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by Cubjunkie Posted Sun April 27, 2008 @ 7:35 PM
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The most disgusting part of people like this crying racist at every turn is when there is real racism involved it lessens the validity of the cry.
Heck I just heard someone call a radio program about the election and gave a long reasoned argument why she was voting for Hillary but the host said "SORRY EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T SUPPORT OBAMA IS RACIST!"
I loved her comeback "WELL THEN EVERYONE NOT VOTING FOR HILLARY IS SEXIST AND IF YOU'RE ANTI MCCAIN YOU'RE AN AGIST!"
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by newfenoix Posted Thu April 24, 2008 @ 1:07 PM
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OMG!!!!!
Why does EVERYTHING have to be about RACE!!! Believe me, life is much more than your skin color. GET A LIFE!
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by Ruffino Posted Sun April 13, 2008 @ 9:14 PM
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Lighten up. You are part of the problem.
As for the reimbursement - no way.
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by mary jo Posted Fri April 11, 2008 @ 12:03 AM
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The only problem is that the cashier didnt know her crock pots from a deep fryer. Thats what she needs training for.
A lot of people use crock pots to cook chickens. Was there, by chance, a picture of a chicken on the box? Maybe thats what confused her.
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by MartiniDreams Posted Tue April 8, 2008 @ 12:04 PM
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I have to agree with the majority. It would appear that people are looking for insults to pounce on as "racist". I may get flamed for this but when it comes to the African American community they need to attack the source and remove it from their own culture first. You can't support the rap artists who use the "N" word, allow it's use among yourselves and then cry "racism" when someone outside of your culture simply repeats what has been fed to them through their ipods thinking it's acceptable.
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As do I...
by MartiniDreams Thu April 10, 2008 @ 7:46 PM
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by Shadowboxxx Posted Mon April 7, 2008 @ 12:09 PM
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Regardless of race, I think it is a blatant insult to accuse ANYONE of liking fried chicken. Imagine! Frying a chicken! How insulting!!!
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by Tom S. Posted Mon April 7, 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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There have been complaints on this site about cashiers being quiet while ringing up a purchase, and the customer deciding the cashier's failure to interact with her HAD to be racism because of the customer's race.
Next come the complaints that the cashier was friendly, but did not engage in small talk - which means the cashier HAD to be racist.
Then there are the complaints that a cashier counted the money out, and the customer deciding that too HAD to be as a racist statement that customer was trying to steal or was not smart enough due to her race to count the correct amount for herself.
Now, we have a cashier who tried to be friendly and chat with a customer about how a purchase might be used. Even though nothing more was said and no refusal of a sale or other problems happened with the transaction, this small talk HAD to be racism because the customer feels that any mention of something the customer thinks is a stereotype is racist.
I guess there is just no winning with some people. My opinion is that if a person wants to feel that the world is against them, they are going to find ways to justify their feelings. If people want to find racism and feel victimized, they are going to. That a remark might be taken more than one way is irrelevant as one of the ways might mean the person making it holds a stereotype in her head, so the remark HAD to be some form of racism.
In my opinion, it is this kind of thin-skinned, reactionist complaint that makes it harder for persons who truly suffer from racism to be taken seriously.
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by Evil N Posted Sat April 5, 2008 @ 8:38 PM
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Ahh...the race card again. Where people will twist ANYTHING that is said to them into something "racist."
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by YouAreKiddingMe Posted Sat April 5, 2008 @ 3:43 AM
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So much ignorance here.
"Everyone knows you can't cook fried chicken in a crock pot."
What rubbish. I own a crock pot that goes from 100oF up to 500oF. Guess what, you CAN cook fried chicken in it. Not all crock pots are slow cookers only.
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by Gino Posted Fri April 4, 2008 @ 11:43 PM
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I had a similar incident, only not so subtle.
I'm Italian, and I put lasagna noodles, ricotta cheese, mozzarella, crushed tomatoes, basil, peccorino romano cheese, ground meat,foil lasagna pans, and london broil that was on sale for 1.79 a pound on the belt at the supermarket.
The african-american cashier licked her lips and said "I know what you're having for dinner! tee hee tee hee!"
I said "Oh? Really? What am I having for dinner?"
She looked at me and giggled "Why, Lasagna, silly!"
Why is this African American woman allowed to jump to such a conclusion? Her job is to check out groceries, not to "guess who's making what".
She was dead wrong, and I have the reciepts and witnesses to prove she was mistaken. I was making corned beef and cabbage, the lasgana was for the next night. I laughed it off, but I had every right to make a federal case out of it.
Should I call "The Sons of Italy" and threaten a civil rights lawsuit? This was clearly a case of "Stereotyping" by "Ethnicity" like the "caucasian" woman at Linen's and Things.
