Pogo Unfairly Suspended My Account

THEY STILL DOING THATTHEY WANT OUR MONEY THEY MUTE SOME BUT IF THEY
DO NOT LIKE THEY KICK YOU OUT FORTUNE TELLER SAID I SEE GREAT THING
FOOR LAORIOLES I SAID BULL SHIT YOU WOULD KNOW MY FUTURE IF GOD
WHISPER IT TO YOU PLUS I SAID SHIT AFTER 5 6 BALL I HAD NONE I DID
NOT VERBALLY THREAT OR HARRASE ANY ONE I RANK OUT GAMESS HAVING FUN
...... I AGREE THEY SHOULD WARN SOMEONE WITH UTE BUTTON THEY COULD
MUTE YOU ... THERE WAS SOME ONE THAT WAS GIVIN GUEST PASS YOU HAVE
GIVE A CREDIT CARD FOR GUEST PASS SOMEONE SHOULD CHECK INTO POGO
GAMES IT DICATORSHIP.........IF YOU SAY WORD IN ONE ROOM YOU SHOULD
BE ABLE SAY IT IN OTHER ROOMS AFTER ALL WE ADULTS THE DO HAV E MUTE
BUTTON LaOrioles(pogo)/Lisa AnnHaines facebook/ MsOrioles on twitter

i would like to know how long this suspension will last . it has been
just about a month seeing i an paying for pogo. please respond

respectfully

blackie6171

I also have had my account suspended twice in 7 days with no
explanation as to why. I even bought gems and now can't use them. I
didn't cuss, I don't cheat or use bots, the first time I turned off my
pop-up blocker, the second I bought gems so I have no idea what glitch
they have in the system, but I am NOT paying my hard earned money to a
company that is too big to really take care of their paying customers.
I don't need badges, even though they were fun to get, I don't need a
mini either. And obviously they don't need my money, so I'm going to
Slingo instead. I've emailed them both times, the first they
reinstated me in 24 hours, this time NO answer back at all. Well this
CUSTOMER is not coming back.

my screen name is Kayluh17 and i was temporarily barred or whatever
because i said i didn't think our soldiers should be in Iraq they are
killing innocent children and this lady thought i was insulting them
and so i told her i wasn't they are heroes...blah blah blah then she
went on about stupid stuff like how i should have another kid to get a
stimulus check from Obama and atleast her kids weren't parents at 17,
pretty much calling me a whore. so of course i got mad and said some
vulgar things & i reported her as well and she is still able to play
on pogo yet I am not!!??!! How they heck does that work?

This comment is a suggestion for all who think they have been treated
unfairly by pogo or any other website that bans you, suspends your
account, and punishes you in any other way without giving you a
logical reason. My suggestion is: that you all band together and file
an appeal. If that does not work, than your last resort would be to
sue the companies that have mistreated you. You can sue the websites
for as much money as you want.

they did it to me also and i am a paying customer. i said bitch in
the conversation about well bred dogs...bitch means i had only had
girl dogs in the breeders cup...i have been suspended for that....b/c
i siad i have only had bitches...

those jerks need to answer the phone and emails. i tried calling for
them to help me fis the problem and they hung up on me twice. i

i will never give them my money again. i am sad to loose the friends
i have mad on pogo but i am certain the r not the only site out there!

when you are reported by someone..pogo logs your chat and sees the
last 5 things that you typed....they don't suspend you on someone
elses word.

I'm glad some of you dinner winners were banned from Pogo.

Gauging by your messages and replies, you don't even deserve to be on
the 'net!

Pogo does NOT suspend accounts lightly. Why bite the hand that feeds
them? Pogo relies on repeat subscribers.

If any one was banned, your not telling the whole truth, Pogo checked
the logs and found you in violation of their TOS, period.

