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by Jack Clark Posted Tue January 23, 2007 @ 5:13 PM
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Sounds like a scam artist to me. Looking for a tag in a shirt does not sound like "fondling" to me. Is this a man or woman? This is a goofy frivilous complaint.
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by Not so disgruntled anymore Starlight22203 Posted Fri January 19, 2007 @ 11:21 PM
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Did you have to pay extra for that?
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by Buddy Posted Mon January 15, 2007 @ 7:03 AM
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Troll.
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by Ann W Posted Sun January 14, 2007 @ 8:25 PM
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Why did you not contact the store manager and then the police? I am sure the whole incident was caught on video tape.
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by franese Posted Sun January 14, 2007 @ 12:36 PM
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If I were inappropriately touched by an employee, I would immediately complain to a manager - not ask for "freebies".
And Justin, oversized people don't wear "medium" - you might want to get your facts straight when you're trying to scam a company for feebies.
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...all the freakin' hilarious comments to this letter.
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by ALP Posted Sun January 14, 2007 @ 3:55 AM
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If this employee thinks he needs to be touching you and bothering you after you've asked him to leave, split his lip open. Most everyone understands the quick, universal language of a punch in the jaw. He'll go away.
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In your case, I think you should thank goodness you weren't looking for jeans!!! ;)
question for you: how many shirts will it take to erase the tremendous trauma that you suffered? One shirt? Two shirts? How many? Three shirts and one gift card?
ugh!
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by Michael Vermont Posted Fri January 12, 2007 @ 1:27 PM
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Can I have the exact address of this store?
I could use a good fondle...its been awhile.
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by Betty Posted Thu January 11, 2007 @ 6:51 PM
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I have some questions:
1.) Did you assume he worked at target because he wore a red shirt? (was he even an employee?)
2.) Are you sure this employee was not someone who is mentally challenged, because target hires people like that to do tasks such as car collecting and re-stocking. From what went on, I feel pretty strongly that this person was indeed mentally challenged.
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by donno Posted Wed January 10, 2007 @ 11:55 PM
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He looked kinda nice and so I said I "I'm a medium"
When he reached he held me tight
And when he touched my neck that night
All the lights were shining bright
And then he touched me.
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So, what denominations do Molestation Giftcards come in?
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by donno Posted Wed January 10, 2007 @ 12:42 AM
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then just turn away.
Leave me as you found me,
sized not as you see but as I say.
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by CrusadingStarlight22203 Posted Tue January 9, 2007 @ 9:09 PM
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Here's my view of this...
On the subject of "oversized" and medium: I have always worn XL no matter how small I was (which at my smallest I was only a medium). Say he would need a small to actually fit him but he would rather have a medium.
On the subject of touching: While I am touchy feely with my friends (mind out of the gutter you pervs), I am very uncomfortable with a stranger touching me. I don't like it if they touch my arm. I don't like to shake hands with a stranger to be honest with you. And I certainly wouldn't like a stranger to touch my neck. Now I doubt the validity of the letter. The writer seems to be a little... on the odd side judging by his other letter and his overt concern for free swag. However this brings up a very good issue for ALL public places and ALL people. What you see as normal societal contact could be embarrassing to another person.
This letter COULD happened. When I worked retail I was more than willing to push a customer along if it was closing time and I needed to straighten whatever it was they were rummaging through. I could see an associate trying to "help" a customer find the right size and if they had an overzealous personality they just may be brazen enough to check someone's tag for them.
While this writer's credibility has been shot, the situation itself is more than possible.
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by Not Erik Posted Tue January 9, 2007 @ 2:54 PM
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This letter touched me, man. It touched me deep down inside.
Who can I complain to about that?
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HA!
by donno Tue January 9, 2007 @ 6:50 PM
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by Juicy Jade Posted Tue January 9, 2007 @ 2:33 PM
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When I saw the title of this letter, for some reason I was thinking "touched" such as inspired or something.
Justin, you are an excellent creative writer. I think you could write some really funny stories. But I think this letter slightly misses that target.
Also, I hardly think you were "fondled". If he did the "old reacharound" he would have touched you somewhere completely different!
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Looks like it might be vc's best way of getting lucky in the new year.
