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Please Be a Responsible Citizen, Cingular
Posted Thu October 4, 2007 12:00 pm, by Cletus J. written to Cingular Wireless (now ATT Mobility)
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I was perusing one of the malls on the outskirts of Washington DC while here on vacation; I think it is Prince George's Plaza.
I happened to notice that one of the Cingular keosks has a very prominent sign written entirely in Spanish. I was able to read most of the sign's meaning using contextual clues, and the jist of it is: No Social Security Number, No Problem. I feel this is aimed directly at the Hispanic population that is in this country illegally, and it sickens me that your company feels the need to go after scofflaws just to sign up new customers.
Stop enabling illegal aliens; sell your product to law-abiding citizens/residents and if you must post signs, remember this: We are in the United States, English with a subtitle of Spanish is ok, but a sign that omits any English is abysmal.
Be a responsible Citizen of the Country that made you Million$$$.
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by lj Posted Sat October 13, 2007 @ 1:18 AM
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I agree, your not in Mexico. Use English and Spanish in the subtitle. Go figure!
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by MeganML84 Posted Fri October 12, 2007 @ 4:28 PM
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Cingular is an ENTITY, not a citizen.
Or ENTIDAD en espaol...
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by Max Power Posted Thu October 11, 2007 @ 9:17 AM
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Some folk'll never eat a skunk
But then again, some folk'll...
Like Cletus
The slack-jawed yokel.
...
Most folk'll never lose a toe
And then again, some folk'll...
Like Cletus
The slack-jawed yokel.
Hehe, The Simpsons are great :)
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by Natasha Buttell Posted Mon October 8, 2007 @ 5:26 PM
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Since you interpreted this sign with "contextual clues", are you sure you read it correctly? Just remember that in Spanish, Embarazada means pregnant, not embarrassed, that if you ask where to buy a dag in Israel, you'll be pointed to the nearest aquarium, and in French, anon is a baby donkey, not an alcoholic at his five o'clock meeting.
I don't think I should have to give out my SSN to get a phone either, but that's another story.
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by Blackrack Posted Sun October 7, 2007 @ 2:28 PM
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I think the OP is more concerned about the fact they're selling to illegals than that the sign's in Spanish (although he doesn't seem overly pleased about that, either).
I'm not familiar with American policy, but many people in Canada don't get their SIN number (equivilent to the SS, I believe) until they're in their teens in order to get a job. Some get them younger if they have trust funds or savings bonds in their names.
Also, there is the chance that you completely mistranslated the sign.
The country that made you millions? They make plenty of other millions in other countries.
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Ah.
by Blackrack Mon October 8, 2007 @ 12:28 PM
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by a_simple_girl Posted Sat October 6, 2007 @ 11:46 AM
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We live in the USA, there is no official anything. Many people come from different backgrounds and speak different languages.
Here's a detailed profile on Washington D.C from City-Data..
http://www.city-data.com/city/Washington-District-of-Columbia.html
And here's a profile for Hyattsville, MD which is one of the bigger towns in Prince George's county..
http://www.city-data.com/city/Hyattsville-Maryland.html
Businesses are out there to make money and devote their services to better serve their customers. From what was seen above, this area has a big population of spanish speaking citizens and many of them have been living there for years and are legal. If you don't like it, then just walk away and shop somewhere else.
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by Adam W Posted Fri October 5, 2007 @ 10:23 PM
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I live in a neighborhood where the primary language is Spanish. ALL of the signs are in Spanish around here. Get used to it. It's not going away.
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by Peregrina Posted Fri October 5, 2007 @ 8:26 PM
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My attitude towards stuff like this is the same as my attitude back in the 90s when they wanted to teach Ebonics in California schools in place of English. Fine, I don't care, but without English you aren't going to go very far in this country. To me it is just common sense to become fluent in the dominant language of the country where you are living, but that doesn't mean all other languages should be ignored or downgraded. When I see signs in Spanish, I am always pleased if I can read it, since it means I haven't forgotten what I once knew.
