Target Made Me Cry

First of all, I completely agree with Karen. I was actually online
looking for this bra because I could no longer find it anywhere, and
my google search pulled up this string!

I am with you, sister!

Secondly, there are some real dumbasses responding to your post,
Karen. I realise that a lot of smaller women do not know what big
women go through to find clothing. To state "well, there are stores
for larger sizes..." Um...yeah. There are like two in the city (2
million people) I live in. Woo. I mean, that is soo helpful.

But hey, gals, there are TWO stores to pick from! Quit your whining!


This seems to be more of the "shut up, fatso" mentality that is
really a symptom of our sick society.

I can hear the response to that, now..."Well why don't you just stop
eating, then you'll fit into normal clothes."

Guess what, women...

the average size of an American woman is 14-16. That's right. And
not because we're all getting too fat, but because that is a normal
woman's healthy body size (depending on height--I'm 5'10").

So...if only two stores in the city specialize in clothing for women
over size 16...and half of the women are that size and up...you do the
math.


IT DOESN"T MAKE SENSE.

So, call me fat, call me abnormal, tell me to quit whining, tell me
I'm some kind of femmanazi or something...blow me off if you need to.
Just remember that you can choose not to buy into our culture's
anti-women messages. You don't have to play the game.

You will have to look really hard for cothing that fits, though.

Excuse me luv, but are you serious? I just love target and would hate
to have to black list them as well as walmart! Cheer up doll - there
are brighter days ahead!

Hey, sweetie, I hope there is more selection at another Target store
in Cincinnati, or at target.com. I know things can hurt in a way that
is not logical.

I understand your desire to have the store bring back more plus-sized
items. However, crying over it? Nightmares? That's some pretty high
drama. Could it be that maybe the lack of selection in your size is
emphasizing your own insecurities/displeasure over your weight?

There are other stores that carry Maidenform, and probably have the
ones you want, or check online.

In the meantime, I would contact Target about possibly carrying more
plus-sized items, but skip the drama and present your case rationally.

they do have stores specifically designed for +sized women

I order my bras through hanes their just my size bra line. Pay a
little extra but I love these bras. I would marry these bras if I
could.

You think you got a beef with Target? How about me and Spiderman? He
made me gay! (anyone remember that site a few years back?)

I don't understand all of the crying. Ok, so Target phased out your
bra size. Well, get a grip. I'm a plus sized gal as well and have
found that over the years many stores have phased out bra sizes over a
C and you know what I do? I go out and find another store that carries
my bra size! Plus, the internet has THOUSANDS of online shops that you
can find bras for plus sized gals. Instead of crying and acting a
fool, buck up, and find a solution for pete's sake! I'm glad I wasn't
present at your water works, grow up.

Hmmm... you are being way too emotional.
I do agree that they shouldn't just carry smaller sizes.

So, when's this drama going to air on Lifetime?

Something interesting I just realized. There are both plus-sized
posters and petite-sized posters on here.

In general the plus-sizers believe they have a valid complaint, and
will complain to try and get stores to stock their sizes.

In general the petite-sizers just realize the store does not stock
their size, so they simply do not feel they need to complain, and just
shop at a store that will carry their size.

There has to be a connection to something here.

So is Lane Bryant discriminatory because I, being a size 1, cannot
shop there? Or Chadwicks? Or The Avenue, which by the way, I love?
Seriously, get a grip.

why would you cry just because they didnt have plus sized bras? just
go to a different store....gosh

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Please get ahold of yourself. I can understand crying out of
frustration but that won't help your problem. The best way to feel
better is to solve the problem.

I had a similiar thing happen to me and I was really unhappy but I did
not take it personally. The plus-size style I had worn for many many
years was discontinued. First I wrote a nice letter to the
manufacturor (you can wirte to the store) to see if they were going to
replace it with another similiar style. When they said no I went on
the prowl for something as close to the original as possible.

I never found anything as good but I did find a couple of things that
worked pretty well. I then wrote another letter telling the
manufacturer nicely they lost a long time customer. I realize it
probably didn't make much of a difference to them because it's all
about what works for them sales-wise but it made me feel better.

Don't let things like this upset you.You may even find something
better.

Get a grip!!! What a drama queen!!!