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by jess111 Posted Fri April 4, 2008 @ 4:16 PM
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WOW-it's a ridiculous assumption that the cashier's comment was racist. Maybe the girl was in the mood for fried chicken, and mixed up a crock pot and a deep fryer.
It's not like she said anything derogatory to your husband-I feel to see how guessing someone eats or likes chicken is offensive. As far as stereotypes go, I would think that's a pretty innocuous one anyway. There are a heck of a lot of caucasians that like fried chicken-me included. And stereotypically, southerners eat fried chicken, regardless of race.
People need to chill out and stop looking for reasons to complain their feelings are hurt!
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by MelissaG Fri April 4, 2008 @ 10:05 PM
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by Ryman Posted Fri April 4, 2008 @ 11:16 AM
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Our company has provide numerous training sessions on diversity and such. About as useless as it gets. Has had no impact whatsoever.
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by Babaloo Posted Fri April 4, 2008 @ 10:55 AM
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Wow.
As an anti-racist advocate, I can tell you that this situation is more than unfortunate...for more than one reason.
First, it certainly sounded like a moronic comment from someone who doesn't understand the implications of racism, nor the insensitivity of a comment like that.
Second, I would have liked to hear that your husband asked her what she meant by that. I understand that an inflammatory comment such as that does not make one inspired to begin a dialogue, but honestly, it would have brought about some clarity straight away.
Third, why would he buy the crockpot?!!!
If you think that your money isn't appreciated...especially from a racist, why would you give them business?
In conclusion, I support your anger and frustration over the situation, but your husband did in fact make the purchase. I don't see why they such give you monetary compensation for something for this.
I do support the idea that management should require diversity and sensitivity training...and possibly use this as an example. You know, the cashier will be confronted, and they will most likely lie.
Since your husband did not ask for a manager and just went ahead with the purchase, it sends a signal that this behavior was acceptable, and therefore, there was no problem.
Racism is a well-documented, real issue. The only weapon against it is accountability...so if one finds themselves in a situation where there is suspected racism, call the person out...ask them what they meant....in some cases, you may be surprised that something was just a big misunderstanding...in other cases, you will expose them for the racist they are and they will have to be responsible for their actions.
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by Janell Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 7:39 PM
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Reminds me of my wedding day. Our old church leader handed my husband a gift certificate to Montgomery Inn (excellent rib place) and said, "I've never met a black guy who didn't like ribs!" He was Korean, and probably figured it was cool to joke like that with another man of color, although I would have loved to see his face if my husband replied, "All right, but don't come visit anytime soon. We've got a kitty, and I've never met a Korean who doesn't like cat!"
Anyway, ugly stereotypes WILL rear their heads at the darndest times. I, for one, empathize with you. Have you considered going back to the store to speak with the employee in question? Her response will tell you right away if, as some commenters have suggested, her remark was innocent (whereas, if she says, "Look, it was just a joke, don't be so sensitive," or "Hey, my brother-in-law is black, and I know for a fact y'all love some FRIED CHICKEN!!!" your complaint is legitimated). I definitely suggest speaking to management at the store level (this letter goes to corporate), but the threat of a lawsuit and a request for a free crockpot detracts from an otherwise legitimate complaint.
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by Brownlee1975 Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 7:32 PM
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Are you serious? Was this girl young? Maybe a teenager? My teenager thinks you can boil an egg in the microwave, I know, she tried it last week. Come on, don't play the race card because a young lady may not have known what a Crock Pot is. Did your husband ask her what she meant by the comment? I bet NOT. He probably looked at her in puzzlement and came home and told you the story, where you promptly decided it was racially charged. Jeez, get a life.
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by MelissaG Fri April 4, 2008 @ 10:09 PM
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i agree!
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AGE?
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by Anonymous A. Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 7:27 PM
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Your accusation is inexcusable. Like what others said,everyone is different and people have different views. You assume things, and take things the wrong way which is how you are..but that doesn't mean you should go expressing how you feel to other people, when there's almost %100 probability that they weren't being racist. I see nothing wrong with what she said.You wrongfully assumed, and took her comment the wrong way and that is unfair to her.How would you know if she happens to be hispanic?European?Muslim? People don't always look their race. How would you know if she grew up in a not so good neighborhood and dealt with hardships? You know nothing about her, you automatically assume she's a snobby, "racist caucasian". Think before you start preaching racist!
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by Peregrina Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 7:06 PM
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Okay, as a Southerner and a Texan, I've heard similar comments about fried chicken, grits, beer, rodeo and cowboys. It gets really old, really fast and I can see why the OP's husband would be upset, since I get snarky when I hear that stuff. Before anyone says it's not the same, some people do not like Southerners or Texans. I actually had someone tell me once that I didn't 'deserve' to be happy since my family was from the South.
