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Kawasaki, Please Consider Moms and Motorcycles
Posted Tue June 12, 2007 12:00 pm, by Christa C. written to Kawasaki Motors Corp USA
Write a Letter to this Company
I am in the market for a motorcycle. The only thing that keeps me from getting one is that no one (that I know of) has made a way for a small child to ride on one safely. I have 1 kid, I am only 25, I still have a lot of youthful experiences ahead of me. I bet there are a lot of mothers of 1 child out there that would love the experience, not to mention the gas mileage, of riding a motorcycle. Apparently no one in the motorcyle industry has tried to target us as a market. With the rising cost in gas, we need to be marketed. Someone needs to come up with a child bucket (like the ones on the backs of bicycles) that would be safe to put a toddler in and take them to daycare. This would open up a whole lot more products that you could make and market to us like baby helmets, leather jackets, all the riding accessories mom would have but for baby. The only thing I have found close to this is a holster to put baby on your back but this would be hard to do and possibly dangerous with a child older than 1 yr. Please help us young moms enjoy riding too.
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by Tika Posted Mon September 3, 2007 @ 3:28 PM
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I hate to ruin this for everyone but there are seats available for small children. I wouldn't put a 1yo on the back of my bike but I would have liked to have something to make it safer for my younger son.
Here is a site with one seat available...
http://www.stamatakis.de/e-index.htm
Here is a seat for a child riding belt...
http://www.childridingbelt.com/enghome.htm
If it will show up, here is a pic of another type of seat. I don't know where to get it though.
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by Angelic Princess:) Posted Sun July 1, 2007 @ 12:30 AM
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I know this is a very late comment.. but I just had to put this up here.. When I went to check my e-mail, this was on the Yahoo! homepage: http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=465941&cache=1
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Maybe wait until the little one is a little older and get a side car?
My dad was a motorcycle policeman and some of my fondest memories of him was when he'd pop by home to check on mom and us kids and he'd put us in the side car and go for a little ride around the neighbourhood...
A bucket seat on the bike? I'd be too afraid to put a kid in that! Sidecar...yes, if the little one was strapped in like a mummy and you were not going on the highway (just local roads).
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by leena-chan Posted Thu June 21, 2007 @ 9:39 AM
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I have 1 kid, I am only 25, I still have a lot of youthful experiences ahead of me.
Maybe you should have thought about that BEFORE you took on the responsibility of being a parent. Having a baby means goodbye to 'youthful experiences' and hello to 'grown-up responsibility'.
Stop treating your child as an accessory and start treating it like the dependent and fragile human being it is.
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by Kusanagi Posted Wed June 20, 2007 @ 1:31 PM
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Take the money you'd spend on the bike and get your tubes tied.
You should not have children, period. I weep for the one you do have.
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by Rony Posted Wed June 20, 2007 @ 9:21 AM
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I have to agree with all the others. I ride a motorcycle, a Kawasaki at that. I am a mother but under NO circumstances would I ever want to put my child on the back of my motorcycle and ride on the streets with him. NO way! Do you not know even with helmets and leather home many people die because motorcycles are just not seen as easily as a car? Why would you ever want to put your child in that type of danager? Please, Kawasaki do NOT take this idiot seriously. A bucket! Get real lady!
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by mstendardo Posted Sun June 17, 2007 @ 8:33 PM
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Want some excitement??? Give you kid a lighter and a can of gasoline you freakin idiot!!!
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by Posted Sun June 17, 2007 @ 12:15 PM
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Anyone want to take a bet on how many times CPS will be called on this
woman while her child is in her care?
If she has this sort of approach, I cannot IMAGINE how the child is
being cared for on a day-to-day basis.
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by Kim Maas Posted Fri June 15, 2007 @ 2:00 AM
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I agree with others, have you thought about the dangers of motorcycling? No one should even ride or touch a motorcycle without first thinking about the dangers. Almost all beginners will end up in an accident sometime and if you had your child while you are in an accident, who will suffer the most? Also, motorcycling is not meant to be a sport for children. Sorry, but it's not. Buy your child a dirt bike when he/she can compensate the sport, is old enough, and after YOU have had ample Beginner Safety Course training first! Please, do not expect a company to change its projects, products, and its services to accommodate a baby. It is a liability issue for them and motorcycling takes far more awareness, skill, and focus to do than driving a car. Cars are larger and much more safer. If gas is an issue, buy a small compact car that is safety tested for children. Motorcycles may look cool and it may be cool to be on them, but please do not mix them up with being toys, because in less than one second they can be extremely deadly toys.
Thanks for your time,
A big Kawasaki fan.
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I think you need to rethink getting a motorcycle till your little baby is gone from the nest or would you rather have an accident while you are riding a motorcycle with your kid seated behind you.
Accidents do happen, my dear. Even with motorcycles. Have you ever seen a road rash happen to someone? Think about your child getting road rash or worse being killed by an accident that happened to you and your motorcycle while on the road.
Do you even have leather motorcycle gear for your kid? If you don't, think about spending hundreds of dollars getting specialized gear for your child each year as they grow. All that money could be spent on things that would be good for your family - like food, rent, clothes and books for your kid to read.
