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ripped off by repair

Posted Mon October 23, 2006 12:00 pm, by Mark L. written to Canon U.S.A., Inc.

Write a Letter to this Company


I have a 16 month old Digital Rebel XT. Had a few tiny bits of dust inside the viewfinder. I called their service center, was told they perform cleanings for free. I was a bit surprised as it was no longer under warranty but thought that would be a great PR factor... Anyway, I sent it in, get this quote, quote #WA726283 for $180.00 for labor, that's just plain nasty as we're talking a 15 minute job. I know as I used to be a camera repair tech with them years ago in Lake Success, NY. The corporation didn't try to rip off their customers back then and I've heard of this cleaning cost BS from others now.

nothing, I have already requested it be returned, unrepaired. This is my 4th digital camera and certainly not the last, but the last from Canon.


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by Alley Posted Mon October 30, 2006 @ 10:02 PM

I'd love to know how the subject went from the canon repair to sexual
assault.. yea im too lazy to read all the comments

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It's because of what the tittle by Little Trooper Tue October 31, 2006 @ 10:20 AM

by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Posted Sat October 28, 2006 @ 4:07 AM

How on earth did this happen? Why is there such a terrible
misunderstanding about the reason for needing moderators? And, above
all, why in the world would anyone suddenly be afraid to speak their
mind? Could someone please explain to me what is going on.

I don't understand how this got so blown out of proportion, and for
the life of me, I can't understand how the regular commenters ever got
the impression that they had to walk on eggshells. That's not the way
I understood it at all. I just assumed everyone realized who the new
rules were meant for. Why are you all taking it so personally? If
we're going to fight amongst ourselves, then the trolls have won.
Congratulations.

It's 4:00 a.m., I can't sleep, and after making the mistake of looking
at this letter, I may never sleep again.

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totally blown out of proportion... by Mark L Sat October 28, 2006 @ 7:19 AM


I leave you guys alone for two weeks... by TheNewMrsDragonflygrrl Sat October 28, 2006 @ 11:22 AM


Just so you know... by Beth - PFB Site Admin Sat October 28, 2006 @ 9:14 PM


One clarification: by Beth - PFB Site Admin Sat October 28, 2006 @ 9:31 PM


Mrs. Married Lady? LOL by TheNewMrsDragonflygrrl Sat October 28, 2006 @ 10:16 PM


It was my attempt at originality at 10:00 at night... ;oP by Beth - PFB Site Admin Sat October 28, 2006 @ 10:41 PM


My take by SueNY Sat October 28, 2006 @ 5:04 PM


Excuse me? by Beth - PFB Site Admin Sat October 28, 2006 @ 9:27 PM


I don't know why people feel that way by RedheadWGlasses Sat October 28, 2006 @ 5:09 PM


You know what, Red? by Beth - PFB Site Admin Sat October 28, 2006 @ 9:33 PM


Sadly, you're learning the hard way by Ree Sun October 29, 2006 @ 5:58 AM


Wow...just WOW! N/T by mary jo Sun October 29, 2006 @ 2:51 PM

by Beth - PFB Site Admin Posted Fri October 27, 2006 @ 3:36 PM

...describing a sexual assault is NOT the only appropriate way to use
the word "rape".

Dictionary.com says it can also be used to describe:
* an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation;
violation.
* the act of seizing and carrying off by force.
* to plunder (a place); despoil.
* to seize, take, or carry off by force.
* the residue of grapes, after the juice has been extracted, used as a
filter in making vinegar.
* a plant, Brassica napus, of the mustard family, whose leaves are
used for food for hogs, sheep, etc., and whose seeds yield rape oil.

Not to say it was the best word to use - obviously, it was highly
irritating for the community. It is entirely possible the letter
writer didn't mean to say that the company had sexually assaulted him,
but rather that the company had abused or violated him - which it is
his perogative to believe.

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Beth... by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Fri October 27, 2006 @ 4:16 PM


Erik is free to request that it no longer be discussed by Beth - PFB Site Admin Fri October 27, 2006 @ 5:02 PM

So basically what you are saying by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Fri October 27, 2006 @ 8:35 PM


hey starlight... by PlanetFeedback's Mr. Helpful Fri October 27, 2006 @ 11:12 PM


oh wait... by PlanetFeedback's Mr. Helpful Fri October 27, 2006 @ 11:29 PM


No, actually what I am saying is: by Beth - PFB Site Admin Fri October 27, 2006 @ 11:27 PM

Actually Beth by Little Trooper Tue October 31, 2006 @ 9:48 AM


However that was not the context in which it was used. by Beth - PFB Site Admin Tue October 31, 2006 @ 10:06 AM


kudos to you Beth. Informative, pertinent message. n/t by donno Fri October 27, 2006 @ 9:28 PM


