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Horrible service/ridiculous policy
Posted Mon March 6, 2006 12:39 pm, by Rebecca N. written to Target
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My daughter recently received a pair of shorts and a shirt from Target for her birthday that were too big. We loved them, but wanted to exchange them for a smaller size. We were not given a gift receipt, but they were the Circo brand, so I knew they came from Target. I told the girl at the service counter I wanted to exchange them, but didn't have a receipt since they had been a gift. She asked for my drivers license, and proceeded to work on the return. I told her again that I did not want a refund, but to exchange them for the correct size. She issued me a gift card for the amount of the refund. That would have been fine, but as I am walking away, she tells me that I can not return anything to Target without a gift receipt for an entire year now! This is unbelievable! I do not make a habit of returning things as a scam. In addition, I was not trying to return this, only to exchange it!!! Makes me not want to shop there since their service is horrible.
I would like an apology, as well as a coupon / gift card. They treat customers like dirt.
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by Ree Posted Fri April 28, 2006 @ 4:33 AM
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There is no law anywhere that I know of, saying that a store is obligated to do any type of return, with or without a receipt, unless the item is defective.
Yes, it's a nice, customer-friendly policy to allow no hassle returns, but obviously, stores have lost a great deal of money on returns or they would not have implemented these policies.
Why would a store shoot itself in the foot just to piss off a customer by being arbitrary about a return?
I understand that you only wanted to do an exchange, but I am pretty sure, for inventory tracking, the returned item would still have to be put through the computer as a return, with the exchanged item billed out.
Regardless of whether she gave you a new outfit or a gift card, it still shows as a return without a receipt.
Without a receipt, you have no way of knowing at which store the original outfit was purchased, or whether the item was on sale. If the original Target store sold that item at a discount, but you return it to a different store getting an exchange at full price, how is that fair to the company? There is also a chance that item ends up possibly sitting in their inventory for a while, or there is also the possibility that the item may never sell again, or end up being marked down.
To me, that's a potential loss to the company.
Sure, it's only one small child's outfit in a billion dollar marketplace, but if one multiplies that, the potential for loss does add up.
The average return rate on clothing is 19.4 percent, and fraudulent returns account for about 9 percent of all returns.
When you apply that percentage, a company that does a billion dollars in business has the potential to lose $17.5 million anually.
Stores are actually in the business of making money, not giving it away.
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by mamawild Posted Sun April 2, 2006 @ 12:45 PM
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I feel for you, the same thing happend to me. I had a return from one person, but three items. only two of the items were allowed to be returned. However, you are not entitled to a gift card. you are, however, entitled to return your item. we all just human. people fail to gift gift slips and people lose receipts. furthermore, it is RUDE to ask someone for the receipt for a gift. WALMART and KMART and TOYSRUS will all take itmes that could have come from their store back without a receipt. URGE all your friends and family to shop at those stores for your child, as I will. Moreover, I urge you to send a letter of complaint (without asking for a gift card) to the CEO of target Stores, Bob Ulrich, Target Stores, Target Executive Offices, Mail Stop TFS, IA-X, PO BOX 9350, Minneapolis, MN55440.
I URGE ANYONE WITH A SIMILAR PROBLEM TO DO THE SAME. They will continue with this policy becuase people roll over and take it. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.
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by Don\'t spam me Posted Sat March 18, 2006 @ 6:02 PM
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Stop shopppin there. Make your own clothes. And I'm serious. Huge companies like that are not losing any money when you return clothes to them. Believe me they make enough.
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by Buddy Posted Sat March 18, 2006 @ 4:51 PM
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Oh, I know, it's terrible! To think that a store would want to try to *gasp* PROTECT itself from people scamming it by having a *gasp* RETURN POLICY!
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okaaaaaaay, you don't want to shop there anymore but you want a coupon or gift card? May i suggest a good place for you to shove said gift card, if you recieve one?
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by MA Loper Posted Thu March 16, 2006 @ 3:44 PM
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I agree with Manda that something doesn't seem quite right here. I too was a former Guest Services Team Member and from the sound of it, whoever helped you had to be in training, because they screwed up on several procedures.
First of all, since you were requesting to EXCHANGE the merchandise, the team member should have a) offered to let you go choose the correct size and bring it back up or b) called the department to have THEM bring it up for you. Why they treated it as a return is beyond me - the person either didn't listen to you or was too lazy to do things the right way.
Second, also as Manda pointed out, there is a set limit on how many no-receipt returns (whether it is an exchange or a complete return)can be done per customer (or in this case, per driver's license number) but the actual number of returns is not typically something that is ever to be shared with guests.
For the team member to flat out tell you that you would be barred from doing no-receipt returns for a year was not only inaccurate information, but not something she should have said to you, or any other guest. The system does not show them how many no-receipts you've returned anyway, it just tells them to accept or decline the return and it does not say why, so how would she even know if it was your first or your fifth? The only people who would be notified of that information would be Assets Protection (the security people) and THEY would deal with the people who abuse it (like Claude Allen - Whoops!).
Personally, while I know you were shocked by the team members comments, you still were permitted to do the exchange, so I don't understand where you get off asking for a gift card for your "troubles." You weren't inconvenienced and got what you wanted.
I get so tired of people bashing Target. Their Guest Services is one of the few I've encountered that go out of their way for a guest. When I worked there, at times a customer who was CLEARLY trying to get over on the system only had to ask for a Team Lead and would then get whatever they wanted - EVEN IF IT VIOLATED OUR POLICIES. I can't tell you how many times I told a customer "No" based on the policies posted at every Target Guest Services counter an on the back of every receipt only to have that customer sneer at me when the team lead came up and authorized me to do whatever the guest asked for.
