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No, Starbucks, I Dont Want the Cookie on the Floor!
Posted Thu February 22, 2007 12:00 pm, by Shaun B. written to Starbucks
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My wife works at a Target that has one of those embedded Starbucks stores in its food court. Being that she was having to work a little late, I indulged in a bad habit and stopped to get a white chocolate mocha and a cookie.
Imagine my horror when the countergirl dropped the cookie on the floor, picked it up, and actually still tried to offer it to me, saying 'Sorry, its the last one'? I'm not in college anymore, I dont live on the five-second-rule...I asked for a refund of the cookie, which I got along with a bit of attitude from the barista.
Take a moment to re-educate your employees on food handling and customer service skills. I dont think there is any chance of me ordering something edible from that location again...just on the chance they did something that I didnt see. You wont get ME back there, but at least this way you wont lose more customers with these habits.
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by Phil Banasiak Posted Mon February 26, 2007 @ 2:34 PM
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That's nasty. I know Starbuck's are usually clean, but hello, sanitary issues do apply. She should have thought twice before handing it to you. They are usually good at apologizing or giving a refund when I go in. They even gave me a free drink on my previous birthdays. Oh well. Maybe you got a bad cashier person. It sounds like she just didn't want to get in trouble. Being new, maybe she thought, "If something happens to it, do I have to pay for it out of my check." But, still that's not your problem, right.
I hate stupid customer service people. It drives me crazy !!
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by Juicy Jade Posted Sun February 25, 2007 @ 10:30 PM
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When I was 16, I worked at a fast food restaurant. During a rush one time, I accidently dropped a hamburger patty on the floor. I tried to cook a new one, but the manager saw me and made me put the dropped patty on the burger. I VERY reluctantly did so.
She was more worried about food cost and the customer's wait time. So, who knows, we all have probably eaten something that was dropped on the floor.
But I do have to say that in this case, that the barista was most certainly in the wrong, as was I back when I did that. I wonder what the barista's manager would have to say?
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Well I don't see anything wrong with eating a cookie off the floor that had been picked up right after it was dropped, but I don't think that you should have gotton an attitude about the refund.
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Zach
by mary jo Sun February 25, 2007 @ 12:10 AM
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by Gino Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:03 PM
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While I do think it was disgusting to offer a customer a cookie that fell on the floor, and your complaint IS valid, I don't think we can trust every establishment we go to, especially food stores. Can you imagine what goes on that we don't see?
As for the five second rule, even when I was in college, I never bought into that concept.
Although I hope they take you up on the suggestion, I wouldn't let this one incident keep me away from Starbucks Stores- They've always given great service and their stores are spotless.
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by Starlight22203 Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 2:14 PM
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Seriously... who DOES that? Ick.
Great letter. Valid complaint. I hope you hear something back though I don't think this is a matter of bad training so much as someone done raised that girl wrong.
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by "The One and Only" MA Loper Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:58 PM
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I believe that Starbuck's is only franchised to the Targets which makes the barista a Target employee, not Starbuck's.
You should have spoken to the LOD there at the Target - I don't think there is much Starbuck's corporate can do for you.
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by Aimeyir Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:32 PM
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I think this was well handled, no, "I want free coffee for life and that girl fired, railroaded, exiled, and excommunicated!" demands. As someone who has worked in foodservice for a very long time, if I had done that, I would have immediately thrown it away, explained what happened, and offered a replacement of a different type or a refund right there. THERE IS NO 3 or 5 SECOND RULE, FOLKS! If bacteria is present on the floor at all, as soon as the food hits, the bacteria's on it.
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by franese Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:22 PM
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I think this is a good letter - no hysterics, no apology asked for, no you need to fire this person.
The only problem I see is that you didn't let them know which Target this was. I can't imagine what the countergirl would sell since she seemed to have no problem selling you a cookie that she knows you saw fall on the floor.
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I know the OP has said in this thread that all he wants is for employees (or just this employee?) to get a "refresher course."
Here's some food (hahaha!) for thought: Anyone who actually needs to be told, "If you drop food on the floor, do not offer it to a customer. Instead, discard it and make note of it on the waste control sheet." HAS NO BUSINESS WORKING IN FOOD SERVICE.
You can't TEACH someone common sense things like that. Either they get it, or they don't. If she hasn't figured something that basic out by now (age 16? 20?), then I doubt a refresher course from corporate will get through her head.
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by Jeffrey Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:52 PM
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I used be a contractor for a health department. It was always fun walking into a restaurant with my ID displayed. You cannot imagine the service that I'd get.
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LOL....
by dawniedawn67 Fri February 23, 2007 @ 3:57 PM
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That's disgusting, and no it is not being blown out of proportion. If the employee did something like that in full view with customers watching, I can only imagine what their hygene standards are like when nobody's around. Starbucks should have every reason in the world to want to put a stop to this: if a health inspector had witnessed it they'd have been in for a world of trouble, not to mention terrible publicity.
The only way it even would have made a little sense is if the employee were clearly joking: "Are you sure you don't want the one that fell on the floor? Ha ha, just kidding, here's another one." But that doesn't sound like it was the case.
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by mary jo Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 11:41 AM
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I was already to jump in saying how you are blowing this out of proportion, ect. But after reading all the responses I think I got a little different perspective.
To be honest, if someone dropped a cookie on the floor and then offered it to me I think I would have done the same as you. Especially if they got bent out of shape about giving a refund. It isnt that I would be mad they dropped it but it would greatly offend me to be offered a cookie that had been on the floor.
Its a disgrace that she did that. Even worse with the attitude.
I think experiences like this is exactly what corporate wants to hear. And I think they very well might put everyone in the company through a little re-training or at the very least send out a company memo highlighting proper procedures. Maybe speaking to a manager might have been better but in this case I dont think it really matters.