Re: ripped off by repair by Erik - PFB Site Moderator Wed October 25, 2006 @ 9:49 AM

Thank you Erik by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Wed October 25, 2006 @ 10:08 AM


Something is still bothering me by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Wed October 25, 2006 @ 3:42 PM

well.. by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 3:59 PM


Becoming "something less"... by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Wed October 25, 2006 @ 7:45 PM

ah yes by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 7:53 PM

blogging by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 7:55 PM


Mark L. by rxgirl---In quiet protest Wed October 25, 2006 @ 4:13 PM

thanks by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 6:53 PM


You don't have to say a word... by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Wed October 25, 2006 @ 7:39 PM


Mark, I give you credit by donno Thu October 26, 2006 @ 12:59 PM


by Chris M Posted Wed October 25, 2006 @ 7:52 PM

This is why I do not like the idea of where I think Mod's will take
this site. No offense at all to you Erik, I think you are trying to
do what you were asked to do.

With that said, to me, it's a judgement call on what you make of it,
and I think many have over-reacted to it. This is my own personal
take. People who actually commit anything resembling the sexual
version of rape have committed a heinous act. For that, there is no
question. The word has other, documented definitions, as I have
pointed out, and it is often used as a figure of speech.

So while you asked for no more rape talk, I think this is relevant in
that it deals with how people can respond to a letter. If you want to
say that "that issue has been dealt with already", you can make that
same argument about 80% of the letters to the left in the Top 20.
It's the same stuff hashed over by many people - and I am just as
guilty. Most of those issues have been dealt with and commented on
accordingly.

So with that...and no more fanfare, I will kindly step away as I had
planned to do 2 weeks ago. I fault no one and leave with no regrets.
I wish PFB and the great community of letter writers nothing but the
best.

With Regards,
Chris

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by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Posted Wed October 25, 2006 @ 8:35 PM

who has already left or is thinking of leaving, please let me have one
more word.

Sticking it out and trying to make this work is a lot harder than
leaving the site. Chris, you have proven that by your comments,
especially the last one. If you really believe in PFB, then please
help see it through the recent changes by simply continuing to do what
you have always done.

That's all.

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Too little, too late by LadyMac Thu October 26, 2006 @ 9:35 AM


Personally... by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Thu October 26, 2006 @ 4:02 PM


True by LadyMac Thu October 26, 2006 @ 4:12 PM


It's ironic by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Thu October 26, 2006 @ 5:04 PM


Correction by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Thu October 26, 2006 @ 5:18 PM


What's also amazing.... by LadyMac Fri October 27, 2006 @ 11:27 AM


Absolutely. by Beth - PFB Site Admin Fri October 27, 2006 @ 3:26 PM

by Beth - PFB Site Admin Posted Fri October 27, 2006 @ 3:25 PM

But, since you never bothered to ask, the title wasn't changed because
of the KGB, The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, or because a Secret
Society threatened to boil our bunnies. I know you'd love to think
we're out here in our Hitler moustaches looking for things to whack at
with riding crops, but I'm sorry - our lives just aren't that
exciting.

Erik sensed that the original wording was too harsh, asked the letter
writer if he would mind having it changed, and the letter writer said
it was fine. So we changed the wording. Because the original
language was harsh and offensive, and the changed language made the
point just as well.

Oh noes!! Alert the media!!! The moderation team is trying to sooth
rumpled feathers and help people be less offensive!! For sooth, the
world is ending!! Heaven forbid people should reconsider their
words!! That we should help them be less inflammatory! Clearly,
we're burying a scandal somewhere!!

You know what? This site is not run by the Jerry Springer show. If
you have a problem with something that's done, try asking someone
about it - and then LISTEN when they explain it. As I've said
approximately 42 billion times before, the email is
beth@planetfeedback.com. Do me a favor and USE IT.

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actually... by PlanetFeedback's Mr. Helpful Fri October 27, 2006 @ 3:58 PM


OMG. The secret's out. by Beth - PFB Site Admin Fri October 27, 2006 @ 4:01 PM


Springtime for Hitler... by RedheadWGlasses Fri October 27, 2006 @ 7:02 PM


would it surprise you to know by PlanetFeedback's Mr. Helpful Fri October 27, 2006 @ 7:04 PM


I still want to see pictures, personally. (n/t) by Beth - PFB Site Admin Fri October 27, 2006 @ 11:27 PM


Point taken!! by rxgirl Sun October 29, 2006 @ 10:41 PM

by Gino Version 1.2 Posted Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:16 PM

Well since Mark was nice enough to come back and tell us they didn't
charge him this ONE TIME free... I think we should expect a "Thank
You" note written in a more civil manner to Cannon after dissing them
in such a foul, uncouth manner in a public forum, and causing US to
read it!!

