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Target has lost a $100+ per week customer
Posted Sun December 31, 2006 12:00 pm, by Tonya H. written to Target
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I went to the store on December 30 to brouse through the "after Christmas Sales" and notice that most of the Toy dept was on sale. There were tons of toy marked down to decent prices. I was shopping for my 6 month old SON. I found the "Baby Leaps" Leap pad and noticed that the GIRL or Pink version of it was marked down by $10+ from the BOY or BLUE version. After examining the boxes multiple times and finding no other difference than that the plastic was blue vs pink I asked an associate why the prices were different. He looked at the boxes as well and said "this must be a mistake I'll get a manager and I'm sure he'll fix it". The manager CHAD came over and with out even touching either box said "well the price is what it is you can either buy it or don't" I asked him again can you tell me why there is a difference? He again said "Its just the way it is". So I went to the "STORE manager" REGIE, after waiting on Regie to finally come up to the front of the store he too proceded to tell me basically OH WELL. He then looked into my cart and saw that I had a few other items I had planned on purchasing and the said "Well it looks like you found other stuff you want to buy so maybe come back in a week or two and maybe that one will be on sale." I then said that I wanted to purchase this item now but I wanted it at the price that the PINK one was, and he said "then buy the pink one, but the blue one is that price. END OF DISCUSSION!" I asked for the number for Corprate or Customer service or SOMETHING, and he pointed accross the store to the CS desk and said "Go ask them they might get you the number" and promptly walked away! I was APPAULED! I will never as long as I live shop at another Target again, and Target has been one of my favorite stores for YEARS! SO much for Customer Service, it looks like Target has become just another BIG BOX!
I would like Target to explain to me why they have so much little GIRL stuff on sale and very little little BOY stuff on sale. Its not just this item. In the clothing section of the infants area there is ALWAYS little girl clothes on sale, and rarely little BOY clothes on sale. And now with a toy that is EXACTLY the same thing only a different COLOR, its a difference of over $10 for this ONE toy?
I would also like some sort of compensation for this wasted trip to this terrible store with this horrible manager. I had several other items I WAS going to purchase and because of REGIE I decided against spending ONE DOLLAR at this store, and ended up going to Wal Mart where they didn't have all the things I was going to buy but they had enough of it. Shopping and traveling and such with a baby is difficult enough, but to have to then make a totally seperate stop to get all the same stuff I was going to get was rather irritating!
I would also like the customer service people who answer the phones in like Baghdad, to at least speak english, and pretend to care about a customers complaint, rather than just flat out say I'll take your complaint but no one will get back to you! Why waist my time!
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As a retail manager I can understand why the Target manager was frustrated. People are constantly nagging about the price of sale items, clearance items, and regularly priced merchandise - even for just a few pennies difference. It gets annoying. Target has those price scanner machines on certain aisles so it is easy to double check a price...often times the tagged price is actually higher than the ring price. Most customers don't take the time to do this or don't ask nicely "Hey, could you check this price for me because...." they just stomp up to the counter like an ape demanding money off the tagged price. Customers are rude and disrespectful of retail workers from the cashier on up to the management. In this case, sure, the manager may have explained the situation with a little more tact but who knows what kind of bitch this customer was being?
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by Sean Gildersleeve Posted Sun January 7, 2007 @ 10:21 AM
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Often in retail, what ever is not selling will be marked down to make the product move. Funny enough, color does matter when marking down items. As a former retail manager, color does mean a lot when marking down a product. I have seen the same exact shirt be marked down in only blue but the pink stay regular price. Why? The pink is actually selling and the blue is not, so companies need to make the blue shirt move they will mark it down.
Unfortunately, it is a retail practice that you are a victim of. However, the people were rude and should have explained that to you in depth. I understand your frustration and a good store assosciate would have as well, but they couldn't make it the same price because you wanted it...they would have to do that to every customer and therefore would loose money.
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Yes, the gender thing is completely inflicted by the parents and society. The baby could care less either way if the toy is blue or pink. It's the parents small-minds that make blue = boy and pink = girl. At six months, I am not even sure if the baby can quite determine colors yet anyway. I know for quite sometime, that all they can see is basically black and white and shades of grey...not all colors.
