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Profiling of Guests - LImit seating in Main dining room based on stereotypes
Posted Fri April 14, 2006 4:07 pm, by Pernell C. written to Capital Grille of Troy Inc
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On April 9th, 2006, at approximately 7:30 PM, a colleague, Kerri W. and I went to The Capital Grille at 2800 West Big Beaver Road in Troy, Michigan, for dinner.
After parking we proceeded to enter the establishment. We were promptly greeted by the very attractive hostess. Upon telling her the size of our party (2), a female waitress approached the hostess where she was greeted by the audible whisper, "...should I seat them in the main dining room?" This was repeated approximately four to five times to the waitress. The waitress looked perplexed and responded affirmly that we should sit in the main dining room.
Nonetheless, I was thoroughly surprised by the exchange as the restaurant was modestly busy, with many tables and booths available. Our attire was upscale casual, similar or better than other Caucasian couples and foursomes in the main dining room. I am black of hispanic descent and my business colleague is black as well. Quite candidly, I do not understand why I would not be allowed in the main dining room if there is availability and I am dressed in attire comparable to other guests. As a result, despite the delicious meal and impeccable service from Joe Black, our waiter, my experience at The Capital Grille was far from pleasant.
In light of my poor experience, I would like to see disciplinary action taken or in-depth education given to your hostess and greeting staff. I am not sure if your establishment has a policy to profile, but I am young and black, however, I am also a Director in a prestigious firm, with a healthy compensation model and a luxury european car in my driveway. Needless to say, I think I would be the clientele your establishment seeks and it is really unfortunate that you would loose a customer over an absurdity.
I will be relocating to the Birmingham area within a month from Southern California, and although my business, and personal, meals in the vicinity will resume, and increase significantly, it will not be at the Capital Grille.
I look forward to hearing from a representative from your establishment to discuss, and with all honesty, I hope you make a service recovery effort.
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by mmitch Posted Mon May 1, 2006 @ 1:32 PM
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I have lived in the Troy/Birmingham area of Detroit for 8 years but have recently been transfered out of state with my company. I think it's important for you to understand that this area has many, many successful minorities of all racial and religious backgrounds. Based on the wide variety of cultures in the Detroit area, I am extremely doubtful that what you encountered was racism. If you do frequent the Sommerset Collection again, I think you'll find out that the hostess at that restaurant (or any other in the area) probably just sees you as any other customer - as the area is full of young, successful people of every type. It's just not uncommon for people of all race and creed to visit this area. By the way, you might want to consider buying an American car when you move there. It isn't called the "Motor City" for nothing!
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by mikey Posted Sat April 29, 2006 @ 6:38 PM
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Quite frankly this part of what you said disturbs me:
"I am also a Director in a prestigious firm, with a healthy compensation model and a luxury european car in my driveway. Needless to say, I think I would be the clientele your establishment seeks..."
What make you think that because you are/have all of those qualities, you are any better than a poor black person who comes to dine there? Any person that eats at that establishment deserves respect. Even a lower class person. The restaurant is in the business to sell food to patrons who are willing to pay for it. It does not matter if you are rich or are poor and you saved a whole year to eat there. So get over flashing your money and thinking that everyone should bow down to you because you have more than others.
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by Cory Power Posted Tue April 25, 2006 @ 4:00 PM
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I like how you mentioned your attire and your import automobile. I am just bored at work reading people's sad stories.I am non bias to this issue. Who cares how you are dressed or what you pull up in. Could you direct your discussion as, "I am a person and I feel I was treated badly or inhumane. Because based upon your writing it looks like you are saying," I DRESS NICE AND DRIVE AN EXPENSIVE CAR, BUT I AM STILL A MINORITY....AND THE RESTAURANT STILL SAW MY SKIN COLOR THROUGH MY VERSACE SHIRT." Thats all.
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So basically this person likes to complain. He made three complaints so far.
