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No, Starbucks, I Dont Want the Cookie on the Floor!

Posted Thu February 22, 2007 12:00 pm, by Shaun B. written to Starbucks

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My wife works at a Target that has one of those embedded Starbucks stores in its food court. Being that she was having to work a little late, I indulged in a bad habit and stopped to get a white chocolate mocha and a cookie.

Imagine my horror when the countergirl dropped the cookie on the floor, picked it up, and actually still tried to offer it to me, saying 'Sorry, its the last one'? I'm not in college anymore, I dont live on the five-second-rule...I asked for a refund of the cookie, which I got along with a bit of attitude from the barista.

Take a moment to re-educate your employees on food handling and customer service skills. I dont think there is any chance of me ordering something edible from that location again...just on the chance they did something that I didnt see. You wont get ME back there, but at least this way you wont lose more customers with these habits.


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by Phil Banasiak Posted Mon February 26, 2007 @ 2:34 PM

That's nasty. I know Starbuck's are usually clean, but hello, sanitary
issues do apply. She should have thought twice before handing it to
you. They are usually good at apologizing or giving a refund when I go
in. They even gave me a free drink on my previous birthdays. Oh well.
Maybe you got a bad cashier person. It sounds like she just didn't
want to get in trouble. Being new, maybe she thought, "If something
happens to it, do I have to pay for it out of my check." But, still
that's not your problem, right.
I hate stupid customer service people. It drives me crazy !!

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by Juicy Jade Posted Sun February 25, 2007 @ 10:30 PM

When I was 16, I worked at a fast food restaurant. During a rush one
time, I accidently dropped a hamburger patty on the floor. I tried to
cook a new one, but the manager saw me and made me put the dropped
patty on the burger. I VERY reluctantly did so.

She was more worried about food cost and the customer's wait time. So,
who knows, we all have probably eaten something that was dropped on
the floor.

But I do have to say that in this case, that the barista was most
certainly in the wrong, as was I back when I did that. I wonder what
the barista's manager would have to say?

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My restaurant did the same thing by RedheadWGlasses Mon February 26, 2007 @ 1:24 PM

I had a similar experience as a teenager. by TwinkleToes Mon February 26, 2007 @ 7:46 PM
by Prefect Zachary Posted Sat February 24, 2007 @ 11:49 PM

Well I don't see anything wrong with eating a cookie off the floor
that had been picked up right after it was dropped, but I don't think
that you should have gotton an attitude about the refund.

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Zach by mary jo Sun February 25, 2007 @ 12:10 AM

Think about it..... by dawniedawn67 Mon February 26, 2007 @ 9:18 AM


by eydieville Posted Sat February 24, 2007 @ 8:57 PM

Pretty icky. Just be glad it wasn't Taco Bell/KFC in NYC.

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That is exactly what I was thinking when I read Zach's comment above! by donno Sun February 25, 2007 @ 11:14 PM

by Gino Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:03 PM

While I do think it was disgusting to offer a customer a cookie that
fell on the floor, and your complaint IS valid, I don't think we can
trust every establishment we go to, especially food stores. Can you
imagine what goes on that we don't see?
As for the five second rule, even when I was in college, I never
bought into that concept.
Although I hope they take you up on the suggestion, I wouldn't let
this one incident keep me away from Starbucks Stores- They've always
given great service and their stores are spotless.

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sound advice from gino!!!!!! n/t by Giselle Sat February 24, 2007 @ 1:46 PM

by Cee Dub Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 4:02 PM

To echo what another user said, make sure you go through Target as
that particular Starbucks is employed by Target. It is a "licensed
concepts" establishment meaning Target is licensed to sell Starbucks
products.

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by Starlight22203 Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 2:14 PM

Seriously... who DOES that? Ick.

Great letter. Valid complaint. I hope you hear something back though
I don't think this is a matter of bad training so much as someone done
raised that girl wrong.

