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Nintendo lies to it's customers

Posted Sun September 24, 2006 12:00 pm, by Preston P. written to Nintendo of America, Inc.

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Nintendo does not live up to their word. There has been multiple examples of how they have disappointed their customers, but the latest example goes over the line.

If you play video games, you know by now that Nintendo has been working on a game called Zelda: Twilight Princess for the Nintendo Gamecube.

Well, the game has been delayed for almost 2 years now. Nintendo told Gamecube owners that the game would be only on the Gamecube. (LIE #1)Then at E3 2006 in May of 2006, they announce that the game is coming to their new console, the Wii as well, and both games will come out on the same day. (Lie #2) Now, on September 14th, we are told that the Gamecube version will not be out until 3 weeks AFTER the Wii version.

The game was supposed to be for the Gamecube owners! Now, we are forced to wait another month, because Nintendo wants to sell more Wii's?!

I am totally convinced that the Nintendo Gamecube was a throw-away console. The games that did come out for it sucked, or were trickled out at a snail's pace. A lot of the games were cancelled, and moved to the Wii. Nintendo's people admit to have been working on the Wii BEFORE the Gamecube came out, thus confirming my thoughts about the Gamecube being a throw-away console.

I would like Nintendo to start actually making a console that can compete with Sony and Microsoft, not some under-powered child's toy. I want to see 3rd party support, and some actual mainstream games. I don't want to be enticed with "innovative" gimmick controllers. I want an actual NEXT-GEN console.

I want Nintendo to get off their high-horse, and to STOP delaying games. Is it too much to ask that Nintendo meets one deadline?! I also want Nintendo to stop making statements that raise people's hopes and expectations, and then only disappoint us all later.


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by GryphonsKeeper Posted Tue September 26, 2006 @ 7:21 PM

you scare me.


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by Madlaro Posted Tue September 26, 2006 @ 3:57 PM

So, i guess this is a whine fest.

Let's review your 'statements' shall we?

Lie #1, Twilight Princess is actually on both the Wii and the
Gamecube. Where exactly is the bad news in this?

Lie #2, so the Gamecube version has been delayed even further.

If you got a Gamecube hoping to play TP, then wouldn't you get a Wii
to play it? Wouldn't you get a Wii in general for other games and for
the sake of loving Nintendo?

What you're doing is being overcritical and impatient; already bashing
the Wii before its initial release. That goes for TP too.

When they set deadlines, they aren't promises, they're goals they'd
like to achieve. You need to realize that stuff happens! There are
reasons as to why the game has been delayed.

Furthermore, I believe Twilight Princess is the only game to have been
delayed. Lighten us all, what other deadlines are they not meeting??

Don't go all gung-ho on everything else Nintendo does just because you
can't wait an extra three weeks for TP and/or because you're too lazy
to buy a Wii or already unimpressed with it.

Think about it. (Literally think)

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by Andrew Lenahan Posted Tue September 26, 2006 @ 10:16 AM

While it's certainly unfortunate that Nintendo has had to reverse its
earlier statements, I can certainly understand why they did so. See,
in the past, when an excellent game came out for a current-generation
console right at the moment a next-generation console was comming out,
the game tended to be overlooked, underbought, and underappreciated.
Just one example is "Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars" for
the SNES, which came out in 1995 when the Playstation was getting all
the press and attention.

I can't fault Nintendo for learning from its past mistakes: that's
what any smart company does if it wants to stay alive.

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by Venice Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 5:56 PM

Here's an opinion from a 15-year old (my son)... haha

I used to play the Zelda games, and I may not have a Gamecube now, but
I know I've seen this Zelda game on the 'coming soon shelf' at EB
Games FOREVER. I can't believe the idiots at Nintendo are waiting for
Wii to come out before releasing this game, just because they want it
to come out for Gamecube and Wii at the same time. I mean, I can
understand if they are having some problems with the game, but to wait
for Wii to come out so the Gamecube one can come out with it, sucks.
Zelda fans shouldn't have to wait for a whole new system to come out
before they cay get a game that was originally planned for just
Gamecube long before.

Plus, Gamecube should come out with more T-Rated games. Almost all of
their games are E-rated, and like 1 or 2 are rated M. That's why I
traded in my Gamecube for PS2.

COME OUT WITH BETTER GAMES NINTENDO!!!

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My Response by Dina E Tue September 26, 2006 @ 9:36 PM


He's sleeping... by Venice Tue September 26, 2006 @ 11:04 PM

ESRB Ratings by Dina E Thu September 28, 2006 @ 12:21 AM

by Wolf Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 4:31 PM

We own all three (PS2, X-Box and Gamecube. In addition to some
classic, Atari and Sega. Plus a few hand helds.) here is what we have
figured out:

The X-Box is for ADULTS. Look at the games they have. Most are
geared to the 20+ crowed. (Yes I know younger kids play them. Their
parents buy them. But that is another issue)

The PS2 is geared for 10 and above. Again, look at the games.

