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by Anonymous A. Posted Thu May 29, 2008 @ 4:34 AM
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its not Target's fault that the gift buyer didnt give you the reciept,so why make it their problem?
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Many, many stores, including Target, provide a "gift receipt" with any purchase that may be a gift. This way, the receiver does not know the dollar amount on the gift they need to return/exchange. I'm not actually sure why this is so because the curious person can just go look on the rack and find out how cheap, er, I mean, how much the giver spent.
I supposed that in your proper raising that included courses in manners, that tact was left out. There is a tactful way to request a receipt from someone for a gift that was given.
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LOL
by Donno Mon May 26, 2008 @ 12:16 AM
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by stuckinretail Posted Wed May 21, 2008 @ 6:10 AM
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So, since you don't have a gift receipt, how do you know that the gift actually came from Target? You never specified if you asked the gift giver if the gift was purchased from Target or if the item is something that is exclusively sold at Target. I have tons of customers that come in my store without a receipt and surprise - they are trying to return stuff that wasn't actually purchased at my store.
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Karen, judging by the many complaints I see where gift recipients weren't given a gift receipt, it's safe to assume that plenty of Target customers don't have any 'manners'.
"hey i may want to return this so thanks but give me the receipt because I do not appreciate or value the time you took to select the gift."
Do you even see the irony in what you said here compared to the rest of your letter?
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by Buddy Posted Sun May 18, 2008 @ 5:45 PM
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Good news to Target employees! You have seen Karen M. for the last time!!!!
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by Desert Mom Posted Sun May 18, 2008 @ 2:58 AM
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Duly noted is right on. While I don't have a job in retail, everyone knows how ugly retail customers can be, and you are today's poster child. Your definition of "manners" clearly means "Give me what I want or I will ruin you!".
A more civilized response might have said "I'm sorry, I didn't understand your policy. Thanks so much for your time."
If I were your gift giver, you would never receive another gift. Selfish!
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by T. C. Posted Thu May 15, 2008 @ 10:07 PM
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Karen I do not believe you are teaching your son incorrectly and I applaud you for teaching him to be well mannered. I understand you are not saying the gift doesn't matter, that to have multiple of one item is unneccesarry. The people that need to be taught something is the givers of the gifts. Target has a very restrictive policy due to past problems. When people buy gifts this day and age they should understand to get a gift reciept because of the possibility of multiplication. If I gave someone a gift that 5 others gave them I would want them to trade it out. Face it some people just throw something in the cart and don't think much on the person they are getting it for. Sorry that you feel attacked but most on here are good people and try to give advice and constructive criticism.
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by April S. Posted Thu May 15, 2008 @ 7:32 PM
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This is an old topic around here Karen. You will see numerous other shared letters written to Target that complain about this. My suggestion is to always make mention of how much you hate Target whenever anyone asks for gift recommendations for your child. I always do. And have since to receive any gifts from there anymore. The only thing that will make Target stop this practice is by losing money to lost customers. They are figuring they are losing less because they are stopping the occasional theif. But in the long run, they lose more in customers.
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by Peregrina Posted Thu May 15, 2008 @ 4:36 PM
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I think it's rude to return gifts, Karen, so I don't think we are going to see eye to eye on this one. Give it to charity or to someone you know will use it, but to return it and get something 'better' always struck me as rude in the extreme and greedy to boot.
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by p d. Posted Thu May 15, 2008 @ 4:25 PM
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" was raised to actually have MANNERS and politely thank a gift giver for a gift no matter what it is. Apparently Target does not appreciate this in their customers."
That's not the problem. The problem is how many people steal then go in to do a return, obviously without a receipt.
I believe you but how are they to know it wasn't stolen? That's why they have the policies they do.
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by Chelsea S. Posted Thu May 15, 2008 @ 2:50 PM
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Wow i am new here but surprised at the attack tone in the posts below. I have to say I AGREE with the original post. I had almost the identical situation happen when i had baby gifts that were bought off of a gift registry.
I had actually gotten duplicates of something that on the registry i had listed as only wanting one (and on the printout from Target they could clearly see that i had gotten three of the thing). There was no gift receipt on any of the three duplicate gifts- yes it is the 21st century and NO I can say with certainty with two stepkids kids who have birthday parties every yeat that the MAJORITY of gift givers do not provide gift reciepts.