Why does everyone demand compensation? Can't one of these letters just complain about customer service and NOT want some kind of payment? What has this world come to?
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by ALP Posted Wed January 3, 2007 @ 8:56 PM
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I fail to see why your six month old baby is going to give a hoot one way or another if his toy is pink or blue. Is it really that important?
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by HRH Posted Wed January 3, 2007 @ 3:35 PM
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YIU CERTAINLY WERE MISTREATED. A STORE MANAGER IS FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES THE STORE ITSELF AND NOT SOME DISTANT IVORY TOWER EXECUTIVE. THE MANAGER OF THE STORE CERTAILY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO KNOCK A FEW BUCKS OFF AN ITEM IN ORDER TO PLEASE A CUSTOMER. THIS GUY MUST BE SOMEBODYS SON IN ORDER TO KEEP HIS JOB.
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HRH...
by Wolf Wed January 3, 2007 @ 3:42 PM
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by mary jo Posted Wed January 3, 2007 @ 9:39 AM
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I want to know why stores have so much more girl stuff PERIOD! Why is there always more stuff...toys, clothes, ect. for girls instead of boys. There are even entire stores now devoted to just girls! Thats so stupid!! And I would feel the same way if I have a daughter. Why are boys and men so overlooked and ignored?
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True
by Juicy Jade Wed January 3, 2007 @ 1:22 PM
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by freeby4me Posted Fri January 5, 2007 @ 4:27 PM
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That is a very good point that I hadnt even thought of. It didnt make much sense to me that one was cheaper than the other but that makes perfect sense! Thank you for clearing that up!
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by Jeffrey Posted Tue January 2, 2007 @ 12:22 PM
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The difference between these products is, as you've guessed, the color of the plastic.
The reason, I assume, for the lower price on the pink one is that it doesn't sell as well. They likely have more pink ones that they want and therefore are reducing the price.
There are roughly equal numbers of little boys and little girls in this country. 100% of the boys get blue ones. The girls: some get blue ones and some get pink. Let's say 50/50.
Suppose, then, that 1000 kids (500 boys, 500 girls) shop at Target for this item. This means that they'll sell 750 blue Leap Pads and 250 pink ones. If the store stocked 750 of each, that means they'll have 500 extra pink ones!
Sure, they should have realized this when ordering... but the point remains that blue ones just happen to be more popular than the pink ones.
Which brings me to my question: does it REALLY matter if your 6 month old get a pink Leap Pad? I have a son that same age and, frankly, I don't think he cares what color his toy is. Nor do I. My older son (a pre-schooler who DOES know his colors) has a few "girl" items and it really doesn't matter.
And, yes, it does bother me that there are more cute girls clothes. But, I deal with it and I don't boycott Target because, golly, I wish I could buy girls things for my son.
I don't excuse the rudeness you received. However, I can see how your attitude could have rubbed the employees the wrong way. Your demand for compensation is a perfect example of this: it's totally offensive for you to demand compensation because YOU didn't want to buy. YOU are the one that decided to go to Target. Right? Or were you lured there based on the promise of cheap blue toys?
Lastly, I don't think the customer service people are in Baghdad. Some day, maybe. But your little funny does nothing to help your case. It makes you look ignorant or offensive. Not sure which, but I don't think you want to be portrayed as either.
Oh, and it's "waste" not "waist." If you're going to jump on someone for not speaking English, you need to watch your own. We all make typos, but it's a little ironic that YOU'D be making this mistake, since you appear to be perfect.
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by Tina N Posted Tue January 2, 2007 @ 10:52 AM
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I can't get past, 5200 bucks a year... in target.....
How and, more importantly, WHY does anyone do it?
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by tickytack Posted Tue January 2, 2007 @ 10:15 AM
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What's with all the CAPS.
And, honestly - girl stuff and boys stuff?
Get over it. Your SON is 6 months old and doesn't know the difference.