That being said, there are ways to handle this crap that will work better than letters on a third party website. The place to handle it was when it happened.
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by Rhet C. Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 6:26 PM
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I think it's very easy to see what we want to see and hear what we want to hear. It's easy to create situations for ourselves that we can then use as comparisons to justify our perceptions. Perceptions are always wrong. They are our own fragmented fantasies played out to justify our anger about something, or our need to be right, or our need to win. It's a huge waste of time.
None of us, including yourself is exactly sure if the cashiers comment was meant to be racist or not because we know absolutely nothing about her past, her present and certainly not her future. That means we know nothing about what her comparitive perception is from her life in line with her comment to your husband. And then how that translates to you receiving $50.00 and a free crock pot is completely an insane request. You didn't dignify yourself with that comment at all. You could have left it alone before that comment and perhaps garnered more fans to your side of the story.
Whatever! It doesn't really matter. What matters is that we go around blaming each other for inadequacies that we may or may not control. Neither is right and neither is wrong.
Peace!
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by Disgruntled Retail Employee Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 5:32 PM
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As stated, the cashier said, "Mmmm, fried chicken tonight." All that makes me think is that she was really hungry or decided what she wanted to do for dinner. Screaming racism at every turn is degrading to legitimate issues. Is it going to get to the point no one can say anything without being accused of something?
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Screaming?
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by Beeracuda Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 5:02 PM
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I have to agree with a few other posters here. I truly believe she thought it was a deep fryer you were purchasing. After all, many are usually the same size, and look quite similar as well. I think the cashier was totally innocent, and was just trying to be friendly with small talk. After all, the first thing I think of when I think of a deep fryer IS fried chicken.
Now, if she would've said "hog mawls and chit'lins", then I think it would've been obvious what her angle was.
Let's look at this realistically though. Certainly there is plenty of racism around. However, I SERIOUSLY doubt that anyone working in retail would be so blatantly racist to a customer on purpose. People may be dumb, but they ain't stupid. Anyone with half a brain working retail knows that showing racism towards a customer is the fastest ticket to the unemployment line.
In any case, no, you do not deserve the item for free. That kind of gimme-grab really undermines the pain that people suffer through blatant racism. "Oh, racism was shown to the black man? Eh, just give him the crock pot for free, and everything's cool again"
See how bad that sounds?
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by Marty5223 Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 4:47 PM
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Let's see I am white ...I eat chicken???
AM I not suppose to.
Get a life and stop making something out of nothing!
You can't fry chicken in a crock pot.
My guess is she thought it was a deep fryer and this had nothing to do with your husbands race!
If she said something like oh...you not stealing this today...then you can complain!
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by Tom S. Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 4:39 PM
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Why just the other day, I ordered a turkey sandwich at a deli - and the counter person had the nerve to ask me, "Would you like mayonnaise on this, sir?" I am sure it was because I am Caucasian and she was thinking that meant I liked mayonnaise and should be called sir.
Then yesterday, a waiter at a sushi place brought chopsticks to my table while smiling. I now KNOW it had to have been because he was laughing at me and thought my race meant I could not use them and would eat with a fork.
I should have demanded both these employees be fired and that I get free stuff. From now on, I intend to be on the lookout for these racists.
And before anyone misunderstands me, the above is DRIPPING in sarcasm.
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Discrimination
by Disgruntled Retail Employee Mon April 7, 2008 @ 6:05 PM
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by Richard S. Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 3:15 PM
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First off, your husband should be writing this letter if it upset him so much.
Second, if he was offended by the comment, he should have spoken to the manager before leaving the store or called when he got home.
That being said, I do think the comment made by the cashier was sterotypical toward people of color and you have right to be contacting the management of Linen N Things. However I do not believe that entitles you to a free $50.00
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by Final Score: Boys-3, Girls-1 Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 3:11 PM
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BBQ Chicken...yes. In fact, it's the only thing I've ever made in a crock pot. Fried Chicken? That cashier has some 'splaining to do. Maybe she is dumb enough to think it was a deep fryer? Still sounds like she was trying to slip a stereotype in there, though.
You know what bugs me? Is those KFC commericals that have black people fighting over the chicken. The worst one is where mom calls home to see what kind of chicken everyone wants and their grabbing the phone from each other. I don't know how their marketing department got away with those. Yet the commercial fighting over the potatoes is a white family.
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Purples?
by MelissaG Fri April 4, 2008 @ 10:25 PM
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I'm a "purple"
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by Blackrack Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 2:51 PM
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Usually, I'm against people playing the race card. In this case, however, I do think this was a racist comment.
Do I think this justifies a lawsuit, however? No. You should have asked for a manager at the time of the incident.
