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Disney Cruise Nightmare
Posted Sun June 15, 2008 12:00 pm, by Jeanine S. written to Walt Disney Cruise Line
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We almost had to cancel this trip due to some health concerns. My doctors encouraged the trip. I wanted this to be a trip for the whole family to remember just in case it was our last. We chose Disney for one reason and one reason only, for the kids to have a great time and for my husband and I to have alone time while they were in the kids club.
The first night we all were very excited. My husband and I dropped the kids off and we were like giggling teenagers. We went to the Wave lounge and were going to participate in the match your mate game when we were paged by the daycare. When we arrived I asked my daughter why she had paged us and she said she just wanted to know when we were coming to get her. Since our night was already interrupted and it was 10pm we just cut the night short and took the kids home.
The second night my 3 yr old screamed and didn't want to go in. Not one person helped us ease his fears. My husband stayed with him awhile till he calmed down. I expected a counselor to give us assistance. A while later my daughter paged us to come get her and she just wanted to give us a picture. Our night was interrupted again and called it an early night. It was very frustrating that the counselors were so quick to get rid of the kids instead of encouraging them to stay and have fun.
By third day we went to Nassau and left the kids on the ship. I didn't feel confortable being away from the ship for too long. My husband stay on the island and I figured I can get some alone time and book a massage at the spa. I checked on the kids when I returned to find my daughter in tears in the bathroom stall. She went to the bathroom and didn't quite get her underwear down all the way and got them wet. She was mortified, she had to take her shorts off and was naked from the waist down. There was a female counselor outside the stall and a male counselor in the bathroom holding her dirty clothes. She was very embarassed that a man was in the bathroom when she wasn't fully dressed. Of all the times I have gotten paged, I wasn't paged for this. I was very annoyed that they didn't even try to page me.
Later that night my 2 older kids went into the daycare and my little one wanted no part of it so I didn't force him to go. When I picked up my kids a little later they both came out with another child FESES on them. On their clothes, shoes and skin. Apparently there was 2-3 potty accidents at the same time. One was on the slide which both of my kids slid into. I was so horrified by the situation I could not send my children back. There were people from 17 different countries on the boat and God knows what could of happened.
The next day I had to take my 3 yr old to the medic for an ear infection and double pink eye which he had to of gotten from the daycare. My husband and I had reservations to dine alone without the kids that night and had to cancel due to the fact we could not utilize the daycare. The phones were out that entire day and when I finally could get to the spa they only had a 1/2 massage available. It was very inconvient that day the phones were out in the ship. I waited all day to speak to someone who was calling me in my room for the fact that my children came home with FESES on them.
The whole experience was a nightmare and I will never do it again. We spent a lot of money and could of went on any cruise line and we choose Disney cause we thought they were the most kid friendly. I just hope my health concerns allow my family and I to vacation again cause I would hate for this trip to be the last they remember taking with me!!!
Refund our trip.
I would also like them to improve their system in the daycare. I think there should be certain counselors assigned to your kids. It was like a free for all in there. There also should be a seperate room for the kids who need to nap or sleep without other kids running around them. It is great that you have mats but why not have a seperate room to put them in. I was stuck in the room while my son took a nap for 2 hours a day. If you had a quiet room where the kids could watch a movie on a mat and fall asleep, it would be very helpful for the parents.
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by Alexander M. Posted Fri March 15, 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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Do not blame it on Disney at least they tried there best to help and you need to look at the positive. Disney would probably be better than Carnival or Royal Caribbean. Carnival has had enough stuff happen to there cruise ships and on the Disney Cruise nothing broke down or anything it was all your family and give Disney another chance. Royal Caribbean has had ship sink and Disney has been around for 12 years and have had no ship problems.
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by Rochelle L. Posted Tue February 14, 2012 @ 7:56 AM
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Wow, if this isn't one to beware of!!! This Mummy obviously has a brat and wants a refund for her trip !!!!
This is totally not the experience my 100's of clients have on the Disney ships !!!
READ BETWEEN THE LINES !!!
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by julie p. Posted Wed January 26, 2011 @ 1:22 PM
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Don't ever cruise with disney
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by Ashley C. Posted Mon August 23, 2010 @ 9:26 PM
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Disney Cruise Line - or anyone else for that matter - isn't going to take you seriously if you don't even know how to spell "feces."
