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really bad service

Posted Sat March 17, 2007 12:00 pm, by Andrea M. written to Hardee's

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I went to your store on Cedar Road tonite for dinner. Ordered a Thickburger combo. For some reason, there was a problem with the fries, so after approx 10 minutes of waiting at the window, I was asked to pull ahead and they would bring my food out to me. No problem. However, after 15 more minutes, I began honking my horn to get someone's attention. About 5 minutes after that, ***** brought out my food. I asked him to wait a moment while I checked the order, since I knew that the thickburger had been sitting around at least 25 minutes at this point. Sure enough, it was cold. I asked ***** to bring me a new one and he suggested I come in to the store. I replied that I was not going to get out of my car in the pouring rain with 3 kids in the back. He replied, "Well, I'm out here in it!" I then told him that I would pull into a parking space and wait there. He went in (taking bag and receipt with him) to fix my order. I waited at least another 15 minutes, contemplating whether or not to go back through the drive-thru, when ***** returned with my order. This time I did not ask him to wait, as it was raining cats and dogs. I checked my food, and of course, they had given me a regular cheeseburger with nothing on it. So, I pulled my truck back up to the side of the store, and decided to go in. Once inside, ***** met me at the counter and was apologetic for the mix-up. I asked him to get the manager, which he did. She (nametag covered) came out and he explained the situation to her, at which point she began fiddling with the cash register. Not once did she acknowledge any of the above problems or attempt to apologise, or even tell me what she was doing. She just stuck her hand out with a five and change. I just stood there, then I said in a testy manner, "I don't want my money back, I just want some hot food!" She finally looked up at me at said with a surprised look on her face, "Well, you don't have to yell!" I was so shocked at her response, because I was not yelling, just speaking loudly and sounding very annoyed, justifiably.
I then replied something like,"Oh this is not yelling, you will know when I start yelling!" The other employees just started sneaking off at this point, and I don't blame them. The next thing she said was mumbled, so I cannot quote her accurately, but it was something along the lines of, "It's cause I'm black...", but I got the idea. I responded with something like,"I cannot beleive this! This has nothing to do with you or if you are black, I just want my dinner! I have been sitting outside in my car for 45 minutes waiting for a thickburger! I can't beleive this!" Needless to say I was flabbergasted. I have never been so offended in my life! I had noticed a sign, first in the drive-thru window, then again as all this was transpiring, with a name and a phone # to call for comments. I then asked her if she was the manager. She said yes. I asked her if she was "*****", the name on the sign. She said no. So I said, "I will be calling this **** person and telling her all of this." She just turned her back and walked away saying over and over again, "I don't care", at least 3 times. She then proceeded to the back and went over and began assembling my thickburger. I just stood there dumbfounded, and started crying. When she was done, she threw it into the slot and yelled very snottily "thickburger up!". ***** then bagged it up and handed it to me, saying very nicely, "I'm so sorry." I don't know what to say. I was so upset after leaving the store I couldn't even drive my car. I couldn't even eat, after all of that, either. I just called my husband and told him what had just happened. I had the phone # for the comment line dialed into my cell phone, but I was so upset I wanted to calm down first. It has taken me almost 3 hours to get over the anger, and I still can't beleive your employee, a manager no less, basically called me a racist, over a stupid hamburger. I expect to hear from someone very soon about this. I will call the number in the morning since it is so late now, but I figured it was more important that someone at the home office hear about it right away. The name and # on the sign was I did not get the name of this manager, but you can figure that out, I'm sure. I love Hardees, and I go there virtually every day. I am addicted to Thickburgers! And my family loves the chicken, too. My daughters' school even contracts with you all for their hot lunch program, and they love it. I would hate to have people hear that this was not taken care of immediately. Thank you for your time.

At the least, this person should be fired. I want a face to face, personal apology from this manager. I am considering legal action if I am not satisfied with the actions you take, especially in light of the racial comment.


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by Sick Erik Posted Tue March 27, 2007 @ 11:27 AM

I'm not yelling! I'm just speaking loudly and sounding very annoyed!

