Movies at the Hilton

What exactly does this have to do with you not being a prude? It makes
no sense at all. Besides that, there is a difference between nudity in
art and nudity in a pornographic film. For someone with a supposed
college education, you should know this.

Also, if you have a college education, you should know that with any
hotel you go to, every room gets the same thing broadcast on their
television. There's really no way that they can block certain
television channels to individual rooms.

I think your problem is that you complain too much and that maybe your
husband needs to get himself some anger management help. Also, buy
your kid a box of Eggo so he'll know not to order waffles at Chili's
anymore and that he can just have a waffle when he gets home!

First of all, you other posters are hysterical. I laughed until I
cried. Second of all, I just had to add this for the OP's sake, taken
straight from the "National Child Care Information Center's" website
(nccic.org). Copied and pasted:

[QUOTE]Dakota County, Minnesota
FAQ - At what age may a child be left home alone and for how long?
(2000), by the Dakota County Attorney's Office, states:
There is no Minnesota law that states at what exact age a child must
be before he or she may be left home alone or left under the care of
another child. There are general laws, however, that require adequate
and appropriate supervision of children. County child protection
offices are required to investigate and enforce that general law. As a
result, Dakota County Child Protection, a part of Dakota County
Community Services, has adopted a policy, which defines those
situations when it will investigate a report of children who may be
inadequately supervised.
The policy is as follows:

IX. LACK OF SUPERVISION
A. The decision to assess the reports of unsupervised children will be
made in light of the following considerations, according to Dakota
County Community Services policy:
1. The maturity level of the children;
2. The accessibility of the parent, guardian, caretaker or responsible
adult by phone or in person;
3. The physical or mental health condition of the children;
4. The behavioral history of the children;
5. Whether a young child is using a stove, iron or appliance which
poses a danger because of their age;
6. Whether the parents have discussed an escape plan or held a fire
drill with the children;
7. Whether the residence has a smoke detector;
8. Whether there are unusual hazards in the home;
9. The children's reaction to being left alone;
10. The ages of the children being cared for;
11. Whether the child has completed a Baby-sitting Clinic; and
12. The reliability of the person that the parent has chosen to
provide supervision.[/QUOTE]

Notice numbers 2, 6, 8, and 11.

#2 - There was no way to reach you if something happened to them.

#6 - You did not say whether or not you discussed an escape plan for
them.

#8 - A hotel room is not child-proof.

#11 - Did your 11-year old complete a baby-sitting Clinic?

If you said "no" to any of those, then you're children were not
allowed to be left by themselves.

The above information is also here:
http://www.co.dakota.mn.us/Departments/Attorney/FAQ/WhatAgeChildLeftHo
meAloneHowLong.htm

Man, the Internet is awesome!

I still think that you are prude. You again had to throw your snobbish
nose in the air and mention your degree... WHO CARES. Even a high
school student knows the difference between nude art and pornography.
You are a tool. Accept it.

haha this is hilarious, "The hotel was rather nice and we especially
enjoyed the breakfast, although the price was a bit high." you went to
the Hilton, of all hotels, and called it pricey? WOW.

Oh and I am sure you left for only a few minutes, you said your
children were on the bed and the movie was already to the point of
them touching eachother. This is funny because, I do not have a degree
in pornography or anything so I can not boast about that, but from
what I know, most pornos do not start out with the clothes off, in
fact most take a while to get to that point. So I am quite sure that
you were not gone for a "few minutes." By the time they took to get to
the movie, and then to get to that point?

Oh, and do you really think all business men like to watch porn in
their room when they stay at a hotel on a business weekend? Because
from what I know, most of them use the room for sleep, not
masturbation.

LOL.
"My husband and I were out of the room for only a few minutes." should
be read as:

OKAY Y'ALL, MOMMY AND DADDY IS GOIN' TO GET DRUNK. Y'ALL STAY HERE
AND JUST WATCH THE TEEVEE.

They were probably gone for hours.

"I am sharing because I was surprised to find that anyone can just
turn on pornography, even though the
majority of the American public does not approve of this sort of
thing"

I guess I missed this line when I first read this letter back in
November. Why would they offer porn if no one watched it? They
wouldn't. Also, if the "majority of the American public" doesn't
approve, why is it a multi-billion dollar industry?

In this particular letter, you shouldnt have left your kids alone.
REPEAT. You shouldnt have left your kids alone. EVERY hotel has
pay-per-view. So you not knowing about it is crap.
As for the charge, of course it should have been refunded. But you
don't really have the right to blame the hotel for your negligence. If
your children had been supervised, they never would have seen the
porn.

Ok Dora,

Now I'm going to be kinda harsh here. #1 I stay at the Hilton in
Nashville all the time. You have to select what you want to watch and
they charge to your bill or you can watch the free TV. Now as a
parent you can use the "Parental Lock". This is available at all
motels/hotels. You seem naive in the sense that the Hilton is
responsible for what you as the parent allows your children to watch.
#2 Your children does not need to be watching any type of nudity in my
book. You as the parent are to pre-watch programs before hand. It is
good you've discussed the issue of sex with your children with
pedophilers today. With child abuse as prevalent today they could be
marked as a target. Esp. family members.

#3 Now as a mandated reporter I hold you completely responsible for
leaving your children unattended. This is one of my worst pet peeves.
Now if something happens to them out of your site you would want to
blame the Hotel, right? When in fact, DCFS should have been called.
Were you down stairs in the Sports Bar having drinks? See we all have
been to the Hilton. My son is 24 yrs and married. I never lefted him
unattended. This is a form of abuse you know this right? You are the
one that would be helded responsible if something would happen. You
know like leaving your children at home unattended.
That's is against the law as well.

#4 The hotel can not feed Satellite TV to just certain Rooms.
Satellite is hooked up in all the rooms. You decide what you want to
watch.

You put yourself at risk by writing such a letter. I do not agree
with Pornography myself, but you as the parent must not have taught
your children it's wrong. You must have forgot to tell them they can
not purchase any movie without your permission, too.
But if you had been in the room you would not have had to write this
letter.

Be responsible adults and parents. Selfishness is the key to all
diasters. You remind me of friends we would go to nashville with,
they let their kids run wilded and then was ashamed if they got into
trouble or they would want to blame the hotel.

Hotels/Motels provide rooms not a babysitting service. Parents that
send their kids to the pool unsupervised wants to blame the facility
for any accident that my transpire.