The Gamecube is geared for UNDER 10. Look at the games and the size
of the controller. The contoller is smaller and fits in a child's
hand better.

There are many reasons games are delayed. Most times, there are a lot
of bugs that they want to work out first.
Would you rather have a Buggy game (Like most of the X-Box 360 are)?
Or wait a bit longer and get a game that works? The World wont end if
you don't get you game when you want it.

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Well put by Starlight22203 Mon September 25, 2006 @ 6:36 PM


Buggy Games by Chris M Tue September 26, 2006 @ 7:35 AM

by dragonflygrrl Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 1:31 PM

Man, I feel your pain on the delay of this game! I reserved a copy
for GameCube so long ago that I'm sitting here doing that
stare-off-into-space thing trying to remember how long ago it was.
Since then, every time GameStop has called it has been either for some
other, less exciting game I've reserved or to tell me that yes,
Twilight Princess has been delayed again. *shoulders slump, looks
dejected* I also was worried to see the number of games originally
intended for GC defecting over to the Wii.

That said, I don't think that the GameCube is by any means a
"throw-away" console or an "under-powered child's toy." I bought mine
when they were bundled with the Legend of Zelda collector's edition
(all the Zelda games on one disk), and considered it a bargain for
$99, even if they never made another game for it. And they did make
some great games for it! Time and again I find myself getting out
those silly looking cartoon controllers to play Wind Waker, or Animal
Crossing. And when I want my fix of freaky ****, I get out Eternal
Darkness: Sanity's Requiem or Hunter: The Reckoning, easily among the
top five horror survival games in my (embarassingly large) collection.
Besides all that, the Mario franchise is maybe the most light-hearted
fun in gaming history! I can't tell you how many drunken evenings of
MarioParty my friends and I have spent. (I know, I know, I'm a
geek.)

It certainly does seem that Nintendo is putting more effort into
developing new games for the Wii than in getting me my Zelda fix, but
isn't that really to be expected? With any luck, if they can put
enough thought into creating both the new console and Twilight
Princess, they will both be something truly amazing.

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by MA Loper Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 10:53 AM

I guess I'm not sure why you haven't figured this out yet.

If you were a gamer from way back like I was (Atari, Coleco, etc.)
you'll remember that the Nintendo games were about Mario, Donkey Kong,
Zelda, etc. They were mostly role playing and fantasy games. But
they were marketed to all the major platforms.

Then, as Nintendo realized they could make more money licensing their
game characters to games in a line that was ONLY for Nintendo, the
NES, SNES and N64 were born.

Likewise, Sony and Micorsoft now market THEIR games to THEIR machines.
It is all a monopoly to make more money.

Everything the companies do is in their own interest. If they are
holding back games, it is likely because they think they will make
more money and generate more interest that way. They didn't lie to
you, they just chose to strategically change their mind. They don't
make any money caring what their customers think and you won't change
that fact with this letter.

Look at how many times Nintendo has released a "new" platform over the
past 10 years. Every time you get used to one system, they bring out
a new system that is supposedly better and only release new games for
that. It basically forces you to upgrade (and thus generates them
more money) every few years whether you want to or not.

My advice if this truly bothers you this much is to consider sticking
with the Sony or Microsoft platforms if you disagree so strongly with
Nintendo's practices.

(and FYI, I'd be more irritated with XBox, personally. It's the ONLY
platform I don;t have in my house and I will not permit it because I
don't like Bill Gates' practices. That is the ONLY way you are going
to be able to truly get your message across to a company is by hitting
them where it hurts - their bank account!)

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by Quasi_Mondo Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 9:19 AM

I have a Gamecube and for me, it's the best system out there. I'm not
a hardcore gamer and I LOVE the Zelda series (with the exception of
Majora's Mask - couldn't stand that one), so it was a no-brainer which
gaming system I'd eventually invest in.
Nintendo has a deserved reputation for producing quality games and if
it take them a little longer to put out something as awesome as I
expect ZELDA:TWILIGHT PRINCESS to be, hey, I'm all for it. It sucks to
wait, but that's life.
And considering how expensive the next-gen systems are, I won't be
buying into any new video game technology for a good long while, if
ever. I'd rather spend that $300 - $400 on DVDs.

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by Starlight22203 Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 12:56 AM

I currently have a Xbox, PS2 and a GameCube. Between my husband and
I, we have had a NES, SNES, N64, PS1, DreamCast, Old School Sony
consoles (they are escaping my mind right now...) Atari... almost
every system to be honest with you All of the gaming systems have had
games delayed. It comes with the technology. They can't release a
game if there are significant glitches and they can't truly
guesstimate when those glitches will all be worked out. The R&D for a
video game is enormous and it is a long process.

And I would like to point out that Nintendo is notorious for having
family friendly systems and games. They always have been. That is
their thing. And it works enough for them. They could step up and
create systems like the Xbox and the Playstation but then they would
lose parts of their target market... the young ones. If it wasn't for
Nintendo (stricking when we were young), many people wouldn't have the
passion for video games that they have now. In my opinion.