If you want a motorcycle, please think about waiting till your child is older, till then, get a car.
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This HAS to be a joke, right?
no really, right???
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by donno Posted Thu June 14, 2007 @ 12:07 AM
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Dear Christa,
We were surprised, yet please to receive your letter. We just happen to have a prototype of a product that may fit your needs.
We call it the Tot-Wing 1500. What is does is make your Kawasaki fly. This way, both your and your loved one can not only be safe,but also take advantage of low friction, high mileage riding.
You may wonder what happenes if you run out of fuel. Our engineers have solved that; there is a parachute pack that fits to the back of your young one, and the one chute supports the entire TW1500 and its passengers.
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by Richard S. Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 4:54 PM
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I am sorry to have to say this, but you should not be a parent if you think there is a safe way to put your kid on the back of a motorcycle. If you want to take your kid with you while riding on two wheels GET A BICYCLE WITH THE APPROPRIATE SAFETY SEAT.
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by S. Brown Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 3:40 PM
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Sounds to me like your "youthful experiences" are more important that the safety of your kid.
I seriously doubt there are very many other mothers out there that would "love the experience" of putting their child's life at risk.
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by Sava Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 2:58 PM
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Ummm....my husband has a Harley, and even if he could have, there is no WAY he would be putting a child on the back until that child is old enough to grasp the concept of riding. A squirmy or fidgety kid (or any rider, for that matter) can throw off the balance of the bike and make it more likely to tip over. My daughter first rode with my husband when she was almost 7, and mature enough to understand how to hold on and grip properly going into turns, over large bumps, etc.
Even still, she doesn't get to go on super-long rides. No matter how safe a rider YOU are, there is always some other idiot on the road not paying attention when changing lanes on the highway, backing out of a driveway, etc. And ANY motorcycle accident usually involves alot of injury, even to an adult, imagine what it would do to say, a toddler, even WITH protective helmet and gear!
For the record: my husband was just involved in a motorcycle accident a few weeks ago, road defect caused it, and even with full leather protective gear, helmet, riding boots and gloves, he almost lost his right leg and has had4 surgeries so far to re-align bones and skin grafts to replace what came off when he hit the road. This is a grown man now lying in the hospital - what would that have done to a child? Riding with too young of a child on a bike is NOT feasible, that's why the bikes aren't designed that way.
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by KenPC Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 1:45 PM
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wow... get a clue... there is NO way to put a child on a motorcycle safely.
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by nick l Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 1:32 PM
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Gimme a C!
Gimme a P!
Gimme an S!
Now let's call them up!
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by Blackrack Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 11:36 AM
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I've been on motorcycles more than a few times (and since a good friend of mine just got one, am going to be spending a lot more time on one). Even just riding behind (I refuse to use the actual term) takes coordination not to tip over or fall off.
I hope to god that this letter is a joke and that you don't intend to put your small child on a motorcycle. My father had one before they adopted me, and my other father made him sell it out of principal of being a parent. If he had ever suggested taking me on it as an infant, he would have been divorced within the week.
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by J.Kristin Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 9:50 AM
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Um, NO. 'Cause it would NEVER happen.
Can't you just imagine? Considering babies have their needs while in the backs of comfy mini-vancs and whatnot --you know, where you can actually HEAR them and respond-- can't you just imagine the way a baby is going to feel on the back of a motorcycle?
I don't have one, so forgive me if I'm wrong, but what about the noise? Would you be able to hear your child? Comfort them if they're crying? What about the inability to control temperature? What if it rains?
Frankly, this reminds me of putting chihuahua's in purses and carrying them around with you. It's a fashion thing, isn't it? Cute biker mom and her little biker babe carrying their little leather diaper bag and matching diapeys?
Personally, Christa, my dear, I think you should write to Graco and Evenflo and ask them WHY in the WORLD they haven't thought of attaching jetpacks to the backs of their stollers. And don't forget to ask that the companies design matching space suits for baby and momma.
(You know, I wasn't like this before I started reading this site....)
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Oh honey...
by Firebrat Tracy Wed June 13, 2007 @ 12:17 PM
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by Harleycat Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 9:15 AM
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TODDLERS DO NOT BELONG ON MOTORCYCLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excuse me for shouting but, as a biker, I can't believe you actually are thinking about this. Being a responsible rider also means having responsible passengers. Passengers must be able reach the pegs, hold on, not wiggle around, wear protective gear and pay attention to "cues" from the driver. Toddlers cannot do any of this.
Since you approached this from a saving money point of view, do you realize how much proper riding gear costs? You will constantly be replacing it as your child grows older. A good, full face helmet is several hundred dollars! I assume you won't want to "cheap out" on your child and a helmet must fit properly in order to be effective.
My stepdaughter rides with my husband but she is 13. We started teaching her to be a passenger when she was about 10. By teaching her I mean, short trips, getting her gear, showing her how to sit and how to hold on. We also showed her what not to do and what not to touch. Do you know how hot exhaust pipes can get? I've melted sneakers on them and I know many a biker with burn scars from touching them.