I'm not punching your cashier in the face! I'm just voicing my
displeasure by making repeated contact between her face and my
balled-up hand!

I'm not being arrested! I'm just going away for a three to five year
vacation!

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by Alex Taylor Posted Mon March 26, 2007 @ 3:55 AM

All I have to say is that I loved when you said, "I'm not yelling, I'm
speaking loudly!" LOL!

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by shahidah muta Posted Sun March 25, 2007 @ 10:45 PM

Hey! You want this service person fired and requesting an apology too?
Are you serious? Why would you want an apology? Isnt being fired
enough for you? I hate to say this, I believe you are leaving out too
many details. Waiting 45 minutes for food? Unbelievable !! Leave
those people along at that food place. Sounds like you are looking
for trouble. And did your children see this nasty behavior of yours?
I dont think you were ascting as a good role model.

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her children by Prefect Zachary Sun March 25, 2007 @ 11:43 PM


And probably by Aimeyir Tue March 27, 2007 @ 4:42 PM


by Sarah H Posted Sun March 25, 2007 @ 12:11 PM

This letter is bs because if she really had 3 kids in the car she
wouldn't be the only one getting food.

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by Prefect Zachary Posted Sat March 24, 2007 @ 7:30 PM

If you really want a face to face apology from this manager you owe
her one yourself. Both of you were rude. Also how old are your
children. Over here it is against the law to leave the children in
the car alone while you step in somewhere if they are under 10. Also
did you not get food for them. You left them hungry while you were
hungry. It took you three hours to calm down. I would hate to be a
child in your care.

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by vgpell Posted Fri March 23, 2007 @ 3:43 PM

I hope she yelled at you and put something in your SANDWHICH. You
think your race is superior to others? Please respond.

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Hi Virginia by Juicy Jade Fri March 23, 2007 @ 4:03 PM


Virginia, by PaintedLady Sat March 24, 2007 @ 3:54 PM

racist comment. by Prefect Zachary Sat March 24, 2007 @ 7:31 PM


I'm not the OP, but... by Blackrack Sun March 25, 2007 @ 8:30 AM


My white butt can kick your yellow one! by RedheadWGlasses Sun March 25, 2007 @ 3:44 PM


Well, it's be a close match... by Blackrack Sun March 25, 2007 @ 7:47 PM


How about pics of David Hasselhoff? =) by Aimeyir Tue March 27, 2007 @ 4:44 PM


Don't Hassel the hoff by Blackrack Wed March 28, 2007 @ 11:24 AM


Gotta love anyone who could be a German pop star....lol (n/t) by Aimeyir Thu March 29, 2007 @ 4:47 PM

But their chicken fries were uniform by Cubjunkie Mon March 26, 2007 @ 1:01 AM


i would like Virginia to respond (though i'm sure she won't) by Cee Dub Sat March 31, 2007 @ 2:05 PM


by Harleycat Posted Fri March 23, 2007 @ 2:39 PM

Who noticed that she had three kids with her but she was the only one
getting food?

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Hopefully by Juicy Jade Fri March 23, 2007 @ 3:21 PM


I noticed it by mary jo Fri March 23, 2007 @ 11:03 PM
by A A Posted Wed March 21, 2007 @ 10:02 PM

" I have never been so offended in my life! "
and you started "crying".
Grow some thick skin and get over it. Everyone in the world has had
multiple bad experiences with fast food. The end result, at its' worst
is you have a crappy lunch or lose $5. Forget it and quit crying,
adults don't cry over situations like this.

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by mary jo Posted Wed March 21, 2007 @ 8:46 PM

I hope you hear back from them...and i hope its a tresspassing warrent
to keep you out of their store.

If I had been that manager I would have called the cops on you.

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cops by Prefect Zachary Sat March 24, 2007 @ 7:34 PM


by nick l Posted Tue March 20, 2007 @ 9:41 PM

Threats of legal action...over a HAMBURGER!?!?!?

