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Did You Just Say You Won't Take My Money??!??!???!!!??
Posted Thu March 15, 2007 11:14 pm, by Christian J. W. written to GapKids
Write a Letter to this Company
I live in Colorado, but I will be visiting Southern California this weekend. I'm sure you can appreciate the drastic climate differences between these two states. Unfortunately, none of your stores in Colorado are carrying Summer items yet, and I need to purchase new clothes for my two sons which will be suited to the warmer temperatures of California.
Not thinking it would be a problem, I waited until shortly before I will be departing and then called one of your stores in Southern California. I want to point out I received execellent service when I called; this is not the reason for my complaint.
Although I offered to pay for the items I want to purchase with my credit card so that they can be held until my arrival (three days from the date of this letter), I was told that 1) Your store policy prevents anything from being held more than 24 hours, and 2) Your store policy prevents items being paid for over the telephone and then held.
I find these policies utterly ridiculous (though I'm certain GAP feels it has sufficient reasoning for instituting them). I simply do not understand how a paid for item cannot be held for as long as I, your customer, instruct you to hold it for (within reason, of course) -- after all, I've just PAID YOU for these items, so there shouldn't be any reason whatsoever on your part to worry about not recovering funds for the purchase.
I have been a customer of yours for several years, and I must say as long as I shop within my town of residence I enjoy wonderful service from your stores and have been very satisfied with your products. However, the moment I try and coordinate something from another state due to my traveling plans, I am told GapKids has no use for my money.
Consequently, I want you to know I will not be making the significant purchase I had planned to make (totaling in more than $500.00), but will instead have to spend the day before I depart scouring competitors and department stores to find items suitable for me to wear during my travels.
Please consider revising your inconvenient and seemingly pointless policies - after all, in this case, it has done nothing but cause me, your loyal customer, trouble and cost you my valuable business.
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I seriously doubt that your $500 will make or break the Gap stores.
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by Rhet Canter Posted Thu March 22, 2007 @ 7:21 PM
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Usually most national chains have the same inventory in the stores around the country, perhaps just a little more of this and a little less of that depending on the geographical location. With that said, I doubt that you could purchase summer clothes in jeez, winter in So. California versus Colorado. Were you moving there permanently? Can't your children wear what they wore last summer or have they grown out of those? Your letter is really way off base and shows quite a bit of ignorance on your part. Although the Gap is experiencing lagging sales, I seriously doubt your $500.00 in purchases will be the thing that takes them to their knees.
What a terrible letter.
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by BigRed Posted Tue March 20, 2007 @ 9:12 AM
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It's a store not a warehouse that's why they won't hold it.
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by Marty5223 Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 9:33 AM
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As a former retail manager holding merchandise paid or unpaid for is a pain. You might misplace the items! You have a huge staff that might not be able to alert to this arrangement making pickup difficult! You don't have any set procedures for holding paid for itmes. It is just a problem. Then you hold items that could have sold that were not paid for and the person never comes to pick them up!
On the other hand some stores do allow you to shop on line and pick up at the store. That method is secure and not as subject to credit card fruad or charge backs.
Taking credit cards on the phone is risky!
I worked for a large retail store and we eventually stopped holding period because of so many problems.
If I travel and have packed the wrong clothes I just go shopping. Most stores are happy to have you shop in person..but don't really have time to be your personal shopper over the telephone1
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by Jugi Posted Sun March 18, 2007 @ 10:16 PM
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Did you offer to pay them a storage fee for holding on to your clothing for you?
I am confused as to why you could not just buy these items once you arrived. Or shop online beforehand.
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by TwinkleToes Posted Sun March 18, 2007 @ 9:00 PM
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Yep. That's what they said....
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by penelope Posted Sun March 18, 2007 @ 1:52 PM
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i don't understand what the big deal is. they do not take credit cards over the phone. ever heard of credit card fraud. there for you cannot pay for the items and there for they cannot be placed on hold for more than 24 hours. the hold policy has exsisted ever since i have been a gap customer. other than that why are you complaining so much. there is gap.com. you can order the items and have them sent to wherever you will be staying.
