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UPS Illegally Forwarded Bill to Collection Agency

Posted Fri January 5, 2007 10:13 pm, by Suzan K. written to United Parcel Service

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Dear Sir or Madam,



In July 2006, I used United Parcel Service to ship packages from Washington, DC to Denver, CO. Since then I have called UPS over 50 times requesting to pay for this service. UPS refused to charge my credit card or send me a bill for shipping my packages. Instead, it directly sent the amount I owed to a Collection Agency. I'm not sure why UPS chose to use a Collection Agency as its Billing Department.



UPS' billing mistake has negatively affected my Credit Reports and caused unnssassary mental physical stress. I'd like your help to correct this problem. I made multiple efforts in good faith to resolve this to no avail.



After this mistake is corrected, I'd like to discuss the poor Customer Service I recieved and a loss of a package, as well as $2,500 reimburcement for the time and money that I invested in attempting to correct this problem.



I look forward to hearing from you by January 19, 2007.



Thank you for your time and help!

Suzie Kuc

I would like my bill taken out of collections immediately.


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by MommyG4 Posted Thu January 11, 2007 @ 8:04 PM

Unless you are sending these packages from a company that has a
collect UPS #, I do not understand how they would ship without funds.

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by Jeffrey Posted Thu January 11, 2007 @ 3:29 PM

How interesting that Suzie is able to send packages without up-front
payment, but Mamacita is told that they can't pickup her misdirected
packages until they get money.

Since when does UPS deliver a package without getting payment? Do
they usually just take down your name and address, refuse payment,
deliver the package, and then turn your name over to collections?

Something doesn't make sense. Suzie, how about some details on how
this actually happened.

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by LibbyA Posted Wed January 10, 2007 @ 12:32 PM

LMAO $2500.00??? Surely you are kidding, right? Dang, what is up with
all the gimmeoinkes on PFB anymore? That sense of entitlement that is
completely ruining our country....pitiful....

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It must be gimme pig mating season by tickytack Wed January 10, 2007 @ 3:13 PM


by tickytack Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 12:59 PM

Since when is it "illegal" for a company to send a bill to
collections?

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Hey, good point by donno Mon January 8, 2007 @ 10:15 PM


One of the less-publicized definitions of "illegal" by calm Wed January 10, 2007 @ 10:37 PM


And popcorn - don't forget about popcorn! (n/t) by tickytack Thu January 11, 2007 @ 10:33 AM


:) I figure that if I make liberal use of the free gambling losses part of the deal the casino will comp me on the popcorn. n/t by calm Thu January 11, 2007 @ 11:49 AM


Just as long as you don't have to sit by a pool with chlorine in it! (n/t) by tickytack Thu January 11, 2007 @ 12:44 PM
by Ryman Posted Sun January 7, 2007 @ 6:02 PM

Ok, I am usually the first to put down UPS. They are horrible beyond
comprehension. They have lost packages of mine, delivered to the wrong
address, and never accept responsibility for their carelessness.

But..... you are leaving out some information here. Never heard of a
business refusing to accept payment. Somethin's fishy!!

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In the old days I felt like you by donno Sun January 7, 2007 @ 8:09 PM


*snerk* by DragonflygrrlTheGreat Mon January 8, 2007 @ 8:53 PM

by Lee H. Posted Sun January 7, 2007 @ 9:02 AM

I would agree with some of the other posters that this letter reeks of
errors and questions.

My guess would be you have no proof of really trying to pay your bill.
Simply stated, it makes no sense that UPS would not accept payment
for their service. I further question what you think you are trying
to accomplish by sending a letter through a third-party website.

If you do have proof that you were trying to pay the debt, contact UPS
directly and speak to their customer service or billing department. I
guarantee they would be willing to resolve the issue. On the other
hand, if you were trying to make up your own payment procedures, as I
would guess by reading your letter, then they've taken the correct
action by turning it over to a collections agency.

You now have the option of disputing the debt directly. In such a
case, they will likely to continue reporting your negative credit and
further take possible legal action. All of which could increase the
cost you owe to them.