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You asked for it.... by LadyMac Wed October 25, 2006 @ 3:18 PM

excuse me! by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 6:50 PM


Great to read the thank you note.... i thought Mark L. used the "Rape Comment" in a letter and was referring to that I must have been mistaken N/T by Gino Version 1.2 Wed October 25, 2006 @ 9:05 PM

by RedheadWGlasses Posted Tue October 24, 2006 @ 9:05 PM

Good job.

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You're welcome. by Erik - PFB Site Moderator Wed October 25, 2006 @ 9:24 AM


by RedheadWGlasses Posted Tue October 24, 2006 @ 4:01 PM

Bend over. Let someone forcibly assault you.

Then decide whether you want to use the word "rape" in such a manner
ever again.

I hope your entire post gets deleted by site moderators.

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Bravo, Red!! by p d Tue October 24, 2006 @ 5:11 PM

I hope so too by Mark Lynn Tue October 24, 2006 @ 8:29 PM

... by Peregrina Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:33 PM

Thank you Peregrina by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:35 PM

by Jeffrey Posted Tue October 24, 2006 @ 9:50 AM

"rape their customers"

Lovely. Absolutely lovely.

Mark, you may be upset, but sexual assault is not the right image for
a business letter, y'know.

Of course, since you were a repair tech, isn't this something you
could do yourself? I'm no camera expert, but a bottle of cleaner, a
soft cloth, maybe a brush... these can be purchased at a camera store
for what, under $10?

Which, of course, backs up your point. But if it was something that
you could do in 10 minutes for less than $10, why even bother with
Canon? Claims of "free" or no, I can't imagine mailing my camera away
if I could just do it myself.

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sorry by Mark Lynn Tue October 24, 2006 @ 2:19 PM


Mark by Jeffrey Tue October 24, 2006 @ 2:50 PM


Mark by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Tue October 24, 2006 @ 3:32 PM


I Agree by Peanut's Mom Tue October 24, 2006 @ 3:52 PM


I disagree by RedheadWGlasses Tue October 24, 2006 @ 4:02 PM

I agree completely with you Red. by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Tue October 24, 2006 @ 4:27 PM


I didn't like it either... by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Tue October 24, 2006 @ 7:23 PM

wow! by Mark Lynn Tue October 24, 2006 @ 8:28 PM

Mods by Mark Lynn Tue October 24, 2006 @ 8:33 PM


Mark by Chris M Tue October 24, 2006 @ 10:23 PM

Oh I don't think that he should be dragged out and beaten either... by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Tue October 24, 2006 @ 10:44 PM

oh well. by Mark L Tue October 24, 2006 @ 8:51 PM

I have never EVER by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Tue October 24, 2006 @ 10:47 PM


Comments... by Chris M Tue October 24, 2006 @ 10:59 PM

Again Chris... by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:15 PM


Agree to disagree by Chris M Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:27 PM

I have no problem with agree to disagree. by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Tue October 24, 2006 @ 11:34 PM


Chris M. by LadyMac Wed October 25, 2006 @ 8:25 AM

:) by Mark L Wed October 25, 2006 @ 7:06 PM


Nichole by Rock Star Amanda Mon October 30, 2006 @ 11:28 AM


and as usual, by Rock Star Amanda Mon October 30, 2006 @ 12:19 PM


Blog entry by Jeffrey Wed October 25, 2006 @ 6:53 AM

by Jeffersonian Posted Tue October 24, 2006 @ 8:09 AM

If you were told by someone at Canon the repair would be free then
they will likely take care of it.
Cleanings are normally NEVER free. It's like changing an air filter
in your car or an oil change. Granted the price may be higher, but I
am sure the cleaning is done by a skilled technician, not an oil
change mechanic.
If I recall this cleaning is a requirement on all SLR digital camera,
regardless of the brand...
Sounds like it is general maint to me.

I have to raise a question, if you were a repair tech for them, then
why didn't you just clean it yourself, especially if its that easy and
quick to do, rather then pay to ship it etc... ? Something smells
fishy about your story... Just my thoughts.

As an aside, prices are going up for service because the prices of the
products are going down. When companies make cheap products, quality
companies like Canon, have to compete thus making up for the price
difference somewhere normally in repair. This is industry-wide in the
electronic market.

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hmmm :) by Mark Lynn Tue October 24, 2006 @ 10:17 AM

fishy huh... by Mark Lynn Tue October 24, 2006 @ 2:24 PM




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