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Sellersville, PA Store lost a steady customer

Posted Mon March 5, 2007 11:22 am, by John S. written to Home Depot, Inc.

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Yesterday I went to the local Home Depot in Sellersville, PA for the thousandth time in recent memory. I'm a new homeowner in the area and my house is old. Almost every single renovation project I've performed has involved Home Depot. I had gone in yesterday to purchase some things for my bathroom tiling project. Specifically I needed Hardi-backer board. My problem is, unlike 50% of the customers at the Depot, I don't own a pickup truck. The boards I was buying are 3 ft by 5 ft. These do not fit into my 4Runner. It's close but no, they don't fit. I had similar problems getting drywall home not 3 months ago, purchasing at the same exact store. During that visit a younger guy working in the const. supplies area was really nice - he asked if I had measurements and then he cut the pieces for me. It was a really nice thing to do. I would've done it myself on the floor of the aisle, no big deal. So by virtue of that visit, I had assumed I could either recruit help to trim the hardi-backer or do it myself. Since everyone looked busy, I figured, I'll buy a new razor blade and t-square, and I'll use them to cut the board before I get out to the car. Simple.

I told my dad to come with me to the drywall aisle where I began scoring the backerboard to roughly trim to a size that would get the boards into my SUV. I was about halfway done when I noticed a very annoyed older man and HD associate standing behind me, watching me. I asked him politely if he needed to get to something I was blocking. In the rudest possible manner he informed me I had no business cutting anything in the store and I needed to stop. I told him there was no way I could fit the boards into my vehicle. His reaction, to this very minute, makes my blood pressure skyrocket. He stood there, and like a 5 yr old, SHRUGGED HIS SHOULDERS. That's it. He didn't explain himself. He didn't explain any policy. He just shrugged his shoulders. I told him that a sales associate actually cut my drywall for me a couple months ago. And would you believe, this guy shrugged his shoulders again. No comments. He muttered something about insurance policy. I'm not an unreasonable guy. I understand that kind of thing. If such a policy exists, I'll adhere if you're at least somewhat nice. So I asked him "would you cut the board for me?" to which he replied "No." Again, no explanation, ZERO customer service manners. Just a complete jerk. A little background - I use Quicken. I spent probably $10,000 at Home Depot last year and I haven't even gotten to remodeling the kitchen or outside of the house yet. I can guarantee you, I'll never spend another dollar again at the Depot.

If you are selling things that cannot be cut onsite, and you're only way to get these items to your house is to rent a Depot truck to do it, POST A SIGN on the shelf where these goods, that you supposedly can't cut in the store, are stored. And get rid of these scroogey old men who need to be put out of their misery. My own father who is 60 said to me "If I every get crotchey and miserable like that, John, shoot me."

Even as I was checking out, the cash register girl, who overheard me talking to my dad about "Mr. Personality" chimed in saying "Yeah he's Mr. Personality alright." After I checked out, I went to the main service desk to let them know how I felt. Describing my run-in with the old man in the drywall aisle, even they knew exactly who I was talking about. So it's no secret and it's no isolated incident.


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by Prefect Zachary Posted Tue March 13, 2007 @ 1:24 PM

Well, you are a steedy customer, Home Depot even went out of their way
to help you at one point but you get one bad experience and could not
accept no for an answer why do you (like a five year old) decide that
after one bad experience that home depot is bad and don't and decide
to learn. Also if they knew which old man they were talking about it
is perhaps because you described him in detail or because he was the
only old person working that day.

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Also by Prefect Zachary Tue March 13, 2007 @ 1:26 PM

by Punk Erik Posted Wed March 7, 2007 @ 11:55 AM

You seem awfully familiar. Just can't remember why.

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by donno Posted Tue March 6, 2007 @ 10:40 PM

I am a regular Home Depot shopper, and I have cut stuff up on several
occasions without paying. That is how it works. They don't come
running down the aisles and accuse you of stealing, theft or whatever.
You take your frigging barcode up with the pieces and they scan it.
They DO NOT look at you like "What the heck are you doing?"

