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by Hashim Steinowicz Posted Thu November 23, 2006 @ 11:29 PM
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WOW, is all I can say
"I've been with this lady for 10 years. In those 10 years, she has needed to use the restroom only a handful of times""
She must have one hell of a bladder.
On top of that, you are a loser scam artist trying to get strangers to take your friend or employer, whaterver, to the bathroom.
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by Cubjunkie Posted Thu November 16, 2006 @ 4:00 PM
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It's usually best for a man who needs help to have a male caregiver and vice versa just for this reason.
TC just didn't want to do the dirty work and expected untrained employees to do such.
A little research done by people my Dad knows has told him this man refused an offer by an employee to clear the restroom for a few minutes so he could take her in or to go in and use the employee restroom.
TC is paid good money to take care of the woman and it includes this type of care helping in the bathroom. TC didn't want to do it. Simple as that.
The people at Costco are paid to ring registers, help customers with product not doo doo.
It's also a health issue without proper gloves and such to take care of this business.
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by Cubjunkie Posted Thu November 16, 2006 @ 3:56 PM
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And this will be taken care of. TC still got his apology but it will be made sure the manager etc will not get reprimanded and will be apologized to for anything they suffered.
Upper ups at Costco know this was probably a scam.
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by Cubjunkie Posted Wed November 15, 2006 @ 12:58 AM
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This guy was probably trying to get them to help her and claim a fall and sue for a lot of money.
There have been some incidents here like that.
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by donno Posted Sat November 11, 2006 @ 11:47 AM
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I replied to this already, but I see it still in the top 20 and this paragraph jumped out at me.
Exatly what state statute covers this (eg 23.1.6, 18.9.4, etc)? If you can supply this information, perhaps they can be held accountable for more than an apology. As things stand, whether they were right or wrong, what you said is true: all they can do is apologize.
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I did not know that they had "potty patrol personnel" in Cosco!!
My mother is 74 years old and on coumadin. You can not tell she is on coumadin, by just looking at her. Dermal-epidermal separation occurs more readily in elderly skin, and elderly skin is more likely to tear or blister. Adding the coumadin, it could make for a serious serious situation if someone were to "man-handle" her inappropriately!
Cosco's (or any other store) employees must act prudently and cautiously when dealing with potential law-suits. I would think that you would have a better chance of winning a law suit if one of them were to have helped you, and accidently hurt the lady you care for.
The general public knows basic First Aid and perhaps CPR. Transfers and transports are usually left for those qualified to do so (ie, EMT, paramedics, caregivers, nurses, doctors, etc!) To do so, without the knowledge, could be very very dangerous! I would not like that burden thrust upon me! I would love to help, in most cases, but the fear of hurting a person more than I would help stops me from helping.
I stand by the employees on this topic! They chose wisely not to help! I'm sure their hearts went out for you but, they acted prudently, in this case!
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by A A Posted Thu November 9, 2006 @ 11:18 PM
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There is no state or federal law saying that a business must help disabled or elderly people. Accessibility is the only thing required and that is open to interpretation.
If there was a law all one would need to do is walk into the nearest Costco (or any other store) and say, "I have a bad leg and am therefor disabled. I need one of your employees to carry me around or push me in a cart to do my shopping because I cannot walk on my own."
Costco owes you no apology. I would refuse to help any elderly person from a wheel chair to the bathroom under any circumstances unless they were related to me.
I like my money and the things I own, and even if nothing happened at the time, six months later I could be sued by her or her family because 'her hip suddenly got worse' and lose everything I own. Trust me, Costco would fire me to wash their hands of the lawsuit, so I would be out of a job too.
I am guessing that there is a wheel chair accessible stall in the bathroom so why would she need help walking to the bathroom? If you think there is any state or federal law saying a Costco employee MUST help a wheel chair bound person off the chair and onto the toilet, you might want to research REAL laws.
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by nick l Posted Tue November 7, 2006 @ 1:36 AM
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As others have already asked, why didn't YOU help the lady to the restroom?
I'm pretty sure nobody would have batted an eye if they saw you were assissting an elderly lady who has difficulty moving around.
Your average retail worker doesn't know the best way to assist an elderly, disabled person with their mobility. Should the elderly person person fall and break a hip or suffer some other debilitating injury, the store is ultimately responsible and can face legal action.