You are responsible until they turn 21years old. If you don't believe
me call an attorney and see what advice they give. While your calling
ask how you could be held reliable if something happened to your
children while you were out of the room. The same applies to leaving
them unattended at home.

Take my advice, think before you do. There is always someone watching
especially parents these days.

Abuse comes in all forms.

A. Ph.D.

Hmmm the lady doth protest too much. So if "at no time did my husband
use any four letter words" is true, Dora, what does he call you?

Wow. My husband and I have stayed at Hiltons with our daughter
(currently 11 y.o.) numerous times over the years. Never left her in
the room by herself, because I actually give a damn about her safety,
but even if I did, she wouldn't order a porno while I was out. She a)
has a clear understanding of what types of movies are appropriate for
her to watch, and b) would ask for permission before even ordering a
movie. Kinda sad when a hotel gets blamed for parents who have
parenting issues and children who are unable/unwilling to behave
appropriately (or received inadequate parenting, period).

As a former hotel manager, one a Hilton property, one a Choice
property and one a Intercontinental property. All of the mentioned
properties had porn. There is NO WAY to retrict which rooms recieve
porn until check-in. All rooms have to be made available to all
guests. You must be pro-active in your care of your children. You can
not expect Hilton to be responsible for what your kids watch on TV.
Thats your responsibilty.

Now, why did you leave your children alone in your hotel room? Never,
EVER leave children un-attended in a hotel! Fires and other
emergencies happen. Small children are not mature enough to
understand evacuation procedures. Most properties but not all can
suggest care-givers for a fee. As from my experiece most kids left
alone will not stay in their room. I had one mother who left her 7
year old alone with her 2 year old to run to a grocery store. I found
the baby walking around the balacony that is directly above the pool.
One small slip and that child would have drowned! THINK!

The food and hospitality industry is not here to kiss your patootie
(culo). You have already proven that you are a big (grande) whiner.
You can stop writing letters (letras) now.

Signed,
The Members of Planet Feedback

Run! It's back in the top 25!

It
Will
Not
Die

First let me say I am a businessman, I travel all over the country
every week. And, my company usually puts us in hiltons or some other
hotel affilliated with Hilton. So on with your letter...


Never paid for breakfast at a hilton hotel, they alwasy give me mine
for free (maybe cause I'm a diamond member??? hmmm)

The movies that are avaiable, are at many, MANY hotels, and are not
owned or regulated by the hotel in question. You're actually lucky
they gave you your money back.

Speaking of money, $6.95 for a porn??? That's a good price, you
should commend your kids for being bargain porn buyers. :)

As for the porn, I've checked a couple of those out, and they aren't
worth getting upset about, you'll see much worse (or better?) on HBO.


And the comment about the majority of the country not accepting Porn,
is just ridiculous. What you must have meant is that the majority of
the country just don't want people to know they watch porn, cause they
care what everyone thinks about them. But, you said you let your kids
watch certain movies at home. Sounds like your are saying they can
watch porn at home, while you talk them through it. But, then again
you said you don't like them watching strangers touching each other.
hmmm... Does that mean you let them watch movies of you and your
hubby doin' it? That sounds alot worse.

Anyways, sounds to me like you have alot more to deal with in your
life than your kids seeing strangers touching each other. Personally,
I see nothing wrong with it. Maybe if americans weren't so frigid
about sex (and SO much more), life would be alot nicer, and easier.
And I could listen to music without the stupid *BLEEP* everytime they
say something...

I'm staying at the Hilton the weekend of the 19th. I wonder if they
have any waffle porn?

I just got back from a business trip. I didn't stay at a Hilton,
but...

THERE WAS NO PORN IN MY ROOM. And I'm a "businessman."

When I requested a room, via my company's travel web site, it said I
was getting a "Business Room." I immediately thought of Dora and was
SURE I was getting one of her special "businessman" rooms with porn.

But, no. Just HBO.

Dang.

I am assuming you enjoyed the breakfast because they had"WAFFLES".....
am I right????!!!!! Don't you people ever stay home? Oh yeah, you
left your 11 and 8 year old in a hotel room alone....I would not do
that even for a second. That is just asking for trouble. Did you
take the key to the mini bar? I mean if you watch porn you usually
want a few drinks too!!!!

I don't know why I feel I must respond yet again to one of your stupid
postings, but I will. Have you ever considered that you or anyone
else in your family should ever accept responsibility for any of your
actions? Your children did something wrong. When you blame the world
around you for their problems, you only teach them they are not
responsible. Good luck.

If no one watches porn and hates it, Dora, why is it such a
multi-billion dollar industry? Also, your art degree or whatever else
you think accredits you as some kind of expert here is irrelevent.

I am puzzled as to why you thought it prudent to leave your children
unattended in a hotel room in an area you were unfamiliar with. Your
kids watching porn, in that case, is the absolute least of your
worries. What if one or both were seriously hurt and required medical
care? Do you realize you could be found negligent for leaving them
unsupervised?

I do hope you are aware that The Hilton and its ordering channel are
not responsible for monitoring your children or what they watch; that
is strictly your job. If don't want your children watching porn,
which is reasonable, you need to take control of the situation, even
if that includes the not so fun aspect of not being able to leave your
kids in a hotel room alone and go do adult things by yourself.

Seeing as you received compensation for the price of the adult movie,
I'm not entirely sure what this complaint was about.

~A

Personally, Dora..Can I call you Dora? Dora, I think you just have a
need to complain. You probably don't even realize just how much you
complain. I suspect nothing makes you happy, most normal and expected
thing disgust you, and I'm guessing you and your husband have few
friends. People like you are a societal pain in the ass. You revel in
being dissatisfied. Honey, that's a sickness. Plain and simple. Take a
self-inventory, girl. Please!

Your complaints are moronic. I'll give you the rude waitress at
Chili's but her rudeness pales in comparison to you and your family's
ridiculous demands. You're a fool and with every word you write you
look more stupid by the minute. Quite sad.

lol waffles at chillies. You really live in la la land. Speical
rooms for businessmen....lol.

hey everyone...give Dora some slack...when she left her kids alone,
they were out searching for the waffles that CHILI's would not
completely remake their kitchen and menu for her....

what a piece of work.....

Lady after reading your ridiculous letter to Chili's, I've come to the
realization that the only thing that you have a degree in is white
trash. Have a nice day.

This is the seconded time you posted this, unless I'm pyschic

First, if you are staying at the Hilton of course the prices are high.
The doesn't take a master's to figure out.

