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by Dark Helmet Posted Wed November 8, 2006 @ 8:28 PM
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First of all, the logo at the top of the page is wrong. Verizon Wireless is a different company from Verizon, and does not sell long distance calling cards. I suspect the figure is a bit inflated, to say the least. Verizon has an 800 number, so calls to them cost nothing. Calling and faxing hotels in Australia might be a bit, but $400? Plus the writer could have used a calling card to call the hotels
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Ok first ever post and i'll probably sign up after this.
If you take aay the emotion involved and teh age etc etc etc isnt the cut and dry fact that the OP purchased goods and services fom a company and then in return did NOT get the service she aid for. She then had to do unnecessary work to get the service she had already paid for. as someone above stated 400$ is not a reasonable request for compensation BUT an apology is the least they owe her.
off to set up an account.....
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by Jeffrey Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 4:42 PM
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At the risk of extending this further...
Several folks have questioned why Vicki sent her child to another hemisphere with only a phone card.
Unless I've missed something, the child was able to get in touch with her mother. Or else, how would Vicki know to call Verizon?
If I hadn't heard from my child in (whatever time period), my first call wouldn't be the phone company. It'd be to whoever was supposed to meet my child.
Which, in the end, means that there were alternate communication routes between child and parents. At some point, the child is able to communicate with mom to say "my phone card doesn't work."
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by Matt Jones Posted Thu October 26, 2006 @ 10:29 PM
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Over the top. What instructions did you give your kid before she left on contacting you in an emergency ala the cell phone not working in a foriegn country(reality is it has never been and never will be a perfect technology ESPECIALLY in a foriegn country)?- Didn't have one, bad parenting.
Verizon made a mistake not activating her card, you made a mistake by not testing it with a 1 minute call before she left, bad parenting again.
If you are so sick with grief, why allow this child to go to Australia without a PARENT (you) with the only means of communication a PREPAID CELL PHONE if any failure would be the end of your world? How about a small limit credit card for making an overseas credit card call? Didn't think of it?-Bad parenting.
What would you have done in the 90's before prepaid cell phones?
What if she had dropped the cell phone and broke it, what would you do then and what was your plan with her in case that happened and there was no one else to blame? Evidently you did not have a plan, bad parenting.
I am guessing at some point she checked into a hotel and you could have called her at her room number (as I am sure you had all of the information for hotel, flight arrival times, room number, itinerary) when you did not hear from her and saved money and grief.
It sounds to me like you did not plan for anything. If Verizon apologizes to you, it will not mean anything or change anything. Also, why 3 pages to the President to say "Daughter in Australia, I was worried, Prepaid didn't work,card not activated, not happy"?-Answer, over the top.
You also wonder why customer service does not go the extra mile. The answer is the customers. CSRs cannot win. A customer will tell you how great you were and then come in a week later and tell another employee you promised a ridiculous credit forcing you to defend yourself while the customer laughs and says, "hey, I tried". They will be more than happy get you fired by making telling lies so that you can't pay rent, just so they can scam a $3 credit. They will assume you know nothing about your product because they do not like the answers you give- as they already knew the answers anyway.
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Plus...
by Lisa B Mon October 30, 2006 @ 12:59 PM
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Strong
by Matt Jones Wed November 1, 2006 @ 6:08 PM
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I agree
by Lisa B Thu November 2, 2006 @ 11:04 AM
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I agree
by mycamelman Fri November 3, 2006 @ 10:19 AM
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ha
by Matt Jones Thu November 9, 2006 @ 1:49 PM
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Re: ha
by Lisa B Tue November 14, 2006 @ 1:07 PM
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Strong
by mycamelman Fri November 3, 2006 @ 10:22 AM
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Plus...
by mycamelman Fri November 3, 2006 @ 10:17 AM
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by Daniela E Posted Thu October 19, 2006 @ 11:39 PM
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I can't read them all, I just hope you know that I can feel your pain and I'm glad for you that everything was in fact OK, other than you and your daughter being upset of course.
I think that there are really a lot of good comments on here on what you could have done, should have done, might have done, etc. BUT they are useless to you regarding this case because they come AFTER the fact.
