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Regular customers. First time Poor Service, Food and overall experience
Posted Mon March 20, 2006 2:58 pm, by Vanessa C. written to Olive Garden
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On 3/6/06 we dined at our local Olive Garden which has been our favorite restaurant since it opened here in Sevier County. We have always had excellent service from this establishment until recently. On 3/6/06 my husband and I visited for an evening dinner, the weather was freezing that night. The wait was normal, roughly 15 minutes, good seating time overall.
We were seated in the nonsmoking section that follows to the right of the main walkway facing the main parkway in the booth on the left side of the windows. Above this table there is a direct vent which was blowing out cold air, keep in mind we had just come in from outside where the temperature was in the 40's/50's, we were shivering sitting here. After waiting for over 5-10 minutes our waitress finally shows up. We explain to her that there is this freezing cold air blowing down from the vent above, obvious that the air conditioner was running, and if she could please ask management to place turn it off/turn the heat on. She tells us that no the air conditioning is not on and follows it up by some halfass excuse of how cold air comes in and bounces off the windows from outside which then makes it appear cold/gives off a cold draft?!?!?
My husband builds brand new homes in this area and knows all about the construction of such as well as the windows/weather and how they operate. It was obvious that this woman was lying straight to our faces. She then takes our drink order and disappears for another 10 minutes.
She returns with our drinks, takes our order and leaves again. Moments later we both felt a rush of hot air indicating that they had finally switched the heat on (the familiar burnt/heat smell when a system is switched from A/c to heat was obvious that she was lying). Great, we both got to thaw out while waiting for our food. The waitress finally returns with our salad and some breadsticks and then disappears, by now it was so hot that it we were smoldering, she returns about 10-15 minutes later and asks if we would like some more salad to which we said yes and she acknowledged.
While waiting on her to return there was that rush of freezing cold air again, obvious that the air conditioning had been turned on again. I don't know who's enjoying this game of freeze out but by now we were getting extremely annoyed at this. There was no point in talking to the waitress about this problem again because during the first discussion of this she blatantly lied to our faces.
Another 10 minutes later she returns, no salad in hand, and asks us if we would like some more salad?!? Does she have alzheimers? Wouldn't it dawn on her to wonder where the big salad bowl had gone to considering she just picked it up 10 minutes prior when she asked us the same question? My husband and I just looked at each other amazed at this and just politely say "yes" again to which she again acknowledges and then leaves.
Some time passes and she returns with a bowl of salad and reeking of tobacco/smoke (that explains the long waits and inattentiveness, she had to take time out for her cigarette breaks). By this time our meal had been delivered. She finally offers a refill of our tea and coke and then leaves again.
Our plates are hot as usual and all seemed normal. My husband had ordered the Chicken Parmesan which was steaming off the plate and I had ordered the Manicotti Formaggio. I take the first bite of my manicotti and it was at best lukewarm. I don't mean it wasn't hot enough, I mean it was NOT hot at all. I'm guessing my entree was staged while waiting on my husbands to cook. At this point I was more than ready to leave. My husband's entree was fine, thoroughly hot, so I set my plate off to the side and ate another plate of salad with a breadstick while waiting for him to finish his meal.
The waitress returned once to offer a refill of drinks. When he was finished we stacked all of our plates into a pile and straightened/cleaned up the table like we always do. The waitress returns and I asked for a to go box for my entree that I didn't touch. She asks if I would like a few breadsticks to take with me, I declined at first but she persisted so I politely replied 'yes'. She leaves and returns with a to-go box and an empty breadstick bag. She takes my plate to empty the entree into the to-go box and hands me the bag so that I could put the 3 breadsticks that were in the bottom of our dish/trash pile to take with me. This was the final straw, we asked for our check, paid and quickly left.
We have always enjoyed this Olive Garden and we recommend it to everyone that asks us for a great place to eat. This however was unlike any other dining experience we have had at this specific establishment and it reflected very poorly on the type of service we normally receive. This incident makes us never to want to return again. I'm assuming this was due to this specific waitress, the male waiter that was working in the section beside and near us was very attentive to his tables and very friendly (the type of service we're accustomed to any other time we've dined here). However the service we received this visit was absolutely terrible and there is no excuse for the inattentiveness, lying and the taking of smoke breaks when you have customers-especially those that are nonsmoking.
Quite honestly I have no idea what you can do about this terrible experience now. In the future I do recommend that you sit your employees down and explain to them that the customer comes first. If they need to take a smoking break then do so during the times when you're not waiting on a table.