Second, why would you leave your children alone in a hotel. And if
they were alone long enough to order porn it was more than a few
minutes.

And the only reason you mention your degree is because you think you
are better than everyone else and you think that everyone should
worship you. Get off your high horse and discipline your children.

Maybe you should learn to parent your bratty children.

Did you not just say in your letter to Chili's that your husband said
a "four letter word"!? Surprise, you did! Judging by these two
letters, your children are going to have horrible problems caused by
bad parents when they grow up. I feel sorry for them that they are
being raised this way. I would not say you are a bad person-you are a
selfish, snobby, rude person who complains about every tiny thing! If
you had so much money like you claim, then why are you demanding all
kinds of discounts over meaningless incidents? You are obviously one
of those idiotic people that just complain no matter what. Okay, the
Hilton did offer a blocking of those channels! Hello? What more can
you ask than that? Seperate rooms for business men? Give me a break,
I'm sure your high-class husband watches enough porn for every
business man in NC because you are so prudish and unwilling to admit
YOU ARE WRONG.
Get over youself and your high-class status. And please, for my sake
never ever come to the Chili's that I work at. Or at least give us
fair warning so we can clear the wait list (god forbid you wait to eat
for 20 min), get you your precious waffles, surround you by other
scholars and geniuses, and post pornographic pictures everywhere...

Dear God, you're a flavor of stupid that should never have been
allowed to breed.

You're feeding this amazing lack of personal responsibility into your
children as though it's anything remotely resembling logic. The
people who've accused you of building up these ridiculous ideas of
entitlement, and they're ABSOLUTELY right. The world doesn't revolve
around you. It's not there to cater to your whims and desires or fall
worshipping at your feet just because you arrived.

Are you so desperate to validate your existence that you feel this
need to constantly remind people of what you think your credentials
are? That you "succeeded" in bagging a rich man and popping out a
couple of kids? I have news for you, sugar, that doesn't take BRAINS
to accomplish. So the more you say it, the more pathetic it comes
across. Only those frantic to believe they're special and
unforgettable behave in this uncouth, revolting fashion.

Get some class, get a clue, and get a life.

You are a terrible human being, and you should stop inflicting
yourself on the public.

I bet your husband plots your death every day.

If she's having such problems with her kids, my wife and I can't have
any kids and we'll be happy to adopt them, sadly, we don't have master
degrees, so they will have to settle with going out once a week.

Hoo boy.

Just read your OP re: Chili's and wanted to express my condolences for
the lack of social graces and personal responsibility your Art Degree
at Duke taught you.

As the wife of a restaurant manager, I should also express my sincere
gratitude for people like you; you keep our conversations filled with
laughter.

Psychoanalization, go:

You were born to a lower upperclass family.
In high school, you were C+/B-.
You didn't have the looks, but you had the money and the attitude, so
you were popular enough. But the REAL popular girls, the ones who had
the looks, the money, and the attitude, always looked down on you and
made fun of you. This built up in you a bitter resentment and a need
to prove that you were even bitchier than the bitches,
If you had been born into the current young generation, you would have
had an appearance on the "My Super Sweet Sixteen" show.
In college, you didn't start out knowing what you wanted to do. You
didn't particularly enjoy any of your high school classes, so you
didn't really want to study anything. But hey, you weren't at college
to learn, you were there to get drunk and stretch yourself out.
You eventually decided on some meaningless major with a low workload
like ancient art or communications.
You knew you wouldn't need to make money, because you'd just find some
sugar-daddy to whore yourself out to.
Looking back, you, in a way, pity yourself. You see immense pile of
waste that was your life and you look in the mirror and feel
vulnerable.
Because of this vulnerability, you feel the need to criticize everyone
who is not a member of your class in order to feel better about
yourself. However, you do go after the ones who just deserve it, you
only go after the people that you know have to let you win the
arguement, like store clerks, waitresses, stewardesses, etc. You just
don't have the confidence or will power to fight anyone who doesn't
have to let you win.
Your bitching becomes even more powerful when you know that the fault
is your own. For instance, when you leave your kids alone to watch
pornography, which you, having visited countless hotels, know is easy
for kids to do, you blame the hotel.
Your Husband works most of the time, which means you are left to raise
the spawn.
He's glad that he spends time away from the kids because he, from what
I've read so far, quite obviously hates your kids. He just wanted to
bang some floozie.
The obvious outcome of this tragedy is that your children are stupid
enough to try to order waffles when waffles aren't on the menu, while,
at the same time, your husband likes to publicly humiliate them by not
sharing his menu, thus beginning an entire ridiculous event.

Am I in the ballpark?

"My husband and I allow our children to watch certain movies at home,
with us."

"There is a difference between my children seeing me getting dressed
and my children watching strangers touching each other in private
places."

I think you having your children watch porn with you and your husband
is directly related to them wanting to watch you undress.

Also, your kids are ugly and stupid.

They weren't watching "Dora does Durham" by any chance, were they?

Thats one of my faves. Its about this huge bitch who thinks she's
smart because she went to college and married the first limp dick
business major she came across.

In the end she gang bangs all the mexican cooks at a Chili's

Its the best

LOL Funny how she actively ignores the questions that come from
someone who is familiar with the town.

You're retarded... It's common sense to check for a channel/movie lock
program in the hotel if you don't want your children watching
pornography. And it's not the hotel's fault that your children are
going through puberty and you aren't intelligent enough to lecture
them on what's acceptable or not...

By the way, you must think your children are pretty stupid to say:

"What we did not realize is that they could just turn on the
television, push a few buttons, and watch pornography."

but then again, why shouldn't you? Especially considering the fact
that they raised by you :)

Now, you're saying that there was no point in this message that you
mentioned money? If you have short term memory loss, why i don't you
just look two lines up at what you wrote? Yep, you complained about
the payment and got a refund, and you even said the the whole incident
was solved. So, if the whole incident was solved, why the hell did you
post it up on here?
It just makes you look like an attention whore(which you probably
are)...

So, at what point in your message did you prove that you were such a
great person? The only thing you mentioned about your beliefs was that
you were against pornography...

Also, stop showing off your art degree in every message you make, it
doesn't prove that you're intelligent in any way. You don't have to be
a genius to be able to paint or draw... Besides, most business men are
bound to smarter than you, so don't bash every one of them based on
stereotypes.

Have a nice day.

chicka bawa...