They PROMOTE people cutting their own stuff by supplying cutting
stations for certain things, complete with saws. They DO NOT provide
signs that say "You have to pay first." They DO NOT provide signs
that say "Watch you children's hands" or "Cut at your own risk". Thus
they must assume a certain level of maturity and supervision on the
part of their family customers. Thank the Lord the entire country
hasn't gone liability nuts.

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Actually by freeby4me Wed March 7, 2007 @ 11:37 AM


There are many ways you could hurt yourself at HD - it isn't JC Penny by donno Wed March 7, 2007 @ 3:25 PM

I do agree! by freeby4me Wed March 7, 2007 @ 7:21 PM


by Cee Dub Posted Tue March 6, 2007 @ 1:41 PM

I agree the associate was a jerk. It sounds like you just wanted to
be told about their policy in a more polite tone rather than being
talked to like a child, which sounds like the associate in question
did. I would have been pissed off too.

I wouldn't, though, boycott Home Depot, though. Not for one bad
employee. I would have told the manager somehow (then and there or I
would have called the store later). I also would have just found
another associate and asked if I could get some assistance.

I'm sorry that guy was rude to you. You weren't aware of the policy
and he didn't do a good job of making you aware. Just don't leave an
entire company because of one miserable miser.

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by CandyPickletoes Posted Tue March 6, 2007 @ 11:38 AM

I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something...where in this letter does the
OP call himself a "loyal customer"? I can see "steady customer" but I
don't see "loyal customer". There is a discussion at the bottom of
this thread regarding the OP calling himself "loyal" but leaving with
one incident. I just can't see where he called himself loyal to HD.
Maybe I'm missing something. But, if not, there is a world of
difference between steady and loyal.

JMHO

Oh, and hi again all! :o)

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where in this letter does the OP call himself a "loyal customer"? by Bill R Tue March 6, 2007 @ 11:49 AM


It's in one of his responses below (n/t) by tickytack Tue March 6, 2007 @ 12:03 PM


Adorable pic for your avatar!!! n/t by RedheadWGlasses Tue March 6, 2007 @ 1:24 PM


Thanks! by CandyPickletoes Thu March 8, 2007 @ 3:03 PM


Re: Sellersville, PA Store lost a steady customer by PaintedLady Tue March 6, 2007 @ 11:11 AM


Sorry! by PaintedLady Tue March 6, 2007 @ 11:13 AM


just don't paint all of us with the same brush. by Bill R Tue March 6, 2007 @ 11:16 AM
by JHatfield Posted Tue March 6, 2007 @ 12:17 PM

It's nice to just hear a "we hear you man, we're sorry." I don't even
expect it from anyone who has no idea where this store is. But it's
still appreciated. I'm taking to ignoring the many people who took
the time to write about how they've got me all figured out,
personality-wise, loyalty-wise, et al. I'm comfortable with who I am.
I know I'm a fair person who expects nothing more than fair,
reasonable treatment in return. When I'm treated like a subhuman for
overstepping my bounds, I take it personally, and I'll vent that in
any forum that it's appropriate. I think it's important to remind
companies that a huge part of the consumer experience is the service
end. If you don't want to get blown away by online competition and
overseas manufacturing, one sure-footed way of endearing yourself to
customers is to treat them well. I could have accepted any decent
reason for being told to stop. I cannot tolerate being told to stop
with the facial expression and attitiude that was given to me. For
those of you so quick to shoot me down, who were incidentally never
there to see what I dealt firsthand, you have nothing substantive to
back up your poorly masked suspicion of my character quality. And to
tbe nitpickers, LOYALTY means beuing steadfast, even in the face of
adversity. Don't think this is the first time I've walked out of HD
less than satisfied. My loyalty withstood all those times. It's when
I walk out having been directly insulted that the line has been
crossed.

To those of you at least a little more neutral, your points are heard.
You are correct in pointing out that the are several other people in
that store who have been great to work with and I should not put them
down or even imply that they are inept. They are not. If my original
post conveyed that an entire store has let me down, that's inaccurate.
I look more towards the management for putting people who lack the
social skill to be respectful to customers on their sales floor.