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Disney usually does a really great job of providing over-the-top service. Moreso than anyone else, Disney also understands the importance of customer service recovery during the experience. This entire scenario is so very un-Disney that I can understand your frustration. I wonder if someone (of importance) on the cruise really understood how bad you were feeling about the experience. The write up seems to suggest (at least to me) that you really didn't stop to talk to anyone -- that you just suffered in silence. While I understand not rocking the boat, you sometimes have to speak up in order to get things fixed in mid-stream, and not assume folks understand they are in a service failure situation.
I'd give them a call as well as waiting for the letter to filter through. I know that they'd want to hear about the experience. Disney values its reputation a lot.
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by kc7597 Posted Mon July 7, 2008 @ 8:35 AM
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You must be one of those moms who has children just because it is the thing to do, not because you really want them. You know, the kind who dresses them up, parades them around in front of family and friends and then drops them off at day care every chance you get. REALITY CHECK...Most day cares are not that clean and children who attend day care all the time are sick more often because of that. I am a pediatric nurse and see it all the time. While the "feces" incident was disgusting, things like that happen sometimes. I don't even understand why you chose the Disney cruise. Why didn't you just choose a more adult themed cruise and leave the kids at home with a relative if you wanted a "relaxing" vacation. I can't imagine leaving my children with strangers especially when the children don't want to go. I choose vacations that are kid friendly because I want the kids to have a good time, not me. We just returned from Myrtle Beach for our wedding anniversary where we did Magiquest, mini golfed, Hard Rock Park kiddie rides, the water park, ate at cheesy places like Planet Hollywood, Nascar Cafe, and Hard Rock, and made sandcastles at the beach. While that may not sound like a fun vacation to you because it all involved the children---we had a blast because we were together as a family and the smiles on the kids faces were priceless. We had meltdowns and sibling rivalry, dirty hands and sticky fingers, complaining and crying, but at least their mom was there to experience it all and make everything right. Welcome to motherhood, where life isn't always peaches and cream, and vacations will never again be relaxing BUT will be fun (if done with the kids in mind).
Enjoy your children while they are young because before you know it, you will be the one that they will be pushing aside because you aren't "cool" enough to hang out with. Wait..you may be actually looking forward to that day so that you can "relax" with you husband for the rest of your life.
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by Celleri k. Posted Mon July 7, 2008 @ 6:24 AM
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I've got to ask.. when your daughter was crying and screaming that she didn't want to go back to the daycare, did you ask her why she didn't want to go? And why did you make her go if she was having that bad a reaction? Isn't that the first warning sign that a kid has been abused/molested...?
In any case, that's terrible. Rather than asking for them to refund your trip (because that's just going to make it sound like you want money; as a general rule, the best way to get a refund is to never say the word "refund" at all. People are a lot more willing to help someone who isn't obviously after a few bucks) you should find out who you need to contact about the day care center on that particular cruise ship, and alert them to the problem. If you have to, call the health department, I'm sure they'd be thrilled to know that Disney allows its guests to wallow in filth.
I don't care how difficult a day care job is. Having feces splattered all over a playground and then continuing to let children play on it is unacceptable.
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by Celleri k. Mon July 7, 2008 @ 8:30 AM
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by Jeanine S. Mon July 7, 2008 @ 6:11 PM
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by Abby C. Posted Fri July 4, 2008 @ 2:05 AM
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We just returned from a trip on the Disney cruise line. Yes, it was expensive, but we knew going into it it was because of the "Disney" brand name, not so much for the childcare. I too had high hopes of my chiildren enjoying the clubs. As I had heard of many parents saying how they rarely saw their kids while on the ship or better, their kids having so much fun, they never wanted to leave the clubs when the parents came calling for them. So, with that being said, we sailed away with Mickey. The first night my daughter was sea-sick. No worries, her and I stayed in the stateroom so she can rest. My husband took our other daughter out to the restaurant (the one I wanted to dine in more than any other) and they both had a "fun" time. I ordered room service and then layed in bed and held my daughter as she sipped a Sprite. I was not the least bothered nor had I any resentment toward her. As she apologized for the inconvenience I told her I wanted to be no where else and I meant it. It took our kids three days before they even wandered into a club. Before then, we did not force the issue. Instead, as a family, went to the movies, saw the musicals, played family bingo, swam, ate tons of ice cream, played ping pong, played in the arcade, napped and had breakfast, lunch and dinner together. They were many more