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no oversight at customer service at ebay; no chance of a reasonable solution!

Posted Tue January 22, 2008 2:02 pm, by P. I. written to EBay

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I had enjoyed using and receiving items as a newbie user at ebay for around 2 months; got and gave good reviews; always paid immediately after a win or purchase, etc., but when the email customer service department suspended my account indefinitely, the whole system seems like an out-of-character joke, or at least a unsupervised front for a really bad scam run by some teenage scammers at the legitimate ebay web address.

1. No reason was ever given for my account suspension (and it is probably a mistake). I played their game of using only superlatives for my purchases (I did not sell) (i.e., "Great purchase, fast shipping," "Fantastic seller - no complaints"...ad nauseum). Could it possibly be the timing of my ONE not-so-stellar feedback on LINDA's Camera World in CA? (http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=lindas_camera_world) She sent multiple, unsolicited, and annoying emails after my purchase to also buy over-priced camera accessories (SD memory cards) from her. I just told the truth!! I didn't want anything else from her shop and stop sending me emails to that effect. No other ebay seller ever did this to the degree she did. But, I was relatively easy on her because it was EBAY, afterall. I wanted to ask ebay, was it this or something else that was a simple mistake? I will never know.
2. No reason or solution was ever forthcoming from their email customer service department other than requiring me to fax a utility bill and a page from my current credit card statement (I only used Paypal), supply my birthdate and social security number, and just wait for their answer! Yea, right!
3. When I told them there was no way I would fall for a phishing scam and identity theft over the Internet, they just ignored my objections and repeated their silly requirements. No possibility of getting hold of a supervisor. It seemed funny to them when I pointed out the obvious and asked for some kind of serious confirmation.
4. I can't return to set up another account, and at this point, I really don't want to give them the satisfaction of having my business after they blew it so bad with an honest (albeit, new) customer.

This action was so flagrant, one-sided and unchecked, I don't see any way I could ever trust ebay again.


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by Marty5223 Posted Sun January 27, 2008 @ 4:13 PM

This is a scam..I received the same letter after I signed up and made
a purchase. I am willing to bet your account is still open and
working. Mine was fine....I got this same account suspended email
like 4 times in a 6 week period. I just put it in spam where it
belonged.


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by Srgntpeppr Posted Thu January 24, 2008 @ 9:14 AM

After reading a lot of posts by people trying to help you and your
subsequent responses to them I can only conclude that your opinion is
Ebay is in the wrong and no other answer will satisfy you.

While there are a few horror stories out there about Ebay, there are
many, many satisfied users. I personally have both bought and sold
from Ebay for a few years now, and any problem I ever had (and I've
dealt with a few scammers in that time) was dealt with quickly and
fairly.

There are more than a few answers already that satisfy your questions,
it only appears now that you're looking for validation and a few
"who's with me?" responses. This really isn't the place for that.
Maybe you should do a search for "ebay sucks" or something along those
lines so you can post in a forum that will genuinely make you feel
better about all of this.

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of course there are... by Dubbed Wed February 6, 2008 @ 10:56 AM
by belldandy112 Posted Thu January 24, 2008 @ 2:38 AM

A long time ago, I was on Ebay. I bought an item and was subsequently
stalked by the crazy seller. We're talking harrassing phone calls in
the middle of the night. I reported it to Ebay, they did nothing.
Then came the worst of it - my name and address started popping up on
Internet hate sites. The seller was posting my name, mailing address,
email address and phone number, I'm not kidding. So now I'm getting
phone calls not just from crazy seller, but from other crazy
strangers.

Then Ebay suspended my account. See, I had the seller ship the item
to my parent's address, where I was staying, and this differed from
the address on my Ebay account. So gee, I must have been up to no
good. Ebay will never have my business again, NEVER, EVER.

BTW, I tell this story to as many people as I can. Ebay does not have
good business practices. You're good to be rid of them.