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by Lia Posted Tue March 6, 2007 @ 10:04 AM

I'm surprised that they didn't toss you out for theft.

Yes, you read right: theft.

See, you attempted to alter a product before you had purchased it.

"But!" you cry, "the employee did it before for me!" That may be the
case, but the employee did it and knew you were going to pay for it.
How did this other employee know you were? You certainly didn't
indicate as such. As far as he knew, you were going to pull a fast one
on the store and claim damaged goods to try and get a discount on the
product. It does happen.

And the whole issue of insurance? What if a child had run by and cut
themselves on your razor blade? Or what if you had cut yourself while
cutting? Sure you can say that you'd be careful, but are you 100%
positive you wouldn't hurt yourself or others?

The fact is, if you'd really wanted to cut the drywall, you could have
waited until *after* you had purchased it and done it in the parking
lot. Would it have been so bad to wait until then.

I'm sure that Home Depot will not miss you in the least.

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That's why. . . by MA Loper Tue March 6, 2007 @ 10:38 AM

sneaking suspicion by JHatfield Tue March 6, 2007 @ 12:18 PM


How ironic by MA Loper Tue March 6, 2007 @ 3:55 PM

Agreed! by freeby4me Tue March 6, 2007 @ 1:48 PM
by JHatfield Posted Tue March 6, 2007 @ 9:03 AM

To all the critics and know-it-alls:

First off, I welcome balanced feedback from anyone. Will I admit that
emotion is an overriding factor in my letter? Absolutely. Do I
believe I still have a fair grip? Absolutely.

To those of you who can't stop talking about insurance, let me say
right now, right here, that I'm well aware of insurance and the
implications on handling "dangerous" tools/materials. Believe me.
Well aware. However, I'm not sure how much time some of you have
actually spent in Home Depot (or like stores) sourcing items for real
home DIY projects. I'm not talking about putting yard lamps in your
garden or installing a ceiling fan. I'm talking about purchasing of
building supplies for ground-up projects. I've been a patron of DIY
stores for YEARS. I'm well aware of the fact that Home Depot has
allowed it's customers to use saws in it's stores. There is a cutting
station and sharp hand saws all over the wood moulding aisle. And
they encourage you to cut what you need.

The simple fact is, the deterioration of the overall customer service
menatlity in stores all over the world is the overriding factor in
this experience. Some of you are so quick to judge me - "DID IT EVER
OCCUR TO YOU..." "DID YOU EVEN PURCHASE THE GOODS BEFORE YOU STARTED
CUTTING?" - you dare point at my apparent oversights when some of
yours are glaring all over this thread. I know what I'm doing! I've
been pretty much barraged by these crusader housewives who apparently
surf this board all day looking for people's letters to bash. Let the
company's stand up for themselves! And let the CEO's decide whether
to respond or not. I didn't ask them for compensation. I don't want
a gift certificate. I don't want an apology. What I do want, is for
people in stores to start saying "Please" and "Thank you" and "Sorry",
just as I do to people who I correspond every day with. Any given
day, all of us are wrong at some point. Being in the wrong is not
ground to be treated like a jerk. Plain and simple. End of story.
If you want to continue commenting on how I was wrong, you're missing
the bloody point completely. But have fun, housewife crusaders. Will
I probably go back to HD some day? Probably, because I won't have a
choice. Did I and do I have a right to flame them for employing an
ogre in their store? You better believe I do. Free speech folks.

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I see your point by Happily Unemployed LadyMac Tue March 6, 2007 @ 10:04 AM


Yep :) by Peanut's Mom Wed March 7, 2007 @ 12:14 AM

by tater30 Posted Mon March 5, 2007 @ 11:24 PM

*sigh* I can't believe I'm saying this...

Um.. I work for Lowes..
.. but John, honestly, don't let the actions of one bad employee turn
you away from a company that you were previously happy with. Go back
to the store, talk to the manager, I'm sure this guy has a file 2
inches thick and is on his way out the door.