However, THANK YOU so much for posting this fiasco so that I will never trust a calling card and will test it. Thank you to the people who suggested contacting the hotel/chaparone people via email. I seriously doubt in a state of angst that I would have thought about that. I also can better prepare my child to remember they can contact ME via email. I will have several phone numbers to contact my kids also, so if they don't get in touch w/me, I can still get in touch with them.
I will have back up plans for contact as well in case email access is impossible.
I don't think people who trivialize this event have young kids, or maybe they aren't control freaks who need to know what's going on with their kids all the time to make sure that they are being well cared for and not getting into trouble. I don't mind being a control freak about this. If you want to criticize it, go ahead. I have no interest in changing. I feel this is the best way for me to maintain a degree of safety for my children. I am always watching/listening and I want them to know that.
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Bravo
by mycamelman Fri October 20, 2006 @ 10:11 AM
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Thank You!
by mycamelman Mon October 23, 2006 @ 10:37 AM
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Hey!
by mycamelman Mon October 23, 2006 @ 10:44 AM
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Than what?
by mycamelman Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:08 AM
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What about?
by mycamelman Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:08 AM
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Hey!
by mycamelman Fri November 3, 2006 @ 10:24 AM
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by SueNY Posted Thu October 19, 2006 @ 4:16 PM
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Odd...
I've read this whole thing and you basically ignored every question asked of you in favor of ranting more about Verizon. That's rude-and ignoring questions keeps people from being able to help you further. Best of luck getting this resolved with Verizon. I agree with the other posters who said you are a bit too melodramatic. Hope your daughter had a fun trip!
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But if...
by Jeffrey Fri October 20, 2006 @ 11:35 AM
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But if,
by mycamelman Fri October 20, 2006 @ 12:12 PM
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Exactly!
by Jeffrey Thu November 2, 2006 @ 4:44 PM
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Thanks.
by Jeffrey Fri October 20, 2006 @ 3:21 PM
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Thanks.
by mycamelman Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:15 AM
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I agree
by JuliePie Mon October 23, 2006 @ 8:43 AM
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I agree
by mycamelman Mon October 23, 2006 @ 11:00 AM
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by vc Posted Wed October 18, 2006 @ 6:58 PM
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I feel bad for both you and your daughter. I hope she enjoyed the rest of the trip.
If you're not aware, you can fax right from your computer and save yourself lots of money. If you have Word anyway. After you type a letter, you can do a "File" then "Send To" and it will give you couple of choices for faxing. It even sets up a cover sheet for you. Anyway, hope it doesn't come to that in the future.
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by JuliePie Posted Wed October 18, 2006 @ 5:38 PM
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I can understand you being very angry and frustrated at Verizon, but I must say, a lot of the responsibility lies with your daughter's chaperone. I'm pretty sure if I was responsible for a pre-teen in a country half-way around the world, I would at least buy her a new calling card and just let her parents pay me back when we got home.
That's just scary that someone would let your daughter get that upset when all they had to do was buy her a new phone card.
I hope in addition to this letter, you also write one to the school/youth group or whatever.
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by Leah T Posted Wed October 18, 2006 @ 4:16 PM
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actually, in my personal opinion, if i bought a calling card for my child(which hasn't come yet...four more months though!) and then it didn't work, yeah...i would probably get pretty upset.
did you buy the card from a store? if so, then chances are, it could have been the cashiers fault. maybe she overlooked it, and did't activate it. if you bought it from online through the website, then there should have been no reason for it not to be activated.
i actually bought a gift card from hot topic online and it got sent unactivated. totally different sernario though.
if your daughter is ever planning on being so far apart again, i would suggest buying a phone card, and then trying it out at home before she leaves. this way, if there is ANY problem, it can be fixed before shes so far away.
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by S W Posted Tue October 17, 2006 @ 3:17 PM
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You have got to be kidding me!
You've turned a minor travel glitch into quite the drama. Whatever happened to common sense. I say this with the assumption that your daugher is escorted by responsible adults, was being cared for, and was quite safe. So the card doesn't work, move to the next solution. Leave a message at her hotel to have someone help her call home. Get in touch with the adult supervision she is with and get their help in fixing the situation. (I assume you didn't let your daughter go to Australia with no way to contact her escorts.) My goodness, how hard can this possibly be?!