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by donno Posted Sun March 18, 2007 @ 3:21 AM
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This is a seemingly pointless letter. Seasonal merchadise aside, I have never heard of paying for an item over the phone and the store holding it around for the buyer to pick it up. Who would want to take on this risk? The buyer waltzes in a week or Lord knows how long after calling and says "Where's my item, I paid for it!" The poor merchant rumages around on the shelves, hoping to find the package that someone hopefully labelled "VIP". Or, more likely, the store employee blankly looks at the self-professed buyer and says "WHAT?"
Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency for GapKids or anyone else. Jump in the Lexus, Suburban or ML500 and spend $3.25 a gallon to drive to Beverly Hills. I am sure they can meet your needs there, and the weather will surely be divine.
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by Retail G Posted Sat March 17, 2007 @ 2:24 PM
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Many companies will not take a CC over the phone for payment. With ID theft and CC Fraud, it is not worth the risk to the company if the sale gets charged back. As far as holding items, even if they are paid for, there has to be a limit. If you never came to pick up the items, the store would still be obligated to hold them and try to contact you. Say this goes on for a few months. Now they have been storing your property, taking up space in their store and not knowing if you are coming in. Or suppose you change your mind after a few weeks and want a refund. Now they are stuck with a return, possibly items that could have reduced in price which they would have to sell cheaper.
It's just not worth it.
If you want to pay with a CC, shop on line and have it shipped.
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by mary jo Posted Sat March 17, 2007 @ 9:59 AM
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"but will instead have to spend the day before I depart scouring competitors and department stores to find items suitable for me to wear during my travels."
You shop for yourself at GapKids? You must be one tiny little person!
That being said, let me just assure you (as a native Floridian who lived in SoCal for a couple of years) it is NOT as warm as you might think it is in SoCal this time of year. Actually, its not as warm as you would think ANY time of the year. If you want REALLY warm weather try Florida. We have had the air conditioner running all week but thanks to a little rain yesterday its dropped back down into the low 70's today. If you plan on wearing shorts and t-shirts in SoCal this time of year you might want to grab a pair of long johns to go under it. The last SUMMER I spent in SoCal I had the heater on every single night!!!
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by blondie615 Posted Sat March 17, 2007 @ 3:03 AM
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you cant expect them to cater to you all frickin year, just like its always 1 o'clock, its always warm somewhere...........
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by Gino Posted Sat March 17, 2007 @ 12:07 AM
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They want your money, believe me, they REALLY do.
I've never had a problem with Gap or any of their return policies. Even their return policy is fair...you get the lowest price the item sold for in the last 90 days, unless, of course, you have the receipt. I'd never THINK of asking them to hold something I paid for.
One thing that most stores do, and it makes sense if you think about it, is change their merchandise to reflect the climate in each stores particular location So "not thinking it would be a problem" and waiting till the last minute with your five bills is NOT Gap's fault. Are they supposed to stock their store based on one person's travel itinerary? I doubt it. What makes more sense, stocking winter items in the summer and waiting for ONE 500 dollar sale, or stocking the store for the summer and competing with other stores on an equal footing?
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by Sarah H Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 10:15 PM
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Are you crazy? I have never heard of a retail store that will let you pay for an in store purchase over the phone. Also, I've never heard of a retail store that will hold items for more than 24 hrs. Your demands are outrageous. Gap is my favorite clothing store and I have shopped there for years and always had excellent customer service. Their prices are a little high, but the quality of their clothing is excellent and well worth it. Don't understand why you have a problem with this company.
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by nick l Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 9:54 PM
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One more thing (this gave me a giggle!)
First you say "I need to purchase new clothes for my two sons which will be suited to the warmer temperatures of California."
Later on you say "Consequently, I want you to know I will not be making the significant purchase I had planned to make (totaling in more than $500.00), but will instead have to spend the day before I depart scouring competitors and department stores to find items suitable for ME to wear during my travels."
