter how long you have paid these bills, they cant know if you are getting divorced or trying to access private information. Sounds silly to someone who has been married and handling the money for so many years but there is too much fraud out there and they can't take the chance.
While I'm sure you may not be one of them, there are many men who handle the credit cards in the family who use their wife's name to try to extend their own credit line. They are only protecting her and they do the same for your own account so you have to try to see it in a different way.
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by Keith C. Posted Mon March 24, 2008 @ 4:23 AM
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As usual, the PFB regulars found something to latch onto, to berate an OP. He has "no legal right" they say, to attend to his wife's finances (which are more than likely, JOINT finances). For that reason, he's not entitled to be excused from the obscenely high "penalty" interest rate. There's only one problem with that logic. They were willing to drop the $39 late fee. If the crux of the issue here is that it's the husband, not the wife, attending to this issue--then how should he even get the late fee waived?
Anyone with BUSINESS SENSE (I know that's a contradiction of terms these days) should look at the context. If there is ONE late payment from a customer with an otherwise excellent history, it's in their best interest to let it let slide and not lose their business.
Businesses get away with such egregious practices because they CAN, and as long as the lemmings will not only accept but DEFEND such abusive behavior, it will continue.
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Because
by calm Mon March 24, 2008 @ 2:41 PM
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Actually
by MA Cunningham Mon March 24, 2008 @ 5:07 PM
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Huh
by Keith C. Mon March 24, 2008 @ 1:53 PM
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by Knuckles Posted Sun March 23, 2008 @ 9:39 PM
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you'll get bitten.
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That's it?
by Knuckles Tue March 25, 2008 @ 1:50 AM
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by MA Cunningham Posted Sun March 23, 2008 @ 8:54 PM
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You need to let your wife do her own foot work. If she is responsible enough to have a credit card, she should be responsible enough to handle her own affairs. If you were my husband, I'd be pretty ticked off with you right now for meddling in my business and antagonizing my creditors!
"Todd" is right that he is not permitted to do ANYTHING you ask regarding this account unless your wife has expressly given them permission to deal with you (and even then they are limited in what they can do for you - it's HER account.) He doesn't need to be helpful or sympathetic to you in this instance and I find it interesting that just because they only considered dropping the late charge, you state they offered no compromise.
They actually did. They are compromising on charging your wife a fee for missing a payment that you ADMIT she missed (whether she had a statement or not, everything can be done online - there's no excuse). Just because they didn't capitulate on the interest rate, doesn't mean they didn't compromise - they just didn't do what YOU wanted them to.
And as far as the, "prompt paying customers with a fifty year unblemished credit history." Are we talking about you or your wife here? If it's you, it's a moot point. It's not your card, not your credit and NOT YOUR BUSINESS. If it's her, she needs to handle her affairs herself. Clearly her record isn't perfect or she wouldn't have missed her Dec. payment!
And just FYI, GM licensed their brand out to HSBC - the card is TOTALLY theirs and GM will not care one iota about you being upset over having your interest rate raised over a missed payment.
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Why are you referring to GM in a letter to what appears to be a mortgage lender? Isn't HSBC a mortgage lender? You sent an almost identical letter to GM, so I'm a bit confused about this.
At any rate, Todd did NOT misquote federal law. You have no legal standing to be calling on her behalf, unless you have some sort of legal guardianship over her due to her being incapacitated, out of the country, etc.
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HSBC
by MA Cunningham Sun March 23, 2008 @ 8:38 PM
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YIPES!
by MA Cunningham Sun March 23, 2008 @ 8:58 PM
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HSBC
by smokinaces Mon March 24, 2008 @ 9:18 AM
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