Verizon may have given you the run around, but you chose to fight with them rather than taking a simpler route and simply contacting your daughter at the hotel in the evening hours (what a concept!) to give her the new card number or contacting the adult escorts and asking them to help purchase a card locally. If the escorts have half a brain they certainly can keep an 11 year old calm and explain the problem with the card and help her place an international call to you.
There simply was no need for you to go off the deep end here. You could have simply chosen another solution and fought with Verizon for a refund of the "bad" card locally without faxing Australia and spending all of that time, money, and aggravation.
Your inability to deal with a minor emergency is not Verizon's problem. If this is the way you handle one of life's minor glitches I shudder to think how you would handle a real crisis.
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No Choice
by mycamelman Mon October 23, 2006 @ 11:04 AM
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I agree with this...
by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Thu October 19, 2006 @ 7:07 AM
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personally
by mycamelman Thu October 19, 2006 @ 2:28 PM
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Lawyer talk
by mycamelman Fri October 20, 2006 @ 10:44 AM
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personally
by mycamelman Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:20 AM
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I am not
by mycamelman Thu October 19, 2006 @ 2:33 PM
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well said
by Daniela E Thu October 19, 2006 @ 11:28 PM
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Response
by nwahsnwahs018 Thu October 19, 2006 @ 11:18 AM
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Thanks
by mycamelman Thu October 19, 2006 @ 2:46 PM
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YEP
by mycamelman Fri October 20, 2006 @ 10:27 AM
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by Richard S. Posted Tue October 17, 2006 @ 10:29 AM
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I am sorry to hear about your troubles. However I do not place all the blame on Verizon. You sent your 11 year old daughter half way around the world. Was she staying with relatives, was she on a class trip? I find it hard to imagine you sent an 11 year old to Australia all by herself with no adult supervision. While she was in Australia she had no other way to contact you. other than this calling card? Did she not remember her home phone number? Did you not know where your daughter was staying or had a phone number to contatct her in case of an emergency. It appears that you knew what hotel she was at.
After realizing the phone card was not activated, your daughter could have called you at home explained the card was not working. Then you should have called Verizon and worked it out with them. Once Verizon activated the card, you should have been able to contact your daughter. How does a few phone calls to Australia add up to $400 in phone calls.
While I feel your pain, there is something that just doesnt add up with this letter. If your daughter was 16 or 17 years old, I might find your letter more believable. However I just can not get past the part where you would send your 11 year old half way around the world not knowing where she was going to be.
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by mycamelman Wed October 18, 2006 @ 12:42 PM
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Banrion...
by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Wed October 18, 2006 @ 5:01 PM
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by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Posted Mon October 16, 2006 @ 8:07 PM
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It's horrible not being able to contact your child who is thousands of miles away! It's hard enough when they are in the same city and you can't contact them! My stepson and his mother went to Punta Cana. Well she was supposed to give my husband all the contact information before she left and didn't. I was freaking out the entire time he was gone. To make matters worse there was a small aircraft crash somewhere off the coast of Florida. I was beside myself with worry.
My advice, like the advice before mine. Always make sure you check a calling card to see if it's activated. Calling cards are very important in case of emergencies and you want to be sure that when you need it, it's there.
I hope that Verizon atleast has the cajones to apoligize and offer you SOMETHING.
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by mycamelman Posted Wed October 18, 2006 @ 12:31 PM
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I was fit to be tied. I was so helpless, and then to be on the phone with IDIOTS, for 3 hours, that really makes me mad.
I wrote to the VP in New York, that was back the first week of August 2006. I have yet to hear a word from him. I really thought he would at least apologize for whomever did not do their job the first time. But no....I guess the higher the position with a company the less you care about whom really pays your salary...US ....the little people..
I agree with you, I really don't think they will pay the outrageous charges we were charged, the charges consisted of oversees fees and fax charges-4 of them and when the card was final working....$4.95 a minute oversees....a rip off....
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