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by juwingsfan Posted Tue April 25, 2006 @ 12:22 PM
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you must be correct because you are a black man if you do not think everything is going your way it is racism. how about the sexual harrasment statement for the Attractive hostess. could it be possible that she was trying to figure out where to seat you because she wanted you to get the best service? no that could not be true because you are a victim of racism. the hostess has to sit people and spread out the tables to make it even and fair to the wait staff. perhaps they could have seated you in the main area and you not get as high quality service that you received in the other area. I am guessing that you would be claiming racism there too. I have had this same thing happen to me at cap grille and other eating establishments. I guess that they should put all the black people in the main room and everyone else in the other rooms oh wait, that would be racism because they are seperated. hmmm, i don't see how the restraunt could win so i vote stay in so. cal and out of birmingham. oh wait, that is racist toward you isn't it. is it racism if it is one black man to another?
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by MemoryBurner Posted Tue April 25, 2006 @ 2:39 AM
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ok, so just because the lady asked a simple question, u assume that its profiling?
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by AngelaMN Posted Mon April 24, 2006 @ 11:15 PM
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Look, Pernell. I suspect that the way you told this story (and the other one to which someone provided a link) IS how it happened in your head. But we all put "meaning" into what others do and say to and for us, whether that meaning exists or not.
Say a waitress slams your plate down on the table. PErhaps you immediately think, "She did that because she has a problem with black people." More likely, she's in a hurry, or misjudged the distance, or it got heavy and she has a big tray balanced on her hand and shoulder.
What I'm saying is, it seems you're going about life expecting too much of people. You're no dummy -- I'm guessing from the material things you've acquired that you do a good job at work and earn a great salary. Good for you. Truly.
Other people don't work so hard, or are unlucky, or get a crappy start to life, or any combination of the above. They typically end up in the lowest paying jobs around -- one of them is the service industry. That guy in Circuit City you complained about in your other post? He did NOT want to be there working that night, and he probably hates his job. Is it fair to you and other shoppers that he has this attitude? Nope. But aren't you glad you aren't in that situation yourself?
But... here's the kicker. Who's the happiest? You, with all your "stuff," pissed off at perceived slights, taking poor service personally, etc.? Or Joe Blow making $8.50 an hour working at Circuit City, who isn't thrilled with his career choice (or how it chose him), but doesn't let other people's failings get to him and make him so angry and insulted?
I'm not saying you're a bad person. But it's like you think IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU. And really? It never is. Honest. When you think someone is doing something just to make you mad, or to purposely treat you like crap, most of the time they're just preoccupied with their own stuff and they don't intend to poop all over your day.
I suggest a variety of avenues that would give you the tools to recognize this pattern of behavior in yourself, such as education programs such as Landmark Education, or therapy, or talking with a trusted friend you can count on for honesty. Something like that. Because life is way too short to be miserable every time you don't get 100% perfect service.
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by dragonflygrrl Posted Fri April 21, 2006 @ 10:29 AM
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Copy and paste this baby into your browser!
http://www.planetfeedback.com/index.php?level2=blog_viewpost&topic_id= 284918&reply_id=16081#anchor16081
This is a letter written by Pernell which makes me feel the need to retract my earlier reply. The tone of the older letter is even more supercilious than that of the one at hand, and I think demonstrates that while people may in fact "discriminate," against Pernell, I don't in fact think it is due to his race.
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I knew...
by Venice Fri April 21, 2006 @ 3:54 PM
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Aw shucks!
by dragonflygrrl Mon April 24, 2006 @ 9:59 PM
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by Turbob Posted Thu April 20, 2006 @ 2:07 PM
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first - what is a "healthy compensation model "? Forgive me for being ignorant, but I am a simple receptionist. Second, it is people like you that make it hard for minorities in this county to get the respect they deserve. I have worked in the food industry before, and believe me, the ONLY color they care about the the green of your money. BTW - a tip for you - spell check - it comes with the computer program.
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by Gil3 Posted Thu April 20, 2006 @ 12:23 PM
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Pernell,
No disrespect here, but I see no connection between your so-called "poor experience" and your race. Also, why do you have to capitalize on your occupation and material possessions? You mentioned you received "impeccable" service. If this were racial as you claimed, then why would the staff provide you with such service if that were indeed the case? I can't stand people who LOOK for things to be offended about when such things are non-existent.