First strike -

"While I can understand that you serve businessmen at your hotel that
might like this sort of thing,"

So, only travelling businessmen like porn? If I was a "businessman", I
think I would find that offensive.

"I am nude a prude." tee hee

Second strike -
"special rooms for businessmen and other people that like to watch
pornography,"

So, from now on, when registering for a hotel room, the front desk
should include the question "porn or no porn" along with "smoking or
non"???In other words, because you couldn't get a handle on your
children one evening, the rest of the world is responsible?

Third strike - you're out! -
"majority of the population that knows that pornography is not art and
it is not about the beauty of the human body."

The above is your opinion that you are projecting onto the "majority"
as if you have the right to speak for the majority.

"majority of the American public does not approve of this sort of
thing"

Where do you get this information? Just because you don't approve does
not make it the opinion of the majority. There are sex shops
everywhere that make tons, I mean, TONS of cash yearly. The Internet
porn industry brings in TONS of money...these are facts you can look
up (- of course, if the business is legit. Which a good portion of
them are.)

How about this idea? Watch your children yourself. Educate your
children yourself about the choices they make. Stop expecting the
majority of us to cater to your opinion as well as to make up for your
parenting skills that leave something to be desired. (You menitoned
the Chili's post. In that letter - you demand a restaurant give your
child their own adult menu because your husband, who was finished with
his - would not share. You also demanded that the restaurant make an
item that is clearly not on their menu or something that they even
have the capacity to make. In my opinion, you are teaching your
children to be entitlement whores. You know, where the whole world
should cater to them because mommy has an Art degree.)

I'll give you one thing - yes, hotels should consider locking the porn
channels to make them not easy for children to rent. But not for the
reason you are giving - that the majority of people think porn is bad
- but because children are curious beings, no matter what you do, they
are going to explore and see what they can get away with. No amount of
bitching on your part will stop that.

I've found that children are usually at least three years ahead of
where you think they are in terms of mental and intellectual
development. We underestimate them all the time. Clearly, you need
to revisit your copy of "Parenting for Dummies" and reread the chapter
on parental supervision and taking responsibility for your own
screw-ups. Sowwy.

You left your children alone in hotel room and your're mad at the
hotel because you're 11 year old doesnt know better than to order
porn? You realize he had to go through at least two confirmations to
get to the programing, just like ordering a ppv movie? If hes old
enough to be alone with his 8yr old sister he should be old enough to
know better. Porn is a multi-billon dollar industry they are not
going to change anything. Do know how much money they make off of
those movies? I would think to ask about the availablity and blocking
not just porn but all charged movies before leaving my kids alone,
which at that age I certainly wouldnt do in a strange place. What
does your husband saying four letter words have to do with anything?
Im new here but I have to guess from your comment you were the writter
of the chilis comment mad because they didn't have waffles? I wont
even get into that one- you are the person that makes every waitress
and waiter cringe when they see coming. I pity them.

Since the hotel desk clerk was kind enough to give you a tip on how to
prevent that in the future, I would suggest you use it.

Also, in my home we were discussing just this letter and thought
perhaps of another idea (which we are submitting through another
avenue) on how to prevent children from being able to order these
movies.

The "special rooms" won't work--hotels already get enough guff when
they run out of smoking/nonsmoking or king-sized versus double bedded
rooms.

Nothing is ever my fault. Say it with me now...
Is that what you do every morning in the mirror? News Flash!!! You are
the parent. Take responsibility for your children. The oldest is 11?
You can't tell me he didn't know what he was doing? If so then he
should not have been left in a "hotel room" alone. And I'm sure he
knows how to work his Ipod, cell phone, computer, and TELEVISION at
home.
Every hotel that has a tv offers the channels, its how they make
money. You know about that right? Money! Its your thing!
Maybe you should just avoid all Hilton & Chili's. Or for that matter,
avoid all hotels and restraunts, and save the sanity of everyone!

Thanks and have a nice day! LOL

Why is it the hotel's job to police your children?
If they are old enough to leave alone in a room, then you better make
sure you understand the potential consequences of leaving them alone
and that they understand things like, don't rent porn and don't eat
all the $30 cans of cashews and drink $8 cans of sprite out of the
little fridge.
The hotel makes a lot of money on those porn movies and will lose a
lot more money forcing the businessmen to call down to the girl at
front desk and say, "I want to unlock Stinky Sluts Part 4, and please
send up a bunch of clean towels...", than they will losing a family
here or there because their kids a little kinky.

Back to number one AGAIN! >:(

I find it interesting that this 'nude prude' has no problem letting
her children watch her get dressed.

Has anyone called CPS yet?

...I hope you beat their @$$e$. They are old enough to know not to be
watching that sort of thing, and what made them think it was okay to
order it when there probably was some sort of on-screen confirmation
they had to go through stating that they were at least 18 and the
charge of the movie??? Shame on you...you should have taught them
better.

Danjag....... That was a good one!!!
BTW, I am also nude a prude....did you knewed that I was once very
rude and had a feud with the waitress and manager dude that likely
made them spit in my food?????
Ok, now I am sinking down to Dora's level....I know what I just wrote
was quite immature and not all that sophisticated, however this woman
has me so annoyed by her chili's letter that I couldn't help myself...
Although I must say this Hilton letter is not nearly as appalling...
Maybe she should not have left her kids alone in the room... But yes
these things do happen... It is your job to be the parent here...

We really shouldn't discourage Dora from posting.

The responses she inspires are priceless in terms of entertainment
value.

She REALLY does need our help, maybe we can get her to change her ways
just enough to do no further damage to the kids.

Actually, her problem IS with the sex; she MUST NOT have more kids!!!

I am nude a prude. I once knewed a prude who was rude and she kissed
Mike the manager dude.

Hilton is not going to change its policies based on the
laziness/negligence of one so-called parent.

I had no idea you had to request the movies being blocked from the
room. Thats news to me. I think they should ask when you are checking
in if you want to block them or not.
While it seems odd that they would just offer these movies as standard
fair for viewing in the rooms, it seems more odd that more fault
doesnt lie on your children.
At 11 and 8, they are completely old enough to read. If the movie
order section on pay per view is anything like cable, or other regular
movies we have watched on pay per view on vacation trips, you have to
complete some steps to get the order complete.
While the hotel should make people aware that they can be ordered,
your kids should know not to order movies without permisison- period.
I dont think its anyone's place to say wether or not you should leave
them in the hotel room alone- but if they cannot be trusted not to
order porn on the pay per view, than maybe you should reconsider whose
fault this problem really is.

