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PFB Forum Topic--The Use Of Cell Phones By Drivers
Posted Sat May 6, 2006, by Kevin S. written to Kalamazoo City Hall
And the debate rages on. Are cell phones a menace to the general public when in the hands of automobile drivers? Or is this just the nanny state in action once again? PLANETFEEDBACK USERS--STEP FORWARD AND BE HEARD!
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Cell phone use of drivers
Hooray for the city of Detroit! They are following New York City's path and banning the use of hand held cell phones while driving, or requiring the use of a hands-free device. The fine: $100. Way to go! Kalamazoo and all surrounding cities, the state of Michigan for that matter should do the same. Lets do it better. Second time $200, third time $500, fourth time lose driver's license for a period of time and fine for reckless driving. Hands-free devices only cost $20-$30 and well worth the one time fee vs traffic ticket for reckless driving. Do the right thing and pass a new law into the books. It might save a life.
Friday May 5, 2006 from 11:30 am to 12:00 noon at the intersection of Westnedge and Milham in Portage, Michigan I counted 57 drivers driving north using their cell phones. Potential in half and hour's time, $5,700 in fines paid to the county.
Pedestians are finding it hard also to cross the street safely because drivers using cell phones find it more important to talk on the phone than drive. Drivers must be so busy they can't drive safe using cell phones. Not a single phone call is worth a pedestrian/driver's injury, maiming or death. The day I see a driver on the cell phone, head kinked to the side, stuffing their face with food/drink, putting on make-up, reaching for a map, changing a baby's diaper, fastening a seatbelt, watching a dvd and giving directional hand signals is the day I go to the DMV to turn in my own driver's license. Wait, I think that day has come. Hello DMV?
Get the ball rolling and follow New York City and Detroit's path.
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by MA Loper Posted Fri May 12, 2006 @ 12:51 PM
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Hey Kevin,
Just FYI, NYC did not start the fine for hands free use with cell phones, it was started in Brooklyn, Ohio, which is right next to where I live. It's been in effect for at least 6-7 years.
But I agree with you 100% that more should be done to crack down. While hands free units help considerably, in that the driver is no longer fumbling with a cell phone in their hand, the truth of the matter is that talking on a cell phone while driving is dangerous PERIOD!!! There is no way you can properly pay attention to the road and your car when you are chatting away to someone on the phone. It's just too much of a distraction.
If the call were a TRUE emergency, that would be one thing, but I see so many people on their phones laughing and talking away - those can't POSSIBLY all be important, emergency calls that they HAD to take right then. Even if its an emergency call, though, you should still pull off the road.
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by Alexandra Posted Wed May 10, 2006 @ 6:28 PM
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I used to live in the Detroit area...one time I was there to visit my mother and this woman behind me nearly rear-ended me countless times (rush hour) because she was yapping away on the phone.
I agree--start fining people. I use a an earphone with my cellphone because I find it extremely hard to hold it to your ear and concentrate on driving at the same time!
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by djz Posted Tue May 9, 2006 @ 1:23 PM
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This should be a national law and should be enforced strictly with the use of red light camera's, at $100 a pop nothing more. We could get ride of toll boths in 5 years, but don't get me started on toll booths,lol.
I have two cell phones, on personal and one work. Both ring all the time, I use speaker phone, head set,or just pull over to avoid turning myself in yet another crappy driver on a phone. People in my area (richmond virginia) have a hard enough time driving when it it dry and sunny out, try adding a cell phone to the mix.
dan
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by Joseph W. Harrison Posted Tue May 9, 2006 @ 3:41 AM
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Is right now really the only time you will ever get to talk to that person!???Because of your cell phone, it was the last time I talked to my little one year old baby girl
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I guess next it will be illegal to drink a cup of coffee while driving.
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by ChrisMcD Posted Mon May 8, 2006 @ 4:31 PM
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Here in NJ it is state law that you can not talk on your phone while driving unless you are using one of those hand-free devices.... i cant tell you how many ppl STILL drive around with the phone stuck to their ear!!... the law is only as good as your local police dept or state troppers!!.. they are the one;s who should be enforcing the rule!!! .. unfortunatly i have yet to hear of someone who received a fine due to talking on their phone while driving!!
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by SZ Posted Mon May 8, 2006 @ 2:27 PM
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Only reason Detroit enacted this law is they have to put some more lipstick on that pig. It wore off since Super Bowl and they gotta get that $$$$ some way!
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by Cynical Erik Posted Mon May 8, 2006 @ 11:05 AM
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Maybe it's just the North Dakotan in me, but I try to be civil about it. When some yutz cuts me off without signaling because he's too busy yakking away on his phone, I do the neighborly thing and very calmly force him to the side of the road with my car, gently remove him from his car through the driver's side window, and then pleasantly beat him upside the head with his own cell phone.