As one poster eloquently mentioned, this appears to be a self-entitlement issue, and not a racial one. I am a black male who dines out frequently alone and with my GF, and while I have received less than stellar service at some places (lets be honest, who hasn't, regardles of race?), I get treated extremely well for the most part, and don't cry racism because I wasn't seated right away or the server did not refill my glass or screwed up my order. I have seen this happen a few times, and it's EMBARASSING to say the least.
Too many people walk around with an overly inflated sense of self and an air of entitlement, then flip out at the smallest perceived slight when none was intended. The world does not revolve around you. Just enjoy life and get the chip off of your shoulder, please!
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by p d Posted Wed April 19, 2006 @ 10:36 PM
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Boy, if you thought you were being discriminated against there I hate to think what you'll be going through in Alabama.
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by Queen of Quite a Lot Posted Wed April 19, 2006 @ 10:30 PM
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I don't think you were being discriminated against. There could be many reasons for the hostess and waitress to discuss where to seat you. Perhaps there were not enough servers to take care of everyone in the main dining area. I find it troubling that you immediately became offended and assumed that you were being treated differently when there was no evidence to indicate that. I'm interested to know why this was the first thing to come to your mind.
Although you may not agree, you should have just stuck to the facts. If you were that bothered by the exchange between the hostess and the waitress, then surely you could have asked what they meant. Belaboring the point that you are successful (and you did belabor it) was unnecessary and made you sound pompous. I have a feeling the restaurant doesn't really care whether you drive a BMW or a Volkswagen Beetle.
Whether it's fair or not, you won't be taken seriously if you use incorrect capitalization and spelling--regardless of how successful you are. Proofreading *is* important because it shows the recipient that you care enough to pay attention to details.
Anita's comments about your capitalization and spelling were constructive criticism, nothing more and nothing less. They weren't an attack on you or on black people, and you shouldn't have assumed so. Further, calling her "white big shot" was uncalled for. You owe her an apology...
I'm mulatto, so I've dealt with my share of ignorance and prejudice. For your own sake, I hope you eventually understand that not every unpleasant thing that comes your way is a racial issue.
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by vc Posted Wed April 19, 2006 @ 8:45 PM
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For the OP to start calling anyone that disagreed with him a racist, or a bigot.
The OP can't distinguish his perception and reality. Unfortunately he thinks that his perception IS our reality. If he stepped in dog poop and someone said his shoes stunk I have no doubt that he would accuse them of saying all blacks smell. Just like when someone pointed out that he had some words spelled wrong and he accused the poster of say all blacks spell poorly.
I wasn't sure about the original complaint until I read his "race card" comments to the other posters. Now, I'm convinced that this man has deep self image issues. His big money job and his fine European car didn't impress anyone enough to get noticed, so he switched to being the guy being held down by the man. At least that way people will pay attention to him.
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by christa Posted Wed April 19, 2006 @ 2:10 PM
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The prestigious firm you work for needs a "service recovery effort" for hiring a "Director" who can't spell. P.S. White people also have bad experiences at restaurants. Your experience sounds like paradise compared to some of them I've had.
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by Jaclyn M Posted Tue April 18, 2006 @ 12:29 PM
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So did you end up sitting in the main dining room? If so, what is the problem? There could have been any number of reasons why the hostess wasn't sure about where to seat you - how do you KNOW that it was due to your race? Do you assume that every bad/strange event that happens to you is due to your race? If I go to a restaurant and I have a problem, should I automatically assume that it's because the restaurant is prejudiced against green-eyed brunettes?
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by Anita_New_Name Posted Tue April 18, 2006 @ 10:29 AM
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I am a 38-year old Caucasian single mother of two beautiful, loving Caucasian boys. I live in a middle-class neighborhood that I must work my tail off to afford. I drive a 2000 Toyota Camry that has seen every bodily fluid a child can deliver. My children's clothing comes from the local thrift store (HA! I got my son's practically new Tommy shirt for a quarter, what did you pay for yours?). When not dealing with work, school, homework, or my children's extracurricular activities, we work together as a family to make lunch boxes for our local soup kitchen which we deliver 3 4 times every week.