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by ColoradoCOP Posted Fri October 5, 2007 @ 6:54 PM
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I'm not really sure where I stand on this issue. I guess for me, it doeen't really matter if illegals are able to obtain a cell phone. They still have to pay for them to keep them active. They don't pay, they don't have service. It's a different story w/ credit cards however! As far as the signs in Spanish, I do not disagree w/ a sign in Spanish, but I would hope they have one in English as well. It does not hurt you if an illegal has a cell phone, so why make such a big deal out of it?
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by Max Power Posted Fri October 5, 2007 @ 5:18 PM
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Am I the only one that wishes that companies stop requiring SSN for transactions or contracts? The way I understand it, SSN are for our employers and government to know and use for our retirement. Why should I need to provide Cingular with my SSN to get a cell phone?
I wish more companies followed Cingular's and BofA's steps and stop asking for SSN, whether some people see it as catering to illegals or not.
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Every country has their own passport. (i worked at a bank that had a ton of foreign currency exchanges, so I've seen many many different passports)
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I agree
by U B Fri October 5, 2007 @ 4:31 PM
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by Gino Posted Thu October 4, 2007 @ 10:21 PM
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Hi Clete,
Just wondering out loud...
Can you do the same interpretive contextual clue interpretation with Russian? I live in a city that has a lot of Russian immigrants, and I'm pretty good at latin languages, but Russian is Greek to me. It's on busses, in docor's offices, and all kinds of print advertising and I think, maybe, they are talking about me. Any suggestions? ;O)
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so sad
by "Clete" Thu October 4, 2007 @ 8:49 PM
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by DragonflygrrlTheGreat Posted Thu October 4, 2007 @ 7:18 PM
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I attend a university with a large number of international students. None of them speak English as their first language, and not being American citizens, none of them has a social security number. Are these people somehow not eligible for a cell phone by your logic? Or is "enabling" people in this country for purposes of education or lawful employment against your ethics? Keep in mind, I attend school in the midwestern United States; I would imagine that the Washington, D.C. area is far more multicultural than my town.
Furthermore, there IS NO OFFICIAL LANGUAGE in the United States of America (http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_lang.html). I'm sick of people claiming that there is. It's just not the case, and whether it is your intention or not, suggesting otherwise makes you look like a poorly informed xenophobe. In areas which contain large numbers of Spanish speaking people (many of whom are citizens enjoying their constitutional right not to be discriminated against on the basis of nationality), it makes sense to put ads in Spanish, so the target market of that area can easily read them.
Anyone who cannot deal with the idea of people from many cultures speaking many languages should probably remain safely ensconced in his or her home. Multiculturalism isn't likely to go anywhere, and Cingular (one hopes) isn't likely to stop marketing to a major segment of their target demographic because you must rely on context clues to read certain signs.
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Ugh. I just cant have this discussion anymore.
I'll just shorten it up a little bit.
English is not officially our national language. Seriously. USA currently does not have an official language.
If you go to europe, there are signs in multiple languages. It doesnt mean they cater to illegals, they just are considerate to people visiting.
*unrelated sidenote* The sign you are reading about the SSN is most likely for pre-pay, which does not require a SSN to activate, since no credit is ran and no contract is signed. Of course to sign up for a 2 year agreement a SNN is most definitely require, but prepay has no such stipulations. Therefor Cingular is in no way catering to illegal immigrants, nor helping them circumvent the law.
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by Ahsha Posted Thu October 4, 2007 @ 4:15 PM
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How do you know all the Hispanics are habitually violating the law and refusing to answer court summonses? Not all Spanish speaking people are illegals.
Maybe the same sign was posted in English also and you just failed to see it.
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whoa Hoss
by "Clete" Thu October 4, 2007 @ 6:05 PM
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You
by Ahsha Thu October 4, 2007 @ 6:10 PM
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