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Ok, now see
by CandyPickletoes Tue January 9, 2007 @ 12:07 PM
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DO NOT
by vc Tue January 9, 2007 @ 12:15 PM
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by mamaw Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 11:27 PM
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By the way,since he was so close to you in his red shirt......what was on his name badge?? He was certainly close enough to see that right?
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by mamaw Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 11:22 PM
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No way. To begin with,since it was Xmas time as you stated,there is no way that you got one on one help from a salesperson. Especially, in Target or any other store for that matter. Most staff is on the registers or stocking the store. I was in retail for years and unless you were in a very upscaled store, you would only have gotten some personal attention if you were shoplifting!!!!
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I agree with all of the other posters.
If this had happened to me I would have spoken with a manager on duty right away.
But to address the "oversize" question that other posters have, maybe he's a little person. Or maybe he is a short, skinny guy and he meant he was looking for an oversized sweater and M is oversized for him. I think he just worded that sentence badly.
:)
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by MommyG4 Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 10:13 PM
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You had me until you wanted them to send you things.
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by donno Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 9:59 PM
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Because you are an oversized person, but you told him you are a medium.
He probably was very confused, and so he thought he'd help you figure it out. Why let you go home with something that will end up at the returns desk with an irate customer attached to it?
As to whatever else you thought went on, I am fairly confident it was incidental. Unless you believe you are so attractive that even though you were declining his "advances" he just wanted to cop a feel anyway.
By the way, you need to educate yourself a little more about shopping online. It is safe if you do it correctly.
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I've read all the answers and some of you caught some things and pointed them out -- I guess I should have read the letter better, eh?
Liar liar pants on fire
Hanging by a telephone wire
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I haven't read any responses. I'm expecting to find them split as to supporting this letter.
I am a person who does not hug. I do when I have to but I don't like it. My friends hug -- they usually let me off the hook. If a stranger invaded my personal space as happened to you, I'd probably get pretty vocal and pretty verbal.
I have to say, Justin, my first instinct is to tell you, "You should have spoken with a manager right away," or something like that. But I can imagine being so shaken or irate that you just want to get the hell out of there. Then you go home, try to forget about it, but over time, it still bugs you, and you're a bit embarrassed about the whole thing so you don't want to go to the store to talk with the manager, so you send in a complaint via this medium.
I can totally imagine that happening.
The demand at the end for compensation was the only Eff up. Too bad.
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by Peregrina Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 8:06 PM
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I'm torn about this letter. I was with the OP until the gimme grab at the end, but there is still a valid complaint here.
I hate being touched by strangers. When I worked at the fabric store, it was not unusual for me to move to the other side of the cutting table (and it wasn't a small table) to avoid having customers touch me. No joke, one time I threatened a customer with my scissors because he would not back off and another time I yelled at a female customer who kept moving closer even after I kept moving back.
In restuarants, more than once I've 'fondled' my knife or fork in an unspoken threat to touchy waitstaff. (I usually go the unspoken route because to speak up is to leave oneself open for ridicule. It's amazing the assinine things people will say when I tell them not to touch me. I've actually had total strangers (!) ask me if I was abused or molested, hence my dislike of being touched. No, I just don't like strangers touching me.)
That being said, in the situation the OP describes, I would have been quite vocal in my requests for the clerk to back off. I also would have told the manager before I left the store.
One last thing though, since when is M 'oversized'?
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Yes, but
by tickytack Tue January 9, 2007 @ 8:09 AM
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True, that
by tickytack Tue January 9, 2007 @ 3:10 PM
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by tickytack Posted Wed January 10, 2007 @ 4:21 PM
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What I am saying is THIS IS NOT A CASE OF IT!
Incidentally, I used to work in a job where I was SERIOUSLY sexually harrassed - it was to the point where I made it a point of not ever allowing myself to be in the store (it was a weekend job) alone with the owner because I would be grabbed and fondled against my will. He would say "you're my mistress, aren't you?" while trying to grab at me, rub up against me and drag me into the back where no customers could see. I told my friends, but no one else.
I NEVER REPORTED IT BECAUSE I WAS SCARED TO.
And I should have because it was seriously upsetting and frightening and I eventually quit (no serious loss; I had a real job to fall back on but needed the money from the second).