I doubt it could be done, but if possible use nonsmoking servers for your nonsmoking section. There's nothing worse than requesting a nonsmoking section and being waited on by a server who reeks of tobacco. Personally when dining out we request the farthest table away from the smoking section. Coming from a nonsmoking person I can tell you that not only does it irritate the sinuses, burns your nose but it absolutely makes you nauseous when being around a smoker when you're trying to eat.
Below is what is written on our ticket so that you can figure out who the waitress was that night and straighten this out. This needs to be taken care of before this establishment loses more customers due to poor quality service.
OLIVE GARDEN
Mar.6, 2006 7:06pm
1662 3 11 30068
Server : Susan M
Cashier: Susan M
Check : 4778
Table : 202
Stored Order
Soft Drink 1.95
Iced Tea 1.95
Mani Formaggio 11.25
* salad
Chick Parm 12.25
* salad
Sales Tax 2.60
Eat In 30.00
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by koalafan Posted Wed March 29, 2006 @ 12:16 AM
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I would have talked to a manager while there and insisted on some comp.
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by Debbie Caudill Posted Tue March 28, 2006 @ 8:20 PM
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I doubt it could be done, but if possible use nonsmoking servers for your nonsmoking section. There's nothing worse than requesting a nonsmoking section and being waited on by a server who reeks of tobacco. Personally when dining out we request the farthest table away from the smoking section. Coming from a nonsmoking person I can tell you that not only does it irritate the sinuses, burns your nose but it absolutely makes you nauseous when being around a smoker when you're trying to eat.
Maybe they could hire people who don't breathe either just for you? Get a life. What this girl does on her break is none of your business, maybe your perfume was gagging her. Maybe she was waiting on tables in the smoking section. Sounds to me as if you're just way to picky and need to stay at home and eat so no one else offends you. Oh wait, we can't get free food like that can we?
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breaks
by koalafan Wed March 29, 2006 @ 12:17 AM
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by adminwrn Posted Sat March 25, 2006 @ 6:19 PM
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From the tone of this letter, in all likelihood, you are just a snob (which I am *sure* you will mis-guidely take as a compliment) and hold everyone else in the world to a much higher standard than you hold yourself to. I mean, you called the server a liar. Who do you think you are? God? Just because your husband builds homes does make him an expert on windows. I can you from personal experience that sitting next to a cold window WILL make you cold and the air coming from the ceiling can feel cold. If the outside is cold, due to the most basic physical law and since glass has a fairly low specific heat the window will become cold rapidly and maitain that cold until the outside warms up signifigantly and it only makes sense that the air blowing would feel cold to you because unless the air is VERY warm it will still feel cool to you for a bit. When my heat at home is on, if I put my hand over the register, it feels cool, not that warm, however, the home does warm up from using the heat. And then you go on to suggest that she is playing some kind of a game by making the air really hot and then really cold. Paranoid, much? In most public establishments, especially those that are part of a major franchise,the thermostat is locked behind a plastic cover mounted over it and can only be accessed by the manager with his or her key. I also find it suspect that you refer the the typical "burned smell" of the heating system. This only happens when the system has been off in the warmer months and is turned on for the first time. Seeing as how this happened in March, the heat has probably been used consistantly for several months.
It's obvious you are not a very nice or sensitive person judging by the way you called the sever a liar and then made a joke about Alzhimer's. I kind of wonder if this is jealous wife situation? Maybe the female server was really cute and you did not like it? It has all the classic charcteristics of that type of situation with the grandiose accusations and the anger and venom towards her with no proof of her tampering with the thermostat since you never mention seeing her.
And seeing Waiting and thinking that all servers are like that? I bet you have never worked at this kind of job in your life. Most of the servers I have worked with are good, honest people who just want to do a good job.
I hope they throw your letter in the trash.
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by Jeffrey Posted Wed March 22, 2006 @ 3:42 PM
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This one is so simple.
Vanessa, when you spoke to the manager what did he say?
You did speak to the manager, right?
A letter like this should only be written when you speak to the manager and the manager is rude. You see, a letter written after the fact to corporate does very little good. At best, corporate will forward you letter to the local manager. Who will write or call you and say "I'm sorry. Had you let me know, I would have corrected the situation immediately."
If you didn't even ask to speak to the manager, then there's very little that can be done by writing corporate.
The other thing with your letter (other than your offensive reference to people with Alzheimers) is you admit that you are a regular. While this was clearly a VERY bad night, it should be clear to you that this is now how this particular location normally operated. It was a bad night. It's not fair to you. But this tells me that, in general, the place is well managed. Perhaps there was a new manager. Perhaps the manager was sick. Perhaps the cook quit. Perhaps the waitress just found out that her husband is leaving her.