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by lovescats Posted Mon November 6, 2006 @ 1:27 AM
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I help people whenever I can but in this case I am afraid I would refuse. My sister in thinking she would help my wheelchair bound mother to the bathroom actually cause my mom an injury because she did not know the proper way to help her out of her chair.
My fear would be that I might hurt your patient because I would not know how to handle her. I think many people would react that way.
One thing that disturbs me is that the manger you spoke to at Costco said he would talk to the employees you named. Do you feel vindicated knowing you got people in trouble? Will you feel happy if they lose their jobs over this because you put Costco in a bad light? I wonder just who is the uncaring person in this story.
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by emt_c Posted Thu November 9, 2006 @ 5:56 PM
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Getting some nitrile gloves. I think they are stronger than latex, and, they don't tear up your skin. ;) we use them on the ambulance all the time!
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by mary jo Posted Fri November 10, 2006 @ 11:07 AM
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Do you know if those disposble gowns or whatever they are that they use in the ER (like you see on ER or Gray's Anatomy or whatever) are available to the public?
The reason I ask is because this week I had to deal with a LOT of crap. Literally. And I am worried that it might get on my clothes without me knowing and I might bring it home to my son. I want the disposable gowns and I was goggles and I want elbow length gloves! LOL!
Do you know if just anyone can get those gowns?
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by jessica smith Posted Sun November 5, 2006 @ 9:11 PM
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I think that maybe as a healthcare worker, you might forget that untrained people don't see it as simply assisting someone from wheelchair to bathroom. If your client started to fall, you would know how to help her without hurting yourself. A Costco employee probably wouldn't know how to do this. And if she did fall, the store and employee would be open to liablity.
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by donno Posted Sun November 5, 2006 @ 12:10 PM
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I read half the responses (lots) and I didn't see this - what about the responsibility the employee would be taking on? What if the elderly lady falls and gets injured while the untrained employee is attempting to help her into the bathroom?
My brother and I took care of my elderly mother for 5 years (she died a few days ago), attending to all her personal needs. If we were somewhere and the same situation came up, I would not expect someone to jump in and attempt to assist my mother, whom they are unfamiliar with, in a transfer. Yes, this situation could have been simply a case of someone not wanting to get involved with potty duties (which I completely understand ALSO), but in my mind the larger issue is one of taking responsibility for safe transport. My mom fell on 4 or 5 occasions. Once was in my care. I felt terrible and thought "A trained professional would not have let that happen." You don't want to learn this lesson the hard way.
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by Summer Posted Sat November 4, 2006 @ 3:57 PM
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I helped. Is that so bad? If I am ever in that situation, I would hope that somebody would help. I am not judging you personally, however, some of the attitudes here (not saying yours) are just not compassionate.
Sorry to have offended anybody. I just feel for people who cannot do for themselves. And I would feel honored to help them...maybe has something to do with God's Karma.
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by S. Brown Posted Sat November 4, 2006 @ 1:47 PM
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I'm glad you received a response from Costco and seem satisfied that they allegedly said you were right and their employee was wrong.
Prior to their apology you stated that you would be "looking for legal recourses, to santion Costco for breaking the law, by not assisting disabled customers". I still have issues with this statement as thus far no one (including you) has provided proof that a law exists stating that retail employees (aka, total strangers) are required to provide assistance to disabled customers to use the bathroom. You stated that all this woman needed was someone to help her "walk from her wheelchair to the restroom and back to the wheelchair. She didn't need any other assistance." Common sense indicates that she most likely required more assistance that you describe in view of the fact that you state she is blind - - once she was in the bathroom, how was she going to get into the stall, locate the seat protectors, toilet paper, etc. and then get to the sink to wash her hands?
From my point of view - - unless it is a law (state, federal or otherwise) that retail employees (or anyone else) must assist a complete stranger to use the bathroom then I think it is asking too much. If they want to help then that is their choice - - but I don't think that they should be required to do so.
Speaking of laws - - free speech is alive and well in America and I'm entitled to my opinion just as much as you are entitled to your's.
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by Tina Newman Sun November 5, 2006 @ 3:56 PM
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They should probably have a family washroom for he so that you can help her there if they don't want to.