Assuming you accept responsibility for the debt, and have no proof of
previous attempts to pay, you should really pay the debt directly
though the collection service.

The claim for distress really is ludicrous and does little to bolster
backing for your cause.

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by nick l Posted Sun January 7, 2007 @ 12:35 AM

"I would like my bill taken out of collections immediately."

Then pay it. Problem....solution!

UPS wouldn't let you pay your bill after you called then trying to
resolve it? Yeah, okay, sure, whatever. What color is the sky in your
world?

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by Gino Version 1.2 Posted Sat January 6, 2007 @ 10:28 PM

I have to agree with the others... somethings been edited or omitted
from this letter. Not that there may not be an error, if there is,
then, yes, your credit report should reflect that fact and why it came
to be. It just seems odd that the loss of a package is tossed in late
in the letter, right before an expectation of a HUGE compensation.
The deadline just sours the letter more.

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by JuliePie Posted Sat January 6, 2007 @ 6:16 PM

So if you called UPS over 50 times to try to pay this bill, I sure
hope you have documentation for at least some of these phone calls:
date you called, name of person you spoke with, and what the
conversation entailed. If you do, I should hope that UPS will help get
this off of your credit report.

However, you do not deserve $2500. You deserve your credit report to
be fixed, and nothing more.

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by A A Posted Sat January 6, 2007 @ 4:23 PM

This must have been a package picked up on account. UPS.com has an
online account payment option. Why didn't you pay it there? Also, if
you have an account (I assume you must or else the payment would be
upfront), you can request a paper bill.
They must have given you a reason to not let you pay, and a reason why
they wanted to pay a collections agency a portion of what you owed to
get their money.
So either it was an account screw up and they never charged your
account and had nothing to accept a payment against- in which case
they would not send YOUR account to collections, or else you tried to
pay with a credit card they don't accept like a Diner's Club, or an
expired card etc.

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by donno Posted Sat January 6, 2007 @ 1:45 PM

I find it hard to believe that UPS would refuse to chanrge your credit
card. Why would they turn you down if you were begging to pay them a
bill you acknowledge and that they were obviously trying to collect?
50 calls! Wow, I had major trouble with a large company a few months
back, and called many many times until they gave me acceptable
customer service. I'd say I made about 22 calls.

Some major information is missing. What is the reason this could not
be resolved before it was sent to collections? I am quite confident
UPS does NOT use a collections agency as its billing dept.

Now that it has been sent to collections, to get your bill "taken out
of collections" my guess is you will need to pay it. UPS has nothing
to do with that.

As far as your request for compensation, it makes no sense with the
information we have this far. If UPS really made some error that sent
your bill to collections while you were begging to pay it, you may
have a case. But I don't see any scrap of evidence here.

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by MA Loper Posted Sat January 6, 2007 @ 11:01 AM

OK, Suzan

Can we please suspend the hyper-exaggerated drama for 2 minutes here?

First off, UPS did nothing illegal. You might think you're being real
tough to throw that into your letter, but it just drops your
credibility.

You owe the bill, you didn't pay (for whatever reason) and they sent
it to collections. They are fully in their right to collect the debt
you owe (and admit to owing) them.

I have to wonder if you have any proof that you contacted them 50
times. If this is true, there would have to be SOME record that you
attempted to contact them and pay the balance.

Secondly, they should be paying you? Wow! That's incredibly bold of
you.

Finally, IF (and I am being REALLY generous to say IF) this story is
true,you can contact the credit bureaus and have them investigate the
charge. If you are found to be telling the truth, they'll remove it
from your credit report. But the burden of proving they are wrong is
on you and I doubt you'll be able to conjure enough proof to show that
UPS is wrong.

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::Sigh:: Mel is back, all is right with the world again! by Firebrat Tracy Sat January 6, 2007 @ 11:03 AM


by mary jo Posted Sat January 6, 2007 @ 9:43 AM

No no no no no no no.

Sorry. There is some MAJOR information missing here. They refused to
let you pay your bill and then sent your bill to collections? No. It
doesnt work like that.

I dont buy this store for a second.