Seems to me this would have been a great time to have "the talk" with
your boys. Especially at thier age, I would have jumped on the
opportunity. I disagree with alot of what your letter says, but I did
not know that you could request PPV movies blocked. I have 3 kids
myself, ages 7,5, and 3. While we have never had an issue like this,
my 2 oldest are very aware of how to use a remote. I could easily see
them ordering a PPV movie. Thanks to you rletter, I now know that I
can request tehm blocked.

Why don't you try watching your kids and quit trying to place the
blame for your shortcomings on others? You did state your oldest was
11. Not exactly somme innocent 3 year old who accidently turned on
some 'dirty movie'. He knew exactly what he was doing. Start being a
parent.

"I am nude a prude."

chuckle chuckle....

Snerk!.....

tee hee hee....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That's amazing.Dr. Freud would have a field day.

I have to ask:

Did the 2 people in the porn movie start their action by kissing at
Chklis?

You know you can request to have the adult themed movies locked, but
it is your responsibility to noticy the front desk. When you assume
that the BUSY hotel with more than one family as a guest would block
the porn makes an ass out of you.

YOU left YOUR children in the hotel room. YOUR children figured out
how to navigate the menu to order a porn movie. YOU had to have the
'talk' with YOUR kids about nudity and respecting other people and
THEIR choices.

I don't see how any of this is the responsibility of THE hotel. Your
kids, your responsibility.

You leave your kids alone in a hotel room?

Good Lord! Your kids cause drama everywhere they go, don't they?

Must be all that excessive sugar from eating waffles with strawberries
on them.

If he were smart he would have changed the channel immediately after
he heard the sound of someone opening the door. He would keep the
remote ready nearby so he could quickly change channels as soon as he
heard something, his parents would never know that he ordered the
porn, and when his parents went to check out and were charged for the
porn movie saying they know nothing about this and are not paying for
something that they did not order he would play stupid and pretend he
knows nothing about it.

First there is Kissing at THE Chili's
Next there's Movies at THE Hilton
whats next Reading at THE Library???

If the facts in this letter were slightly altered and posted by anyone
else would it be a legit complaint?

Say a mother was in this room with her children (same ages, hubby
stayed home with the flu) and she had to take a shower. She walks out
of the bathroom to see her children watching this movie and was upset
and followed the rest of the steps that Dora here followed... would
this be a valid complaint?


I absolutely think that it would be. I have never seen signs that
state you can block PPV channels or pornography. And seriously who
reads everything that is in those binders they keep in the rooms?
Where I do not agree that you should have to request these channels be
turned on there could be more precautionary measures. Like a password
assigned to the room to order such channels and also that applies for
room service or any other addition that can rack up the bill. Kids
don't think about these things all the time. And as adults we
shouldn't expect them to think about these things. My son could have
just as easily came across the hotel menu and ordered room service not
realizing I would be charged. Or ordered a movie without even reading
the prompts.

You can teach your kids whatever you want to teach them but if they
are put into an unfamiliar situation alot of what you tell them flies
right out the window. They get excited and have only their goal in
mind. And I don't think THAT reflects on anyone's parenting. Being a
good parent can only take you so far from there just being a kid takes
over.



**disclaimer** this is no way an attempt to justify what the OP did.
I don't think it was right for her to leave her children in the hotel
room alone. I just wondered if were a slightly different situation
would your views change...

Seriously. What rock do you live under???

"I am sharing because I was surprised to find that anyone can just
turn on pornography, even though the majority of the American public
does not approve of this sort of thing."

Really? Since when? If the American public didnt approve of this sort
of thing then why is the porn industry booming? Whether they admit it
or not there is a very large part of the American population that
watches porn.

Why did you even send this letter to Hilton? If you just wanted to
prove to PFB users that you arent a complete and total jerk you could
have just posted this in you blog or sent it to PFB. You got a refund
on your movie and you were told by the employees at the Hilton that
you could have blocked the channels out yourself. So you really have
no complaint with Hilton. So why send them this letter. And worse yet,
add the whole paragraph at the bottom to the PFB users. Dont you think
that is going to completely confuse the people at Hilton who might
read this? Not only will they be convinced that you are someone who
cant take responsibility for their own children, but they will think
you have just lost it altogether.

Just because you dont want to, or cant seem to, take responsibility
for your own children doesnt mean that everyone who enters a hotel
room should have to have their tv viewing censored. Not everyone
considers porn a bad thing. Instead of trying to restrict the entire
WORLD maybe you should try just watching out for your kids. Next time
dont leave two children locked in a hotel room alone. I am guessing
though that your 11 year old knows more about sex than you think. And
probably more than you do.

I just have to say one more thing.

"I am nude a prude."

ROFL! There is a message in there somewhere. Not quite sure what
yet...but I will figure it out later after I have had some sleep.

Argh! And I thought the parasite had been removed! Going to half to go
talk to my psychiatrist again....But seriously, Dora, if this is an
actual factual happen stance, then well I don't see this as the
hotel's entire fault.

A) You left your kids alone in a locked room and told them to watch TV
(note: you didn't say in your letter what they could or couldn't
watch, but I could just be splitting hairs here *cue the smirk*)

B) Its practically common knowledge that all hotels typically do offer
a more adulterated form of entertainment and no it's not THAT easy to
get it on the TV. As someone who used to work at a hotel though
perhaps not as ritzy as the Hilton there are still plenty of warnings
about what you are purchasing to watch and a lot of steps to go
through in order to obtain the viewing of this material.

C)Now perhaps it's not my place to typically judge people's parenting
skills but it is your responsibility to ensure that this type of thing
doesn't happen, as the front desk clerk informed you they do have
measures to prevent this from happening but you never informed them to
implement these measures.....

D) Hypothetically speaking lets take this scenario: You're at work and
let's say dad is outside mowing the lawn but does go inside every once
in a while to get a drink, wipe sweat, etc. If your son had found
lets say *daddy's bat cave of naughties* and started watching them and
you come home to find out that he did who would you blame? The T.V.?
VCR? DVD player? I mean how dare it let your son watch it without you
expressed permission! Perhaps you might blame your husband for not
better hiding these items but it still comes down to a parenting
issue! You can't blame everyone else for something you do not prepare
for or take into consideration that might happen.

E) Did you know your son would watch this material while you were gone
for that time? Probably not but the fact is that the possibility was
there for it to happen anyways so you should have taken a more
pro-active stance to prevent this.

