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Rude cashier and manager
Posted Wed September 27, 2006 1:35 pm, by wendy l. written to Home Depot, Inc.
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The other night I went to home depot and purchased six pieces of wonderboard and ceramic tiles to redo my kitchen floor. When I got to my car, I realized one of the pieces was a different size than the rest and went right back in the store to return it. The cashier had scanned the top piece 6x, therefore the one that was different did not show on the receipt. I explained this to the cashier (Olivia is her name) and she was saying well I don't know what I can do because it's not on the reciept. She went to speak to a manager (Luis Bruce) and they were speaking for a while. I then asked to speak to him, and she came over and said he doesn't want to come over. Another employee came over and I again repeated that I wanted to speak to that manager and she said again to this employee, "I told him, and he doesn't want to come talk to them." Finally the line manager came over and called over the cashier who had originally helped us and the issue was resolved.
I walked outside to where my husband was waiting with my kids in the car, and explained to him what happened, and my husband went inside and asked to speak to Luis. He told him "my wife and mother in law were just here, and my wife says you refused to help her." He denied it, and as I walked in told my husband that never happened. I said to him of course it happened, I said I wanted to speak to you and you didn't come over. Even the cashier said it. And the cashier started saying "I never said that!!" So at this point I'm even being called a liar!!!
I would like to see both these employees reprimanded. The cashier kept giving me an attitude because the purchase was not on my reciept, even after I'm explaining to her why it wouldn't be. I wouldn't expect anyone to remove over 100 sq ft of ceramic tile to scan a few pieces of boards.
And as far as the manager, I don't think that as a manager he can refuse to speak to any customer that is asking to speak directly to him. He looked over at us and refused to help us!
I would like to know how Home Depot dealt with this issue.
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by TheFutureMrsDragonflygrrl Posted Fri September 29, 2006 @ 3:42 PM
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Let me come at this from a slightly different angle, by sharing some episodes from my own customer service experience. The other day, I got a phone call from a customer. She immediately demanded to speak to our owner. I asked what this was in regard to, and was told that was "none of my concern." When I had made it clear that he would probably not take a call without knowing at least who the caller was and a brief description of the problem, I was grudgingly told that the problem was something that a) had nothing to do with our owner specifically, and b) was easily fixed by me. If I had made our owner stop what he was doing and come over, I would have wasted his time, my time, and the customer's time. Even less of the customer's time could have been wasted, if she had just communicated the problem to me immediately.
Another scenario happened at Budget constantly. A customer would return a car and want a discount for a problem with the rental. I could physically enter in a discount, but had to have manager's approval to do so. So, I would smile and excuse myself to talk to the manager. The manager would approve the discount, I would come back to the front to apply the discount, and the customer would then want to talk the manager. Our managers, like HD's I'm sure, did many other things other than deal with customer service issues, so often they just didn't have time to come out and deal personally with a customer, especially when the problem had been resolved.
I think what happened in this case was that Luis told Olivia how to handle the problem, and didn't have time to go discuss it further with Wendy. The problem was less with Luis than with Olivia's relaying of the message. Probably Luis said something like, "Go do this and this to fix it, and tell her we're sorry for the inconvenience, but I have to do payroll/paperwork/scheduling/administrative stuff and can't come talk to her." What Olivia then should have done was to come back and say, "Ok, I've talked to my manager. He is right in the middle of someting and can't come out, but instructed me on how exactly to resolve this. If you have further questions, here is his card." (That is a little speech I've been polishing lo these many years in customer service, and it rarely fails me.)
I'm not saying Wendy was wrong, although she did carry the whole thing a bit farther than I probably would have. Of course, having worked in retail, I understand that if you don't really need the manager you are really just wasting your time by demanding one. I realize that people's first instinct when they encounter a problem is to get a manager, but they really aren't necessary for most issues, except to give an employee direction or permission. Once that is done, they generally have no further need to be there.
Of course, I could be completely wrong and off base. Heaven and I both know that there are some truly bad managers out there that let their employees take the heat and refuse to help. Heaven and I both know that I've had them too. If that is the case, I hope Luis is corrected. I don't know that Wendy needs to be informed of how this is dealt with, but it should probably be dealt with if Luis truly is falling down on the job.
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by Marty5223 Posted Fri September 29, 2006 @ 11:32 AM
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I believe the manager would not come over. Reason I have experienced the same thing in Home Depot. The managers hide off the floor and refuse to come out. I was a store manager for years and I cannot imagine ever refusing to speak with a customer that had requested to speak with me.
I even suspected that perhaps this had been some type of directional training from Home Depot. A good friend of mine in NYC related a very similar story with a manager refusing to speak with him at his neighborhood store.
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by Alley Posted Thu September 28, 2006 @ 4:20 PM
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i remember a time at work.. a lady wanted to return something, and it was a binder or something.. but the only thing that was on the receipt was something from the copy center. I told her this and she said the girl rung it that way cuz there werent any more like that. So i called the manager over to verify.. and luckily he was there that night. but yea.. its a pain in the rear.