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that Laurie's comment was far from thoughtful or even logical, (Who fries chicken in a crock pot?!) I don't understand how that should translate into some sort of compensation for you.
Is there some unwritten rule that says if someone screws up, you get something of value? Why is that? People screw up every day - they're human. Doesn't mean you benefit if you catch them messing up.
While it is a good thing that you brought Laurie's glaring error in judgement to their attention, let them deal with their own HR issues and don't think that you deserve to get something just because this clueless girl said something ignorant without thinking.
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Her comment was sterotypical, and rude. And as for the other comments made here, ignore them. Unless you have been the victim of sterotyping, and or racism you know NOTHING about the matter. And to downplay your husbands experience is wrong,and racially insensitive. I would love for all those who cry "race card pulling" to live a day in the life of a black man or woman. Maybe then they could open their eyes and see the bigger picture....then again........maybe not.
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by franese Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 1:00 PM
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You just proved the point that some people will do anything to get something for free.
What I find really sad about thsi letter is that there are real cases of racism, and to make an issue over this is beyond me.
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by All About the Branding Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 12:51 PM
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"the Caucasion cashier"
I wonder why HER race was important?
Suppose she were African-American. Would it change anything?
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by Lisa H. Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 12:33 PM
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I think you could be making too much of this. Sometimes comments are just made with no thought of race.
Some years back in college, I called a black man I worked with "boy", in the context of something like "Hey boy, how's your day going". I called most males that, and the fact that he was black wasn't a factor at all for me. He was simple George, the guy I worked with. He was taken aback, but listened to me and realized it was in NO way a racial comment, and we were cool.
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So your husband is insulted based on his race and he thinks he should get a free crockpot? Oh, how deep his convictions must run!
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oh for god's sake, this is ridiculous. i'm 50, i don't get upset when people call me a girl. it's the same thing. the presidential candidates have proven there is more sexism in this country than racism, even barack obama feels that way. so when is life fair? i doubt that she meant anything racial. but even if she did, you're always going to encounter ignorant people. sometimes a fish is just a fish, don't make it into something it's not. if you really think you need to make a statement, join a group that fights for racial equality, stop writing to whine about an individual. aim higher.
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It's sweet
by MelissaG Fri April 4, 2008 @ 10:18 PM
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by SusanB Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 12:05 PM
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You were not involved in this situation - - your husband was - - and if he was upset about what was said he should have written the complaint - - not you.
Furthermore, no matter what allegedly happened, he proceeded with the purchase of the crock-pot and as such there is no reason why he should be reimbursed.
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by Zan Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 11:58 AM
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I'm wondering if the cashier thought it WAS a deep fryer, hence the fried chicken remark. But I suppose it is possible she was being rude - in which case, I would have stopped dead in my tracks in the middle of what I was doing, stared at her and said "EXCUSE me?" Her reaction would have said it all. If she stammered and blushed and looked away (or apologized), odds are she was making a crass joke. If she looked confused, she probably didn't mean any harm.
Either way, you're not entitled to a free crock pot.
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I'm not sure if she was intentionally being malicious, or just being a ding-dong (haha, stealing that from leanne). Perhaps she thought she was being funny or cute. Of course, she should be more careful about it - you never know how "Humor" like that is going to come across to strangers (especially at work!)
I think its pushing it, expecting reimbursment for something that you bought, even AFTER the comment was made. You certainly are within your rights not to shop there if she was being offensive. But adding that demand it makes the letter feel more like an attempt to get a free crockpot. Yes, I do agree that the employee needs to be spoken to about it.
Diversity training is something that is more common in companies that deal with customer service, and its actually pretty helpful, IMO. I just went to a diversity workshop thingy for my company a few months ago and it does bring up some things that we don't usually think about.
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You're all going to jump on me for this so let me prepare...
Ok I'm ready.
RELAX! Most likely the cashier thought that your hubby was purchasing a deep fryer, and some people use that to make fried chicken. Maybe she was an idiot and didn't know that you cant fry in a crock pot. Sometimes it takes a bigger man to excuse people of their short comings. A rush to judgement and calling out the mob with lit torches and pitch forks doesn't help make things better.
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by momof6 Thu April 3, 2008 @ 11:56 AM
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by ~Fiナ-la-ネea~ Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 11:07 AM
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My hubby is Puerto Rican and he LOVES fried chicken. I just think this gal was being a ding dong and didn't know her appliances well and just screwed up the conversation.
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ummmm...I dunno...I'm kinda torn here...maybe she didn't realize...I mean if I was working at a store and a person of Hassidic Jewish origin came to my counter, I would'nt say "find any bargains?" Its the same exact thing...they might take it the wrong way.
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As a Jew...
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uhh
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