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done raised that girl wrong by Bill R Fri February 23, 2007 @ 3:50 PM

by "The One and Only" MA Loper Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:58 PM

I believe that Starbuck's is only franchised to the Targets which
makes the barista a Target employee, not Starbuck's.

You should have spoken to the LOD there at the Target - I don't think
there is much Starbuck's corporate can do for you.

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RE: Technically... by Cee Dub Fri February 23, 2007 @ 4:00 PM

by Aimeyir Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:32 PM

I think this was well handled, no, "I want free coffee for life and
that girl fired, railroaded, exiled, and excommunicated!" demands. As
someone who has worked in foodservice for a very long time, if I had
done that, I would have immediately thrown it away, explained what
happened, and offered a replacement of a different type or a refund
right there. THERE IS NO 3 or 5 SECOND RULE, FOLKS! If bacteria is
present on the floor at all, as soon as the food hits, the bacteria's
on it.

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by franese Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:22 PM

I think this is a good letter - no hysterics, no apology asked for, no
you need to fire this person.

The only problem I see is that you didn't let them know which Target
this was. I can't imagine what the countergirl would sell since she
seemed to have no problem selling you a cookie that she knows you saw
fall on the floor.

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by RedheadWGlasses Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:19 PM

I know the OP has said in this thread that all he wants is for
employees (or just this employee?) to get a "refresher course."

Here's some food (hahaha!) for thought: Anyone who actually needs to
be told, "If you drop food on the floor, do not offer it to a
customer. Instead, discard it and make note of it on the waste
control sheet." HAS NO BUSINESS WORKING IN FOOD SERVICE.

You can't TEACH someone common sense things like that. Either they
get it, or they don't. If she hasn't figured something that basic out
by now (age 16? 20?), then I doubt a refresher course from corporate
will get through her head.

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by Jeffrey Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:52 PM

I used be a contractor for a health department. It was always fun
walking into a restaurant with my ID displayed. You cannot imagine
the service that I'd get.

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Were you on duty at the time? by dawniedawn67 Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:56 PM


The funny part... by Jeffrey Fri February 23, 2007 @ 2:20 PM

LOL.... by dawniedawn67 Fri February 23, 2007 @ 3:57 PM


by Andrew Lenahan Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:26 PM

That's disgusting, and no it is not being blown out of proportion. If
the employee did something like that in full view with customers
watching, I can only imagine what their hygene standards are like when
nobody's around. Starbucks should have every reason in the world to
want to put a stop to this: if a health inspector had witnessed it
they'd have been in for a world of trouble, not to mention terrible
publicity.


The only way it even would have made a little sense is if the employee
were clearly joking: "Are you sure you don't want the one that fell on
the floor? Ha ha, just kidding, here's another one." But that
doesn't sound like it was the case.

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by mary jo Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 11:41 AM

I was already to jump in saying how you are blowing this out of
proportion, ect. But after reading all the responses I think I got a
little different perspective.

To be honest, if someone dropped a cookie on the floor and then
offered it to me I think I would have done the same as you. Especially
if they got bent out of shape about giving a refund. It isnt that I
would be mad they dropped it but it would greatly offend me to be
offered a cookie that had been on the floor.

Its a disgrace that she did that. Even worse with the attitude.

I think experiences like this is exactly what corporate wants to hear.
And I think they very well might put everyone in the company through a
little re-training or at the very least send out a company memo
highlighting proper procedures. Maybe speaking to a manager might have
been better but in this case I dont think it really matters.

This is a good letter.

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I have to agree with you here MaryJo n/t by >Leanne< Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:06 PM

by Quasi_Mondo Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 11:01 AM

The only question I have (though directed toward no one in
particular):
If the employee dropped the cookie and she was the only one who knew
about it, would she have said anything?
It's food for thought, so to speak.

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Right by >Leanne< Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:06 PM


food for thought by Bill R Fri February 23, 2007 @ 7:12 PM


by Righteously Indignant Erik Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 9:59 AM

You turned down a floor cookie? Holy crap, those are the best kinds of
cookies. What the heck's the matter with you?