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by Tina Newman Posted Sat November 4, 2006 @ 11:56 AM
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And work in retail. I do not WANT to help people in the toilet. I did not want to change diapers, but they were my kids, so I did what I had to do. I have never changed any diapers but those of my own kids.
I would help a family member, but not some complete stranger. Call me uncaring, I don't care what you call me. I WILL NOT help a complete stranger with using the toilet, esp. when there is a caregiver in attendance.
Now, if you have a flat tire, I will stop and either call for help, or try to help you myself.
If you collapse and need CPR, I'm your gal, but I am NOT the one to ask for potty help.
I'd tell my boss to go screw himself if he tried to order me to help someone with their toilet.
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by Batman Posted Fri November 3, 2006 @ 2:23 PM
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I just received a call from that particular Costco's store manager, who received word of this email from corporate.
To EVERYONE who said "How dare I" expect Costco to assist, the store manager took responsibility and was genuinely upset over this situation. To quote him, "That is NOT how we do business". He was extremely appalled by their actions. He promised me those who were involved, and, yes, I named the culprits, would be in his office to give account for the situation, before the day is over.
Apparently I AM NOT out of line to request assistance afterall.
Oh, and, btw, I did ask the manager if it was state law; he honestly did not know. I can accept that. I even accept his sincerest apologies. He did assure me that if such a situation ever comes up again, that wont happen.
To all of you who have responded, understanding the frustration, and the situation, thank you. You are very caring people. It shows.
To all of you who simply disagreed, thank you for attempting to share an opposite point of view. While I disagree, and, apparently Costco Corporate and the store manager did disagree with you.
To those of you who disagreed, and were rude, well, I have nothing to say to you, other than, obviously Costco Corporate disagrees with your disposition.
Thanks to Planetfeedback, because of them, it is possible to get heard by upper management, and when things do go wrong, they can be fixed. In this case, there was an obvious lack of training, and now, employees will be made aware of such situations, and how to handle them.
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by `~`Leanne`~` Fri November 3, 2006 @ 5:21 PM
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by Batman Fri November 3, 2006 @ 11:36 PM
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...I love that a little old, blind mobility-impaired lady is going out shopping at Costco! I mean, wouldn't it be SO easy to give up on life, stay home, get someone else to run your errands? What takes a friend 90 minutes could take this lady twice as long by insisting on coming along.
I don't care if at 90 I'm hunched over and pushing one of those walkers with tennis balls on the bottom of the "feet": I wanna be out there in the world whenever possible!
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by Harleycat Posted Fri November 3, 2006 @ 10:09 AM
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Can you please cite the state and federal laws you are referring to? I did a search and can find no state (CA) or federal law that requires a retail business to assist a disabled person in the restroom. The federal law, the Americans with Disabilities Act requires retail businesses to make reasonable accommodations in providing access to their facility for the disabled. So that would mean that the door to the restroom be wide enough for a wheelchair as well as one stall being handicapped accessible. It does not mean that they have to provide an attendant to assist a handicapped person in using the restroom.
I asked this before, why did you just ask them to "stand guard" at the restroom while you assisted your charge. The fact that you were standing in line at the Pharmacy is not an answer, get off the line. It is your job, not theirs! Asking a total stranger to assist your charge is just wrong in so many ways. First and foremost, they are not trained to provide assistance. Secondly, many people, myself included, are uncomfortable doing it. Lastly, it's a total stranger! How do you know they won't intentionally hurt your charge in some way?
I am disabled with a mobility disability. In January, I will be having surgery which will make it even more difficult for me to get around (for a while). I would never expect a retail employee to assist me or even ask someone in my office. It's not their job and may put someone in a very awkward position.
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by Starlight22203 Posted Fri November 3, 2006 @ 10:07 AM
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I'm really curious why you didn't take her into the bathroom yourself? I know the question has been asked but I don't recall you answering?
A woman's room is full of stalls. There is complete privacy and no reason why you couldn't assist her. If anyone questions you, simply state that you are helping a disabled woman. I don't know a single woman who would object.
With that said... I have tossed this letter around for a few days wondering what I would do if it were me. I would not have assisted this woman to the bathroom. Not because I would be afraid to be sued... but because I could not live with myself if something did happen. What if I assisted her, she fell and hit her head? I would personally feel responsible if that happened. If she died from that fall? Yep... I would feel like I killed her. That is not something I wish to carry with me the rest of my life.