Incidentally, if you're going to complain about someone not speaking "english", you might at least want to recognize that the word should be capitalized.
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by babywewe Posted Tue January 2, 2007 @ 1:14 AM
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Sounds like this toy was on clearance and not just "on sale". When things go on clearance it is because they are trying to get rid of them. Perhapes the company sound having two colors was not needed and will only make a blue one now. OR, most likely, the pink one did not sell very well (girls like blue too!) and they are trying to get rid of the pink ones faster!
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by Sarah Wilkinson Posted Mon January 1, 2007 @ 10:41 PM
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Hmm well perhaps it's better that you save that $100+ per week instead of spending it, just think that would be $5,200+ saved over the course of one year...unless you meant that you spend $100+ per week using a credit card.
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by donno Posted Mon January 1, 2007 @ 10:22 PM
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I only buy a few shapes of pasta - elbow macaroni, thin spaghetti and lasagna noodles.
For some reaaon, when certain brands of pasta (notably Ronzoni) go on sale, only certain varieties are included. Now lasagna is a special case, but I have always wondered why thin spaghetti is not on sale and regular is. Elbow now on sale, bow tie is not. Half the varieties on sale, half not.
This happens with brownie mix also. 8x8 on slae, 9x9 not on sale. Rich chocolate flavor on sale, Richest flavor known to mankind not on sale.
I go to the desk now instead of assuming they forgot to put a sale tag under the one I want. If they tell me it isn't on sale, I put it back and wait for the next sale. Yes, what I am looking for eventually goes on sale and maybe the boys whatever does not. Milk never goes on sale, and I buy it at regular price. Who makes the rules as to what goes on sale and what doesn't? I don't know.
The manager should not have been rude to you. It does sound from your letter that you had a tone with them. There are two sides to a story, and I would be interested in their take. As to who decides what goes on sale, is that someone there at the store? I can see you making the suggestion they consider doing that on your item, but I can't see asking them to honor the price on an item not for sale.
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by Peregrina Posted Mon January 1, 2007 @ 7:30 PM
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Ah, for corn's sake, buy the blooming pink one!
Believe it or not, colors have nothing to do with gender or preference or anything else for that matter. Teaching your kid that 'pink is for girls' just reinforces the stereotypes that females are inherently weaker and/or less worthy.
No one forced you to go to a different store with your kid to buy the stuff. You could have taken a deep look and realized that surface color does not have any bearing on acceptability and bought the toy and saved yourself a lot of trouble.
Oh, and considering the shape that Baghdad is currently in, I think I can say with some confidence that there are no call centers there.
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by JuliePie Posted Mon January 1, 2007 @ 6:10 PM
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Ummmm...O...K...
Why, if travelling with a baby is so difficult for you, would you make separate stops to get all the stuff you needed? I gather from your letter that you found what you NEEDED at Target, and just happened upon this leap pad on sale? Why, when you found out you couldn't have it at the sale price, did you not just get what you NEEDED? Sounds like it was out of spite, and that's just foolish.
It's not unusual for an item in one color to be discounted more than an item of a different color. If they were having trouble selling the pink ones, they probably put them on clearance to get rid of them. I have three boys, and you know what I'd do if I really wanted to get the leap pad? I'd buy the pink one, ESPECIALLY if my kid were only 6 months old and doesn't care about the color, because he's too young to have had "pink is for girls" drilled into his head.
It sucks if you feel the managers were being rude to you, but I get the feeling you were wearing on them a bit.
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by A A Posted Mon January 1, 2007 @ 5:38 PM
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ooooohhhhhhh $5200 a year, look out big spender coming through! Target will be out of business in a week.
Stores have sales to move products they have a hard time selling. Evidently the little boys stuff sells better. Stores do not have sales to save YOU money. They have sales to move slow moving merchandise to avoid a loss.
If Target prices one thing for $10 and a similiar thing for $5, you have a right to question if it is a mistake. If they tell you it is not a mistake, why do you think you can name your price?
Different colors ALWAYS have impact on price. Just think of all the things you buy that cost more if you want them in black. You're out of line.