I've never stepped foot in a Home Depot but the very idea that they
let customers cut thier own stuff send shudders up my spine.
*imagining severed fingers rolling around on the floor*


They must have hella good insurance *lol*




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How nice... by Venice Tue March 6, 2007 @ 2:28 AM


*waves at Tater30* by PaintedLady Tue March 6, 2007 @ 2:13 PM


*waves back* .. by tater30 Tue March 6, 2007 @ 10:38 PM


by donno Posted Mon March 5, 2007 @ 10:48 PM

In my experience at Home Depot, you can generally cut things like
drywall and wood yourself (as you say they provide handsaws and a
self-serve cutting area). You do NOT have to buy it first as some
people here suggested. You take the pieces up including the one with
the barcode. I have done this many times. I do not believe this is
an insurance issue, or they would not provide a pile of saws like I
find in the moulding department of my HD.

I am guessing one of two things. First, handibacker is messier than
drywall if you cut both correctly, in my opinion. Drywall makes a
small amount of dust, hardibacker makes cement pieces that are larger
than dust.

I think more likely is that this particular employee was wrong in
saying you could not cut it in the store.

The rest of your letter is a bit over the top. So one employee was a
jerk. I have run into a few jerks at HD over the years. I still shop
at all the stores; I just steer away from those individuals. They
deal with a lot of troublesome customers too, so I have some sympathy
for them. There are some crotchedy old men who work at home centers -
it is one way then can fully staff their ranks.

If I were buying something a bit messier to cut, I would take it
outside on a cart and cut it there.




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by eydieville Posted Mon March 5, 2007 @ 7:16 PM

you have to take into consideration-if you cut yourself or injure
yourself, Home Depot is liable. They can't open themselves up to
lawsuits like that. Also, the guy who cut the first board for
you--you said he was young. He probably hasn't been on the job long
and he doesn't have the experience of the older guy. He probably
wasn't supposed to cut the board, he just did it because he's young
and young people still have that "let me do everything for you" that
older people lost a long time ago because they are TIRED. Shrugging
isn't rude. He's just letting you know there's nothing he can do
about policy. Now, if he'd called you a name, that's another story.
The "cash register girl" (God, i love that!) is probably young too.
Lots of young people think lots of older people are mean, no fun,
etc., when in fact, they simply know the reasons for what has to be
done, like it or not. Are you seriously suggesting that people older
than 60 not be allowed to work?! Darling, i HAVE to work till age 70
just to be eligible for Social Security benefits. You need to learn
some respect for the fact that these people are working because they
have to, not for the treat of seeing your pretty face. It's not Home
Depot's fault you don't have a vehicle big enough for your purchases.
If you purchase something bigger than your car, you need a plan for
how to get it home. That's not anyone's problem but yours.

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by Bill R Posted Mon March 5, 2007 @ 6:04 PM

John S.,
Like the others said there are insurance issues involved in this with
considerable exposure to HD and cutsomers alike.
Infact if you remmember when HD first came on the scene they were
innundated with injury claims due to the their haste in working around
customers as well as due to their methodology in storage. These days
they have worked hard to make HD a safer enviroment for associate and
customers alike.
That being said, they are gun shy and have to draw the line someplace
and thus the Rules.
If it were me I'd try the store one more time and ask to meet with the
Store Manager to share your input on the staff issue.
I would not write the entire company off based on this one exchange
though from articles I have read many customer have voted with thier
feet and now shop
Lowes and local hardware stores.
Good luck and drop back here and tell us how that conversation goes.
Bill R

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by S. Brown Posted Mon March 5, 2007 @ 5:22 PM

Perhaps the older gentleman who told you not to score the backerboard
in the isle wasn't as professional and friendly as he could have been,
but that's a separate issue from your actions.

Let's back up - - when you purchased drywall, a Home Depot employee
cut it for you and by virtue of his kind actions, you assumed that
other employees would do the same or you could simply hunker down in
the isle and do it yourself - - before paying, I might add.