So don't give me this bullshit that I'm "stupid, bigoted and insensitive". I am saying simply that a) I do NOT believe this incident ever happened; b) the OP could and should have reported the ASSAULT to the manager at once (come on, are you seriously going to sit there and tell me that in the middle of a TARGET he was seriously in physical danger from the employee?).
You are taking a minor incident - albeitly annoying, if it did, indeed, happen, and turning it into a major incident which it wasn't, and I am VERY sure those who have actually been sexually assaulted and/or harrassed (the latter of which, as I mentioned, I have been) would not appreciate you making the comparison.
In this case it would seem you would be the ignorant one.
The issue here is not whether a true victim could report an assault after the fact. No one is disputing that s/he could. The real issue here is why the OP is writing a rather silly letter to corporate headquarters rather than having had taken the time to seek out the manager and point out the offending employee at the time of the oh, so scary tag grab.
YOU are comparing this to rape and sexual harrassment. THAT is going too far. This isn't it.
And incidentally, I defy you to post where I ever called anyone a "baby".
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by tea_granny Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 7:27 PM
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I doubt very much that he "FONDLED" your neck. I think he may have inadvertently touched your neck as he was reaching for the tag.
Do I think the clerk behaved unprofessionally? Yes.
He obviously has a lot to learn about boundaries, personal space and comfort zones, especially if he is trying to make a sale. It's usually best not to make the customer feel uncomfortable or as if they have been violated in some way.
I just wonder at your almost homophobic attitude. If it had been a female clerk, would we be reading this letter?
Or, is it even homophobia. Perhaps you are a gay male, or perhaps the sex of the clerk was irrelevant. I don't know, as you are a perfect stranger to me.
I only have your letter.
I just think it's ridiculous to make claims like this, smudging the reputation of a clerk that you don't even know, or even dirtying the name of a business, just for the sake of a few free shirts.
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by Jeffrey Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 6:31 PM
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I didn't see anyone post this, but...
Take a look at the OP's other post today @ http://www.planetfeedback.com/index.php?level2=blog_viewpost&topic_id= 295100
In this letter, he refers to himself as a "bed buddy" and it includes the quote "No, no, I will not let you into my superman sheets."
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by vc Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 6:23 PM
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Whoa. Deja vu.
This exact thing happened to me once. Except I wasn't at Target. It was more of a "gentleman's club" and I was just trying to see what size bikini top a girl had. That's all, I wasn't fondling her, I swear.
I think the lifetime ban was a little extreme however.
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by mary jo Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 6:18 PM
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Oh...I wish someone would fondle my neck.
ROFL!
This is sick. Besides there being far too many adjectives in this letter to take is seriously, there are too many things that I just flat out dont believe.
I dont believe anyone fondled your neck. How DOES someone fondle a neck anyway.
Maybe you were giving him some kind of mixed signals. Maybe he thought you wanted him to fondle your neck.
Your letter is so far over the top that no one will take it seriously.
I certainly dont.
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by Gino Version 1.2 Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 3:54 PM
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How sad. Every little innocent thing rises to the need for free stuff. Not only that, but it sullies people who REALLY get fondled and find the courage to come forth.
Justin, I suggest you drop the Mossimo Shirt and run, don't walk, RUN!!!! to the nearest police station and file a report. The earlier you do it, the fresher the ahem "facts" are in your mind and this neck fondler will be taken off the street. Think of all the others you'll save from the same treatment!!!!
I don't believe you for one second. Get a job and buy your own clothes! And remember to read Target's return policy----you lie about them and they don't want you to return.
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by Humorous Erik Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 3:48 PM
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You know, with most people, it's very difficult to find out exactly how much their pride is worth to them. But with you, it's simple. Apparently your pride is worth the cost of some nice shirts, or gift cards so you can do your shopping online without a credit card.
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by Mr. Mafia Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 3:35 PM
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Oh please you had a valid complaint until you asked for freebies. Also there points number 2 and 3 are the same.
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by JuliePie Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 3:23 PM
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Maybe he wanted to ensure that you were purchasing the correct size so that you wouldn't have to return it (sans receipt, of course), and write a letter complaining about their return policy.