So quit the bellyaching and grow up!

ok here is how unfair pogo really is. I am not a child nor do I curse
in the game rooms sometimes it gets so steamy i leave. I created a
pogo account about 7 years ago when austin powers was hot I used my
aol screen name which was at the time onesxybch38 i joined club pogo 3
years ago and no its not my life, but it is my entertainment, which i
may say costs me every year. I go on weekly faithfully and work on my
badges I have finished some of the games. and got rank badges. Well
the other day I went to sign on and it simply wouldnt let me I had to
search and search to find a way to contact pogo and you can only do so
with an email. which with all the money they make is redicioulus. I
finally get a reply days later saying that my screenname was offensive
so they suspended me and oh i loose all but 10 of my badges after 3
years and all my ranks and friends list and such this almost brought
me to tears 3 years of working on all this and this is what i get i
didnt do anything wrong. and they didnt even contact just wipe me out
so unfair looking into better business bureau i just want all my money
back and never will go back there

Well I just got "barred" from pogo last night.What happened was, I was
bowling on pogo and happened to look at the chat screen and seen
someone said something like "everyone in here are tater nuts."
Slightly amused and unclear on what a tater nut was I asked.."What are
tater nuts? Are they anything like tater tots? Then he said "look
between your legs." Slightly irritated and never one to take a whole
lot of crap from anyone replied,"The only thing I see between my legs
is the top of your mothers head". Now I thought it was funny, hes the
one who wanted to get racy when he referred to my genital area, so I
hit him with that one. Well then he comes back with something to the
effect of his mother just passing away two weeks ago, wich from
personal experience I learned thats the first thing someone says after
being torched by a good mother joke.Even so I simply relied "I
apologize" because I did actually lose my mother a few years back and
not knowing for sure he was lying I apologized and did really mean it.
A few other things were said, including him calling me a dumb dumb.
Than I think i said poopie head. Funny right? Juvenile? This whole
little scenerio went down without one swear word being used. Less than
an hour later I'm "barred" from pogo. Well there was a time when I
used to go on to pogo and just start messin with people just get them
mad and I would use all kinds of profanity. I got a kick out of it,
but it got old. But I have no problem engaging in a little personal
conflict or a battle of wits of sorts.But you cant get into something
with someone and have thin skin. I know the mother joke was a cheap
shot and always an easy one, but I thought it was good. Yeah well,
what goes around comes around and I guess I got mine. Does anyone know
how long they ban you?

ROFL!!! I know I shouldnt continue to keep this in the top 20 but I
have to point something out.

I just read further down where our little perpetual victim...I
mean...Marcy said she had been banned from Pogo AND Customers Suck. I
find that amazing since it would take a MAJOR MAJOR no no to get
booted from Customers Suck. I used to be a member there awhile ago and
it isnt a G rated website to say the least. If she got kicked from
there that says a LOT about her. More than anything else she has
posted about on here. And I am sure it goes without saying that what
it says about her...isnt good.

Sorry...just felt the need to point that out.

I WAS BARRED TO FROM POGO WHY PLAYER consider that there are lots of
players out there who abuse the reporting system. PLZ HELP ME TO GET
CHANCGE MY IP ADDRESS

My original post caused a lot of people to tell me in great detail how
wrong my priorities were. I don't feel it's ok to decide what another
persons priorities should be judging by your own standards.

People have ZERO idea what another persons life is like or what
they've been through. None of you have any idea in the first place why
it was so important for me to spend so much time on pogo, therefore it
was easy for all of you to beat me up for making pogo such a high
"priority" in my life.

Well, I won't go into my personal reasons as they are my business
only, suffice it to say that the last two years of my life have been
extremely hard. I've seen the worst humanity had to offer and I wish I
could say that the comments here have made me realize there are good
kind people in the world. But I can't. In fact, the majority of
comments have only reinforced in me why I dislike most people so much
and prefer animals to human beings.

You all have your own opinions about my OP and things I've said since
then. There's really not a lot to argue with anymore. My opinions and
feelings haven't changed and I know that yours won't either. We both
know how each other feels and neither is going to change the other.

So it's done. and YES, if the attacks against me keep up it will be
very hard not to reply, but I have to. I've gotten too upset by
reading some of the replies and getting upset and furious over what a
bunch of strangers thinks just seems wrong somehow to me. I have
enough to do in my "real" life to continue to bother with this
anymore.