family activies we would have loved to participate in but there just wasn't enough time. When in Mexico, we introduced them to the beautiful clear blue beaches and shared local cuisine with them. Back onboard and the girls still hesitant, we finally got them in a club, just so they can try some of the activities they offered which they did enjoy. From what we witnessed, the counselors were friendly, energetic (considering they work long hours. The clubs are open from either 6 or 7 AM till 12 midnight) and plenty of them around. These people work VERY hard trying to get all the kids to have fun. And trust me, they were many undisciplined children with rude mouths. I stayed to watch my girls make flubber and I was losing my patience and I wasn't the one having to deal with them. While, our vacation wasn't what I have envisioned either, our family had a great time. We wanted a family vacation and that is what we got. I had hoped that my kids would take full advantage of all the kid programs, but that didn't happen. But is that Disney's fault? I am sorry that your children did have feces on them, I would have been upset too. But as one blogger said, things like that happen in daycare. Also, I am sure that they did all they could to properly handle the situation. Proper sanitation is absolutely their number one concern as it should be. Especially because of the many confined spaces and proximity to everyone. They had someone physically providing everyone with either hand sanitzer or a wipe everytime we came back onto the ship and at each every food entrance. Also every child entering the clubs was given a squirt of soap on their hands and they had to go to the bathroom and wash their hands before they could do anything else. We came down to play computer games with our girls and they gave us a wipe upon entry too. I would have not been happy with a male in the rest room either but I can't explain that. And I think the reason why you didn't get a page was because it sounds as if you happend upon them pretty close to the time the accident happened and they may not have had a chance yet. I mean, honestly how long do you think he was standing there holding her soiled clothes? These aren't dumb people and I am 100% sure that wasn't the first time it ever happened. So what if they paged you because your daughter wanted to show you a picture, you being there probably gave your daughter confidence that you would come if she needed you, which you did, and I hope that she didn't take your resentment for the counselors as resentment toward her. Instead of calling it a night, you should have praised her picture and told her mommy and daddy were going out to dinner and you would see her soon. Also, they do have a place for your child to nap, just right where he did. Afterall, they are YOUR children. If you wanted to get out, where was your husband? Mine stayed with the kids so I could do yoga, attend the cooking demonstrations and an art auction. I did the same for him while he worked out, caught up on some work in the adult coffee lounge and slept. We also did find some quite time together, but when our kids wanted us we worked it out. I do not think that you have the right to ask for a refund. It may not have been what you had hoped but sometime things don't work out but you make the most of it. Judging the way you doctors reacted to you going on vacation, I also, think you are the type of person who has the poor me attitude probably most of the time, maybe even before you were sick. I hope that you can step back and take these blogs as constructive criticism. I truly hope that you get well soon. In the meantime, try to make the most of every day. Whether its what you expected or not.
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by Sarah C. Fri May 24, 2013 @ 9:26 AM
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by Anne B. Posted Wed July 2, 2008 @ 6:32 PM
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Hi:
I hope you feel better as soon as is possible.
Sounds to me as though the purpose of your cruise wasn't clear, even to you.
- You took the children with you and have indicated you wanted to have a vacation all together, but you left the children in daycare pretty often. You're either going to be together or you're not. Mostly you have complained about the time you wanted to NOT be all together and your alone time was interruped.
- If you wanted rest and relaxation, why was being in the state room with your napping child a problem? Seems as though it would have been a great time for you to rest too.
Disney is a really quality organization, regardless of the experience we choose (cruise, parks, movies, live entertainment, etc.) It sounds as though you wanted the best of all worlds in a single trip.
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by Jeanine S. Fri August 1, 2008 @ 5:20 PM
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That is the worst travel story I've heard. And sadly, the worst part is it's true. I hope you were able to contact someone about that and get your refund.
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First of all, I am so sorry to hear about your illness. I lost my mother when I was just 15 and I hope that you can have more time with your children.
I totally understand where you are coming from here. I cannot believe all the people that are saying such negative things. I agree with you that there should have been more supervision in the disney club. I use to work daycare, and we would have 20 two year olds to each "teacher" [ totally out of regs, but we were sooooo understaffed ] and could keep them better organized. TWO YEAR OLDS!! They should have different counselors providing activities such as a coloring table, maybe a movie going, play-doh, painting, etc. If they were to have organized activities, it wouldn't be complete chaios.