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Because really, that's all you want: to know that they aren't going to ignore blatant rudeness and will speak with the manager.
Good luck!
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by MA Loper Posted Thu September 28, 2006 @ 10:30 AM
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The cashier was TOTALLY at fault for this - she should know that regardless of whether it is quicker for her, she is supposed to touch EACH item you have and scan it for this exact reason.
Sounds to me like she was trying to cover her backside because she failed to follow procedure!
But bottom line, I am guessing a wonderboard would not be a small item, certainly not something you could have accidentally walked out with or tried to fraudulently returned. It should have been obvious it was a mistake.
Since it was her fault, I'm surprised she didn't just tell you to get the right one that matched your receipt and been done with it. That should have been a relatively easy fix.
But I get the feeling that there are holes in this letter and I have a suspicion some info is missing here - either this cashier lied to the mgr. and that's why he never came over or there is something that the OP is not fessing up to that caused the staff to behave so strangely - I'm just not sure which it is.
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by tickytack Posted Thu September 28, 2006 @ 1:26 PM
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Though the OP does say in her letter that she was okay with the cashier scanning the same one six times, as they were heavy.
But I agree - if the manager wouldn't deal with her (not sure I totally buy that, but, for the sake of argument...), he was wrong.
HOWEVER, I do think there are holes here, and I do think there was no need for her husband to have pressed the issue.
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by ChrisMcD Posted Thu September 28, 2006 @ 4:06 PM
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wonderboard is heavy... its comes in 3ft x 5 ft sheets usually 1/2 thick and its made of concrete.. its used for bathroom or kitchen walls or where ever your putting tile... i hated lifting wonderboard when i worked for HD and i used to do the same thing the cashier did.... if the customer had 6, i zapped it 6 times....
now about the mgrs.... most of HD mgrs suck anymore... (speacking from experience...worked for HD for over 7 yrs)... they have absolutly no customer service skills.. they dont even have the skills to talk to their employees correctly....
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by p d Posted Thu September 28, 2006 @ 11:51 PM
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Sounds to me like she was trying to cover her backside because she failed to follow procedure!
Do you mean Olivia? If so, she wasn't the one who rang up the poster.
The one who rang her up is the one who got it straighened out. She came over and explained what happened.
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by TattleTale Posted Thu September 28, 2006 @ 1:50 AM
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I disagree with these posters. This situation wasn't fully resolved if the manager did not get reprimanded for refusing to speak to the employee. If this were to happen to me, I would not be finished until his boss had the opportunity to hear about his employees carelessness.
Now, she could have handled it herself, but the fact that her husband did it doesn't mean she was lesser because she was a woman. It simply means that while she was throwing up her hands at that moment, and perhaps choosing to deal with it by phone or mail later, he insisted on handling it at that moment.
This doesn't just happen between husband and wife, I've had my friend step in for me before when I felt too frustrated to handle the situation calmly anymore, but she refused to see a store employee get away with treating me badly. I was glad she did, because at that moment, it needed to be brought to his managers attention but I was far too angry to deal with it.
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Thing is
by tickytack Thu September 28, 2006 @ 1:45 PM
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by p d Posted Wed September 27, 2006 @ 11:14 PM
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I can understand you telling your husband about the way you were treated and I can understand his anger over it but he had no business getting involved since he wasn't in the first place. And it was done and over with.
Your husband just made things worse.
I do have to say though that your letter is well written.
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by Firebrat Tracy Posted Wed September 27, 2006 @ 3:16 PM
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You know, when I first read the letter, I must have skimmed over the part where you said it had been resolved before you went and told hubby. Therefore, I was completely in agreement with you, right until the end.
Then I read ticky and Zachs comments, and went back to re-read.
As a woman, this makes me angry on several levels. The fact that you resolved the situation, and then felt the need to go complain further to your husband, is what gives certain people the false impression that women are helpless. I don't blame you for being upset. I don't even blane you for telling your husband about it. But the fact that you didn't stop him from going back into the store on your behalf, really gets me.
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Me, too.
by tickytack Wed September 27, 2006 @ 3:31 PM
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But....
by Ree Wed September 27, 2006 @ 5:59 PM
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LOL
by Ree Wed September 27, 2006 @ 9:23 PM
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Why did your husband need to speak to Luis when you were the one shopping, can't you fight your own battles, plus you got the problem resolved so it was over. No need for your husband to go in there unless he wanted to make a scene or cause problems.
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by tickytack Posted Wed September 27, 2006 @ 2:35 PM
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You had already rectified the situation; I see no reason for your husband to have gone in as well. Can't you fight your own battles? Especially those that have already been won?
I was with you, by the way, until that "I want these employees reprimanded" comment. Do you honestly think corporate is just going to take you at your word and not talk to them (if they even bother).
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a response from Home Depot, either.
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