In this case I had gotten the gifts from people that i didn't know that well and as someone points out below- yes i would feel uncomfortable going to that person and indicating that i wanted to return their gift. My parents raised me to have manners too.
I took the 2 extra duplicates in an tried to exchange them for other things on the registry and was told by a very rude customer service person that without a gift receipt i was out of luck.
I was not trying to scam Target. They had proof from the registry print out that the items were purchases there. There was nothing wrong with them and the customer service person still treated me like I was trash. I guess by the overwhelming response below we should all assume that everyone is out there trying to scam something.
Targets return policies in general do not put their customer's "first"- let alone treat them as if they are customers. By the treatement I recieved I think they train them to make anyone trying to return something feel like they are 1" tall.
Also- on the topic of gifts for kids- have you ever seen kids rip into gifts at a birthday party?? If there are gift receipts on things quite often they get ripped off in the process. I try to include them in cards.
I do still shop at Target- I simply think the shopping experience is more pleasant. But lord knows if I am at all hesitant on something I will wait to buy it until I am sure. I never want to experience their horrible "customer" service counter if at all possible.
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this is undoubtedly the most CREATIVE excuse I've seen for getting around this rule. BRAVO!
However, as Im sure others have mentioned (and has been covered on this site ad nauseum) this is not a manners thing. This is a fraud thing. How many people do you think have walked into Target, looking like perfectly upstanding citizens like yourself, and pulled this same kind of line at Guest Service in an attempt to get back cash or merchandise on something that is actually stolen?
Believe it or not, it happens FREQUENTLY (I know, I worked in Guest Service)
The true statement here is not that it is impolite to ask for a gift receipt. Its that you don't want to get caught by the gift giver returning their gift.
But don't you think they'd WANT to know that your son already had this? Perhaps it will encourage them to check with you or give him something a little more flexible, liked a gift card, in the future.
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by calm Posted Thu May 15, 2008 @ 6:53 AM
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Sometimes doing the right thing costs you something. And the right thing is to do it anyway.
If your standards for your son include politely thanking a gift giver for a gift no matter what it is, that's great. It was certainly included in my parents' standards for me.
But the price of pretending that what you got was exactly what you wanted is that sometimes you don't actually get exactly what you want. In those cases you act grateful for what you got, you feel grateful that someone cared enough to try to please you, and you move on.
If you only expect your son to display manners when he can do it while still getting exactly what he wants, then you are teaching him not to have manners at all. If you expect major corporations to adopt policies that hurt them just to cover for the fact that your boy doesn't have any manners, then you are teaching him that the rest of the world should accommodate his sense of entitlement. I don't think your son will be well-served by these lessons, especially because that sort of attitude gets a lot less forgivable as he gets older.
In fact, by the time he's old enough to write nasty letters to stores blaming them for putting loss prevention ahead of his entitlement to exactly what he wants, it's going to come across as pretty appalling and it will affect what people think of him.
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Karen...
by All About the Branding Thu May 15, 2008 @ 3:45 PM
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by Blackrack Posted Thu May 15, 2008 @ 6:32 AM
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I was raised to believe that returning a gift in the first place was bad manners. If I ever got a double of a toy, I usually gave it to a Toys for Tots program.
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by YouAreKiddingMe Posted Thu May 15, 2008 @ 1:18 AM
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So you're saying you want Target to encourage people to shoplift, return the item and get credit for it? That's what would occur. That's why they want a receipt.
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by Sea W. Posted Thu May 15, 2008 @ 12:22 AM
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I'm confused. If you don't have the gift receipt, how do you know it was from Target?
In any case, expecting stores to loose money by accepting anything and everything without some proof that it came from that store is a bit much. Higher prices for everyone if they do.
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I find this OP's surprise that she needs a receipt to return an item quite naive. If this is her first experience, then she's had quite a good run of gift giving occasions!
In my family, gift (or original) receipts are either included with most gifts or graciously offered. I know that I can ask my mom for a gift receipt if she bought me pajamas, but I also know to not ask for a receipt if she bought me something special and I really don't care for it. That's when I just suck it up.
And if I generously spend my hard-earned money on other people's children (I have no kids), I damn sure want it to go to something they want or need! I either ask pointed questions of the moms (or the kids), or I put a lot of thought and effort into that child and get him something I think (and hope) s/he'll love.
And I tape the receipt to the gift or card, every time.
Society's moving along, folks. Come join the rest of us into the 21st century.