I agree that the children should not be able to page a parent for any reason. The whole purpose of having them in the club is knowing they are being taken care of while you and your significant other are out enjoying dinner. I am a mom also, and understand that yes, sometimes your child will miss you but that is no reason to be paged. Being that I also use to work for a daycare I know that you can usually very easily occupy the child with a change of activity.
I cannot believe that they did not call you when she had her accident. Perhaps they had just gotten her in there? Or maybe they were afraid you would complain about them and thought it to be better to just get her cleaned up and play it down as no big deal. Either way, if they can page you to see her picture, or just say hi, I would DEFINATELY be upset that they would not page for this. That is just ridiculous...
As for the all ignorant people that are bashing you for putting your children in the club and accusing them of "ruining" your trip, I apologize. There is nothing wrong with taking a couple hours for you and your spouse to be together. That is the whole idea behind a cruise like this. I understand that you knowing that you are ill and not knowing how much time you have, its just as important to spend time with your spouse alone as it is to spend time with the whole family.
Do not listen to these people who obviously cannot read a blog and understand your point of view.
I'm sorry you had such issues with this cruise and hope that you can get more time to enjoy with your family, but just remember this, its the little things they will remember. I remember my mom putting on the radio and dancing silly around the kitchen while cooking dinner, or going and getting ice cream with her, more than any vacation we ever took. :)
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Thank you
by ♪♪Venice♪♪ Sat June 21, 2008 @ 9:06 PM
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by ♪♪Venice♪♪ Sun June 22, 2008 @ 5:01 PM
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by Jeanine S. Sun June 22, 2008 @ 5:09 PM
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by ♪♪Venice♪♪ Sun June 22, 2008 @ 5:16 PM
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by Jeanine S. Sun June 22, 2008 @ 5:28 PM
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by ♪♪Venice♪♪ Posted Sat June 21, 2008 @ 3:57 PM
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I read the comments you recently posted and just wanted to thank you for clearing up some of the misconceptions of your complaint. I hope you at least receive a response from Disney acknowledging your poor experience on the cruise. I also hope your letter alerts other parents to the reality of daycare on the ship, as I think Disney's promotion is a bit misleading.
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by lovescats Posted Wed June 18, 2008 @ 9:53 PM
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I can't get over the fact that the OP's child was still in the daycare center at 10pm. This isn't like home where the parents go out for an evening leaving the kids with a sitter in their own home where they feel safe. This is leaving your kids with strangers in a strange environment at a late hour. I feel sorry for the poor kid.
And the three year old was simply acting like a three year. The kid was probably confused so he wanted his parents close by. I don't think it was the responsibility of the day care people to convince the child he should stay with them.
It appears the OP was hoping for a vacation with hubby depending upon dumping her responsibilities i.e her kids on the cruise line. I'm sure if her 3 year old was taken to a room and put on a mat to nap as she suggests, he probably would have screamed bloody murder.
Next time if she is still able to take a vacation, she needs to leave the kids at home with a trusted sitter or bring along her own nanny if she wants to behave like she is unencumbered by her children.
A refund? I don't think so.
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by Jeanine S. Fri June 20, 2008 @ 11:38 PM
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I don't think you should get a refund. That's unreasonable.
We have been debating if we should take a Disney Cruisein lieu of Christmas. Mostly we come to the conclusion of waiting until the kids are older, like older teenage years and then let them take a friend, use the buddy system. That way my hub and I can take the break we need and they are responsible for themselves.
I agree that there should only be a certain number of kids allowed and they should have a personal counselor. They would know by the bookings how many! They should also schedule times for the children to be in there.
As for the nap, you know your child more than anyone else, how could they know your child's habits after a day or two? You should still be a parent, even on a cruise, no matter what they offer.
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by BarbaraT Posted Tue June 17, 2008 @ 2:09 AM
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While you may have some valid complaints in your letter, asking for a refund for your entire trip is absolutely ridiculous.
I have taken my children on a Disney cruise. The Kids Clubs, while certainly a step above *many* childcare programs I've seen, are still subject to the same sorts of problems that any other childcare program may have.
Such as: children taking time to adjust to the setting, children missing their parents and accidents.
Are you really upset that your daughter - left in a new environment with childcare providers she just met - missed you and wanted to see you? Come now. I would be heartbroken if my child wanted to see me and was told no by a childcare provider.
The staff paged you when your children requested you. I really can't consider that a bad thing. It's not as if you had to leave work or drive hundreds of miles; you were a short distance away on another part of the ship.