Target is an incredibly customer-phobic company! They HATE making customers upset and will literally bend over backwards to accomodate even the most ridiculous requests that guests make. Maybe that is why some people feel it is acceptable to make outrageous demands when their every whim is not catered to.
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by mamawild Sun April 2, 2006 @ 12:36 PM
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by Brenny Posted Wed March 8, 2006 @ 7:07 PM
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Horrible service/ridiculous policy = I didn't get exactly what I wanted.
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by Brenny Wed March 15, 2006 @ 3:28 PM
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by ed wilson Fri March 17, 2006 @ 5:40 PM
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by Manda R Posted Wed March 8, 2006 @ 4:41 PM
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The story doesn't make sense. I worked for Target and I know that the only way the system blocks you from doing anymore no receipt returns/exchanges is if you have done atleast three returns/exchanges w/o a receipt in a given amount of time. So if this was your first time doing a no receipt return/exchange the system would not block you out after just one time. Have you done return/exchanges at Target without a receipt before? Honestly no one is trying to treat you like dirt but because Target at one time had a very open return policy people took advantage of it so now Target has a strict return policy. Blame your fellow consumers...they ruined it for you!!
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by Erik Posted Wed March 8, 2006 @ 12:16 PM
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Despite the fact that it's against Target's return policy, you were graciously given a one-time exception to exchange an item without a reciept.
You've got an awfully funny definition of being treated "like dirt."
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by JuliePie Posted Tue March 7, 2006 @ 1:23 PM
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Do you know the gift-giver? I'm assuming it's a family member or friend. Why couldn't you have just asked them if they had the gift receipt so you could exchange it? I'm sure they would have been happy to give it to you.
And a solution to their policy: just make sure you save your Target receipts for the rest of the year. It's not that hard.
I really don't think they treated you "like dirt", and you don't deserve anything.
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So if Target is such a horrible place, then why would you want a giftcard? Fishing for freebies?
A person is limited to 2 no-receipt returns/exchanges per year. This is for the chances when the guest didn't get a gift receipt. This is a courtesy to guests because the return policy states that every transaction needs a receipt dated within 90 days.
I don't see where the bad service is in this situation.
Now you know you need to have a receipt for the rest of your returns/exchanges. Wouldn't you rather have found that out now, rather then at your next no-receipt transaction?
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by AFPheonix Posted Fri March 17, 2006 @ 2:41 PM
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And I really don't see a problem with the scenario as it played out.
As for people giving clothing gifts, especially from Target, where they print out gift reciepts for EVERYTHING like they're going out of style, just put the freaking gift reciept in the card.
Not difficult.
Honestly.
They girl who handled the return sounded very intelligent and businesslike, she processed the return in a timely fashion, and you got what you wanted. What's to complain about?
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by adminwrn Posted Tue March 7, 2006 @ 9:19 AM
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I am STUNNED at people asking for an apology.... Who the HELL do you think you are? What's next? Demanding that employees bow or coursty upon your entering the store? Target has to protect themselves from shoplifters and must apply certain policies to do so. Those policies apply to you just like they do to everyone else, my dear.
Target does not owe you an apology. As one other poster pointed out, they did you a favor. The actual policy is no returns or exchanges without a receipt. So, they already bent the policy for you.
BLECH!
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by ed wilson Posted Tue March 7, 2006 @ 8:55 AM
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I want, I want, I want! No proof it was "purchased", they did you a favor (giving you the right size) and when they explain their rules (not Rebecca's) you start the "I wants" and hint you may never shop there again.
Try this with any other business (doctor, insurance) and they would tell you where to go.
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by Brenny Posted Mon March 6, 2006 @ 9:21 PM
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My store has the same policy. Ours is that you are limited to 3 returns w/o a receipt a year.
It is the same for returns AND exchanges. Why do people think they are different?
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by p d Posted Mon March 6, 2006 @ 9:03 PM
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I wouldn't call it horrible service but she should have explained the policy before she did anything. Or you could have asked her why she wanted your ID.
You weren't treat like dirt. The only reason they have a tough policy is because of crooks. You have them to thank.
And Happy Birthday to your daughter.
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by Quinny Posted Mon March 6, 2006 @ 5:35 PM
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I CAN see her perspective, though, even though the Target return policy is on the receipt and at the store.
She wasn't told that she will not be able to return anything until AFTER the transaction was done. I think that that is what the complaint is about - lack of communication. She told the lady who was doing the return that she wanted to exchange them, but the lady continued with the return. Then at the end of the return, she found out that she can not do another return transaction for a year! I would be mad too!
I dont know the cost of the shorts, but one pair of Circo shorts cannot be more than ten dollars. Ten dollars without a receipt and you are cut off for a year! Wow!
I will say, though, that a return and an exchange are the same thing to most retailers. Since different sizes have different UPCs, the inventory will have to be adjusted with an exchange, just like with a return.
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by EricMV Posted Mon March 6, 2006 @ 3:47 PM
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I've read your letter a couple of times, and I have trouble figuring out the problem. It seems like you received excellent service, including the unusual courtesy of their taking back a return without a receipt. It also seems that the employees understood store policy and communicated it accurately.
You were entitled to nothing whatsoever, you got something, and you are still complaining.
Why not retract this letter and replace it with one thanking them for their excellent service?
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by S. Brown Posted Mon March 6, 2006 @ 1:13 PM
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It is well know that Target has a very strict return/exchange policy and it is printed on the back of their receipts as well as posted in the store. Was this your very first return without a receipt? By the way - - an exchange without a receipt is treated the same as a return.
You are not entitled to an apology much less a coupon/gift card.
Target does not treat customers like dirt - - they simply enforce their policies.
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