This is a good letter.
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The only question I have (though directed toward no one in particular):
If the employee dropped the cookie and she was the only one who knew about it, would she have said anything?
It's food for thought, so to speak.
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Right
by >Leanne< Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:06 PM
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by Righteously Indignant Erik Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 9:59 AM
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You turned down a floor cookie? Holy crap, those are the best kinds of cookies. What the heck's the matter with you?
Mmm. Floor cookie.
Anyway, I have to agree with ticky. You're taking this way too far. You got your money back, no one made you eat the floor cookie. The matter has been settled. All this letter serves to do is make you look vindictive.
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Like I said...
by Righteously Indignant Erik Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:37 AM
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by DragonflygrrlTheGreat Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 9:25 AM
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I have to wonder, does your wife know you are writing this letter? I mean, if my husband wrote a letter complaining about my store, I'd be a little peeved if he didn't let me know first. And I'd be really peeved if he proclaimed that he would never again patronize a store where I worked. Also, what did the manager say when you told her?
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No manager
by impy Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:10 AM
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The Starbucks inside Target are operated by Target employees. You needed to ask for a Target manager.
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by tickytack Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:23 AM
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I'm not saying by any means that you have no right to be grossed out by being offered a cookie that was dropped on the floor. That is, indeed, nasty (and quite audacious of the clerk to try to pass it off).
I just think you're taking it too far.
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All?
by impy Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:17 AM
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Good point
by tickytack Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:57 PM
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That too or
by >Leanne< Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:05 PM
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by tickytack Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:19 AM
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I think you are overreacting BIG TIME. You didn't accept the cookie - I don't blame you for that - and you got a refund. This was a one time thing and you claim there is no "chance of [you] ordering something edible from that location again."
It's the first time it happened. Probably will be the only time. You didn't eat the cookie. You didn't have to pay for the cookie.
"With these habits" - again, it was only once. Since when is doing something only once a "habit"?
My advice? Get over it.
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by Cass Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:17 AM
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This is a very good letter and a valid complaint. I give you props for not demanding freebies and/or the employee's head on a plate.
But I take exception to your dismissal of the five second rule. I am out of college and I still abide by it! 'Course, that's just in my own house. And sometimes in my office - if the food I dropped is something I really, really wanted. 10 second rule if it's chocolate. ;-)
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by Blackrack Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:12 AM
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You dare question the five-second rule!?
Okay, okay, it was disproved on Mythbusters, which makes floor cookies officially ew. I carry around a bottle of hand sanitizer, so if someone offered me a cookie they had dropped on the floor (the floor of a public store, no less), I think I'd go a whiter shade of pale.
It's a health concern, and good for you for writing a literate, non-dramatic letter without a demand for free stuff. After reading a letter like this, I think I'll bypass Starbucks and spend a little more money at Tim Horton's...
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What about the 3 second rule?? Did she take longer than 3 secs to pick it up..did she not blow on it..to remove the dust??
Ok.. I was being a smarty pants!!! ;)
This letter is very well written. I do so very much love the fact that you didn't go ballistic and ask for $1 gazillion coupons for free cookies to last you and your family until the year 5000! ;)
I do believe you did the right thing to write to corporate..as yes.. as someone said it could be handled at the local level..but, I'm sure that a "re-education" of ALL employees, no matter what location.. will do some good!!
Good letter.. good luck to you!!!
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by vc Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 7:53 AM
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by Giselle Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 7:07 AM
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This is a definitely a well-written letter with a valid complaint and no demands for free cookies from Starbucks for the next 500 years. The idea of someone offering someone else food off the floor is insane. I would have said "I am so sorry! I just dropped the last type XXXX cookie we have! Yikes. I apologize. Do you have a second choice"?
At this point, the customer will do one of four things:
1. I'll take that cookie you dropped. I can just wipe it off.
2. Sure, I'll have a piece of lemon cake instead.
3. I want a refund.
4.. #%#$%$#%#$ I wanted that cookie!
If the customer went with #1, #2 or #3, thats a no-brainer. But if number 4 is what he is leaning towards, this is the part where you (I hope) are empowered to do something to make this customer happy. Like offer a different type cookie, cake, muffin, SOMETHING and comp it. I don't know how empowered Starbucks employees are though. I think, personally, that companies should empower employees to do simple things to keep a customer happy. But anyway, that is just my opinion....I'm sure there will be posters coming along soon who will say OH MY GOD!! Its just a COOKIE! GET OVER IT!!! Whatever. Bottom line: employees should not offer customers food off the effin' floor and a request for a refund on SOMETHING YOU DID NOT EVEN GET TO EAT BECAUSE IT WAS DROPPED ON THE FLOOR should be met with a cheerful "absolutely, I will refund your money immediately".
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by Nigel Posted Thu February 22, 2007 @ 9:34 PM
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She gave you the option - which it was extremely unlikely (but not absolutley certain) that a customer would reject - of taking the cookie. You chose not to do so. Big deal. If she had thrown it away without offering it to you, you probably would have complained about that.
Try keeping things in perspective.
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by donno Posted Thu February 22, 2007 @ 9:23 PM
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Maybe I forgot how PFB works, but will the location be known so that the employee in question can be included in the education? I would think that management of this particular location should know it happened there so that they can address the situation. My hope would be this is isolated and not something that would happen at the average location with the average employee.
This was a very well written letter as the other comment pointed out. No freebee request; no bad attitude. You show a genuine concern for improving customer service.
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by PaintedLady Posted Thu February 22, 2007 @ 9:06 PM
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I think this is a very good letter; to the point, no unreasonable demands, and completely understandable. What a nice change.
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