Maybe, as others have suggested, they didn't page you over the bathroom incident because you were so annoyed at having been paged previously.
Yes, it is a concern that your children came in contact with FECES (not feses). That is something that should have been addressed immediately with the childcare staff.
As to the problem with the phones - again you were on a contained, relatively small area. You can WALK over and TALK IN PERSON in a matter of minutes. Yes, it was an inconvenience, but hardly one worth a free cruise.
As to your other suggestions - good Lord. Individual counselors assigned to each child, an entire separate room for naps...now how is Disney supposed to pay for all that if they need to fork over refunds to everyone who suffered the inconvenience of 1/2 a massage?
Finally, I have to say that I am completely appalled at your complaint that you were "stuck" in your room during your son's nap. YES, I agree that Disney cruises are family friendly and certainly there is nothing wrong with parents spending some time alone together, but for pity's sake, couldn't you sit on your balcony and read a magazine while your toddler took what was probably a much-needed nap?
Look, I am a mom. I know - we give up everything for our kids. We are the ones making sure everyone else is having fun which means we don't always have a lot of fun ourselves. It gets better as they get older. But your youngest is THREE. Don't expect an adult vacation with a three year old in tow. Not even from Disney. That's just completely unrealistic.
Disney offers a lot of family-friendly entertainment, but not every kid is going to react positively to what they have to offer.
It sounds to me like you made all your vacation plans contingent on your kids being in the clubs and enjoying them and when that didn't happen, you just couldn't find a way to make the best of it.
Not Disney's fault. Not worth a refund.
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by Jeanine S. Sun June 22, 2008 @ 10:02 AM
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by Mel2007 Posted Mon June 16, 2008 @ 11:03 PM
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Sounds to me like you wanted a babysitter so you and hubby could go have fun. If your going on a cruise that is "kid friendly" usually that means its for your whole family that is where "kids friendly" comes in. If you want a cruise where you and hubby wanted your "time alone" go on a "adult type" cruise.
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by Cherry O. Posted Mon June 16, 2008 @ 7:43 PM
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Oh please. If your daughter had been forbidden to page you and had been upset, you would have thrown a fit, too!! It's not Disney's responsibility to /prevent/ your child from contacting you, and a child young enough to page you for those reasons sounds to me like a child young enough to reasonably be more dependent upon you.
It can be horrible, even for older children, to suddenly have to adapt to a group childcare environment, especially past their bedtimes or for unknown periods of time, and the only "anchor" these kids had to familiar people or surroundings was to page their parents. I can't believe you are upset that they used that opportunity to enhance their feeling of security.
If alone time is very important to you on a vacation, consider inviting a relative who would be willing to take on some childcare duties, or hiring a childcare provider. Your kids love and need individual attention; just because they are on a cruise ship (or, from their perspective, in hugely unfamiliar surroundings) does not take away that need.
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by Jeanine S. Sun June 22, 2008 @ 3:07 PM
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by Jeanine S. Sun June 22, 2008 @ 8:58 PM
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by calm Posted Mon June 16, 2008 @ 4:41 PM
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It really sounds to me as if this is the sort of thing that can happen when you have a bunch of kids who are completely off all their schedules and routines (I'm guessing that your kids aren't ordinarily in an unfamiliar group daycare situation most nights at 10, and I suspect that a lot of other families were on vacation schedules as well) and who are almost all strangers to one another, and a bunch of caregivers with no established relationship to any of the kids (which no doubt contributed to their not knowing when you would want to be paged or how you would like them to respond to a child with separation anxiety).
Even the incident with the feces -- if 3 kids had accidents all at the same time and at least one of them was overflowing his or her diaper I can imagine that the amount of supervision available for every child in the room who had not just had an accident decreased very quickly (note that when your daughter had her accident they had 2 people responding to 1 accident that was contained in the bathroom) -- seems to me like one of those really unpleasant things that nonetheless is sometimes just part of life.
In other words, while you have my sympathies, and while I hope that at the end of that cruise the daycare workers decided to get together and figure out what they could do differently on future cruises (and I hope that your suggestions are forwarded to them as well), I don't think you are owed a refund.
I do hope that the five of you are able to go on another cruise fairly soon and that it goes a lot better for all of you.
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You opted to have kids. You opted to take them on an expensive vacation. Things went wrong, as things will in real life, especially when young children are involved. Did you really expect anything different?