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by LB06 Posted Wed May 14, 2008 @ 7:23 PM
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This doesn't really have anything to do with manners. Target has a policy and you have to follow it. Simple. I don't see why you can't just ask the gift giver for the gift reciept. What are they going to do, break your legs for asking?
Also, love the line about "shopping elsewhere". You didn't even buy the product to begin with.
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by Donno Posted Wed May 14, 2008 @ 7:06 PM
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Target has dealt with a lot of customers who are idiots, have no manners (have you been in public recently?) and downright thieves. Thus, they had to develop a strict policy that is *widely* advertised. They also print gift receipts automatically, so there is no excuse for that either.
If you have something that was a gift, ebay it. it you bought it, then you are the one responsible. I didn't read your letter - I didn't have to. The title is enough to know what it contains.
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by ChrisMcD Posted Wed May 14, 2008 @ 6:45 PM
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Since you really don't want to ask the giver for the receipt and Target has made it clear that they will not take it back with out a receipt, why don't you teach your son a valuable lesson and donate the toy to a children's hospital or a homeless shelter. Since it's obvious the toy will not be used by your son, please donate it to someone who would love to use it.
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by Dana W. Posted Wed May 14, 2008 @ 5:50 PM
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You are correct that the gift giver should give a gift receipt, this is polite and taking into consideration that you do not want the recipient to be put into an uncomfortable situation.
But if they DONT include it, it IS considered rude to ask for one.
The problem with all of this is the person was trying to simply exchange an item for another one and Target's policy does not allow you to do this unless you go back to the person who originally gave it to you and say "i want to return your gift." That IS rude, regardless of the reason.
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::cue broken record:: It says on every Target receipt something like "is this purchase a gift? be sure to include the gift receipt for easy returns" So it's your friend or family who failed to read that and did not include the receipt. Who lacks the manners now?
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by All About the Branding Posted Wed May 14, 2008 @ 4:27 PM
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You have manners. Some people don't. They steal. They try to return things that were purchased elsewhere (at a lower cost) in order to get back extra cash. Some people try to return things years after they were purchased.
You have manners. But, what you were looking for isn't about manners. Is it? It's about you being able to have your son have a gift that works better for him (i.e., isn't a duplicate). I'd don't blame for you for the "want." However, I ask that you realize that what you're looking for has everything to do with money (or "stuff") and little to do with manners.
Good manners, of course, would say that your son would cherish the gift, even if it were a duplicate. That he's keep it as a memento of the gift giver. That the thought is what counts, not that he actually have something he can use.
But this isn't about that. It's about receiving a gift, finding its a duplicate, and wanting him to have something that he can actually use. I don't blame you for wanting that.
That said, if you don't like the fact that Target keeps its prices low by having policies like this, then please... do not shop there again. Write them a letter (as you have) telling them that you don't like their policies.
But don't pretend it's about manners. It's about business, about money, about stuff. Don't be ashamed to say that. Because Target, as a business, isn't ashamed of the fact that they want money. Your money. Which, it sounds, they've lost.
Oh, and good for you in giving the gift to charity. I don't know how old your son is (or what you family's financial situation is), but I think you've given him a great gift: the gift of helping others. I, in fact, do this with my kids. Hopefully, as they grow older, they will keep this up.
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by Dana M. Posted Wed May 14, 2008 @ 4:21 PM
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Kudos to you Karen- you shouldn't have to ask people for gift reciepts. I think Targets return policy stinks and the responses below miss the point. It shouldn't matter whether or not the kid had the gift or not- what if you simply didn't like it. The point was you were trying to exchange the item for something else and the forum here went on the attack.
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by Dana W. Posted Wed May 14, 2008 @ 3:02 PM
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I agree completely- how rude to ask people for gift reciepts. We have become so commercial these days and the manners of being gracious and thankful for gifts whatever they are is lost.
I had a similar experience recently at Target when my receipt was faded and "code" at the bottom was illegible. They could see the date (the reciept had NOT "expired" and the item and amount were clearly legible but the extremely rude person at the Target customer service counter still treated me like a criminal and would not let me return the item.
Target needs to learn who the CUSTOMER in "customer service" is. I, like you, will take my purchases elsewhere.
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It's not that you want to return it, it's that your child already has it. Any normal person would not be offended if your child already has the gift. They would want your child to have a gift they can actually use.
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