I'm sorry if that makes me a bad person in your eyes but I help people every day. I help tie a child's shoe or cross a street. I help someone reach something at the grocery store or move something out of their way. I donate to good causes. I volunteer my time. Just because I wouldn't do something as personal and involved as assisting someone to the bathroom does not make me less of a person anymore than it does the employees of Costco. The ADA's purpose is to protect people with disabilites by requiring that public places make accomodations for them. Accomodations does not mean they have to bend over backwards for them. Do they have to make the building wheel chair accessible? Yes. Do they have to assist them reach something... I suppose they could (I'm not familiar with the specifics of the act). But the employees don't have to do anything that could jeopardize their own level of comfort.
So... with all that said, I'm glad to hear the you find such joy in your position as her caretaker. After 10 years I would have thought you would have worked towards receiving the proper qualifications so you could continue to properly care for her as she gets older and needs more complex attention.
Lastly, I am saddened to hear that you normally don't share your letters because this one was very well written. If you truly believe in your letter then it doesn't matter what others have to say about it.
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by Andrea Ritter Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 10:43 PM
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I used to work as a bank teller. And one day this man and his ederly mother came in to open an account. He was I would say in his late 60's, and she was probably in her 80's. She was walking with crutches. Her son was not helping her at all when they walked in. My manager took them in her office, and after they opened the account, the son asked if my manager would mind if his mom used our bathroom. Usually, we do not let the public use our bathroom for security reasons, but being that she was ederly, and was disabled, my manager said she could use the restroom. The son asked my manager if she wouldn't mind helping his mom. And she said, no she wouldn't mind walking her to the restroom. The son then said, "No, I don't think you understand, she needs help in the restroom." My manager said, "I'll show you where the restroom is, and YOU can help her in there."
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by Gino Version 1.2 Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 6:35 PM
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Please don't take this the wrong way. If a building is in compliance with whatever the law says they need to fulfill the requirements for Certificates of Occupancy and Adherence to the (overly misinterpreted) Citizens With Disabilities Act. I'm taking it that you are a professional, PAID caregiver for this elderly Blind Lady. It's your responsibility, male or female, that she is cared for.
So before you "Shame on Costo", it might be prudent you to call Sam's Club before going. I seriously doubt they have licensed caretakers or guide dogs or walkers waiting around to care for the customers.
Many DO provide motorized carts as a courtesy and even that may be pushing the envelope.
This is a bit much to expect from any business.
But then I'm guessing there IS no law that states any store needs to have licensed caretakers on the payroll. And I seriously doubt any business can be "sanctioned" for not doing what you are responsible for.
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by S. Brown Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 3:11 PM
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You claim that "she didn't need any other assistance" - - only someone "to walk her from her wheelchair to the restroom and back to the wheelchair" and this request was "Just to make sure she didn't not fall on the way in".
If she is unable to walk from the door to the bathroom stall without assistance, then it stands to reason that she would also require further assistance within the bathroom itself and I don't believe that it is fair to ask a perfect stranger to help unless they volunteer.
I don't believe that the Americans with Disabilities Act requires strangers to help people use bathroom facilities. Furthermore, if a Costco employee did agree to help her walk to the bathroom and back, and she fell and was injured, then Costco would most likely be liable for the injury.
So the bottom line is not that "Costco is unwillingy to help disabled people" - - their employees are not required to assist their customers use the bathroom facilities and no - - that is not against the law.
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by vc Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 12:28 PM
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I think your situation was unfortunate, but to expect someone making minimum wage or little more to help a disabled customer use the restroom is asking too much.
I've been in the position of having to assist people with disabilities and most of the time it wasn't an issue. But I drew the line at anything involving them being in any state of undress. I wasn't comfortable with it, but that doesn't make me a bad person.
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I wonder what this OP would have written if the employee DID assist the lady into the restroom and while the employee was assisting her, God forbid, she slipped and broke her hip.
I used to work in a convalescent hospital. I was in charge of the kitchen, and I was not licensed to care for patients. I was told (on many occasions by different people) that if I saw someone falling I was NOT to touch them because I was not trained how to appropriately assist and the person's family would have grounds for a lawsuit. I don't know if they were saying this to scare me, but I do remember that in that facility (which was in CA btw) you were not allowed to touch one of the residents unless you were licensed, certified, or otherwise permitted.