My experience is this. I needed to get my sons' hair cut. They wear their hair in the "flat-top" style. I wasn't in the neighborhood of their regular barber so I decided to go to a shop that was right there but I had never been there. When I walked through the door one would have thought a ghost walked through the door with me from the looks on all of the barber's faces. You see, they were all black. I asked for flat-tops for my sons and the response I received was "we don't cut white hair". My immediate response was not to scream "that's discrimination" (although we all know that white people can't be discriminated against, we can only be reverse discriminated against. What the heck does that mean anyway?), instead I responded with these exact words "That's all well and good sir, but you should have no problem cutting my sons' hair as neither of them have "white" hair, one is dirty blonde and the other is red, so the issue of "white" hair is mute". The barber giggled, I giggled and told the gentleman that I would go elsewhere, turned around and walked out. No feelings hurt, nothing lost. My day went on as normal.
The first moral of the story is that not everything stems from hatred. This barber didn't feel he could do a good job on my sons' hair and I appreciate his honesty. Perhaps if the hostess informed you of what was going on you wouldn't have been so quick to determine that you were being profiled but your assuming that was what was happening is unfair.
The second moral of the story is that my first paragraph lends absolutely no value to the specific experience I was describing. Sometimes a lot of information is good, IF that information is relevant. However, sometimes too much information is a bad thing and it takes away the credibility of the actual complaint. It shadows it, if you will.
Your assumptions are unfounded, you did not investigate to see why the hostess was making a determination as to where you should be seated, and you simply jumped on the "profiling" band wagon without so much as giving the hostess the benefit of the doubt. This, in my opinion, is you doing the same thing to the hostess that you feel she did to you, a sort of "profiling" in that you wouldn't have made the same assumption that the hostess was profiling if the hostess were black.
Good luck in your future endeavors, whatever they may be, but take a moment, step back and evaluate situations before you attempt to take away someone's livelihood. Oh, and if you would be so kind, stop bragging so much, it's very unbecoming of you.
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Thank you
by Anita_New_Name Wed April 19, 2006 @ 7:07 PM
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by Applejacker Posted Tue April 18, 2006 @ 2:11 AM
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"I am young and black, however, I am also a Director in a prestigious firm, with a healthy compensation model and a luxury european car in my driveway..." I'm sorry, but who gives a...... Your attitude is appalling, and your words sadly pathetic. Perhaps we should all bow down and sing the praise "We're not worthy, we're not worthy..." No one cares whether you are "black of Hispanic descent". In fact it is your elitist attitude that embarrasses both blacks and hispanics countrywide. Too sad.....
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by GayMafiaKingpin Posted Tue April 18, 2006 @ 12:30 AM
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There are any number of reasons why the hostess may have asked the waitress where to seat you. Certain areas are assigned to specific wait-staff. If one particular area has more people in it than another area, it is best to seat you in the lesser filled area. Even if there are only, say, two tables full in the main dining area, and only one filled in another area, to balance out the number of clients in the various areas, they may want to seat you where there are less people. This ensures that no one wait-person is loaded with all of the clients while another has little to do.
There may have been an issue in the main dining area that they wanted to be discreet about--someone having vomitted, or a huge spill, or another client making a scene--and didn't want to seat you in that area until the situation was cleared up.
In this day and age, I find it hard to believe that a staff member would ask if they should seat you elsewhere simply because you are black. It may be best to look at this sort of thing from a more objective perspective.
By the way, listing off all of your luxuries doesn't garner much sympathy from anyone. In all likelihood, the person who receives this letter is going to be put off by your showboating. This person will likely be less well-off than you and their gut reaction to your letter may be along the lines of a sarcastic "boo hoo". People are well aware that any nationality or race can be pretty well off. You are making the assumption that the individual reading your letter is going to assume that "black" equals "ghetto". That's not fair to the recipient, and even kind of shows your own prejudice.
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by Vayacondia Posted Tue April 18, 2006 @ 12:12 AM
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You can talk about all of your fine things, but you won't be very successful in life until you knock that gigantic chip on your shoulder. Are you so pampered you've never worked in restaurant service and thus don't realize the multitude of reasons why the lady may have been asking that question? PLEASE, we're talking about Troy, Michigan, not Hooterville, Kentucky. It's not like they've never seen a *gasp* black person before!