Oooookay. I think we all can see why HumbleSerf has been banned from
multiple sites.

Let's just let it go. :)

Someones kid calls me names FIRST and I'm the one who gets in trouble
for retaliating ?

Well, I stand by my opinion. If you're old enough to join the fire and
start insulting people and calling them names, then you're old enough
to handle the forthcoming retaliation.

It would be nice to know that others had been warned as well as
myself, because it's not fair to be attacked by virtually everyone,
stand up for myself and THEN get in trouble for it.

This is NOT fair.

Hey, all.

Not surprisingly, many comments have been removed from this thread
today. I found examples of profanity, name calling, and personal
insults regarding intelligence levels and parenting ability. Some of
the people involved are now on their second warnings.

There are several comments in this string that bordered on violating
the guidelines, but I have tried to go easy on everyone involved,
because I can see this is a touchy subject.

I will be reviewing this thread again tonight, and again tomorrow.
Please feel free to continue the discussion - stopping your dialog is
not the purpose of this notification. I'd just like to ask that, in
the course of your discussion, you not use profanity, call people
names, blatantly insult their intelligence or lifestyle, or threaten
them in any way.

Thanks for understanding,

Beth

they could return their defective dvd players to Wal-mart after 8
months remember that?.....I posted a link to that letter down the
thread a ways.

Marcy, you were wrong in the letter to Wal-mart about the DVD players
that you wanted to return after 8 months and you are wrong about POGO.
I for one am tired of you proclaiming to be the victim.

I also want to say that no matter how many times you respond to the
posters here, you are not going to change our minds, we are rarely all
in complete agreement on this site and I would say that the fact that
we seem to be on this post speaks volumes.

Humbleserf...
can I ask you a question since you have refused to answer it thus far.

Why do you accuse me of not answering your questions further down in
this posting?
You had never asked me any questions, you DID ask Peregrina. It wasn't
until later on that you asked me the same questions, that I answered
them as soon as I saw them. What you fail to realize is that I work
two jobs. I have the internet at one, the Bank. The other, I am a
server and have no time to worry about the internet. I have no
internet at my apartment. It's a cost I don't need. Thus I only check
PFB when I am at my first job, or if I stop over my parents. When I
stop there however, i am more concerned with my Yahoo e-mail and
myspace than PFB. This is how I pass time at work. If you think I am
not answering you, odds are, I am enjoying my day off, or it's a
weekend, or even possibly, that it's after I have left work, and on my
way to the other job.

Now for you ignoring me when i asked you multiple times why yu kept
saying I was refusing to answer your questions...I believe that falls
under your catagory of rude.

Also, to call us a heard and tell us to continue with our sheep
mentality, is very rude.
Yo usay I started name calling, I beg you to point out where. I called
you rude. If that offended you, why did you call the people on Pogo
the same thing? DO NOT call me names. The second you do, yo uwill be
reported. Yo uhave already attacked people's children. I don't believe
you have a clear concept of what manners are after your postings here,
and I can DEFINATELY see why you have been banned from multiple
sites...but refuse to admit they are your fault.

If you have a problem with me, feel free to e-mail me
Snowprincess1106@yahoo.com
Or take it to the PFB higher ups, and tell Beth or Mr Helpful, or
Erik, Or any of the mods what your problems are. I will be more than
happy to listen.

I almost always click the option to turn chat off while playing pogo.
This completely removes the chat part of the game from my screen, so
there is no way I would ever see you asking a question.

Other players in the room have no way of knowing I have turned off
chat. You may have been in a room where lots of the players used the
same option.

That doesnt make them rude, for goodness sake! You go on about people
trying to police you, but you are doing the exwact same thing. You
expect people to chat, others reserve the right not to.

Neither party is wrong, it is a choice and option on how to use the
website. Cetainly nothing to get your knickers in such a bunch over
that you behave in a manner resulting in your suspension.