If only everyone could be as peaceful as I am.
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I don't get the whole banning of the cell phones. I talk and drive all the time and I've never had any problems. I don't think the cell phones are the ones to blaim as much as the users.
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by tickytack Posted Mon May 8, 2006 @ 8:12 AM
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It's the entire STATE of New York - not just New York City.
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by Cubjunkie Posted Mon May 8, 2006 @ 2:06 AM
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There's only one group of people that have any excuse to be on a cellphone while driving. Doctors who are possibly giving instructions to personnel at a hospital or the like.
Of course the 2 doctors I know pull off to the side of the road if possible to make these calls so they can concentrate on what they're saying.
It can wait until you're off the road.
It's amazing. I think a lot of people under a certain age would have died 20 years ago. No cellphones or computers.
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I have driven while on a cell phone before and I can say that you DO get distracted. I try to keep it to a minimun or not at all. I was rear ended twice by a driver a couple of years ago when I was about 6-months pregnant. The driver didn't even have the courtesy to get off of the phone after it happened, to see if me and my friend was okay.I have also been run off of the road by another driver who was on his cell phone and was oblivious to everything around him. I would like to see a ban nationwide on drivers on cell phones. Also around here the police cannot stop someone on a cell phone unless that person has broken a driving law.
Also, I do drive around with my can loose in the car. She learned her lesson by not getting between the pedals and the floor. She got squeezed once when I had to brake and she hasn't been there since. She will sit on my lap or in the back seat. I have been doing this before I could drive by watching my mother. I do have a pet carrier and if the need arised, I would use it.
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by Brightie Posted Sun May 7, 2006 @ 7:36 PM
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Hee hee hee!
That chick talking on the phone, changing the radio station, adjusting the fan, yelling at her kids and reaching for the caffeine source in early morning traffic?? That'd be me. And I like to think I'm rather clever at it too...course, someday, a bad accident will probably prove me wrong. But I'm sayin', I haven't had an accident or even a traffic ticket in years....so I think I'm doing all right.
Besides which, does taking the phone away do so much? Especially if you can still use it with a speaker or a hands free device. You can still be fiddling with it to change ringers or answer the other line or dial a number or whatever. Take away the phone, and you still have makeup, drinks, seatbelts, radio knobs, dvds, hand signals, road rage, etc distracting drivers everywhere.
Bottom line is, I don't care if the ban talking on cell phones without a hands free device. I have speaker phone. I just don't think it's going to make that big a difference.
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Meow...
by Brightie Sun May 7, 2006 @ 7:40 PM
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by Brightie Posted Tue May 9, 2006 @ 12:26 PM
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Sometimes they're just in *really* bad shape, you know? YOu can't just stick them in a cage for 8 hours and hope for the best. Sometimes they need more attention than that. It *sucks*, but it's gotta be done.
The one rule I will say I NEVER break is having my kids in the back seat (not the front, thank you airbags!) and buckled in. We don't even take off until seat belts are fastened. One of my Kindergarten-age daughter's best friends was just recently killed...her mom was drinking and driving with Abby in the front seat, unbuckled, and hit a tree. Abby was thrown through the windshield and pretty much died on impact. Irealize if Abby's mom hadn't been drinking it wouldn't have happened at all, but if she'd even have had a seat belt on it probably would have saved her life.
I've become a bit of an activist about kids being restrained since then.
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Exactly!
by tickytack Mon May 8, 2006 @ 1:26 PM
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by Venice Posted Sun May 7, 2006 @ 2:22 AM
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It's not even debatable. Under no circumstances should cell phones be used while driving. It has caused enough deaths already. Considering people are selfish enough to eat, drink, primp, and do God knows what else behind the wheel, why give them the right to add cell phones to the mix. It takes every bit of a person's concentration to drive safely. There are enough distractions on the road beyond our control as it is, does it make sense to add one more? And the worst part is an innocent person could be the one to perish.
I am a firm believer in adults not being forced to wear seat belts. If you choose to risk your own life, that's your right. No other life is involved. Cell phones, on the other hand, put everyone at risk, and that is precisely why they should be banned while driving.
However, there is another more important part of the issue. I live in New York, and ever since the law went into effect, I have seen more people talking on cell phones while driving than I ever did before. What good is a law that is never enforced? The population of my village has been growing rapidly, and as a result, we are in need of several additional police officers. If offenders were fined, the money would easily pay the salaries of more officers.
So even if you succeed in getting a law passed banning hand-held cell phones, don't make the mistake of assuming it will be enforced. That's the bottom line.
By the way, I always choose to wear my seat belt, but I don't think anyone has the right to force me to do so.
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by Venice Sat May 13, 2006 @ 5:55 PM
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