And by the way, prestigious, successful businesswomen should know the difference between "lose" and "loose", that "director" should not be capitalized in the instance that you are using it, and that "European" should always be capitalized. Just trying to help. Actually, I'm trying to save your "prestigious firm" some money, because GOD KNOWS that if they fire you, you'll cry discrimination for that too instead of coming to grips with your potential incompetence.
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by Retail G Posted Mon April 17, 2006 @ 5:11 PM
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Maybe they have a "No Arrogant, Full of themselves, Tries to Impress using multi-syllabic words but can't spell "lose", people will be seated in the Main Dining Room Policy. If so, they profiled you to a t.
Get over yourself.
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by Sarah Burgess Posted Mon April 17, 2006 @ 2:39 PM
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Why are you making this a race issue??? Unless the waiter or hostess said something about the color of your skin, you have no right to assume that they were being discriminatory. You are making assumptions and jumping to conclusions. Get the chip off your shoulder and stop trying to get innocent employees in trouble.
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Applause!
by tickytack Mon April 17, 2006 @ 3:58 PM
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by tickytack Posted Mon April 17, 2006 @ 12:19 PM
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What a braggart you are!
I doubt they were trying to decide where to seat you based on race - but from the tone of your letter I'd be willing to bet you just LOVE playing the race card.
Your position, salary, vehicle of choice, etc. have no place in this letter. Further, you were NOT denied seating in the main dining room. It could have been something as simple as "well the waitperson in the main dining room has a lot of tables but the waitperson in the other dining room doesn't, so maybe we should seat them there." You are presuming an awful lot, here.
Disciplinary action indeed - for an imagined slight?
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exactly!
by Alley Tue April 18, 2006 @ 11:18 AM
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by Peregrina Posted Sun April 16, 2006 @ 8:55 PM
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Did you ask them what was going on? Or did you just ASSume that they were referring to your race? If so, then you are 'profiled' them, making assumptions based on their skin color and/or race.
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by helmickr Posted Sun April 16, 2006 @ 8:43 PM
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I feel your pain...I weigh 440.25 pounds and every time I go to an all you can eat buffet, they call the owner who sticks me in a corner furthest from the food. After six or seven trips to the buffet bar, I am usually limping from the long treks. To add insult to injury, the wait staff begins snickering and making animal noises. After this Saturday nights "Meatloaf Bonanza", I am probably not going back to that dump again.
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by Alley Posted Sun April 16, 2006 @ 5:58 PM
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" but I am young and black, however, I am also a Director in a prestigious firm, with a healthy compensation model and a luxury european car in my driveway. ".. so your saying that if a couple were to come in.. say doesnt matter what race but looked like hillbillies and/or "trailor trash"... it would be ok if they had discriminated against them?.. just like this customer in my store one time... about mid 20's black man... the alarm went off when he walked out the door.. if a manager is near by.. they'll come up and look in the bag and see what it could have been that set off the alarm... well.. this guy thought they were discriminating.. so he came back with a camera and said he was gonna take pics of every person working and talk to his lawyer.. looking for a pathetic fight and some money that doesn't belong to you? i think so
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by SZ Posted Sun April 16, 2006 @ 2:36 PM
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Let me shed a little light for posters not familiar with the area of Troy MI where this restaurant is located. I live just a stone's throw away.
First, The Capital Grille is in a SHOPPING MALL, for Pete's sakes. Upscale, yes, but a shopping mall nonetheless. Perhaps some of you may have heard of the Somerset Collection? That's it.
Second, Troy is rated Michigan's second most diverse city. (Don't know which is first, unless it's Detroit.) On April 4th, one of the Middle schools held a 'Festival of Cultures,' which represented the different nationalities residing in our city. There were EIGHTEEN countries represented. Does that tell you a bit of the diversity of this area? (I'm glad I have a copy of a local throw-away newspaper that didn't make it to the dumpster yet so I could state these facts as printed.)
Troy is a city where on weekends and week days from 5p until 9a the next day, the population is 81,000. From 9a until 5p week days, our population expands to 125,000 due to the influx of employees from the surrounding suburbs and Detroit.