Some people just love passing the buck onto other people or items that
they say cause all these problems: music, TV, video games, etc. But
ever is it true that it is the PARENT'S RESPONSIBILITY to ensure that
if they don't want their children to engage in said acts then they
should take measures to prevent it. Get over yourself.

Alastor.

Let me get this straight, you failed to supervise your children,
leaving them alone in a strange sity/state in a strange room. Yet you
blame the hotel for your lack of parenting?

wow, you have brass ones.

With all this talk about waffles and pornography, I decided to head
down to the back room of my local video joint.

Wearing a trench coat and dark glasses, I asked the clerk if he could
recommend any good waffle porn.

As luck would have it, he'd just received the latest waffle skin
flick, Debbie Does Breakfast.

Here, for you, is my review. There may be content that is not
suitable for those under 18 (this means you, Zachary) or those with
wheat intolerances. If either of these apply to you, hit the back
button now.

Debbie Does Breakfast is hot! I'm talking "375 degrees in a
pre-heated oven for 20 minutes" hot. I'm talking "I left the coffee
pot on so long that all of the coffee boiled off and now the carafe
has cracked" hot.

It takes place in THE Chili's. A man walks in and tries to order a
waffle and before you know it, everyone is doing it. There's not just
kissing at this THE Chili's.

There's something for everyone. For those that like 'em big on top,
the porn star Popovers is in this one. The scene with her being
coated with honey butter is nothing short of the most erotic thing
ever put on film. Watch as the spreader glides over her small bottom
and top, which BURST free from the pan.

Couples will enjoy the sweat side of Marmalade, who spreads very
nicely.

The Rice Krispies scene is great. Spoon in the bowl. Spoon out of
the bowl. Spoon in the bowl. Spoon out of the bowl. Spoon in the
bowl. Spoon out of the bowl. Spoon in the bowl. Spoon out of the
bowl. Spoon in the bowl. Snap Krackle Pop!

Now, I'm not much of a (hot cross) buns man, myself. But there is
plenty of cruller-donut action to satisfy those of us with more
"straight" tastes.

Now, some may say that they're pandering to something of an
international audience, what with the croissants and flan. The
English Muffins (snicker) are quite tasty, although the Bangers and
Mash were are little hard core for my tastes. And what would a porno
be without the dark skinned Hash Browns and the oversized pork
sausage.

Look out for Yeast. She makes things rise.

Melon. Peaches and Cream. Cherries? Not so much.

The batter-on-batter scene with Belgian waffle and Pancake looks
painful, especially when that big gal from Brussels is on top. Ouch.
And when they whip the button, I simply couldn't watch.

Favorite cheesy line: Yeah baby, I'm going to squeeze you until I get
a full days supply of vitamin C from you juice, Orange! (Said by that
Pop Tart with the blue eye shadow that seems to appear in all of these
films. Tart, indeed.)

But nothing compares to the final scene with that international porn
star, the Pillsbury Dough Boy. Let's just say that this is one scene
that gives new meaning the phrase "Poppin Fresh."

Ah...

I think I need a cigarette.

Or maybe the wife and I will just go off and a feed each other Egg
McMuffin.

Next week, my review of Deep Throat II, The Revenge of the Bacon.

First off, I don't care that you left your kids in the hotel alone.
You be the judge of how responsible your kids are, just as long as you
are willing to be responsible for their actions.
They obviously went through several steps to get to the ADULT MOVIES
and rent one. You left them there alone, you are responsible. Almost
every major chain of hotels offers soft porn on their hotels, if you
were unaware of that you really should get out more, or stay in better
hotels.
As for the majority of people not wanting to see pornagraphy, more
than 60% of the video sales in the US are adult movies. When Sony
released open marketing for VHS but reserved BETA they refused to
allow any X-rated films to be made on BETA. In the first year over 80%
of all sales for home movies were adult, and since BETA din't offer
adult movies people purchased VHS, even though BETA was better
quality. Almost every decent DVD player offers multi-cam view options,
even though very few non-adult movies have the multi-cam ability.
As for the distinction between art and pornography, this is very often
in the eye of the beholder. I do not consider throwing paint into the
air and letting a jet engine splash it on canvas art, and yet those
paintings sell for several thousand dollars. So please, as an "artist"
realize that art takes many different forms and definitions.

In conclusion perhaps you should have simply checked everything out
and asked the adult movies option to be turned off rather than just
leave the children with the TV as a babysitter. Oh, and as a former
traveling businessman the only soft porn I ever rented was the Pamela
and Tommy video simply because I wanted to see what all the hoopla was
about.

wow and people think I complain alot... what age do parents start
leaving their children alot at these days?? I don't think its the
hotel's fault for this. Its called supervision. But when my parents
and I go to PA to visit my sister and brother-in-law, we ALWAYS stay
at the Hilton Gardens and I don't look at the porno movies.. but i DO
happen to look at the movies their playing.. but I can say from
experience.. they are NOT that easy to find. I love it that you assume
business men might want to watch it. So your saying your hubby might
want to? He IS a rich man isn't he? And honey.. if the price was a bit
high.. WHY did you stay there?

Let's see.....you left your children alone in a hotel room and they
ordered an adult movie. I don't care if you were gone for 10 minutes
or 10 hours. What possible excuse could you have to do this? Why
couldn't one of you stay with the kids? Hmmmm, so who's to blame for
this? You.

And, you want Hilton to set up rooms especially for people with kids
(because we all know the world revolves around you) because you didn't
properly supervise your children or take it upon yourself to have the
hotel lock out the channels.

Then, you have the nerve to ask the hotel to refund your money when
you acknowledge that your children ordered the movie, appropriate or
not. Had you been supervising them properly they wouldn't have had
the opportunity to make that 6.95 mistake. Why should the hotel pay
for your error? They were being kind to refund your money. All you
had to do was ask that the channels be blocked on check-in, but that
would require you to be the parent and not Hilton.....

Finally, should something have happened to your children I suppose we
would be reading a complaint letter about Hilton's lack of security.

Dear Hilton,

My name is Junior Edwards and my mom wrote to you when I was 11. I'm
now a businessman and I stayed at your hotel. I turned on the
television to watch some pornography, but I couldn't find anything
about waffles. I think your hotel should show waffle porn. Who wants
to look at nekkid women when you can watch the syrup running down a
buxom Belgian waffle?