No lawyer who isn't named Lionel Hutz is going to even think about
taking up the case.

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Or... by KamenRiderOsaka Tue March 20, 2007 @ 11:41 PM
by Ryman Posted Tue March 20, 2007 @ 6:07 PM

In addition to the wondeful points already made by others I have to
ask (again):

What's with the demanding an apology? If you have to ask for it, do
you really think it will be sincere? For the life of me I will never
understand this request.

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by Cee Dub Posted Tue March 20, 2007 @ 11:27 AM

OP Wrote: "I replied that I was not going to get out of my car in the
pouring rain with 3 kids in the back. He replied, 'Well, I'm out here
in it!' "


And you don't think he has a point? I was with you until I read that.
Fast food workers/waitstaff/cashiers are all, ready for it? PEOPLE!
Just like you.

By the attitude in your letter I get the impression that you feel said
people are beneath you and don't deserve respect.

Yes, the time you had to wait was ridiculous. The way you handled it
was as well. Maybe you should work in the service industry and you
can see for yourself how it feels to be treated like dirt. Try being
polite when conducting business.

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by Lee H. Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 11:58 PM

Unfortunately, Andrea, I can't see anyone waiting 45 minutes. That
alone, makes me question the rest of your letter.

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by Gino Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 11:54 PM

I read your letter and I really felt for you up until the last
sentence. I'm surprised the employee actually left the building to
bring the order out (even though it was the wrong item in the bag).
What I don't understand is, at what level does "speaking loud" become
"yelling"? Is there a decibel range or is it up to the perception of
the people involved.

What saddens me is the race card being played, which the person
shouldn't have done, I agree, but sometimes when people are spoken
loudly at, they feel defensive and will lash back with the first thing
that comes to mind. The employee gave you an apology of sorts, face to
face, when he handed you your food.

I just think maybe emotions were high, both sides were angry and on
their last nerve. Perhaps wait for the anger to subside and re-write
the complaint or speak to another manager at the store, the one in the
photo. It may help diffuse the situation if you don't have to confront
each other. And maybe the problem can be resolved. Sometimes all it
takes is a little time.
I really don't see anything rising to the level of litigation.

Wish you luck and let us know how things work out!!

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by Kimbot Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 11:53 PM

http://www.break.com/index/burger_king_911.html

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re: is this you? by Cee Dub Tue March 20, 2007 @ 8:19 AM


OMG by CandyPickletoes Tue March 20, 2007 @ 10:39 AM


O.O by Blackrack Tue March 20, 2007 @ 2:22 PM

LMAO by Angelic Princess:) Mon March 26, 2007 @ 12:34 PM


Re: really bad service by donno Mon March 19, 2007 @ 7:14 PM

by myswtghst Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 7:36 PM

but she'd already "hung in there" for 45 minutes, which is, in my
opinion, an insane amount of time to wait for a hamburger at a
drive-thru. I don't blame her one bit for being upset. You'd have to
have superhuman patience to wait that long, be served cold food, wait
even longer, be served the wrong food, and still have to wait, yet
again, for the right food, at last, without being visibly upset.

That being said, I do not think the manager needs to be fired.
Reprimanded? Possibly. Particularly if she did make a potentially
racist remark. But everyone has bad days and misunderstandings, and
no one needs to be fired for one remark or mistake.

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by PaintedLady Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 9:44 PM

that being upset is perfectly normal in this situation, and explaining
that you are upset is, too. But honking a horn and speaking so loudly
that someone thinks you're yelling at them is not. Fast food workers
are not deaf, and deserve the same treatment the OP would demand if in
their shoes. Demanding (in a proper manner) a correct order and
explaining that you are upset/frustrated over a long wait is perfectly
acceptable, just not in the OP's manner.
IMO, a manager 'possibly' muttering something about this attitude
being because the manager was of a different color is no reason to be
as upset as the OP claims to be, nor a reason for anyone to be fired
(or reprimanded, if no proof exists).