It sounds to me like neither you or your child is ready to ride. Buy a car!
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by mswaim Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 8:31 AM
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I hope this letter is some sort of sick joke. Who, in their right mind, would even consider taking a ONE YEAR OLD out on a motorcycle??!!
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Have you actually ridden a motorcycle? Taken safety courses? I have been riding since last fall and I can't IMAGINE being responsible for a passenger, let alone a BABY.
Since your primary objective here seems rather prurient (looking hot and getting some ackshone), you've shown that you're not mature enough to be a mother. Please consider putting your child in foster care while you continue to GROW UP.
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sigh ...
by Lou Lou Fri June 15, 2007 @ 11:35 AM
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And ..
by Lou Lou Fri June 15, 2007 @ 11:37 AM
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Hmmm
by Lou Lou Tue July 3, 2007 @ 6:20 PM
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by vc Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 7:37 AM
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Dear Kathleen,
Please let us know if you get any favorable responses from any of the companies you've written about this. If you do I would like you to write letters to various companies on my behalf to bring back the
summertime fun of Jarts. Stupid bureaucrats and their meddling ways.
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Um, I've been riding motorcycles with my dad since I was five, could HOLD ON and could find an appropriate helmet to wear (Daddy refuses to let me ride without my jacket and everything) but...a BABY? I'm sorry, but that is just ridiculous to want a 'baby sling' for a motorcycle. (Sounds dangerous too...>.>)
Regards,
Cheyenne
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by - Leanne- Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 4:14 AM
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The money you'd save in gas would go right to the highest most outrageous motorcycle insurance you could possibly fathom. I'm uncomfortable with this request, as it goes against parental instinct.
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by Peregrina Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 3:07 AM
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She posted I think three versions of this letter. In one she made a rather foul observation that made me feel a little sick. Are we sure this isn't a troll?
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it must be..
by Angelic Princess:) Wed June 13, 2007 @ 4:00 PM
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oh!
by Angelic Princess:) Wed June 13, 2007 @ 4:35 PM
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by Lee H. Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 1:40 AM
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Christa,
Don't be stupid.
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There would be several problems with that scenario. A passenger on a motorcycle has to lean into curves along with the driver. That would be extremely difficult with a small child in a seat. Not to mention that motorcycles are open, which means in the case of an accident, there is an extremely high chance that a child will get seriously injured or killed, much more so than in a car. There is also a chance of the child getting hit by flying debris. If you want to even consider this, you may have to get a sidecar. That would probably be the only semi-safe way to transport a small child on a motorcycle.
Best bet, just buy a small, fuel efficient hybrid car.
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by Venice Posted Tue June 12, 2007 @ 11:30 PM
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Much to my own surprise, I'm not sure this idea should be completely written off. While I certainly don't think it should be the only form of transportation, and it shouldn't be done on congested roads or in traffic, I think there are other situations where this wouldn't be as dangerous as it seems. There are a lot of places where I live to ride motorcycles under very safe conditions for recreational purposes. It would be nice for parents to be able to take their children along in the safest way possible. The fact that holsters are available leads me to believe the industry already smiles on the idea of little passengers on a motorcycle.
I don't think a child should be transported to daycare on a motorcycle each day, but I do think there's a market for accommodating parents who wish to include their children in their own fun and leisure activities.
This response is so out of character for me, but it actually was my first reaction when I read the letter.
Feel free to let me have it, but please be gentle... haha
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by Gino Posted Tue June 12, 2007 @ 11:29 PM
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Those little "harley" onesies, tee shirts, and leather jackets really do ROCK! Levi's even makes jeans to fit babies, just like the ones rodeo riders wear and I think they're cute too. I even have baby pictures of my own in a saylor's outfit... but I doubt my mom would put me on a ship off the coast of Iraq either then OR now.
If that were the case, and your foolish attempt at even SUGGESTING making motorcycling a viable transportation option for infants and children, there's a big problem with the military. Women who chose to join the armed services are suffering from separation anxiety. How about fitting infants and chidren with camo back carriers and baby seats for hum vees? Not only cute, but it solves the problem of moms not being with their little ones for a long period of time. "Take your children to work day" IS for everyone, right?
Sorry Crista, you're way out in left field with this one. If you really think this turkey will fly, then I suggest you re-think this parenting idea and ride off into the sunset on your motorcycle. You're priorities as a parent should be that your child always comes before your need for happiness. Your child didn't ask to be born. You made that choice of your own free will and your child deserves better.
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by kjandj Posted Tue June 12, 2007 @ 11:27 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather have safe kids instead of being seen as a MILF on a motorcycle. The thought of my kids being smeared on the highway doesn't appeal to me.
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Typo. :)
by TwinkleToes Tue June 12, 2007 @ 11:05 PM
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by Laura Posted Wed June 13, 2007 @ 8:32 PM
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I've been putting him on the fluff cycle of the clothes dryer!
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Donorcycles.....do I really need to say more? I cannot believe that you wrote this letter to Kawasaki and Honda. Perhaps no respectable company wants to see your young child splattered all over the highway and then see you sue them when that happens.
:::Shudders:::
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