I really didn't think too much about this letter until I saw that
there were so many replies, so I read it again.

You obviously depend upon Target for affordable clothes in your size,
and then realized they were starting to phase them out. Seeing that
they also discontinued your bra size was probably the last straw. And
then you lost it. For whatever reason, you reached the end of your
rope that day. I can see that happening. I really can.

Maybe you lead a stressful life, and one of the things you relied upon
was now being taken away, meaning you would have to start all over
again looking for places to get what you need at a price you can
afford. I would probably choose to scream, but you chose to cry.
Everybody's different.

As far as nightmares are concerned, I can assure you I have had
crazier ones than that. We have no control over what we dream (at
least I don't think we do). You probably had it on your mind when you
went to sleep. I can't tell you how many times I've had something
similar happen to me. I certainly don't wake up thinking there's
something wrong with me. On the contrary, it's probably quite normal.

Your only mistake was taking it personally. I am surprised that stores
like Target and Sears are doing away with plus sizes, but I know there
can only be one reason for such a decision, and that's MONEY! Trust
me, it has nothing to do with you or anyone else who needs large
sizes.

I actually think your letter (and the one written to Sears) is a good
idea. If enough women request plus sizes, it might make these stores
rethink their decision. In the meantime, there are lots of good
suggestions in the comments here. It might take a little extra effort,
but maybe you'll find things you like even more than what you were
buying in Target.

Happy shopping!

I can sympathize if you're upset that Target doesn't carry bras in
your size, but you have to be about the biggest drama queen I have
seen here (and that's saying something)

Do you honestly expect us to believe you started sobbing at the store
and then had nightmares afterwards because you couldn't purchase the
bra you wanted? Just be honest, you threw that bit in so we'd all feel
sorry for you.

Some of you need to grow up and realize that just because something
isnt a big deal to you doesnt mean it isnt to someone else.

If it was a poorly written letter and you wanted to tear it apart for
that, thats one thing. If it was a silly complaint full of outrageous
demands and you wanted to attack it for that...thats another thing.

But attacking someone's mental stablility because of how they shared
their feelings and emotions, whether they are emotions you would feel
or not, is just sick.

If you dont like that...tough.

I'm not sure why this experience caused you to react the way you did,
but I seriously think you should talk to your doctor about possible
clinical depression. In my own experience, it doesn't always take
much to become sad or angry at a seemingly trivial thing.

I don't think Target is trying to ignore a growing portion of its
clientele. It probably has more to do with what brings in profits. I
imagine that other departments of the store are more profitable. And
anyway, considering the increasing number of stores that cater to
plus-sized women, you're likely better off purchasing clothing at
those places. When it comes to clothing, you definitely get what you
pay for.

I, too, am a plus-sized woman who can't purchase lingerie in most
department stores. Lane Bryant's catalog has a great selection of
reasonably-priced clothing and undergarments that you can't find in
the stores. (I would avoid the Venezia undies, though. I found them
to be of inferior quality to Hanes or Jockey.) The URL is
http://www.lanebryantcatalog.com/

The best place for a plus-sized woman to buy undergarments is Just My
Size, a sister company of Hanes whose target clientele is plus-sized
women. Although JMS specializes in undergarments, you can also buy
clothing, sleepwear, and swimsuits and not spend a fortune. JMS sells
most of the best-known bras, such as Bali, Glamorise, Playtex, and, of
course, Just My Size. I've been able to purchase Playtex and Just My
Size bras for less than $15 each.
I shop from the Web site, but you can also find stores in some outlet
centers. The URL is http://www.jms.com/

If you prefer to shop at a department store for clothing, try Kohl's
or JC Penney. You won't be able to purchase a bra at these places,
but you can take advantage of the sales to find some good-quality
plus-sized outfits at a reasonable price. If there's a JC Penney
outlet store near you, it's an excellent place to look for outfits.

If for some reason you like more expensive clothing, try Elisabeth.
Elisabeth is my favorite place to shop for clothing when the items are
on discount. If you can take advantage of 50%-off sales or clearance
items, you can get some beautiful clothes for a reasonable price. The
company also sells socks and hosiery. (Elisabeth is the plus-sized
arm of Liz Claiborne.) The URL is http://www.elisabeth.com/ Foley's
also sells some clothes from this line. If you shop on the Internet,
Elisabeth offers free shipping for orders over $150.