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by PaintedLady Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 3:03 PM

Why does this letter remind me of chicken fries and waffles?

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by swim-mom Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 2:31 PM


WHY do people think the threat of legal action is going to get them
what they want??? The powers that be at Hardee's are going to take one
look at that and not even bother to respond. Why you ask? Once the
threat of legal action is made, they aren't going to risk responding
and having it used against them.
(FYI..I don't believe there is anything that happened in this incident
that warrants legal action anyways)

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There isn't anything in there... by myswtghst Mon March 19, 2007 @ 7:39 PM

by Juicy Jade Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 2:29 PM

I know this is a little off topic, but where were her 3 kids while she
went inside and had the little exchange with the manager?


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Off topic by LurkerNoMore Thu March 22, 2007 @ 11:17 PM
by S. Brown Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 1:47 PM

I think you need some professional help with your addiction to
Thickburgers.

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Yeah by Juicy Jade Mon March 19, 2007 @ 2:26 PM
by Juicy Jade Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 12:51 PM

Hardee's virtually every day? Ewwwwwww..... Did you know that a
regular thickburger has 57 grams of fat? Gross.

That's not exactly the healthiest addiction.

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57 grams of fat by RedheadWGlasses Mon March 19, 2007 @ 1:05 PM


Dang it!@ by PaintedLady Mon March 19, 2007 @ 3:32 PM


by Blackrack Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 12:39 PM

As someone who works in the food service industry, I find a lot of
poeple often forget that employees are humans, too. We're not perfect.
Equipment breaks and it takes time to fix, things need to be
corrected... In short, stuff happens.

There's nothing worse than being yelled at by a complete stranger, and
there's no excuse for it. If you were upset by this (I seriously doubt
it), think how the employee(s) must have felt.

Legal action? You're a joke, pal. You got your food after haressing
these poor people because your burger wasn't just the way you liked
it.

By the way... If you didn't want to get out of your car because it was
raining, how do you think the guy running out to give you your food
felt?

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But, she didn't yell... by Firebrat Tracy Mon March 19, 2007 @ 1:02 PM


By the way... by myswtghst Mon March 19, 2007 @ 7:42 PM


I'm Canadian, so we might do things differently... by Blackrack Tue March 20, 2007 @ 7:36 AM


No reason to yell, definitely by tickytack Tue March 20, 2007 @ 8:38 AM

OP by Prefect Zachary Sun April 1, 2007 @ 1:56 PM

by snurli Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 12:05 PM

Legal action to enforce a hamburger?

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Noo.. by PaintedLady Mon March 19, 2007 @ 3:33 PM
by Angelic Princess:) Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 11:00 AM

Ummm.. legal action for what?? because you got an attitude with the
associates there? Because you coulnd't get out of your car to go
inside in the first place??? Should have went home and cooked a HOME
cooked meal.. not fast food..You don't even know if the manager said
the racial comment. YOU said "The next thing she said was mumbled, so
I cannot quote her accurately, but it was something along the lines
of, "It's cause I'm black...", but I got the idea.".. For all you
know.. it could have been something totally different. I hate when
people try to take advantage of people who get "abused" at their job
(ok wrong wording.. get... treated lower i suppose).You could have
started eating something while the fries were getting done.

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Fast food / Home cooked meal by Tech Angel Mon March 19, 2007 @ 12:23 PM


Agreed! by Firebrat Tracy Mon March 19, 2007 @ 1:01 PM

im not saying there is.. by Angelic Princess:) Mon March 19, 2007 @ 10:52 PM


by MA Loper Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 10:22 AM

While it was far from a stellar experience, your antics and behavior
as illustrated in this letter are just a tad over the top, don't you
think?

Crying in a restaurant over a burger? Too upset to drive your car?
Took you 3 hours to calm down? And you did this in front of your
kids?

And then you fire this threatening nastygram chock full of threats
before even calling in to resolve the situation locally first. That's
not going to give them much incentive to fix things.