Mmm. Floor cookie.

Anyway, I have to agree with ticky. You're taking this way too far.
You got your money back, no one made you eat the floor cookie. The
matter has been settled. All this letter serves to do is make you
look vindictive.

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Vindictive? by impy Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:12 AM


You wrote to corporate by tickytack Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:23 AM


Like I said... by Righteously Indignant Erik Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:37 AM

by DragonflygrrlTheGreat Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 9:25 AM

I have to wonder, does your wife know you are writing this letter? I
mean, if my husband wrote a letter complaining about my store, I'd be
a little peeved if he didn't let me know first. And I'd be really
peeved if he proclaimed that he would never again patronize a store
where I worked. Also, what did the manager say when you told her?

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Well, technically by tickytack Fri February 23, 2007 @ 9:49 AM


Yeah, I guess that is true... by DragonflygrrlTheGreat Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:08 PM

by RedheadWGlasses Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:52 AM

If this grossed you out so much, and is still on your mind so much
that you're writing a letter to corporate headquarters, a letter
lacking in information to the degree that Starbucks won't have any
clue who or where you're talking about (and it's not like they're
going to reexamine their training procedures nationwide for one poorly
reported incident), why didn't you ask to speak with the manager?

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No manager by impy Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:10 AM


No manager. by The New and Improved Brenda Fri February 23, 2007 @ 11:27 AM


by tickytack Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:23 AM

I'm not saying by any means that you have no right to be grossed out
by being offered a cookie that was dropped on the floor. That is,
indeed, nasty (and quite audacious of the clerk to try to pass it
off).

I just think you're taking it too far.

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How far is too far? by LadyMac Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:31 AM


Too far is writing to corporate by tickytack Fri February 23, 2007 @ 9:51 AM

All? by impy Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:17 AM


Right, the follow the leader mentality by tickytack Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:31 AM


It's possible by >Leanne< Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:03 PM


Good point by tickytack Fri February 23, 2007 @ 12:57 PM


That too or by >Leanne< Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:05 PM

by tickytack Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:19 AM

I think you are overreacting BIG TIME. You didn't accept the cookie -
I don't blame you for that - and you got a refund. This was a one
time thing and you claim there is no "chance of [you] ordering
something edible from that location again."

It's the first time it happened. Probably will be the only time. You
didn't eat the cookie. You didn't have to pay for the cookie.

"With these habits" - again, it was only once. Since when is doing
something only once a "habit"?

My advice? Get over it.


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Overreaction? by impy Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:25 AM


Do you know for a fact that you were not the only person this happened to? by tickytack Fri February 23, 2007 @ 10:33 AM


I agree with tickytack to some extent... by Casmly Fri February 23, 2007 @ 11:07 AM


Yaay, Casmly! by tickytack Fri February 23, 2007 @ 11:33 AM


Ticky is much better by RedheadWGlasses Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:32 PM


I don't know, I like mustard better! by Casmly Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:58 PM


What about MY feelings on the matter? by tickytack Fri February 23, 2007 @ 2:15 PM


No, wait, I have it. by RedheadWGlasses Fri February 23, 2007 @ 5:04 PM


Someone's eating ticky? LOL n/t by >Leanne< Fri February 23, 2007 @ 7:46 PM

Re: No, Starbucks, I Dont Want the Cookie on the Floor! by Cass Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:17 AM


There was actually a study by tickytack Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:20 AM


They did a segment on mythbusters about that same thing by >Leanne< Fri February 23, 2007 @ 11:59 AM

Re: Mythbusters by Banrion Fri February 23, 2007 @ 1:19 PM

by RedheadWGlasses Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 5:49 PM

How the heck are ya? Where've you been! You've been missed. ;)

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Just the thought that the employee next to me owns a dog and didn't clean her shoes after that last walk OOPS :( by >Leanne< Fri February 23, 2007 @ 7:53 PM


by Blackrack Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:12 AM

You dare question the five-second rule!?