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by Jeanine S. Posted Fri June 20, 2008 @ 11:33 PM
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I only put them in after dinner. I really didn't dump them at all. They probably only spend 6 hours in there in 4 days. Except for the 3 yr old. I could force him to go in after the second day. I didn't give any sense that I was upset to the counslors that she paged me. It was their vaction too and I wasn't even mad at her. She started to get a little bored and when we got there she go involved with coloring. My point was that I didn't get paged when she really needed me. She was very upset in the bathroom. And again, I didn't say anything that I was upset. I felt so bad for her I just wanted to get her in the roon and get her changed. She wanted to go back and I made her wait till after dinner. I by all means didn't take this vaction to dump the kids but I did expect to get a few hour alone with my hubby. My husband and I don't have family where we live and our parentes live in differtent states so we don't leave the kids much. I couldn't image going on vacation without them. I thought by taking a cruise and having them close would of been a good idea. I thougt I would get the best of both worlds. Family fun during the day and a couple of hours at night. The commercials make it look so great. Also, two nights we did have them. We took them to a Pirate pary one night and the Toy story musical another night. but for you guys who stuck up for my and understand my complaint, THANKS. And for you guys who did nothing but bash me, you really have no idea who I am and I am sorry you feel the way you do.
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by Katseyes Posted Mon June 16, 2008 @ 8:06 AM
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I really sympathize with you, your kids are wrong for constantly bothering and "interrupting" you. It really isn't the sitter's fault if your child thinks it's okay to ruin your night by wanting to share a picture with you, how tedious. How dare your daughter question when you were going to pick her up it was only 10pm sheesh. Those mean counselors should have persuaded your kids into staying there so you and your husband could have some fun without being constantly bothered what the heck are they paid being paid for?
I agree the male in the bathroom was inappropriate and a real concern that should not be allowed to happen. I also agree that they should have tried to clean and sanitize your kids and the slide after the accident yuck!
The suggestion of a separate nap room seems like a great idea. I cannot imagine being stuck in a cabin on a cruise just so a kid can sleep. I hope you a your husband can get some satisfaction but take heart the kids will be grown and gone in 15 years and you'll be free to party!
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by All About the Branding Posted Mon June 16, 2008 @ 6:57 AM
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My kid (the lucky guy) went on a Disney cruise with grandma and grandpa.
The "day care" is fairly extensive, in that there is a very large area where kids, of varying ages, can do. They have dress up, arts and crafts, video games, and so forth. There are also scheduled activities, such as putting on a mini-show and a "graduation" ceremony.
The pager system is there to ensure that the parents are notified when they are needed. The staff there cannot (and, in my opinion, should not) make the determination of what is a reason to call the parents or not. This is not school, and it's not appropriate for a child to feel hostage.
It does concern me that a male was with a female child (although it sounds like there was also a female adult present). And it concerns me that children were placed near a feces-covered individual. This does not sound like the experience that my son had.
Based on what I've heard, I would hesitate to go on a Disney cruise or to send my kids to the "day care." I do think it's nice that they offer such an extensive program. I also like the security procedures they use as well as the fact that they don't hold children hostage. The benefit of a cruise like this is that the kids can spent some time with their parents and some time with other kids and "on their own." The amount depends on the child. Apparently, your children want to have occasional visits, if only to show you their artwork.
By the way, my son opted to spend a lot of time at the "center." It was his choice (so he says).
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by mary jo Posted Sun June 15, 2008 @ 10:29 PM
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Your poor kids!!!!
To be taken on the trip of a lifetime with their parents only to be dumped in the daycare all day long while mom and day run off and play.
UGH!
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Jeanine
by ♪♪Venice♪♪ Fri June 20, 2008 @ 11:37 PM
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by gb Posted Sun June 15, 2008 @ 8:36 PM
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If you and your husband were looking for a couples getaway (and it sounds like this even if you state it was a "family" vacation) you should have hired a nanny or gotten someone to stay home with your children. I have been to several resort and cannot imagine putting my children under the care of people I know nothing about. Your children were in a strange place with strangers and wanted to be with their parents. They are just little children.
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I think you did have some mishaps on your cruise, some caused by your children and some by the staff. I don't think this equates to a full refund however.
I agree with some posters that after the first couple of incidents in which your children paged you, the counselors may have been reluctant to page you again.
You daughter having an accident was unfortunate but it does happen. Perhaps they could have handled it a bit better but from what I could see about the counselor to child ratio, they seemed to be stretched a little thin.