From the sound of it, other than this particular incident, it would
seem that you have had a somewhat decent expereience with Hardees. So
can I ask why one bad incident, that you haven't even given them the
chance to rectify yet, would cause you to not only to stop going
there, but to bad mouth them to everyone you know and contemplate
legal action (though I hate to tell you, reverse discrimination cases
are nearly IMPOSSIBLE to win)? Again, blowing things out of
proportion, just a little bit, aren't we?

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by Firebrat Tracy Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 8:55 AM

All of the other excellent comments aside, I can't help but snicker at
this part of your letter:

"I was so shocked at her response, because I was not yelling, just
speaking loudly and sounding very annoyed, justifiably."

Ummmmm, last I checked - isn't that an almost textbook definition of
yelling?

LOL

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by tickytack Posted Mon March 19, 2007 @ 8:38 AM

Snerk! Legal action? Yet another who thinks everything is
actionable. Yep. Good luck with THAT! Especially since no one
called you anything to your face - good luck proving it (especially
since you can't accurately quote what was said). And I can just
imagine the judge: "You waited too long for a hamburger? That's a
million dollars, right there!"

First of all, yes, you waited too long. Leaning on your horn,
however, was inappropriate action. Surely you must realize how
DISRUPTIVE that would have been to the employees, not to mention other
diners. But let me guess - their comfort is irrelevant?

I totally agree you should have received your food in a timely, polite
manner. That goes without saying. However, it does appear to me that
you got a little bent out of shape, as well. As to the comment that
you were too upset to drive and it took you three hours to calm down?
I call super exaggeration at that one.

As for "this person should be fired" - that is not your decision to
make and you have no right even requesting that.

As for a face to face personal apology? That's about as likely to
happen as any attorney taking you seriously on this.

Overall, I would say you're taking a rather unpleasant experience and
making much more of it than it need be. With all due respect, just
get over it.

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But.... by snurli Mon March 19, 2007 @ 5:56 PM

by Mike Holly Posted Sun March 18, 2007 @ 9:26 PM

I bet those people were teenagers. Teenagers are the worst fast food
employees ever. I've had problems with them at local fast food places
where I live.

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That's not fair, Mike by Venice Sun March 18, 2007 @ 11:14 PM


uh? by Kimbot Sun March 18, 2007 @ 11:35 PM


I agree n/t by Venice Mon March 19, 2007 @ 1:14 AM

Trained Hamburger Specialists by Rated Argh Mon March 19, 2007 @ 12:51 PM


Umm, by PaintedLady Mon March 19, 2007 @ 3:00 PM

Hamilton by Mike Holly Thu March 22, 2007 @ 6:41 PM


Man, you really hate teens, Mike... by Blackrack Mon March 19, 2007 @ 4:55 PM

by Venice Posted Sun March 18, 2007 @ 3:53 PM

I agree with the others, that last paragraph did you in. Up to that
point, I was feeling sorry for you and everyone else involved. If the
employee goes through life feeling that way, that's sad too. It
sounds like you were trying hard to keep it together, but her comment
put you over the edge.

Maybe... and this is a big maybe, when you are calmer, you could go
back and try to explain to the employee that your anger had nothing to
do with her color, and that you were very upset by the accusation.
You never know, you both might feel better in the end.

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by Harleycat Posted Sun March 18, 2007 @ 9:19 AM

You had me up to the last paragraph. It is not up to you to tell a
business how to discipline their employee and I don't think you have
any basis for legal action.

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by PaintedLady Posted Sun March 18, 2007 @ 12:26 AM

This sounds like a very bad trip to Hardee's, but do you really want
someone fired over it? You blasted your horn and raised your voice to
this woman enough that she thought you were yelling at her, she
assumed it was because she's black, so now you want her fired, and
then a face-to-face apology .....wow.

By the way, one of the first things your attorney is going to tell you
(when done laughing) is not to write incriminating letters detailing
your actions on the internet if you think you are going to sue.

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by The New and Improved Brenda Posted Sat March 17, 2007 @ 3:06 PM

Legal action for WHAT?

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