Okay, okay, it was disproved on Mythbusters, which makes floor cookies
officially ew. I carry around a bottle of hand sanitizer, so if
someone offered me a cookie they had dropped on the floor (the floor
of a public store, no less), I think I'd go a whiter shade of pale.

It's a health concern, and good for you for writing a literate,
non-dramatic letter without a demand for free stuff. After reading a
letter like this, I think I'll bypass Starbucks and spend a little
more money at Tim Horton's...

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by Nayda Badillo Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 8:07 AM

What about the 3 second rule?? Did she take longer than 3 secs to pick
it up..did she not blow on it..to remove the dust??

Ok.. I was being a smarty pants!!! ;)

This letter is very well written. I do so very much love the fact that
you didn't go ballistic and ask for $1 gazillion coupons for free
cookies to last you and your family until the year 5000! ;)

I do believe you did the right thing to write to corporate..as yes..
as someone said it could be handled at the local level..but, I'm sure
that a "re-education" of ALL employees, no matter what location.. will
do some good!!

Good letter.. good luck to you!!!

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by vc Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 7:53 AM


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by Casmly Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 7:44 AM

Although I agree that this letter was well written, this is an issue
that should be addressed with the location not with corporate. So
many letters are being sent to corporate lately, even though the
complaint could more adequately be addressed at a local level.

Also, the letter writer points out that he will never go back to this
particular location. I have to point out the fact that if I knew
exactly what had happened to my food at any given fast food venue, I
probably wouldn't eat at any of them.

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by Giselle Posted Fri February 23, 2007 @ 7:07 AM

This is a definitely a well-written letter with a valid complaint and
no demands for free cookies from Starbucks for the next 500 years.
The idea of someone offering someone else food off the floor is
insane. I would have said "I am so sorry! I just dropped the last type
XXXX cookie we have! Yikes. I apologize. Do you have a second
choice"?

At this point, the customer will do one of four things:

1. I'll take that cookie you dropped. I can just wipe it off.

2. Sure, I'll have a piece of lemon cake instead.

3. I want a refund.

4.. #%#$%$#%#$ I wanted that cookie!

If the customer went with #1, #2 or #3, thats a no-brainer. But if
number 4 is what he is leaning towards, this is the part where you (I
hope) are empowered to do something to make this customer happy. Like
offer a different type cookie, cake, muffin, SOMETHING and comp it. I
don't know how empowered Starbucks employees are though. I think,
personally, that companies should empower employees to do simple
things to keep a customer happy. But anyway, that is just my
opinion....I'm sure there will be posters coming along soon who will
say OH MY GOD!! Its just a COOKIE! GET OVER IT!!! Whatever. Bottom
line: employees should not offer customers food off the effin' floor
and a request for a refund on SOMETHING YOU DID NOT EVEN GET TO EAT
BECAUSE IT WAS DROPPED ON THE FLOOR should be met with a cheerful
"absolutely, I will refund your money immediately".

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by Nigel Posted Thu February 22, 2007 @ 9:34 PM

She gave you the option - which it was extremely unlikely (but not
absolutley certain) that a customer would reject - of taking the
cookie. You chose not to do so. Big deal. If she had thrown it away
without offering it to you, you probably would have complained about
that.

Try keeping things in perspective.

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HUH? by LadyMac Fri February 23, 2007 @ 7:59 AM

What's wrong Nigel by Mr. Mafia Fri February 23, 2007 @ 7:39 PM


by donno Posted Thu February 22, 2007 @ 9:23 PM

Maybe I forgot how PFB works, but will the location be known so that
the employee in question can be included in the education? I would
think that management of this particular location should know it
happened there so that they can address the situation. My hope would
be this is isolated and not something that would happen at the average
location with the average employee.

This was a very well written letter as the other comment pointed out.
No freebee request; no bad attitude. You show a genuine concern for
improving customer service.

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by PaintedLady Posted Thu February 22, 2007 @ 9:06 PM

I think this is a very good letter; to the point, no unreasonable
demands, and completely understandable. What a nice change.

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