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How in the world by Srgntpeppr Thu January 24, 2008 @ 9:01 AM

Ebay crazies by belldandy112 Thu January 24, 2008 @ 4:11 PM


And Ebay is better off by donno Thu January 24, 2008 @ 8:13 PM


by donno Posted Wed January 23, 2008 @ 1:05 PM

This is Ebay's Suspension Reinstatement info page:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/reinstfaq.html

You state you were asked: "...to fax a utility bill and a page from my
current credit card statement (I only used Paypal), supply my
birthdate and social security number." This sounds like a cross
between Ebay's policy, linked above, and phishing.

As an aside, I don't think using PayPal or having a credit card
already on file is related to Ebay's request. They asked for a credit
card statement to help confirm your identity. They also want a
utility bill and a copy of a government id.

I don't see anything in Ebay's reinstatement policy that would require
you to give them your SSN. On one of Ebay's pages it says "Ebay will
never ask a user for their SSN."

As I wrote in another reply, Ebay reserves the right to ask for more
information of new user's to verify their identity. It sounds
like this is what is happening. The wringer is the SSN, which I don't
believe they ask for. That doesn't sound right.

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Paypal never asked me by Clear thoughts produce clear results Wed January 23, 2008 @ 7:36 PM

There is a website by April Smith Wed January 23, 2008 @ 8:59 PM

In fairness by Srgntpeppr Thu January 24, 2008 @ 9:05 AM


Help me out here, I responded to your comment and am trying to help: by donno Wed January 23, 2008 @ 11:31 PM

Dude- Be sure to read the "From" line to see who is talking. by Dubbed Wed February 6, 2008 @ 1:43 PM
by Richard S. Posted Wed January 23, 2008 @ 12:28 PM

If you are able to log into your account and bid on an item your
account has not been suspended. If you have "no longer a registered
user" next to your ebay ID, your account has been suspended and you
will need to contact ebay and work with them to get your account
re-instated. They should be able to tell you why you were suspended.


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so far, not good. by Dubbed Wed January 23, 2008 @ 12:31 PM
by dottiejean28 Posted Wed January 23, 2008 @ 8:59 AM

Its a phishing scam! They asked for my bank account number! I click on
the link and it said the site was removed...so definitly was a
phishing site

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same here. by Dubbed Wed January 23, 2008 @ 12:28 PM


by Clear thoughts produce clear results Posted Wed January 23, 2008 @ 2:38 AM

Never trust an email that comes directly to your email address.
Always just consider emails in your "MY MESSAGES" section as true.

Someone may have used your ID. Believe it or not it happens. They
actually look like they are you, take payments for non-existing items
and then buyers complain or report you.
It really looks genuine.
Trust me I get them at least 2-3 times a week.

OR someone reported you.
Look at the bottom of any listing. There is a place to click for
"report this listing". Depeeding on what they (or SHE?????) said, you
could actaully get booted.
You agreed to that in the LONG LONG LONG stuff they made you ceck OK
for when you signed up.
There is NO NEED for your social security number EVER on Ebay. EVER.
I would go to "help" and report that you were a victim of breached
security and complain. Ebay's attitude will change quickly.

SAVE ALL YOUR EMAILS, too! You may need them

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'Booted for no reason' must be in the fine print. by Dubbed Wed January 23, 2008 @ 12:12 PM


true but imagine by Clear thoughts produce clear results Wed January 23, 2008 @ 7:37 PM


Re: no oversight at customer service at ebay; no chance of a reasonable solution! by donno Tue January 22, 2008 @ 4:47 PM

Obviously, Arbitrary Suspensions Happen! by Dubbed Wed January 23, 2008 @ 12:02 PM


Here is what happens: by donno Wed January 23, 2008 @ 12:39 PM

"We"? How do YOU know? You seem too close, somehow. by Dubbed Wed January 23, 2008 @ 1:16 PM


