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by Alley Posted Mon October 30, 2006 @ 10:02 PM
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I'd love to know how the subject went from the canon repair to sexual assault.. yea im too lazy to read all the comments
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by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Posted Sat October 28, 2006 @ 4:07 AM
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How on earth did this happen? Why is there such a terrible misunderstanding about the reason for needing moderators? And, above all, why in the world would anyone suddenly be afraid to speak their mind? Could someone please explain to me what is going on.
I don't understand how this got so blown out of proportion, and for the life of me, I can't understand how the regular commenters ever got the impression that they had to walk on eggshells. That's not the way I understood it at all. I just assumed everyone realized who the new rules were meant for. Why are you all taking it so personally? If we're going to fight amongst ourselves, then the trolls have won. Congratulations.
It's 4:00 a.m., I can't sleep, and after making the mistake of looking at this letter, I may never sleep again.
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My take
by SueNY Sat October 28, 2006 @ 5:04 PM
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Excuse me?
by Beth - PFB Site Admin Sat October 28, 2006 @ 9:27 PM
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by Beth - PFB Site Admin Posted Fri October 27, 2006 @ 3:36 PM
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...describing a sexual assault is NOT the only appropriate way to use the word "rape".
Dictionary.com says it can also be used to describe:
* an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation.
* the act of seizing and carrying off by force.
* to plunder (a place); despoil.
* to seize, take, or carry off by force.
* the residue of grapes, after the juice has been extracted, used as a filter in making vinegar.
* a plant, Brassica napus, of the mustard family, whose leaves are used for food for hogs, sheep, etc., and whose seeds yield rape oil.
Not to say it was the best word to use - obviously, it was highly irritating for the community. It is entirely possible the letter writer didn't mean to say that the company had sexually assaulted him, but rather that the company had abused or violated him - which it is his perogative to believe.
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Beth...
by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Fri October 27, 2006 @ 4:16 PM
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by Erik - PFB Site Moderator Posted Wed October 25, 2006 @ 9:49 AM
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As everyone already knows, the title of this letter got changed. We apologize for having to do that, but certain words are just a bit too loaded to be thrown around casually, even if written in a moment of anger.
What we didn't want to do, though, was delete this letter entirely. Other than the unfortunate choice in words, the rest of the complaint is legitimate, and I'm happy to hear that it was resolved. It is also commendable that Mark apologized for the term that he used. I have no doubt that he regretted his choice in words.
However, I don't want anyone to think that those of who were angered by the title to think that you weren't justified in being upset. You certainly were. Jeffrey has a very good blog entry that he wrote about the usage of the word "rape" in complaint letters. I agree with him completely. As bad as any consumer complaint may be, it is still not anywhere near comparable to being raped. A rape is a despicable, heinous crime that most people can only hope to never have to experience in their lifetime. It is not poor customer service.
So I apologize to Mark if some of the comments here were upsetting to him, but I still feel that those who made them had a right to do so. But what's been said has already been said on the subject, so I would appreciate if any further comments on this letter be about Mark's complaint, and not about the "rape" usage. As far as I'm concerned, that issue has been dealt with already.
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Thank you Erik
by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Wed October 25, 2006 @ 10:08 AM
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well..
by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 3:59 PM
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ah yes
by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 7:53 PM
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blogging
by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 7:55 PM
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thanks
by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 6:53 PM
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Personally...
by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Thu October 26, 2006 @ 4:02 PM
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It's ironic
by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Thu October 26, 2006 @ 5:04 PM
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Correction
by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Thu October 26, 2006 @ 5:18 PM
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Absolutely.
by Beth - PFB Site Admin Fri October 27, 2006 @ 3:26 PM
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by Gino Version 1.2 Posted Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:16 PM
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Well since Mark was nice enough to come back and tell us they didn't charge him this ONE TIME free... I think we should expect a "Thank You" note written in a more civil manner to Cannon after dissing them in such a foul, uncouth manner in a public forum, and causing US to read it!!
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excuse me!
by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 6:50 PM
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You're welcome.
by Erik - PFB Site Moderator Wed October 25, 2006 @ 9:24 AM
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Bend over. Let someone forcibly assault you.
Then decide whether you want to use the word "rape" in such a manner ever again.
I hope your entire post gets deleted by site moderators.
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Thank you Peregrina
by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:35 PM
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by Jeffrey Posted Tue October 24, 2006 @ 9:50 AM
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"rape their customers"
Lovely. Absolutely lovely.
Mark, you may be upset, but sexual assault is not the right image for a business letter, y'know.
Of course, since you were a repair tech, isn't this something you could do yourself? I'm no camera expert, but a bottle of cleaner, a soft cloth, maybe a brush... these can be purchased at a camera store for what, under $10?
Which, of course, backs up your point. But if it was something that you could do in 10 minutes for less than $10, why even bother with Canon? Claims of "free" or no, I can't imagine mailing my camera away if I could just do it myself.
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sorry
by Mark Lynn Tue October 24, 2006 @ 2:19 PM
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Mark
by Jeffrey Tue October 24, 2006 @ 2:50 PM
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Mark
by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Tue October 24, 2006 @ 3:32 PM
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wow!
by Mark Lynn Tue October 24, 2006 @ 8:28 PM
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Mods
by Mark Lynn Tue October 24, 2006 @ 8:33 PM
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oh well.
by Mark L Tue October 24, 2006 @ 8:51 PM
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I have never EVER
by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Tue October 24, 2006 @ 10:47 PM
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Again Chris...
by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:15 PM
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:)
by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 7:06 PM
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Nichole
by Rock Star Amanda Mon October 30, 2006 @ 11:28 AM
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and as usual,
by Rock Star Amanda Mon October 30, 2006 @ 12:19 PM
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Blog entry
by Jeffrey Wed October 25, 2006 @ 6:53 AM
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hmmm :)
by Mark Lynn Tue October 24, 2006 @ 10:17 AM
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by Mark Lynn Posted Tue October 24, 2006 @ 2:24 PM
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while I could do it myself, cleaning of the sensor is not something to be done lightly, figuratively speaking and since I was told it would be at n/c them I'd prefer someone that has done it before do the task. Next time I'll take care of it myself but they have now graciously odffered this first cleaning gratis as a courtesy..
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