You will violate the Terms of Service if you (or others using your
Account) do any of the following:

* Harass, threaten, embarrass, or do anything else to another
Member or guest that is unwanted. This means: don't say bad things
about them, don't keep sending them unwanted messages, don't attack
their race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. If you
disagree with someone, respond to the subject, not the person.

Complaining and whining and calling people names is considered
"Harassment", sweetheart. You don't have the right to insult people
because they don't follow YOUR idea of politeness.
Pogo DOES investigate. They don't just arbitrarily suspend an account
because of one complaint, unless they see proof validating the
complaint.

Since you don't mention exactly what you say, I'm guessing it was
something REALLY rude.

I was a member of Pogo for years up until about 8 months ago. I
generally enjoyed their games and the badge challenges. However, I've
always despised the chat feature. To me, it was disruptive to the
game, as a constant scroll of chatting kept interrupting my
concentration on the game I was playing. But even worse than that, is
when you're playing a game against the other players in the room (e.g.
Bingo, etc), most people like to congratulate the winner, which in
itself is fine. The problem is, if you don't congratulate the winner,
some people can start giving you a hard time. That's absolutely
ridiculous. I came to the site to play games, not to chat. If I want
to chat online, there are thousands of chat rooms available on the
internet for me to do just that.

I don't care to be shamed into chatting.

I never use that site, but a friend recently sent my hubby a trial use
invitation, and he's been using it for the past few days.

I was looking at the screen when he was playing, and I saw how it was
set up.

I thought it seemed silly to combine chatting with game playing. When
I'm playing a game, all I want to do is concentrate on it, especially
if the game depends on timing.

I think it's a poor design.
Chat should be a completely different page on the site.

Hi.

Pogo has a featured page called Miss Netiquette. In there your very
issue is addressed.

Unfortunately, as you know, there are a lot of trolls there. SOMEHOW
these people don't violate the TOS. But, others, who have to put up
with them, because they dont know the TOS as well as the trolls do,
are actually the ones who get suspended. (This, by their own
admission). Read it. It's very sad that Pogo cannot figure out how to
deal with trolls.

Also, I have seen a website devoted solely to people who have been
banned or suspended by Pogo, claiming without explanation. So, no, it
would seem you are not alone.

Whether you did anything wrong, I don't know. I do know I find it rude
to be in a room and say Hi, and nobody responds.But, I have come to
realize that Pogo's design is to blame.

By design, Pogo sets people up for failure. If I am in Pogo, but in
private chat, usually because I'm getting sick by the perverted
conversations, and if you were to come in, I would have no idea you
said Hi to me.

Others, may just be so engrossed in the game, they dont even see you.
You know it happens, you've done it yourself. We all do.

Still, others disable the chat windows altogether.
Sometimes people are in the room, but not at their computers.

The worst scenario, usually late at night, I'd suspect, are those who
use programs to play for them. This is a clear violation of terms,
but, I suspect a very large number of people use them, and the reason
they dont respond, is because they havent been in chat for hours!

Unfortunately, it seems as though Pogo (and other websites) feel
justified in suspending people based on one sided investigations.

I wont comment on whether I think you were right or wrong. I have no
idea. I do know Pogo seems to suspend people without cause, and I know
they do suspend people with cause. I will state, again, that I think
it is wrong to do so without proper investigation, and without telling
the user why. While it may SEEM like a person should know what they
did, perhaps they did not. And, when the suspension is over, they will
undoubtedly repeat it, because they did not know what they did.

I just have to say this. You swore at a roomful of people because they
didn't answer your question yet you wonder why you were banned? Oh,
and by the way, swearing at people is..yep that's right..rude! Saying
"well so and so swore too, why aren't they banned?" is just plain
childish. I feel sad for you, I really do.

Not to be mean, but its POGO.
An online gaming site. Does it really effect you that much that you
got banned? If it does, I belive that you need to rethink your
prioritys.