My trip was ruined because of this. I want my money back. There is
no record of me ever staying there, but I really did. The room was a
million dollars, for true. In addition, I think I should be able to
get the presidential suite whenever I'm at any of your properties.
For free.

You should also take down all the art in the hotel and put up pictures
of my mommy getting dressed. She has a Master Degree in Art History
and knows that her naked body is more beautiful than any Matisse, Van
Gogh, or Rembrandt. Venus de Milo? Hah! Dora!

It would also been good to have art pictures of my great-grandma
taking a bath and my cousin, who works at The Chili's, showing you
exactly how he reheats the tortillas.

I was quite offended that you have an "H" on the soap. My name is
Edwards, which begins with an "E." Which you'd know if you were as
educated as I. Witch ewe arr knot.

Lastly, I know that the maid stole my sack of diamonds. All maids do
that. I know because when I was a maid, while in college, I stole
like there was no tomorrow. Since that time, I've made it up to
society by fixing elections for neocon wins.

Don't even get me started on the fact that the pillows tasted nothing
like strawberries! They should, you know. Oh, right. You don't know
because you're not as smart as me. Or my mommy.

Sincerely,

Dr. Junior Edwards, Esq., pH D, PE, DDS, LMNOP

Dora,
How blind could you be to think that an 11 year old, and even an 8
year old do not know what pornography is? They ARE at that curious
age. Its ridiculous that you seriously think that your children are
good angels and need to be shielded from harm. They will grow up to be
deviants and have a false outlook on the world.

I agree with the others on this. As someone who has ordered stuff in
hotels (games, movies, even porn!) its not a matter of just "pushing
random buttons." Im sure your kids can read, and they HAVE to read the
tv to find out what to do next and what buttons to push. And, $6.95
for a porno? In a Hilton?! Thats super cheap. Someone else mentioned
it must have been a softcore, and I agree with them. Cause, the porn
in the Las Vegas Hilton was well over $9.99.

You need to sit down with your kids, explain to them that what they
saw is not appropriate for children, only grown ups can watch it.
Don't make it seem like its a bad thing, because it isnt. Then explain
to them that you will need to take the money from their allowance
(maybe split it in half) to pay for the movie, and let them earn it
back, maybe by doing extra chores or something.

Im not going to say youre a bad parent. I was left home alone when I
was your kids age. I was a latchkey kid. No one has any right to judge
anyone else on their parenting skills. But you, dear Dora, need some
improvement. Ive read your Chili's letter, and I am flabbergasted at
how you think the world revolves around your precious family.

I hope one of these days, you and your husband grow up and realize
there's more to life than complaining about waffles at a lunch/dinner
oriented restaurant and pornos at a hotel. Because you are portraying
this type of behavior onto your children and we dont need anymore
idiots in the world.

It is NOT "The Chili's", it is Chili's.

Thank god there wasn't a Magic Fingers bed in the room, too.

Another question since you're so "educated". After you turned off the
movie, why didn't you just all the front desk and tell them and ask
then for them to take it off the bill? Or maybe you could have traded
the $6.95 for waffle.

And should pay the 6.95 back to you, and be grounded.

You need to raise your kids and stop complaining.

Just curious.

I asked this previously.
Tell me, which Hilton did you stay in? The Garden or Downtown?
Must have been Downtown or you'd have whined about the hot tub being
broken too.

Did you enjoy Nashville? Did you check out Opryland? I hear it's
wonderful, esp. since the remodel.

Going by the replies of others (what you get for $6.95) I'm wondering
if this was an "R" movie. Just by reading your two letters I've come
to the conclusion that you've lead a pretty sheltered life.

Anyway your incident reminds me of a South Park episode "The Return of
the Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers" where the kids
accidentally get their hands on the video "Back Door Sluts 9". "I
want my precious....". Best episode I've ever seen especially when
the parents try to explain to the kids what the parents think their
kids saw on the video. I can't repeat it here -- TOS violation.

If you have an 11 year old, he knows well and good what he was
watching. Your 8 year old might even know as well. The fault here lies
on your children for chosing the "ADULT MOVIES" (can your children not
read?) and not on the Hilton for placing them in the right section.

We have received your suggestion and we think it is a good one. We
have architects working on designing the "business only" rooms, and
they have a few questions:

1. Should a a BETA player station be provided in case the business
person brings their own vintage material?

2. Should the beds be round? Water? Heart shaped? Red sheets?

3. Should porn musak be piped into these rooms?

4. Should a complimentary "toy" collection be included next to the
shampoo and shoeshine cloth basket? (the staff is concerned there
would be a high rate of restocking required).

Sincerely, Hilton

Dora, I'm very disappointed that you left out what Peepaw would have
done if he'd seen all that nasty porn on your tv - would he have taken
his belt to the desk clerk, or gone straight to the top?

My ex-husband used to work for a satellite tv service, and I can't
tell you how many times he said people would call, disputing adult
movie fees that showed up on their bill. After explaining just how
many steps the user needed to go through before the movie would
actually come on, most people conceded that it couldn't have been
accidental. Sorry you aren't classy enough to do the same.

I replied to your Chili's letter and I was very crude toward the way
you and your family handled yourselves. I will admit that you did not
complain in this letter at all and did in a way make you seem human.
But the rest of the world does not want to hear about how you would
run things if it were up to you. Just let businesses do what it is
they do, they seem to know what they're doing considering they are
making a lot of money and don't need you butting in and trying to tell
them how to run things. The one point I STRONGLY disagree on you with
is that "the majority of the American public does not approve of
(pornography)" That is completely false, while you may THINK that you
are right, you are very wrong. Pornography is a MULTI-BILLION dollar a
year industry. So you are very wrong with that. While I may not be a
parent, I disagree on how you are raising your kids. You are showing
them what not to do and how to handle yourself in public (Chili's).
Now your making it seem that certain forms of sex are wrong. They are
going to watch pornography or practice those types of acts in the
future, with you around or not. It's better to expose them at a
younger age, just based on how society is now. Sex is happening at a
younger age, so teach them younger. You just need to find better
things with your time than write companies letters of complaint,
because that's what your showing your children are right.

Absolutely! She is a reckless parent with a blatant disregard for her
children's safety. Instead of ranting endlessly to restaurants and
hotels, trying to elicit free services, she should channel her efforts
towards becoming a decent, responsible parent. For the love of GOD,
someone please help her!