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by Applejacker Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 12:02 PM
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"..their concerns with companies that seem to not give a (fill in your own words here)..." That's MY issue with your letter. You are attacking an entire company, because one person apparently turned you down for whatever reason. In that same company I could find a hundred thousand employees that would have been glad to help. My peave is when a writer attacks an entire company rather than point out a person that may need some retraining or a different carreer. I sense an anger at the world itself over your situation, reflected by your attacking a broad spectrum of people, rather than the actual culprit.
You see, I myself, have dutifully taken care of MY disable mother for the last 20 years until she finally passed recently. 99.99% of every persons at Costco, or anywhere else, were very helpful. As for the one that wasn't I reported it to their manager, and it was resolved.
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by Tina Newman Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 11:53 AM
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It is not state OR federal law that I have to help a complete stranger do anything. The building must be accessible, but the employees do NOT have to assume the liability of caring for the person. Ever.
I would have offered to clear the bathroom, so YOU could go in with her, and I would have kept other women out, until you came out, but I would not have taken her in to the bathroom.
It is not LAW to assist anyone, hun, no state can require me to take on any risk.
What if someone had helped her and she had fallen? The store would be liable and the employee, personally, would be liable. Nope, I'm not gonna help someone and put my job and my life at risk of a lawsuit.
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by GiveMePeace Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 11:42 AM
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I work in retail and I wouldn't assist a complete stranger in the way described in this letter. Not in this day and age, no way. One slip is all it would take for a lawsuit to be filed and I will not set myself up in such a way. I can't fault any employee for refusing to guide a blind person anywhere, at any time.
Now I do think it was wrong if the employee refused to hold the door or go into the restroom and clear the way for the handicapped person and aide to enter with a minimum of trouble. I'm sure that there is no rule that a male aide cannot assist a female handicapped person in a public restroom, its not like the aide is leering at others and besides there isn't anything to see, all the stalls are private. Anyone who has a problem with someone of the opposite sex assisting a person who needs it has more issues than National Geographic.
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by Rock Star Amanda Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 11:18 AM
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I would ahve helped, stranger or not. I am a 21 year old living in a retirement community (They let younger people live o nthe 3rd floor bc the old ppl cant walk the steps well). It never fails 4 out of 10 times as I am walking up the stairs, I see someone who needs help carrying in groceries, or getting bags up stairs. I feel like if I hope for there to be kindness when i am old and need it, I need to show that kindness now. I have never been asked to help a person walk to a stall, but I can't say I'd ever refuse
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by MA Loper Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 9:05 AM
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I just get the feeling theres a few detailed points that got left out.
I worked with MRDD adults in a group home while in college and we were required to work with either male or female residents. We tried to ensure that each resident was paired up to an appropriate caregiver when we were out (male/male or female/female) but sometimes it was not an option, so whoever was available was responsible.
So I guess my question is, if YOU are her caregiver, then why didn't YOU take her to the restroom? The store refusing to allow you to escort her MIGHT be grounds for discriminatory practices, but I can't think of ONE law we ever were informed of that said the staff at a restaurant or store was obligated to help out disabled patrons.
There is a very fine line between accomodating and this and I think IF you could find an attorney to take your case, you'd have a tough battle because it's a pretty grey area.
Why didn't you involve the store management immediately? Or was that who refused to help? I know that isn't really time conscious when you have someone who has to go and can't really hold it, but it would have been better than the end result you got here.
I take my 9 year old in the women's restroom with me when we are out together and no one has ever complained about it. I'm not about to leave him alone while I use the restroom. I guess I don't see how this is any different.
If it was me, I'd have just taken her in and told the staff to take a flying leap. If the staff was bold enough to call the cops, the police probably would have sided with you anyway and been done with it.
Last but not least, did the poor woman get to use the bathroom or what?
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Harley
by `~`Leanne`~` Thu November 2, 2006 @ 11:26 AM
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MA
by p d Thu November 2, 2006 @ 2:00 PM
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To MA
by Batman Sat November 4, 2006 @ 12:01 AM
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by calm Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 9:00 AM
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It is Costco's responsibility under the law to make the restrooms accessible to wheelchair users. It is also certainly the right thing for them to do. It is probably also Costco's responsibility under the law to allow the two of you to go into the same restroom so that you can assist her. It is certainly the right thing for them to do.