Remember this??

http://www.planetfeedback.com/index.php?level2=blog_viewpost&topic_id=
290545&reply_id=51591#anchor51591

Marcy, it would appear that you have an unfortunate history of
behaving badly on websites and then blaming everyone else when your
behaviour results in a banning.

http://www.planetfeedback.com/index.php?level2=blog_viewpost&topic_id=
291705

I am so sorry that you are having a rough time in your life.
I realize how much pain you are in. I know how much it means to you to
have people to chat with, and I understand that you were hurt because
you felt you were being ignored. Things like that hurt.

You need to take stock, though, and realize that sometimes, you have
to take responsibility when bad stuff happens and you get called on
your behaviour. It's not always the fault of the other person, or a
vendetta against you.

You know, nothing anyone here says is going to get through to the O.P.
I can't imagine how the poor thing was raised if humiliation is the
punishment for every offense, intended or not.

The fact is, it's rude to point out others' rudeness. Even Miss
manners says so.

I feel sorry for her. Unless that's rude. In which case, I feel
totally humiliated. Really.

This may have been stated by another reply, and I apologize if I'm
being repetitive, but I haven't read through all the replies.


I've been on Pogo for several years, and I generally not only ignore
the chat, but I use the option that actually turns it off entirely. If
I had been in that room, I would have had no way to even see your
question, never mind answer it.


I assume many others utilize this option also, and therefore wouldn't
have seen your type at all.

While I think having one side of the story (and embellished at
that)...it's basically much ado about nothing. Some people just want
to play games. Some are playing games against the clock or against the
computer and don't want to be bothered with the "chit chat" and
someone's need for a yes or no answer, civility, approval of their
moral standards or manners at the risk of losing the place or the
honor of putting their name in the winner's list.

I would LOVE to see all sides of this issue to see what REALLY was
said....just calling other people rude is rude and sometimes it's the
MANNER and TONE and CONTEXT of the communication and not just the
content...
Anyway I love to play Mah Jong, and purchased it from Game House for
this exact reason... everywhere that had this version had chats where
people were trying to hook up, yak, convert me to the one true
saviour, or refer me to another site....I ignored them and got accused
of being rude (yes rude!!) but I never got booted because I simply
didn't answer back. The way the OP is answering everything anyone says
leads me to believe that something more innocent than calling someone
"rude" went on. Just a hunch.

Anyway I doubt you've been banned forever, like others said, and you
mentioned you were "tempoarily suspended" which is not total
banishment. Perhaps some patience is in order.

The OP was suspended from an internet game site for admittedly using
bad language in a chat but feels it's unfair because she doesn't
believe that the other chat participants, who used language as bad as
hers, were also suspended. She feels that because she has told Pogo
her side of what happened that she should be instantly reinstated.
Although this was the original content of the letter, somehow the
whole thing has boiled down to a debate on what is right and wrong in
human behavior.

The OP can say whatever she wants about manners and civility and
preach until she's blue in the face about how horrible it is for
people to be rude to one another. But the fact remains that there
never has been and never will be any justification for humiliating
another human being.

Newfie questioned far below all of these comments whether the chat was
scrolling too fast for people to catch the question, and I responded
with this:

This is exactly correct. The chat field at Pogo is extremely small --
only a few lines of short text can be seen at any given time. It also
can freeze up on a person, then everything will scroll by fast all at
once.

1) Were the other people you were arguing with temporarily banned? I
know this may be a pointless question since you cannot log in there,
but it's food for thought.
2) Perhaps all of you that were arguing were banned until they review
the conversation and make a decision.
3) I have no problem with them banning you for that. I am sure you
will get your priviledges back, but you can't call other people rude
for not answering a question in a gaming room. Personally, I never
talk on those little chat rooms because all I want to do is play the
games. I am not there to make friends. I think that you need to take
a deep breath and re-think the whole situation. I am sure that there
were others on the site acting inappropriately, but it doesn't sound
like there's a halo around your head either.

I have a sneaking suspicion that you are not presenting all the facts,
and I also doubt you were suspended just because you said someone was
rude. If you didn't like what was happening or what was being said,
there is a mute button.