Mr. (snob) Pernell C., if you don't frequent the Capital Grille, it will be your loss, not theirs. If your 'luxury european car' is anything less than a Ferrari or Rolls Royce, it will be considered a 'second car' in Troy. Relocating to Birmingham? Understandable since a 'starter home' in Troy would be in the mid-to-high six figure bracket. I'm not in that category because I choose to live in an apartment.
I chuckled when one of the responders said the waitress wouldn't remember what color a person was, unless maybe green. I doubt if she'd even recall a green one. :)
This is an outright attempt to impress us with your affluence(?). But it doesn't fly. A freebie is a freebie is a freebie! For your future dining pleasure you may try some of our other restaurants, e.g., Ruth's Chris, Morton's, Don Shula Steakhouse, etc. After you receive your 'service recovery' from Capital Grille, I wish I'd know exactly when you go there to cash it in because I want to be sure I don't have to share my breathing air with you.
Profiling? My Aunt Fanny!
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WOW!!
by mary jo Sun April 16, 2006 @ 6:57 PM
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by lovescats Posted Sun April 16, 2006 @ 2:31 PM
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I have to agree with the rest who say this was probably not profiling simply a question of logistics as to where a customer should be seated. Actually I have had that happen to me and I am not African-American but a single middle-aged white woman. Believe it or not, people, especially women, dining alone are often given the worst seats in the house so if there is some controversy such as the situation in which you found yourself I always politely ask "Is there a problem?" That way you can be given a reason for the murmurings about where they want to seat you.
The fact that you believe that you should have special treatment because you have a professional job and drive an expensive car shows you have an entitlement issue based on economics, not race.
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Are you sure that's what she meant by the question?
Perhaps she was unsure of how busy the servers were, or if it was even the main room's turn. (Servers are generally seated by rotation) I know that at one restaurant I hostessed at, they would periodically shut down one room and seat in the other, in order to clean the carpet. So at some point, we would have to stop seating in the front room, and start seating in the side room, so they could use the shampooer. I sincerely hope that this is all a misunderstanding. I hope that the company in question does at least look into it, and may it be resolved to your satisfaction.
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by Happy1974 Posted Sat April 15, 2006 @ 7:57 PM
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The individual who asked several times about seating you in the main dining room should be the only one reprimanded IMO since it sounds as though the other person kept saying yes to her question.
Its sad really, that people are like that.
And, I really don't think the reactions of one individual should reflect on the whole restaurant. If you had an excellent experience (with that exception), then I think you should give it another try.
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by Mr. Mafia Posted Sat April 15, 2006 @ 3:14 PM
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I am not going to say that you are wrong here, you could be right. If you are it's kind of sad that in 2006 people still profile by race. However you should look at other possibilities as well. Maybe there was a good reason as to why the waitress asked that question. Were you around when the other people were seated, maybe they asked the same question for the Caucasian couples. I am guessing people must have treated you badly because of your race, and if this is the case, I am sorry that those past experiences would make you feel that way. However for you to say you were dressed better than the Caucasian's and talking about your car like that will make Captail Grill think that you think you deserve special treatment because of your lifestyle.
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I don't think they said this because you were black, she was just asking a question.
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by JustByLuck Posted Sat April 15, 2006 @ 12:21 PM
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I am not convinced any profiling had taken place, it seems this was more of a look at me letter, I have a big fancy car, important job where I am well paid, and I can use spell check. I say this because of using the word "loose" instead of the proper word "lose". I would hate my life if I went around wondering what people were saying about me, if I feel uncomfortable somewhere I usually will not go back, and never ask for the freebie's. Remember a good meal and great service is fantastic, seat me next to the kitchen door if you want, but let me eat in peace. I just don't have time for the nonsense, but I had to reply to this letter. I guess what I am trying to say,it is easy jump to conclusions without knowing the reason. Sounds as if you may be a little insecure, chill out and enjoy life.
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by Cass Posted Sat April 15, 2006 @ 10:27 AM
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Honestly, as I was reading this, I was thinking "someone is being a bit oversensitive". There could have been any number of reasons the hostess was asking whether you should be seated in the main dining room. Maybe there were a large party expected shortly, maybe there were a lot of reservations due. Then I thought, well, I have never been a target of racial profiling, so maybe I'm wrong.