Did it ever occur to you that there most likely are insurance issues
to consider? What if you had cut yourself while scoring backerboard
with tools simply pulled off the shelf? If Home Depot doesn't want
you using their ladder lifts to get items off high shelves, what makes
you think that it's OK to score backerboard in the middle of the isle
- - without permission - - only your assumption that it's OK?

Stopping by the "main desk to let them know how I felt" isn't good
enough if you are going to write this type of letter to corporate.
And what I find interesting is that you only described your encounter
with Mr. Personality and it does sound like you asked for
clarification on whether or not it's OK to cut product in the isles
with Home Depot tools before paying for it.

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by Harleycat Posted Mon March 5, 2007 @ 4:53 PM

I'm torn between thinking you have a valid complaint and thinking that
you took the action of one employee just a little too far. If this
same thing had happened to me, I would have asked that employee to get
the store manager for me and asked him/her to explain the policy.

By the way, I do understand the policy. I can see several thing
happening if they allow this, one is the person cutting it getting
hurt and another that people who make a mistake cutting it simply
taking another piece and not paying for their mistake. I'm not saying
you would do that but there are people who would.


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by Happily Unemployed LadyMac Posted Mon March 5, 2007 @ 4:21 PM

John - I just bought a new house (well, new to me any ways) and it
needs some changes. I don't have the background you do, so it's been
a steep learning curve. When I find a store that offers me good
prices, good quality and (generally) fine service, I tend to stick
with them. Home Depot does that for me. It would be a shame to write
off an entire chain for the actions of one employee. Think about it -
would you or your employer respond positively if someone said that to
you? I am unclear on your complaint as to whether you spoke to a
member of management. That would probably have been the best way to
ensure your complaint was heard.

I agree you have a valid complaint, but you lost me with the scroogey
old men comment. I hate to say this, but I think it cheapens your
complaint. Not that you don't have a right to be angry - you just
shouldn't write complaint letters when you are angry. Besides, what's
going to happen if the recipient of your complaint is one of those
"scroogey" old men and he reads that you just suggested he should be
put out of his misery? Where is your complaint going? Probably in
the trash.

Good luck, John. As I said, I think your complaint is valid, but you
should rewrite it when you're less angry. Or perhaps you should just
call the store and speak to the manager.


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duly noted. by JHatfield Tue March 6, 2007 @ 12:20 PM


by tickytack Posted Mon March 5, 2007 @ 11:57 AM

He did explain a policy. You are not allowed to cut things in the
store. That's the policy. You, therefore, were in the wrong.
Further, had you already PAID for the material you were cutting before
you actually cut it?

The fact that an employee at one time went above and beyond for you
does not mean they all have to. I think you're in the wrong here and
that you shouldn't have just assumed you could cut tile in the middle
of the store.

Further, it is ludicrous for one negative experience to cause you not
to shop somewhere that has previously been giving you good
assistance.

"And get rid of these scroogey old men who need to be put out of their
misery. My own father who is 60 said to me "If I every get crotchey
and miserable like that, John, shoot me"

That line is 100% wrong and has no business being in a letter.

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Re:Comment by John Schaeffer Mon March 5, 2007 @ 12:04 PM


"Loyal Customer" by tickytack Mon March 5, 2007 @ 12:37 PM

Tone? by John Schaeffer Mon March 5, 2007 @ 12:54 PM


From your posts by tickytack Mon March 5, 2007 @ 3:44 PM

One other thing... by John Schaeffer Mon March 5, 2007 @ 1:40 PM


I am far from being the only one on this site by tickytack Mon March 5, 2007 @ 3:48 PM


"Loyal Customer" definition by RedheadWGlasses Mon March 5, 2007 @ 7:15 PM


Excellent point, Red! (n/t) by tickytack Tue March 6, 2007 @ 8:32 AM

price was never a factor by JHatfield Tue March 6, 2007 @ 8:41 AM


Nice edjumukation you got yourself there by RedheadWGlasses Tue March 6, 2007 @ 12:38 PM




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