Next time you decide to spam 3 different retailers with the same complaint, remember: Continuity is your friend.
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by PFBSUCKS Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 7:22 PM
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At the store i work at (not any of the stores you mentioned).. we do NOT hold items for more than 24 hours because the jerks never come pick it up 95% of the time! and its funny you mention the paying with your credit card over the phone to a certain STORE. A customer called me and asked if she could do that... you know what.. for all my coworkers and i know.. she COULD do that.. then come in and completely deny the charges and cause a big deal. WHY would you call a certain store and pay for something and have it on hold when you could just order it on the website? i mean.. come ON....
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1. Stores most CERTAINLY are carrying summer/warm-weather clothing items right now. I'm in Minnesota, and bikinis have been out for over a month now. Winter stuff has been on clearance for two months. *I'm* in Minnesota and we hit -40 degrees here this winter, so if we have summer clothing, Colorado certainly does.
2. While it CAN be warm in southern California right now, it also can be chilly, especially at night. You likely won't need shorts and tank tops as much as you expect.
3. Why not call in your order 24 hours before you get there, thereby fitting the story policy? What's so wrong about making a phone call a couple of days later than today?
4. You were going to spend $500 for one weekend's worth of clothes for kids? Um, okay.
5. Were you attempting to order children's clothes or adult clothes? Oh, looks like you didn't fully change the letter when you copied the one you sent to the other stores. That explains your reference to having to go shopping for yourself as a result of their store policy.
6. Because of one store policy with which you don't agree, over something that likely doesn't come up often (buying clothes in advance of travel and having them be held for you at your destination), you're willing to quit shopping at a place you've described as giving you great service and clothes you like? The saying "cutting off one's nose to spite one's face" comes to mind.
7. Just get to the damn mall already.
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by nick l Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 5:47 PM
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I find your demand--oops, I mean "request"--utterly ridiculous.
Where, exactly, is Gap, GapKids, and Banana Republic (after all, you did send the exact same letter to all 3 stores, I'll look for a similar letter from you addressed to Old Navy) supposed to store all this stuff that you ordered over the phone and promised to pick up in a few days? And what are they supposed to do if you don't show up when you say you will? Return the items to the shelves? Can't do that--that'll just get them another angry letter because they caused you, their "loyal customer", nothing but trouble.
If you need clothes so quickly, use the retailer's website and pony up the extra money for expedited shipping. Many retailers offer you an overnight shipping option.
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by JuliePie Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 5:46 PM
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www.gap.com
They take your credit card, and they would have shipped the clothes to you so you'd have them with you when you arrived in your warmer destination.
This is the most rediculous complaint.
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by calm Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 4:15 PM
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What you're asking them to do would require them to put in place a whole new set of policies, set up a separate area where sold clothes can wait for their purchasers, risk accepting a fraudulent credit card without any signature, and so on. That's more than $500 worth of trouble -- and it's definitely more trouble than the markup is worth.
Gap is selling kids' summer clothes online right now, and they do not require you to travel to them in order to sign a charge slip. You could have ordered from there last weekend and then -- since one of your goals here appears to be not to have to haul as much stuff to California as you are going to need once you get there (and I'm definitely with you on that) -- asked that they be delivered to your hotel with an instruction to hold it for your arrival.
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by MrsMootz Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 4:14 PM
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I don't understand - why not shop online at www.gap.com and pay for expedited shipping, if this is an issue? That way, you could get the clothes you want without the hassles and it would ship to your door prior to leaving for the trip.
Am I missing something?
I live in Southern CO and I have had no trouble finding warm weather clothing - in fact, all the stores in my area have winter stuff on clearance right now.
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by Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 3:56 PM
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why write the same word-for-word letter to Gap, Gapkids and Banana Republic???
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While I'm sure there are exceptions to every rule, retail stores in general have virtually no "extra" space most of the time. Some stores have a stockroom, basically a large closet stuffed with boxes of extra merchandise, and sometimes a small staff area. Storage space "in the back" is virtually nil... that's why stores have clearance sales to get rid of seasonal stuff, because there's really no place else to put it. Similarly, there's no place to put merchandise held for customers, either.