Don't write-off a place as being bad because they had one bad night.
One last thing... I can't seem to let this one go. Your statement "Does she have Alzheimers?" is uncalled for. This is a serious medical condition. I've seen, first hand, what it does to families. I've seen how it destroys a person. It's not funny. Would you ever say "What's up with the waitress? She got cancer or something?" or "The waitress was late. What, was she raped?"
If I got this letter, even if it was otherwise valid, I would discredit you as an idiot simply because of your choice of words.
I know you didn't mean any offense. But when you are writing a letter to a business (especially about a lack of professionalism) and use a life destroying diseases as a joke, you are showing that you do not care about other people. Nor do you understand what being professional, adult, and respectful really mean.
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Yeah!
by LB06 Mon March 27, 2006 @ 11:12 PM
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While I think you had some valid complaints, I don't quite understand why you didn't address them right then and there.
Ask to be moved.
Ask to speak to a manager.
Ask for another server.
"Waiting" was just a movie. I've worked in the service industry for quite awhile, and while I've sometimes had the desire to "season" a certain customer's plate, I have yet to see anyone actually do so.
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by SZ Posted Tue March 21, 2006 @ 6:32 PM
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The smell of smoke on a person doesn't bother me even though I'm not a smoker. But what does bug me is the 8 spritzes of cologne/perfume you put on before you go out to eat. Now--that DOES bug me!
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by Quinny Posted Tue March 21, 2006 @ 6:09 PM
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Im bored right now, so I read all of the comments that other people have wrote so far.
I just wanted to throw this in at you...how did you know that your waitress only had two tables? You stated that in reply to someone's comments, but even if it was a Monday, she could have been waiting the tables in the bar area, or helping hostess too. Waitresses don't just stand around in the back and talk trash about you when you arent being waited on. They are helping other waitresses get food together, helping other patrons decide what to order, making sure that the heat gets turned on for people that are cold, making sure the air conditioning gets turned on for people that are hot, telling their manager that they have a hot table, where the patrons are complaining about anything that isnt perfect, getting salads and drinks ready, delivering food, helping clean tables, and yes, in this time they too might take a break. If you dont think that she deserves a three or four minute break while you are eating your food, you should apply for a job at this restaurant. Im sure you could do ten times better, and yes, you dont need to take breaks! Your customers are more important!
Looky here! You can even apply online:
http://www.olivegarden.com/employment/hourly/
Did you ever think that she might have been helping deliver some food in the smoking section of the restaurant, or maybe even getting some drinks from the bar for her only other table? You don't know if she was smoking, she just smelled like the death sticks.
Oh, and I take personal offense to you saying that she has Alzheimer's. My mother has early onset Alzheimer's and if you were to actually spend, oh, maybe five minutes with my mom, you would easily see the difference between Alzheimer's and forgetfulness. My mother can't even do simple, orderred tasks, like going to the grocery store to get three items. She might come back with fifty items, and none were on the list. She forgets to take her medicine, though she is supposed to take it every single day. She forgets what she is doing at most all hours of the day. She's taken cold showers because she forget how to turn on the hot water. Oh, and the worst of it all, sometimes she doesnt even recognize me, one of her own children!
So get your facts straight before you want to disrespect your waitress because she asked you twice about a salad. She's doing her job and may have had a bad night, but she definately doesn't have Alzheimer's.
If I were your waitress, and you had the same holier than thou attitude that you do in the letter as you did when I was serving you, I would have probably acted the same way.
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The draft could have been from the opening of the front door when customers walk in. Oops, my bad, Vanessa was dining that night, Olive Garden should shut it's doors, kicked all other customers out, and devoted it's entire staff to make sure the temperature was comfortable enough for her.
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by Venice Posted Tue March 21, 2006 @ 3:54 AM
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So you are never again going to request your meal to be corrected because of some movie you saw? I never heard of the movie "Waiting", but the fact is it's just a movie. If the food wasn't hot enough for you, you should have had them heat it to your liking instead of being a martyr. If this movie had that much of an effect on you, it sounds like you're going to have trouble eating out anywhere.
No matter where you live, freezing is 32 degrees, not 40/50's. Do you realize how ridiculous it sounds for you to be accusing them of continuously switching from heat to air-conditioning? Here's how it works. The blower is on, and the heat goes on and off periodically. When the heat is off, the air from the blower feels cooler, but it is not air-conditioning. Then the heat goes on, and it warms up. I thought everyone knew that. You knew you were uncomfortable before you even ordered, so you should have asked to be moved away from the vent. I've done that many times, and it's never a problem.