And now you want 2500 dollars?! LOL! Yeah. Thats gonna happen. Are you
willing to take this story to Judge Judy? I am sure she would LOOOOVE
to hear this one.

From my experience, once a bill is sent to collections, its out of the
hands of the company who sent it there. You need to deal with the
collection agency directly at this point. Then again, as soon as you
knew the bill was sent to collections you should have dealt with the
collection agency directly.

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There has to be more to the story, I agree... by Tina N Sat January 6, 2007 @ 9:55 AM


Is it at all possible ... by calm Sat January 6, 2007 @ 10:24 AM


I just know what I was told by mary jo Sat January 6, 2007 @ 11:41 AM


Usually.. by Harleycat Sat January 6, 2007 @ 12:14 PM

by Courtney C Posted Sat January 6, 2007 @ 2:35 AM

wait a minute. You're actually claiming that you called UPS 50 times,
BEGGING to pay this bill and they REFUSED to take your money? Sorry,
something doesnt add up. And something also tell me that UPS would
have a completely different tale to tell. Sounds like a good plan
though. Don't pay a bill.. and then sue THEM for stress!

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Re: UPS Illegally Forwarded Bill to Collection Agency by Tina N Fri January 5, 2007 @ 11:01 PM

Disagree by Peregrina Fri January 5, 2007 @ 11:50 PM

Tina doesn't know about that by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 4:30 AM


Once again by Courtney C Sat January 6, 2007 @ 4:34 AM

So you went all the way to Denmark..... by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 7:09 AM


ok, that's it by Courtney C Sat January 6, 2007 @ 7:11 AM

Adam by Homebound Sat January 6, 2007 @ 8:32 AM

Adam by CrusadingStarlight22203 Sat January 6, 2007 @ 9:34 AM


Adam by Somebody! Sat January 6, 2007 @ 9:57 AM

I'm tired of being called a stalker by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 11:19 AM


Her and EVERYONE else who sees your posts. by Tina N Sat January 6, 2007 @ 11:29 AM

I spend more time in her blog by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 11:35 AM


You spend more time in her blog... by Tina N Sat January 6, 2007 @ 1:24 PM


The only way to kill a Heather is to ignore it.. by Somebody! Sat January 6, 2007 @ 11:40 AM


Excuse me? by Courtney C Sat January 6, 2007 @ 11:51 AM

LIAR! by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 11:56 AM


shut up adam by Courtney C Sat January 6, 2007 @ 11:57 AM


You HAVE chosen to share your personal life, BOY. by Tina N Sat January 6, 2007 @ 1:26 PM

You are stupid by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 1:32 PM


You do... You whine. You act like a drama queen. by Tina N Sat January 6, 2007 @ 5:34 PM

and the stupidness continues you by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 6:18 PM


That shows what a loser you really are.... by Tina N Sat January 6, 2007 @ 6:49 PM
by Adam W Posted Sat January 6, 2007 @ 6:52 PM

I guess we are both losers.

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by Tina N Posted Sat January 6, 2007 @ 6:54 PM

That's your word, boy, not mine.
I don't hate. Never have. It's not worth the time or effort it takes
to hate anyone.

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ok by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 6:59 PM


I'm not sure if I called you a Heather. Your name is Courtney. by Somebody! Sat January 6, 2007 @ 1:11 PM

lol n/t by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 1:33 PM


i don't know what YOUR issue is by Courtney C Sat January 6, 2007 @ 3:58 PM

Is this true? by Suiren Sat January 6, 2007 @ 3:05 PM


apparently by Courtney C Sat January 6, 2007 @ 4:11 PM

You want to be protected? by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 6:16 PM


leave me alone, creepy stalker boy by Courtney C Sat January 6, 2007 @ 6:57 PM

As usual by Adam W Sat January 6, 2007 @ 7:01 PM


Oh, yeah, A lying thief's opinion of me REALLY matters. LOL by Tina N Sat January 6, 2007 @ 9:53 AM

Why don't you go watch your movie or something? n/t by Juicy Jade Sat January 6, 2007 @ 10:29 AM


I have to agree with you. by mary jo Sat January 6, 2007 @ 9:55 AM




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