"We" is Ebay in that sentence. by donno Wed January 23, 2008 @ 2:04 PM


That seller does NOT have good feedback. by Hannova Thu January 24, 2008 @ 12:21 PM

by donno Posted Thu January 24, 2008 @ 8:38 PM

If you give credit for all the Buyers that misread the ads before
purchasing, this Seller's feedback would be more like 99.5%. I
spent 20 minutes looking through the negative feedbacks.
Many
buyers posted negatives that showed they failed to read the
descriptions carefully. This is clear from the Seller's responses.
And you know what? I did not see a single Buyer post a Follow-up to
those Seller's responses. Nothing like "Seller is lying," "Not true,"
etc You have to interpret feedback carefully. You have to go read
the text comments, and not rely just on numbers. To say you wouldn't
send your money to someone with a 98.9% rating has no meaning at all
without backing it up with other evidence.

The seller is selling Chinese knockoffs, but their ads are written to
describe that junk accurately. It is up to the Buyers to
determine if an item suits them. If 99+ out of 100 people determine
that Chinese knockoff cameras suit their needs, and are happy with
their purchases, then so be it. People looking for those products
would be happy with this Seller.

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by Dubbed Posted Wed February 6, 2008 @ 2:33 PM

We are all so happy that ebay buyers can blame ebay sellers and those
sellers can blame the buyers. Well, isn't that special? Just where is
the "service" in ebay's customer service?


To be as clear as possible, my one and ONLY comment was getting more
and more email spam by this seller (Linda) for other crap (SD cards)
that I did not want to buy the first time she asked. That was it!!
Could this possibly justify a buyer's suspension at any other business
you can think of?


Plus, I did not give her an "F", just a "C" with a
heads-up to others out there that they were also buying some
unnecessary spam with their original transaction. I see this as a
proper role for customer "feedback" and seller improvement.
They should be thanking me for taking the time to provide constructive
feedback, when necessary.


So...I can see the ebay feedback system as less than perfect and
easily misunderstood (for example, 98.5% vs. 99.5% means what
exactly?) especially when (and if) an innocuous comment doesn't sound
like puckered lips on each other's asses?!

P.I. (Dubbed)

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by FLgirl Posted Tue January 22, 2008 @ 4:00 PM

This definately sounds like a scam. I hope you did not provide the
information they asked for. There is no reason for Ebay to have your
SSN.

I would go the Ebay site- make sure it is the REAL site by typing in
the web address. Do not click any links in any emails. Check on the
status of your account that way. Read their help section for more info
on phishing scams and how to report it.

Hope that helps...

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by Ligonier1758 Posted Tue January 22, 2008 @ 3:10 PM

Sounds to me like a phishing scam. I use eBay often, so I went to
their website and found this:

Important: Beware of impostor email. If you received an email stating
your account was suspended, please confirm that the email was sent
from eBay by checking My Messages in My eBay.

If the email message you received is not located in My Messages,
proceed with caution. Some members have reported attempts to gain
access to their personal information through emails impersonating eBay
stating that their account has been or will be suspended. These
solicitations will often contain links to Web pages with a request to
sign-in and submit information. These emails are also known as "spoof"
or "phishing" email. Learn how to recognize spoof mails.

If your account has been used without your authorization - Please
review the Account Theft Help page for next steps.

Good luck!

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thanks for the feedback! by Dubbed Tue January 22, 2008 @ 9:58 PM


None of this sounds familiar, after 8 years of membership by donno Tue January 22, 2008 @ 10:51 PM


typos "Required" ,"especially" by donno Tue January 22, 2008 @ 11:05 PM


geez by Clear thoughts produce clear results Wed January 23, 2008 @ 2:41 AM

Indicting the Seller! How "very, very strange and (not) normal." by Dubbed Wed January 23, 2008 @ 12:25 PM

Good grief. by Dubbed Wed January 23, 2008 @ 12:52 PM


If you understand how Ebay works by donno Wed January 23, 2008 @ 1:30 PM




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