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Rude response to my polite request
Posted Tue April 17, 2007 10:24 pm, by Matt S. written to American Airlines, Inc.
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I had just over 7,000 Frequent Flier miles with American Airlines that apparently expired last year. They did not notify me or warn me they would expire. I politely asked them to reinstate the miles. Their response was to tell me that it's my fault I wasn't notified because I didn't sign up for e-mail alerts (wrong wrong wrong - in fact they frequently e-mail me offers to buy tickets!). They said because I didn't sign up for e-mail alerts (which again, I did) it's just too bad because they can't afford to snail mail people notices since it is too expensive. (a lie, they decided to cost cuts, and that's the bottom line. In 1980 I guarantee you they snail mailed people statements every month).
Then, get this, my miles which were worth $73 could be reinstated if I PAID them $50 for every 5,000 miles reinstated plus a $30 service charge. So they offered to give me the $73 in miles that I earned if I just pay them $103 first. THEN - they pitched me a credit card! Yep. Really classy.
You know what Delta did for me when the same thing happened? They added a flight that I never took which was worth 500 miles to my account right before the miles had expired, thus adding another 3 years to my expiration. Delta not only gave me my miles back - they gave me an additional 500 miles for free! Now that's a class act!
Apologize, reinstate my miles and explain to me why I should ever give them my business in the future.
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by donno Posted Sun April 22, 2007 @ 5:57 PM
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This is unfortunate. I don't see evidence of rudeness, but if that happened it shouldn't have.
I think the bottom line for me is that it was your responsibility to monitor the expiration, much like if you had a coupon with an expiry date you should keep track of that.
As far as email notification, well, I don't know about that. It makes sense to me that they don't mail them. That does put a burden on them, and it does cost money. The calendar says this is 2007, and times have changed.
They evidently have a policy for people who insist on getting their expired miles back, and it isn't to your liking and/or beneficial. I don't know what to say about that either.
I had a ticket I didn't use one time that was good for a year. I was casual about it, and it did what time does - expired. I blamed myself. I suppose as a frequent flyer you feel the company should treat you well. Air travel has become so competetive that nobody is very special anymore. This is unfortunate.
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by A A Posted Sat April 21, 2007 @ 4:27 PM
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I think if I were the customer service with the way things are for airlines these days -if I had the power to do it- I would have let him have the miles no big deal really.
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by pokervixxen Posted Fri April 20, 2007 @ 10:36 PM
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They should have given him the miles, after all, he paid to travel with them to accumulate them. Perhaps he did make a mistake by forgetting to check his account, but that is human error. Furthermore, he signed up for the email notification which he never received. Appearantly the readers don't understand the concept of customer service. The airline could have honored his miles out of goodwill to maintain his loyalty which would have cost the company very little since they were already paid for; instead they denied him and lost thousands of dollars with future business.
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by Venice Posted Fri April 20, 2007 @ 4:05 AM
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We're waiting.
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7,000 miles isn't much if you're a frequent flier. It doesn't sound like you give them enough business (1) for them to bend the rules to appease you or (2) to make it worth keeping track of your own miles.
What's it take to get a free flight these days? 25,000? 30,000?
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by mac c Posted Wed April 18, 2007 @ 4:49 PM
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The point I think you guys are missing, is that American Airlines had an opportunity to make a customer happy at virtually no cost to them. Instead of giving a little good will and reinstating his miles, they wanted him to buy them back at more than what they were worth, in addition they tried to sell him a credit card to boot.
If you haven't noticed, the airline industry is extremely competitive, all airlines are in rough shape. This person doesn't seem to be looking to rip them off for a quick buck.
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by calm Posted Wed April 18, 2007 @ 3:23 PM
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Your miles are your responsibility, not American's. If they said they'd send you an email, they should have, but it's possible that it bounced, that it got caught in a spam filter, or that you were skimming fast and thought it was another offer for tickets. And in any event, your miles are your responsibility, not Americans.
So they don't owe you anything.
You are, in other words, asking for a favor. And a favor that they've gone to go to some trouble to *not* make an entitlement, so you're asking for a favor not granted to everyone.
You've given no indication of what the American rep's rude *behavior* was, and between that fact and your interjections into even a description of what he or she said ("wrong wrong wrong", "a lie", "classy") it comes off as if you were rude to him or her rather than the other way around -- and you're definitely being rude in this letter.
Telling you they're not going to do something that their agreement says they don't have to do is not, in itself, rude.
I would think that, since you want them to do you a favor, it would be in your best interest to be polite on the phone, in this letter, and in every other dealing with them. After all, the main incentive they have for doing you this favor is keeping you as a customer, so if you present yourself as the sort of customer they'd prefer to lose to Delta, they're going to be thrilled that Delta agreed to do the favor rather than worried about your demand for an apology, an essay on why they deserve you as a passenger, and money you are not owed.
After all, if they started sending you letters calling you a liar who is wrong wrong wrong and completely lacking in class besides, and also ordering you to apologize to them, send $73, and beg them to let you fly on their airline again, you wouldn't be falling all over yourself to comply either, would you?
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by tickytack Posted Wed April 18, 2007 @ 12:38 PM
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"In 1980 I guarantee you they snail mailed people statements every month"
Guess what, darlin'?
It isn't 1980 any longer and if they tell you it's too expensive to send snail mail, how is that "a lie - they just want to cut costs"?
Last I checked, not doing something because it is too expensive is, in fact, cutting costs.
Apologize? For what? The fact that you failed to notice that your miles had expired?
Bottom line. This was your ball to drop, and you did.
Get over it.
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by Here's my .02 Cents . Posted Wed April 18, 2007 @ 7:20 AM
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"No" does not equal "rude." Yes, Delta did a very nice thing, which they didn't HAVE to do. They're your frequent flier miles; keep track of them. Maybe in 1980, they had a lot fewer people to mail. It's too bad you let them expire, but just because Delta went out of their way to do something nice doesnt mean American is rude for sticking to their policies.
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