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by Adam W Posted Mon January 1, 2007 @ 5:15 PM
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If Target responds to your letter, please tell us what it says. Corporate will take your side on this no matter what the people here say.
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They will?
by Jeffrey Tue January 2, 2007 @ 12:24 PM
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by PFBSUCKS Posted Mon January 1, 2007 @ 4:32 PM
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your kidding right? MAYBE they marked it down because they had so many they had to get rid of some. yea... sometimes the colors DO matter...some colors are in more demand then others. u shouldnt get any compensation. Oh by spending ONE DOLLAR u said alot... paLEASE... oh and its "waste".. not "waist".. waist in your body....
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All of this angst-ridden drama could have been avoided had you not been hung up on the 100% ridiculous notion that blue is for boys and pink is only for girls. With a nod to society's preference for gender-specific clothing, there is no harm in just buying him the $10 chear "girl" toy in pink and not making an issue of it.
And as for asking for compensation because you were ANNOYED by a store's policy? Um, rather pathetic.
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I agree...
by CrusadingStarlight22203 Wed January 3, 2007 @ 9:26 AM
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by ~Leanne~ Posted Mon January 1, 2007 @ 1:14 PM
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I do think they could have given or found for you a better explanation for why it was the way it was. I'm not sure that would have helped the situation or made them able to change the price for it but they could have at least humored you a bit with it instead of disgarding you.
Your letter is angry though and many times an angry letter won't be taken seriously.Then you also change the subject and discuss Baghdad employees. I know a lot of stores are hiring people out of the country to take these calls because it is cheaper to pay them than to pay for the same service here.
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Leanne
by Venice Tue January 2, 2007 @ 1:41 AM
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by Lee H. Posted Mon January 1, 2007 @ 12:11 AM
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Others on this site have already corrected your actions Tonya.
As another poster put it, you even wanted the blue version and wouldn't buy the pink for $10 less.
It is further embarrassing for you to request compensation because you chose not to purchase anything on that trip to the store. In the future, you really should conduct your affairs with a little more dignity.
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They did the same thing with game boy advances, most of them were for one price, but one particular colour that is popular was $20 more. They made it more because people are willing to pay more money for a different colour. However by being demanding you probably handled this wrong. Sounds like the manager needed to get firm to stand up to you and make his point across.
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by olie Posted Sun December 31, 2006 @ 11:29 PM
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You admit yourself:
"And now with a toy that is EXACTLY the same thing only a different COLOR, its a difference of over $10 for this ONE toy?"
If it's EXACTLY the same except for the color, why wouldn't you buy it for your son? A six-month-old does not have preconceived stereotypes that certain colors "go with" each gender. You are the one with the problem, not Target.
FYI: I took my infant son to the ER while he was wearing a PINK footed sleeper and a PINK diaper, because that's what he was wearing when he became ill. You use what you've got. I'm not just speaking theoretically when I say that the color doesn't matter. By the time your son will be able to name colors, you'll have bought a different LeapFrog for him. And you, as parents, will be the ones to teach him that pink is a "girl" color and unworthy of him.
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by L E Posted Sun December 31, 2006 @ 7:16 PM
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Of course you're reading WAY too much into this. The system that decides the prices and what goes on sale/clearance is basically nothing more than a computer that looks at inventory levels of each item number. If the inventory is too big, it's going to get a little more of a mark down. The computer just sees two different item numbers and not "boy" Baby Leaps vs. "girl" Baby Leaps. The girl baby leaps didn't sell as well, so they get a bigger price cut. The manager really should have explained this to you, and if your recollection of events is accurate, he did act in an unprofessional manner. However, you lose a lot of points by asking for "compensation for this wasted trip", even though you point out at the beginning that you went to the store to browse and happened to find these deals, you didn't make a trip specifically for this item.
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Although I agree that the way management approached this problem was unprofessional you had no right to demand a sale price on an item that wasn't on sale, no matter how closly it resembled another product.
The pink version was probably on sale because it didn't sell as well as the blue one.
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