It is not Costco's responsibility under federal law to provide personal assistants to customers. I do not believe it is Costco's responsibility under state law either, but as I do not live in California I don't know for sure. You might find this web page helpful: http://www.disabilityaccessinfo.ca.gov/lawsregs.htm I'm not up for reading the full text of a bunch of laws on this one. In any event, you don't know what the law says either. You're clearly just making up a law to try to bully people into letting you have your way.
People just making up laws to get what they want and to avoid their responsibilities is one of the reasons that businesses and so forth cite for not complying with the actual laws. It harms the rest of us disabled people. I don't know whether this lady is the one making up laws (and why isn't she writing her own letter? Many of us find it very offensive when nondisabled "helpers" speak on our behalf) or whether you are, but I don't appreciate it. The next time I go to a Costco and find that they're not following ADAAG standards and I can't get my wheelchair close enough to things I want to buy, or that they refuse to communicate with someone who uses assistive technology to express themself, or whatever, believe me: I will remember you.
It is definitely this lady's responsibility to either find a way to not need to use public restrooms (I use adult diapers when I'm worried about being able to hold my water for the whole time I'm out) or to ensure that she has the appropriate assistance to use public restrooms. That means that either she needs to have a woman with her when she might need to use a public restroom, or you and she need to be able to make it clear that you need to go into the same restroom together. Going out unprepared and then demanding that the people who happen to be around pitch in so that she doesn't have to face the consequences of lack of planning doesn't count.
I hope everyone reading this thread will know what you've been doing to undermine basic civil rights that many of us have fought hard for.
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Anyone who has a problem with a man helping a woman use the public restroom should stay home. How would WE feel if we couldn't go out to eat, out shopping, or to a movie because other women's silly fears (gasp! He might HEAR YOU PEE! THE HORRORS!)?
To any and all women who have protested and objected to a man assisting his female partner in the restroom: GROW UP. Get over yourselves. Just go in your stall, drop trou, pee (or do something else, although many women won't do the other thing if there's another woman in the restroom), undrop trou, WASH YOUR HANDS for 30 seconds, and get on with your life.
Consider yourself lucky that you can pee with no help.
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by Cass Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 8:30 AM
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I agree with the other posters that it's not Costco's responsibility to assist customers in using the bathrooms. I wonder if they're even allowed to. What if the woman fell while an employee was leading her in?
As her caregiver, it's your responsibility to make sure she has access to the restroom. If you're taking her out, you should be sure that there is a "family restroom" that you can accompany her into, or bring along another female who can help her into the ladies room.
While I understand there are laws regarding accessibility for disabled persons, I have never heard of a law that states employees of a business are required to walk someone into the restroom. If you know of such a law, you should include it in your letter.
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I agree
by tickytack Thu November 2, 2006 @ 8:49 AM
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TICKY!!!
by Cass Thu November 2, 2006 @ 8:59 AM
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by *Brenda* Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 7:11 AM
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Can you not see how uncomfortable it may make someone to help a stranger into the bathroom, wait for them to finish, then help them out? Sorry, but I wouldn't do it either. I'd do it if I knew the person but not a total stranger.
You look for your legal resources. Hey, people sue for everything nowadays, why shouldn't you? (That was sarcasm, in case you didn't get it).
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by p d Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 1:38 AM
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I highly doubt it's the law to assist disabled people.
I'd say they didn't do it (and I don't blame them for refusing)because of the possibility of her falling while assisting her.
It's not up to employees to assist people in that way.
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Personally
by tickytack Thu November 2, 2006 @ 9:25 AM
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by Applejacker Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 1:32 AM
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You have provided few, if any, specifics as to what exactly happened. But "..I have stopped sharing these letters publicly.." seems to show that you have a previously driven vendetta, rather than a specific complaint.
"..sanction Costco for breaking the law, by not assisting disabled customers.." I'm sorry but there is no such law.
"..Costco employees REFUSED to walk her.." Be specific. Names. Locations. Date and time. Just WHO refused???
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Again..WHO?
by Applejacker Thu November 2, 2006 @ 11:59 AM
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