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by Cass Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 3:21 PM
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Y'know, I almost believed you, not that he was trying to fondle you, but that you just ran into a very pushy employee, until the gimmee grab.
If this really happened, you should have been WAY firmer with the employee. Tell him "take your hands off me". If he does not, YOU remove his hands from you. Then you speak to the store manager - right then, right there, point out the employee and tell the manager what happened. What do you think they can do about it now, since you don't have any identifying information to let them know who it was?
Hey, maybe Target's idea of "some nice shirts" will be those red shirts their henchmen wear, and they'll send you a couple of those!
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by S. Brown Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 1:59 PM
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". . . send me some nice shirts, or gift cards . . ."
Yeah - - right - - I don't believe a word of this one. What did the manager say when you brought this situation to his or her attention? And I do think that your request is asking too much.
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by >Leanne< Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 1:54 PM
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While I don't believe he actually 'fondled' your neck, I do believe he crossed a line by having to physically check your tag to satisfy his own curiousity. It's none of his business what size you are currently wearing and if he needed to see, he should have asked you if he could take a look. At that point you could have told him no. But he didn't give you that opportunity as he just took a liberty and I can see you feeling violated. If you were a woman and it was a larger size for example, that would be crossing an additional line of privacy and cause for embarrassment. Which, in fact, is why many women do cut the tags from their clothing! But also tags are annoying anyway. He had no right to pass judgement on whether or not you keep them in there or not.
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Exactly!
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by kerrisan Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 1:47 PM
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Justin, I can appreciate your concern. In this day and age, things are just . . . weird.
However, unless this guy has a neck fetiish, I doubt he meant anything by it.
I think that a few things were misread here. Are you sure that the tag comment was meant to be an accusation?
He gave you some good advice. He told you that you should not cut the tags out of your clothing lest you forget what size you wear. You are not perfect; you might forget, I know I do. I doubt he was accusing you of lying about your size.
I think this whole situation has been blown out of proportion. The employee was trying to help you; he was not "touching you innapropriately." I highly doubt you will get your freebies.
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by nick l Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 1:33 PM
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Yeah, okay, whatever.
The employee touched you inappropriately, and instead of notifying the manager or the police about it, you just posted a letter on PFB demanding freebies.
I totally believe you...NOT
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by Tina N Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 12:40 PM
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{A fancy Mossimo sweater caught my eye, and I began searching for the color/size combination most suitable to my oversized needs.}
You said that, above, then told the clerk you wore a medium???
If you are truly "oversized", then the clerk was looking because he, obviously, thought you were lying.
Now... What did the manager say about your being "fondled"? You DID approach the manager, right? Someone touches you inappropriately, you either deck'em, call the police, or take it up with the manager.
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by tickytack Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 12:03 PM
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"I would like you to send me some nice shirts, or gift cards so I can do my shopping online without a credit card"
You're joking, right?
Please tell me you're joking.
What utter greed.
If you were inappropriately touched, may I ask why you didn't go directly to the service desk and ask for a manager?
This is my first of the day, but here goes: SHENANIGANS.
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by p d Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 11:55 AM
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"I wear a size medium, I would like you to send me some nice shirts, or gift cards so I can do my shopping online without a credit card.
I do not think this is asking too much. I was inappropriately touched by an employee."
Ah, this is why you didn't get the store manager involved and why you don't want to use your credit card. FREEBIES.
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by Jeffrey Posted Mon January 8, 2007 @ 11:20 AM
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If this happened as described (and I have no reason to doubt that it did), it seems that this person has crossed the line. While I don't, personally, think this is at the level of "inappropriate touching" or "fondling," it's still over-the-line behavior.
This is, absolutely, a matter to be raised immediately to the manager on duty.
As for your issue on online credit card use...
Personally, I think your fears are misplaced. What makes you think that when you slip your credit card into the little slot that your information is safe? Ever HAND your card to someone?
If you've ever given your card to a waiter, who took the card away, you're at risk. As much as purchasing online.
And, given that you have no liability for fraudulent use of your card, you have little to worry about. Unless you're also revealing your SSN or something else that would lead to identity theft, you're fine.
Don't worry about it. Shop online.
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Oh I WISH
by mary jo Mon January 8, 2007 @ 6:24 PM
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