How could the staff predict three potty accidents at the same time? Again, unfortunate and could have been handled better but it does happen in a daycare type setting as does pink eye.
The phones being out is again, something they can't predict. You could have gone down to the purser's desk to complain about the feces and then to the spa to book your massage but you chose to wait.
Cruise ships are like mini cities and problems and outages can occur.
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I was prepared to be against the OP because on cruise letters, the OPs seem to generally have an inflated sense of entitlement and privilege.
However, I came away from this letter fully understanding the OP's frustration.
I think that these kid-oriented cruises have been around long enough by now that they've had time to "work out the kinks," so to speak. Of course the OP would be annoyed if her kids were allow to page her on a whim -- the employees should know better than to do that.
I just feel like this was an ill-prepared child care center staff, and for what she probably paid for five people to go on a cruise, she deserved better care for her kids, and that "better care" includes "let me have four measly uninterruped hours alone with my husband." (Something that probably requires a sitter and a night out back home.)
Just my opinion.
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by Cor H. Posted Sun June 15, 2008 @ 12:36 PM
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With all due respect, it sounds as if the kids caused much of the initial problem. As another commenter posted below, the staff may not wish to interfere with a child attempting to contact a parent. Additionally, interrupting a parent/child confrontation, such as the young one throwing a fit, isn't always welcome either.
On the other hand, the staff may have been reluctant to page the OP regarding the bathroom accident if she had vocalized frustrations regarding the earlier pages. Regarding the potty accidents, having to deal with multiple children messing their clothes is difficult enough without having to supervise the other children at the same time. The staff probably didn't deliberately let the children slide down the contaminated equipment, but were too busy trying to clean up the other children to be able to prevent a lot of activity. They also cannot examine every child to determine if an irresponsible parent allowed one with pink eye or an ear infection to be exposed to other children.
For someone who emphasized the need to have this trip be a memorable one with her children, the OP seems to be fretting a lot about having to spend time with them.
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by ~Fiƒi-la-ƒlea~ Posted Sun June 15, 2008 @ 12:31 PM
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Oh how I do not miss those poopy days lol. The difference in taking kids to anything Disney so young, and then taking them a few years later is phenomenal. At least for us it was.
It's a shame it worked out that way and I hope your health is good so you have another opportunity to be able to get away and all of you have fun again.
I haven't heard anyone disappointed in the Disney employees, only the opposite, but things can happen. They usually do everything they can to make a bad situation wonderful. They were always wonderful with my kids when we were in challenging situations. They don't like to call parents for every little thing, it would make parents a wreck so maybe they were trying to handle it on their own as much as possible so you could try to enjoy your time out.
Let us know if they respond. Good luck.
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by kjandj Posted Sun June 15, 2008 @ 3:34 AM
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You wrote "I wanted this to be a trip for the whole family to remember just in case it was our last." and "I just hope my health concerns allow my family and I to vacation again cause I would hate for this trip to be the last they remember taking with me!!!", but this whole letter is about how spending time with your kids pretty much ruined your trip.
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by Peregrina Posted Sun June 15, 2008 @ 2:49 AM
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1. Unless your health concerns directly impacted your enjoyment (or non-enjoyment as the case may be) of the cruise, it doesn't really matter and you are simply using it as a sympathy ploy. It's obvious and makes many people less sympathetic instead of more.
2. Your kids paged you several times for non-reasons. Did you talk to the attendants about why they let the kids page you? Did it ever occur to you that it might be the rule of thumb to *let* the kids page the parents whenever they want? Many parents would throw a fit if they found out their kids had tried to contact them and weren't allowed to.
While your three year old was screaming, did you ask or in any way suggest you would have welcomed help? Many people are hesitant - for good reasons - to interfere between parents and children.
3. Your daughter in the bathroom is a more than valid complaint and I'm shocked you didn't raise cain about it with the powers that be, along with the *feces* on the slide. That's disgusting, though I have to wonder what you are implying when you say there were kids from 17 countries and anything could have happened.
4. Your suggestions about having a quiet area in the daycare are great and I wish you had mentioned them while you were on the ship when there was more of a chance of something actually being done.
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by Donno Posted Sun June 15, 2008 @ 2:42 AM
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Welcome to parenthood.
A lot of this sounds like what would happen if parents took their kids with them on a vacation.
It is called feces, by the way. Or faeces.
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hmm..
by nikkyk Thu December 16, 2010 @ 1:44 PM
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