If you're looking for casual wear, try Old Navy. Although the
selection is limited, I've been happy with the tops I bought from the
Web site. The site often has sales on tops, bottoms, footwear, and
undies, plus very reasonable $5 shipping on all orders. It's a sister
company of the Gap, so you know the clothes will last.

Hope this helps.

I never implied, as one poster insinuated, that she be
institutionalized. I said she "has issues". Clearly that is the
case. I am the first one to admit that I am very sensitive and my
feelings can be easily hurt. But I would never let something as minor
as trying to find a bra cause a major meltdown and, personally, I
think the whole having nightmares thing was a tad bit exaggerated.

But that's just my opinion.

Mary Jo, honey, no one is trying to attack you. Tickytack can be
blunt, and so can you, and that is why I look forward to reading both
your posts and see how you agree and disagree with mine! I don't
think anyone here would ever pick on you about your divorce, we know
it is a hard time for you, and I would think the vast majority of
people on here respect that, tickytack included. I really do think
that ticky was just stating an opinion about the letter writer here,
who in all honesty probably should calm down a little and learn to
appreciate her figure as part of what makes her special instead of
something to be ashamed of.
Tickytack, I think you are right when you say the letter writer has
issues. Obviously there are body and self-esteem issues going on
there that have nothing to do with Target's marketing decisions. But
those negative body images are reinforced by the fashion industry's
refusal as a whole to incorporate plus sizing into their regular
lines. It is easy for people who are comfortable in their own skins,
like you and me, to shrug that off and get on with our lives. Some
aren't so well-adjusted.
You guys are two of my favorite online personalities. I love reading
your insightful and/or humorous takes on these letters! Let's all
just get along, ok? :)

I don't know how big your Target store is, but at mine they have at
least 8-9 racks of plus size and some on the back wall. Now I know
that this isn't a huge selection but compared to the amount of room
for the regualr sizes, it is proportional. Also maybe you hit the
store at a time that most plus-size clothing was clearanced. I also
know that sometimes bras and lingerie are discontinued, but will be
available again within a few weeks.
Did you ask anyone about the selection or just take it like it was?

Whether it's "discriminatory" or not is academic, since it is
perfectly legal almost everywhere in the country to discriminate based
on size or weight.

However, considering our nation's increasing collective obesity, it
seems like a terrible business decision for any clothing store to
reduce it's selection of larger sizes. You would think they would be
moving in the opposite direction.

Target is the WORST when it comes to plus sized ANYTHING!

I dont shop at Target for clothes. The few things they have are ugly.
why is it they have major fashion designers for their other women's
clothes but not for the plus sizes?

And some try to say that isnt discriminatory?!?!

Just dont shop there anymore.

There are other, and better places, to find a bra.
If nothing else start looking online.

When you have a large bust, cheap bras are just not an option, they
can't provide the right support. You're better off going to Lane
Bryant (they have bra sales all the time), where I found the bras may
cost twice as much, but last 3 or 4 times longer.

Crying in a store like Target, having nightmares over the fact that
they discontinued the size of bra you like and feeling shamed is way
over the top - - and this situation is not discriminatory or sneaky -
- it's business. Obviously for whatever reason the bra in plus sizes
did not sell well enough to the masses for Target to continue stocking
this item.

Did it ever occur to you that Maidenform may have stopped
manufacturing this bra in your size and the high drama situation isn't
Target's fault at all?

I'm not plus-size, but I am a D/DD, and I wouldn't buy a bra at
Target.

I have to tell you... if you're anything larger than a C cup, Target
isn't the place to go bra shopping. If you're a plus size gal and
have a large bra size, you really should bite the financial bullet and
go to a decent department store (Macy's, Nordstrom, Bloomingdale's,
etc.) (or go to a reputable lingerie shop (NOT Victoria's Secret)) and
get fitted for a bra that really fits you well.

And Target probably isn't being discriminatory, but rather perhaps
found that that line of clothing wasn't selling well. Target is about
one thing: the bottom line. Have you tried Lane Bryant? When that
store first came to malls, I didn't even know it was plus-size
clothing because the clothes were cool.