Why not start a writing campaign to your representatives to ban smoking in public places. I am extremely sensitive to smoke and am thankful every time I go out that my state has such a law.
You "have always had excellent service from this establishment", but because you didn't request a different table or your meal to be corrected, you "never want to return again". That's your choice.
If you knew the name of your server, check number, table, etc., what was the point of itemizing the check?
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by Brenny Tue March 21, 2006 @ 5:31 PM
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by Cor H Posted Mon March 20, 2006 @ 9:24 PM
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When I worked in a restaurant during college, people were always trying to debate electrical and plumbing details with me.
I am not a mechanical person and know nothing about these types of situations. I doubt the waitress does either. The management staff was constantly giving the employees reasons for heating, cooling, plumbing and electrical problems and, when we would explain the situation to a disgruntled customer as it had been explained to us, we would have to endure the experts lecturing us as to what was or wasn't possible.
My suggestion is to leave out the accusation of lying. It isn't nice and, for all you know, she may have believed that's what the problem was. As JuliePie pointed out, she could have been told that.
Focus only on what the waitress is likely to be able to control.
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by Vanessa Carpenter Posted Mon March 20, 2006 @ 3:58 PM
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Why didn't we send it back? Considering the waitress we had I wouldn't have dared send it back. Have you seen the movie "Waiting"? No idea where you live but as for cold temps. yes that's cold for us here in East Tennessee in the Smoky Mtns.
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by JuliePie Posted Tue March 21, 2006 @ 9:28 AM
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Trust me, I have worked in multiple restaurants, and the servers do not defile your food. A lot of this movie hits close to home, but the tampering with food...well, that's just an urban legend.
Then again, I don't know what those cooks are doing behind the line...LOL.
Just because you don't want to send it back doesn't mean you can't bring the problem to the manager's attention.
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by Quinny Posted Tue March 21, 2006 @ 5:52 PM
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Freezing is when water turns to ice, roughly around 32 Degrees Farenheit, or 0 Degrees Celcius.
If it was in the middles 40s (you say 40-50), thats not freezing. That's brisk, cold, but no water can ever freeze at that temperature. Impossible.
So, you were cold. You had just been outside, and you sit down. Then the air comes on, making you feel even colder.
I am presuming, though, that it is not the air conditioning, but rather an air vent in order to keep air circulating and fresh. You seat twenty to thirty patrons in a room together and lo and behold, the air could get stale rather fast. Be glad that you and your husband were the first to get a breath of the fresh air.
You should have asked for a manager. Even before you ordered, you should have asked. It would have made the rest of your dinner out a lot better experience.
And, if you want to feel real freezing temperatures, come to where I live in Wisconsin. It was 38 degrees on Sunday, and that was one of the warmest days we've seen since November. My husband and I went out for a walk. It can stretch all the way down to 20 below at night and in the early morning, so I would gladly trade for some 40-50 weather anyday.
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by JuliePie Posted Mon March 20, 2006 @ 3:56 PM
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All your complaints are valid, however, I have some suggestions for you:
I've said it before, I'll say it again: SPEAK UP. Let the manager know of problems! Send your food back! The best time to resolve a problem is when it happens.
Rather than calling the waitress a liar, you might take into consideration that the window/draft excuse is something the managment told her. Managers do not like having to go to the controll panel every time someone complains. You were complaining you were cold, but I'm sure there was someone elsewhere in the restaurant complaining they were hot. Next time something lke this happens, ask to be moved to a different seat, away from a vent.
It was not nice to ask if the waitress had alzheimer's. Alzheimer's is a horrific, debilitating disease with no cure. That's like throwing around "retarded". Overall, your whole letter could have been a little nicer.
And, last, but not least: if only non-smokers were allowed to work in the non-smoking section, restaurants would be very short-staffed in that area. I'm not even a smoker, and I smoke at work. The customers drive me to it.
I would seriously hope that ONE incident like this wouldn't keep you from ever going back to Olive Garden again. Everyone has a bad day. I hope your letter gets a response, good luck to you.
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re: JuliePie
by Vanessa Carpenter Mon March 20, 2006 @ 4:15 PM
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Besides...
by Iconophiliac Tue March 21, 2006 @ 2:39 PM
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Why didn't you send your meal back if it was cold? Or ask for a manager to discuss the heating/cooling situation?
If you think temps in the 40's or 50's (after dark even!) in March are "freezing" I wish I lived where you do!
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