They are not going to extend your badge time because you violated
TOS. How is that fair to others? If you didn't finish the badge, you
didn't finish it. You can always go back and finish at another time as
a Personal Challenge.

Calling people out on their rude behavior is rude. You don't have to
agree with it or even acknowledge it but it's a fact.
What you're supposed to do is just let a rude person be rude while
sitting back and thanking whoever that you have the common sense not
to be so rude.

Ok, Marcy,

I was with you until I read most of your responses to the other
commenters and now it's becoming a little more clear why you got
banned from Pogo.

If you responded like this to Peregrina . . .

"People NEED to have their rudeness exposed, to be publicly humiliated
for it, otherwise they will not realize they are being rude and go on
being rude.

I really hope that you aren't the doormat like you made youself sound
like with that comment. Because only doormats let people be rude to
them without doing anything about it."

They NEED to be humiliated for it? Oh my!

& I would tell you what I think of your "doormat" comment, but the
"kinder, gentler PFB" will not permit it, so, I'll refrain.

Based just on those comments, I can only imagine what you must have
said to the "non-responders" in the game room that caused them to
report you.

I realize I don't do online gaming and perhaps there is a differing
protocol of etiquette that exists there, but, again, if the other site
participants were irritated enough to report you, perhaps it wasn't
them that went against that protocol.

Red suggested just re-registering with a new handle, but again, if you
are this angry to dig in your heels and angrily respond to just about
everyone who has commented here, I doubt you'd be willing to find any
other way of dealing with the situation.

Good luck with your demands.

Ma'am, i have a feeling that this letter all comes down to manners,
yet i do not believe that your manners are as great as you claim. i am
not here to attack your manners, but you seem to be attacking
everybody else who disagrees with you, and im just going to give you
my personal opinion.

"This sounds alot to me like that BS xtians love to spout from the
bible. "Turn the other cheek"..Uh huh."


sound familiar? did you realize that when you publicly insult an
ENTIRE religion, that is considered rude? it may not be your religion,
just as it isn't mine, but it is somebodies religion, and i believe
they deserve enough respect to not have it called "BS".

you have gone overboard, in insulting a religion that didn't even
need to be brought into this post. personally, i believe calling
somebodies religion "bs" is worse than not answering a question. maybe
you were taught not only manners, but ignorance as well. no, this
isn't an attack, but when somebody cannot respect somebody elses
religion, then i think it is ignorance. you do not have to believe
their religion, or like what they preach, but respect the fact that
people out there DO like what they preach, and DO believe in it. i do
not know what your religion is, but beleive me, i would never resort
to calling it "bs". it is your religion that you believe in, and you
have the right to believe in it, and that, is not "bs".

what the heck is pogo?

That being said, what difference does it make if you get an answer to
a question? Is that a reason to get upset and start calling people on
it? It worked out well for you. I feel bad for you getting 86ed and
all because you sound like you really enjoy this thing. Consider this
a lesson you won't repeat.

Plus, going onto another internet site and bad mouthing them probably
won't do much to help your cause. It may make them extend it.

I do use pogo, however I NEVER partake in the chat feature that
plagues the games. I'm not there to socialize, and frankly don't even
pay attention to the chat window. I'm not there to socialize, I am
there to play the games and have some quiet time to myself. I think
that it is rude to demand someone partake in your chosen conversation
when they through their silence have explicity expressed an interest
in staying out of said conversation.

I consider it rude to DEMAND an answer, much less civility and
manners. By DEMANDING civility and manners, Marcy, you are showing
that you have none.

I don't know the particulars of your situation, but simply from the
tone of your letter, I am disinclined to have much sympathy. You might
keep that in mind, the next time you DEMAND someone respond to a
question.

If you or any of the others care to provide me with any input as to
what's upsetting you about the site's moderation, I'm perfectly
willing to talk about it. It can either be discussed on my blog or my
email address is below.

TheExpatriateAct@gmail.com

I'm also fairly certain that Beth, Venice and Leanne would be willing
to discuss matters as well. Their emails are located on their blogs.

you are the only one i dont talk to via myspace or email out of the
moderators lol