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by MA Loper Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 3:22 PM
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Christian,
While I can appreciate your situation and frustration, apparently your needs supercede your ability to comprehend that your take on how things ought to be is not necessarily the way things end up.
Others have mentioned that holding items presents a problem for the store. First there is the space issue - where exactly should they put all this unpaid for merchandise so it's not in the way of items that are actually for sale?
Second, If for whatever reason you change your mind (maybe you found nicer clothes for less at Gymboree or Childrens Place) and never claimed the clothing, then how many people did they lose out on selling those items to over the course of 3 days?
Finally, the credit card over the phone thing might seem all well and good for you, but credit card fraud is RAMPANT these days. With no way to verify that you are indeed who you say you are and the holder of the card, they are opening themselves up to a loss.
You may not know it, but if you turned out to be a fraudster and purchased these items and the real cardholder disputed the charge, the store would be quite literally be left holding the bag for the merchandise because they failed to verify the identity of the person making the purchase.
While you might be above reproach, the rest of the world isn't necessarily as good.
I for one, now feel BETTER about shopping with Gap because at least I know their associates are trained enough to not just accept any credit card without being able to authenticate my identity.
But to come here and throw a hissy fit and claim that Gap doesn't want your money (which nowhere did you show this happening) and toss around how BIG your purchase would have been is not only short-sighted, it's downright juvenile!
I've seid it before and I'll say it again - every OP should take a DEEEP breath and get themselves under control before firing off a nastygram to a company - it doesn't help you in the least with the company and, as in this case, is apt to make you look foolish when your rationale is disputed.
Can I suggest next time that you order the exact same merchandise online at www.gapkids.com and have it shipped to your destination? You'll save yourself a lot of time and aggravation.
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by Courtney C. Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 2:50 PM
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If they held clothes for everyone who asked them to, their stockrooms would be overflowing with stuff waiting for a "pick up". Sure, you may say "how many people actually ask them to hold things?" but the fact is, you don't know, there could be 10 people who can't get to the store that day. A store is there to sell clothes, not provide storage space.
I have a hard time believing that 3 days from now, there will not be a single store in southern California selling warm weather clothing. If you don't need it now, why even purchase it now? Just buy it when you get there. Why would you even be so trusting? I certainly wouldn't hand over $500 on a promise that the clothes will be there. Imagine if you showed up and they said "you picked it up 2 hours ago." There are many unscrupulous people out there.
I really don't understand why you need to spend the next 3 days scouring stores in Colorado if you don't need the clothes until you get to CA. You had time to pick them up from the cashier. How long can it take to pick up the same items from their respective locations in the store and THEN be checked out by a cashier? Then you and the store both agree that you got your purchase when you spent your money.
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by PaintedLady Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 1:40 PM
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I'm quite confused over your inability to shop for warmer-wear clothing in Colorado. I returned last night from Colorado (traveling from a warmer area) and had quite the opposite problem; there were plenty of spring/summer options, but all the warmer clothing was clearanced out and quite "picked over."
Also, did you consider that the stores may not have had adequate safe storage for your items and were afraid of them being returned to display and therefore not available when you came to pick them up?
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by Jeffrey Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 8:59 AM
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How interesting that Christian wrote the same letter to Banana Republic, Gap, and Gap Kids. While they may have the same policies (same parent company, right?), I cannot understand why, after being told "no" in one store, he went to two other stores.
Writing the same letter three times? C'mon.
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He/She
by Jeffrey Fri March 16, 2007 @ 2:42 PM
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LOL
by tickytack Fri March 16, 2007 @ 3:17 PM
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by tickytack Posted Fri March 16, 2007 @ 8:49 AM
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Those policies certainly don't seem pointless to me. This is just another case of (insert foot stamp and pout here) "I didn't get my way! I didn't get my way! You are wrong! You should cater to me because I am a loyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaalllllllll customer!"
Give me a break.
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