I have traveled a lot and stayed in many hotels. The Adult movies
always require extra controls on the remote and extra fees for
accessing them. I just don't understand how her kids could have
"accidentally" come accross one of these movies.

In any case, it's up to the parents to check out the environment they
are puting their kids into.

This is simply a case of a parent wanting to bubble-wrap the world to
keep her kids safe because she does not think to take responsibility
to do it herself.

Good Letter. You showed them the errors of their ways and at the same
time added a new installment on PFB.

Since you got your refund, I'm sure you're happy.

What isn't sitting well with me is why the authorites weren't
contacted?

I think if this happened the way you say it did, a police report
should have been filed, because other people's eleven and eight year
olds might not be so well equipped to deal with what they witnessed
(while mom and dad were where?) and it would help it not happen to
other's kids.

While usually I just like to let management know, in this case, I
think someone should have let the police know too...all the porn I've
seen has harsh FBI warnings against just this sort of thing.

I wonder why the authorities weren't called?

I talked to a friend of mine that works for a Hilton. She told my
that there are SEVERAL steps to go through to get to see the porn.
Including a few that say "If you are over 18 press" whatever number.
You Son COULD NOT have just "Turned on the TV and got Porn" She told
me that loads of PARENTS tell them at the front desk (where she works)
that "We have children, can you please lock out the adult channels?"
It only takes a few seconds when you ask. Also, she said the the PORN
movies cost starting at $9.99. But she also said the there are loads
of Soft-Core on the regular movie channels. Was it perhaps one of
thoes? Not a Hard-Core one.
Well, I got to go, my new edition of Penthouse Letters just came in
the mail and I am going to relax and read a bit!

1. What was the porn movie that your son selected?
2. Did your children enjoy what they saw?

they are all in the Hilton family. Hey, Paris can afford to give you
your $6.95 back!

Personally, I would not leave two young children, no matter how mature
they seem, alone in a hotel. My husband and I would have talked it
over and THEN ONE of us would have done what needed to be done. AND,
yes, Ms. Dora, an instance recently did come up.

As for pornography on the television, can you tell us that your
children figured out a way to order porn? It sounds like to me they
have had some knowledge of this, and if I were you, I would double
check the cable/satalite bill at home. You might also want to double
check your phone bill. I have a hard time believing this was a 1 time
thing for them.

You left your children alone in the hotel room, well lots of people
commented that that was a poor choice to leave your children
unattended in a strange neigbourhood. Well here is what I think about
that. If it was a new place and your chldren have not know their way
around than it is not a good idea to leave them alone in a hotel.
Especially if you don't know whether the neighbourhood is safe or not.
However if you go on vacation there frequiently, and both you and
your children know the area well, than I find no problem with that, as
long as the state/provincal law allows an eleven year old to be left
alone. In some states and in many parts of Canada it is not illegal
to leave your eleven year old alone, however it is illegal for your 11
year old to act as a babysitter over your eight year old, which is
exactely what he was doing if you left the hotel room for a while. It
is on thing to run down and get something, but another thing to drive
away from the hotel and leave your eight year old with an 11 year old
babysitter. You did not say whether you left the hotel or not so I
won't call you on that.

However your 11 year old, or maybe even your eight year old ordered
the porn. You talked to them abot what they were seeing which was
good of you. However as a lesson to the child that ordered the porn,
you should have punished them by taking the money from them. There
was no way for your children just to stumble on the porn, there are
many steps required to order it. At 11 your child is curious and
wants to explore new things, he has probably heard of porn and wanted
to know what it was. I am not concerned about the fact that he
ordered the porn, what I would be more concerned is the fact that he
knew that you would have to pay for the porn and that he ordered
something that you would be charged extra for without asking you
first. At eleven I am pretty sure he understood that you would be
charged for $6.95 yet he ordered the porn without asking you if you
were willing to pay for it. Ofcourse you would have said no but still
a child should be taught not to order anything that will cost their
parents extra money unless their parents tell them it is all right to
do so.

I however was thinking on the same lines as you that they should lock
out all porn selections and let the guest request them. Some people
mentioned that this may be embarassing for some people to ask that the
porn channels be unlocked. Perhaps there is a half way to approach
this, such as all porn channels and R rated movies are blocked unless
a special code is put into the TV before ordering them. This should
be inclused in the paper work that they give to the adult and remain
with the adults at all times so children do not get access to the
porn. This way the guests can still order their porn needs through
privacy and it is not easily avaibable to children.

So obviously this woman does not get out of the house much because
almost EVERY hotel room I have EVER stayed in, and that is a
considerable amount, from the cheapest of the cheap motel 6, to the
high end four seasons all have the option of "adult" pay per view
movies. The hotel chain I stay at most frequently IS the hilton family
of hotels and almost EVERY one of those says in the guest services
book that all you need to do is contact the front desk or guest
services to block out the adult entertainment!!! Very simple, take
some responsibility, it was YOUR child that ordered it, you should not
be angry or complaining to Hilton, you SHOULD be angry with YOUR
child!!!

As for you leaving your children alone in a hotel room in a strange
city, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF!!!! A Hilton does NOT provide
the level of safety your own home would, and although most hotels do a
good job of providing decent security, it IS a public building, and
EVERYONE is allowed in, and if you do some simple research you will
see that Hotel/motel crimes are actually quite high!!!

Dora the Explorer,
My goodness. Your husband must be less than satisfying. You have SO
much time to complain to SO many different companies. Wow, if the
responses you have read do not knock you off your pathetic high horse,
I don't know what will. Once again, you mention the degree. Clearly,
you don't have one. Anyone who did, would surely not throw it in
other's faces over and over again. We are not impressed, but rather
embarrassed for you. Those of us who DO have degrees are ashamed by
your patheitc grammar. Stop writing! Really, please stop. Also, it
is my guess that this is not the first time your kids have watched
porn. By your own description of your husband, he seems to be the
type... I am sure his sock drawer is full of it. Once again, I feel
sorry for your children. Children learn what they live!

How things have changed! If I had ordered porn in a hotel room (or
anywhere for that matter) my parents would have probably just killed
me on the spot. They would have been far too embarrassed to complain
to the hotel and on a public forum about it. I would have never done
such a thing because I was taught respect and knew right from wrong.

eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!! My husband wouldn't dream of being
nude in front of our daughters. I would never dream of undressing in
front of a son at that age either, if I had a son. No WONDER the kid
was watching porn!
{There is a difference between my children seeing me getting dressed
and my children watching strangers touching each other in private
places.}