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I agree by Lisa Smith Mon September 25, 2006 @ 11:30 AM

by Prefect Zachary Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 12:24 AM

Zelda games are cool, that and some of the Mario games.

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by koz Posted Sun September 24, 2006 @ 11:43 PM

Get off your mom's couch and out of the basement - get a job and buy
the company - maybe you can manage it better -

sincerely -

Satoru Iwata, President, Nintendo Co., Ltd

P.S. - The process of creating video games is a very complicated one,
involving years of development by engineers, artists, creative
designers, etc. In addition, the detailed programming for today's 3D
games requires extensive testing.

Our goal is to meet projected release dates for games, but sometimes
we have to alter our plans to ensure the game quality you expect from
us is met. We'd rather delay the release of a game than have you
purchase a game that doesn't meet your expectations. Also, most games
are created and developed by our engineers in Japan, and the process
of translating games from Japanese versions to their American
counterparts is lengthy and complicated.

Though they are subject to change, the dates we publish in Nintendo
Power magazine and on our website represent the most accurate dates
available at press time.


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I just have a question by Iconophiliac Mon September 25, 2006 @ 12:17 AM


Or... by Iconophiliac Mon September 25, 2006 @ 12:17 AM

by Gino Version 1.2 Posted Sun September 24, 2006 @ 10:06 PM

The time to research these things is way before purchasing a console.
It's a shame so many people jump on the wrong bandwagon time and time
again and expect the company to make games for somththing they are
"totally convinced that Nintendo Gamecube was a throw away console" It
may well WAS. So something new and better came along that sells much
better...why waste R&D money on a game for an outdated system.
It's a dog eat dog competitive environment... one company blinks one
too many times and they lose!!!

Just the way things are...

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by mary jo Posted Sun September 24, 2006 @ 9:34 PM

Man! You "gamers" are serious about this stuff arent you? LOL!

Its ONLY a VIDEO GAME! It isnt the end of the world. I thought by now
that EVERYONE knew that no matter what kind of electronics you buy a
newer and better one is on its way down the line while you are check
out.

Thats how it goes. Such is life.

Maybe the best idea would be to forget the video games and go out and
do something productive with your time.

And dont take your video games so seriously!

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P.S. by mary jo Sun September 24, 2006 @ 9:42 PM


Don't be so quick to judge... by Quasi_Mondo Mon September 25, 2006 @ 10:30 AM


I didnt say the issue wasnt valid by mary jo Mon September 25, 2006 @ 5:00 PM


The point on games..... by Wolf Mon September 25, 2006 @ 7:23 PM

by Iconophiliac Posted Sun September 24, 2006 @ 9:27 PM

Don't listen to the haters!

Understand though, there is rarely a game that has come out on time,
even for other consoles like the Xbox and PS2. A lot of games I was
anticipating have been delayed. Just think of it in a way that they
are working harder on the game and it'll be less buggy and higher
quality, which are definitely things worth waiting for.

The Wii is supposed to kick butt and although I think I will still be
supporting the rumoured-expensive PS3, I would definitely still look
into getting a Wii.

Don't think the Gamecube is a throw-away console. The Gamecube as it
is is still awesome. I have one and although school tends to get in
the way, there are still plenty of great games to play.

Also don't forget the Wii will be backwards compatible all the way to
the NES!

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Re: Nintendo lies to it's customers by Brennie Sun September 24, 2006 @ 5:36 PM


Thanks for the chuckle, Brennie! n/t by RedheadWGlasses Sun September 24, 2006 @ 6:40 PM

you sir, are wrong. by preston181 Sun September 24, 2006 @ 7:15 PM


If you're so unhappy with Nintendo by RedheadWGlasses Sun September 24, 2006 @ 8:17 PM


No offence but by Iconophiliac Sun September 24, 2006 @ 9:24 PM


I used to be by RedheadWGlasses Sun September 24, 2006 @ 9:25 PM


OH for sure by Iconophiliac Sun September 24, 2006 @ 9:38 PM


OH and, by Iconophiliac Sun September 24, 2006 @ 9:48 PM

by RedheadWGlasses Posted Sun September 24, 2006 @ 10:19 PM

I'm twice your age almost! :) I went to a party a few years ago where
they had the old-style Atari set up! It was such a blast to play
TANKS again!

And I agree with your point about the game may be delayed as they work
out bugs in the system. Don't we have to assume that Nintendo will
release the game as soon as possible? I bet Nintendo isn't thrilled
at the delay either, as they're losing potential revenue.

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by Iconophiliac Posted Sun September 24, 2006 @ 10:24 PM

And it's not even like it's only nintendo.. every console has had a
lot of delayed games. It's just the way things work.

I'll be crossing my fingers for the release of the WOW expansion, but
I won't be holding my breath...

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Ok first of all by Brennie Sun September 24, 2006 @ 10:32 PM




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