Then you asked them to make a "service recovery effort" (i.e. "gimmee") and you lost all credibility.
I'm sorry if you've been discriminated against in the past, but making unjustified accusations in the hope of getting freebies is NOT the way to fight it.
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by JuliePie Posted Sat April 15, 2006 @ 10:02 AM
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I think you can relax. As someone who has worked in the restaurant industry for many years, this doesn't sound like a descision they were trying to make because of your race. There are so many other reasons for this question, as others have mentioned, such as server rotations, reservations, etc. That being said, I'm sorry if you have suffered descrimination in the past, and that it has caused you to be so suspicious. I do hope that the Capital Grille talks to the hostess to get to the bottom of this, so you can find out why she asked that question and to put your mind at ease. I am afraid, however, that since the question was most likely benign, that she won't even remember the incident. She probably won't remember if the people who came in were white, black, yellow or green (well, I'd hope she'd remeber green people coming in, LOL).
Now, I don't think it appropriate or meaningful in anyway for you to bring up your job, or what car you drive, or any of that. Does that mean it's OK to descriminate for other reasons? Does that mean that if you were a young black man with a blue collar job and a Chevy that it would be OK? Of course not. EVERYONE deserves to be treated equally. I think it looks bad to put that in your letter. You don't need to impress them, please don't feel like you have to.
I wish you luck, I'm sure you'll end up finding out this was really nothing.
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by koz Posted Sat April 15, 2006 @ 12:45 AM
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I once had a hostess that was confused over where to seat me and asked several employees what she should do ... turned out it was her first day on the job and wasn't sure if we should go in a certain section or not...Kinda curious...will you check with a relator when you move your business there? If so, will you be offended if they consult others in trying to find the best location for you? In a way that would be somewhat similar to this situation...best of luck to you but it sounds like you're already very healthy.
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Huh?
by EricMV Fri April 14, 2006 @ 11:24 PM
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by Venice Sat April 15, 2006 @ 12:09 AM
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am also a Director in a prestigious firm, with a healthy compensation model and a luxury european car in my driveway.
He's just trying to show off what he has.
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by mary jo Posted Sat April 15, 2006 @ 2:02 PM
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"I look forward to hearing from a representative from your establishment to discuss, and with all honesty, I hope you make a service recovery effort."
What do you think a "service recovery effort" is???
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by EricMV Posted Fri April 14, 2006 @ 11:08 PM
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This is a great letter - well written, sensible, and reasonable. While there is a small chance that there was some nonracial reason for the events during your seating, it's pretty unlikely. Anyone who has dined as a member of a visible minority has developed pretty good radar for this kind of behavior.
A fantastic read on this topic is the chapter called "My Dinner with Mister Charlie" in the book "Member of the Club" by Lawrence Otis Graham. I highly recommend it to anyone who thinks the OP may be blowing smoke with this complaint.
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by dragonflygrrl Posted Fri April 14, 2006 @ 10:40 PM
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It is always possible that the waitress was asking about where to seat you for any number of other reasons, but bottom line, if you felt uncomfortable or at all unwelcome at the Capital Grille for whatever reason, whether due to your race or not, you are perfectly justified in making that feeling known to them.
This letter is well written and makes your point in a clear way. I hope you hear back from them!
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by S. Brown Posted Fri April 14, 2006 @ 5:35 PM
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You have absolutely zero evidence or proof that this dining establishment was practicing what you precieved to be profiling. The statement "should I seat them in the main dining room" could have many meanings, including availability of wait staff, pending reservations for larger parties, wanting to hold larger tables/booths for parties of more than two, etc. Yes - - profiling could have been going on, but you have no evidence to support it. You instantly assumed that there was a question of wheher you would be allowed in the main dining room because of your race, despite, of course, your upscale attire which you claim was better than other Caucasions seated in the main dining room. You stated that the food was delicious and the service was impeccable, so your complaint boils down to a serious accusation based on a question asked by the hostess to the waitress.
You may be a "Director in a prestigious firm" with a "healthy compensation model" and a "luxury european car in your driveway", but you don't have any proof that profiling took place and unless you have further evidence to support your claim, I don't feel you are entitled to "a service recovery effort" (aka compensation) for this experience.
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