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by Wellsbyrd Posted Wed October 1, 2008 @ 1:38 PM
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Personally, I don't think no one should have to cater to the gays. If a person decides they wants to be gay that is the personal business "don't ask, don't tell" I like that policy. The world has gone nuts.
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by scott5306 Posted Sat September 27, 2008 @ 12:06 AM
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Where are all these statements posted? The statement on the NGLCC website does not state they have a position on sexual orientation. All they did was donate money to a non-profit. If they donate to the NAACP do they now have a "black agenda"?
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by jennmurr Posted Fri September 19, 2008 @ 10:00 PM
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Wow Jerry, way to make friends on PF. I am a lesbian, recently married but for your sake, I should probably use the term "civil union" so not to take away from the sanctuary term. Personally, I could care less who McDonalds does or doesn't support, if I like other stuff about them, I am not going to walk away. I will say; however, it is 2008, so in case you have not realized, there are gay people out there and you won't catch the gayness by sipping an iced coffee and eating overly salted fries. I gotta ask though, Jack in the Box? Really? Maybe it should be Jack in the Closet? I don't know, but wanted to put it out there, as their spokesmodel comes across more homo (i mean it in the most endearing way of course) than Ronald McDonald.
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Congrats!
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by JERRY M. Posted Sun September 7, 2008 @ 8:04 PM
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Once again, let me clarify. I have nothing against gays. I personally don't necessarily think being gay is a choice, but something one may be born to. I think gays can be good parents - better sometimes than straight alcoholics or abusers. (Oh boy, now I offended THEM.) I'm not saying that most gays are not good people.But, some of those proud freaks in the parade are offensive. One doesn't dare say anything these days or some group will be offended and put all kinds of twists on it) Look, lead any lifestyle you choose. But, don't rub my nose in it. If you are a decent person, the world will respond one on one. I DO NOT agree that a public corporation should strongly support ANY certain group or agenda. Equal rights? Sure.
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by X Jiffy Lube Posted Fri September 5, 2008 @ 8:46 PM
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Time for a reality check:
The shareholders only care about whether or not Mcdonals is making money. That's it.
The Mcdonalds CEO your quoting probably realized this move would appeal to the broad consumer base and increase the companies sales. I speculate he is right.
It's obvious your at the wrong site if you came here to vent. I thought Christian Conservatives were supposed to be forgiving and loving. Your a very poor witness.
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by Mary Z. Posted Fri September 5, 2008 @ 6:38 PM
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Watch out guys! He's gonna move his profits to jack in the box!
but do fake heads appeal to the vast majority of shareholders?
Yea, lay off the biblical-thumping, Jerry, step out of the cave, and into the year 2008.
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by Tyson Posted Sat August 30, 2008 @ 1:02 PM
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Aaaaaaahahahahha...wait..are you serious? Uh oh...apparently you watch too much Fox News..Welcome to 2008!
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Jerry...
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Porn
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One word.
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Sarah Palin?
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by C A. Posted Tue August 26, 2008 @ 2:44 PM
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I always had my suspicions about the Grimace.
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by James C. Posted Sun August 24, 2008 @ 4:34 PM
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Just wondering, why would you think it's "safe to say that the vast majority [of] shareholders oppose" the action?
It's been my experience that shareholders are usually happy when a company they hold stock in takes measures to appeal to a broader customer base.
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by Wolf Mon August 18, 2008 @ 6:18 PM
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Nope
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by Mike H. Posted Tue August 26, 2008 @ 9:08 AM
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Prison!
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by Wolf Posted Tue August 26, 2008 @ 2:25 PM
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Did you know that a 17 year old BOY that has CONSENUAL sex with a 17 Year old GIRL, the BOY can (and most likely will) be charged with Satuary Rape and have to register as a Sex Offender? I have seen this happen. So because he and his girlfriend had a little fun he should be locked up? Check all your facts before you go spouting stuff.
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by JerryMander Posted Fri August 15, 2008 @ 8:40 PM
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I don't give McDonald's my business because they support whatever group you belong to. I have to assume that's some right wing Jesus thing which makes you see Satan around every corner and behind every bush.
Give me a break "aggressively promote the homosexual agenda" How do you know what a majority of shareholders support? Maybe the majority of people from Inbreed, Arkansas share your paranoia, but most of America isn't obsessed with gays going out in public.
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by Wolf Mon August 18, 2008 @ 10:23 AM
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by Becks Posted Thu August 14, 2008 @ 5:42 PM
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Well Jerry,
I personally don't see a problem with tolerance. Sorry to see you'd rather promote hate than eat some tasty fries.
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Jerry...
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by Dewayne Posted Mon August 11, 2008 @ 8:30 PM
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I predict that some day..women will be able to vote and work outside the home. Black people will be able to use the same water fountain as whites and sit anywhere on the bus they please....and some day the thought of gay people not having the same rights as anyone else will seem as archaic as your views and ideas.
Kudos to McDonalds for being proactive.
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by Roxxsmom Posted Sat August 9, 2008 @ 6:39 PM
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Lol "aggressively pursue the gay agenda." That doesn't sound like the way someone who is in favor of equal rights for all human beings would put it.
Are you sure you are not getting some paraphrased wording handed down from an AM talk radio "hate jock?"
Hopefully more companies will realize that discriminating against customers and workers who are different from the norm in various ways is bad business.
Lots of people are still uncomfortable with homosexuality. The current strategy of these folks seems to be to cite their religious beliefs as an excuse. I guess they are taking a page from the liberal books by making a case that their right to religious freedom is at risk here because they are being made to sanction a lifestyle they find sinful.
Well this is illogical because in no way does being civil and non judgemental "endorse" a person's lifestyle. We all interact with and provide services to people every day who make personal choices we would not be comfortable with because of our culture, beliefs and upbringing.
Ultimately we give most people the right to make choices that are "between them and their god(s)" while we continue to rent apartments to them, sell to them, provide them with insurance, employ them etc. and mostly mind out own business. Yet gays/lesbians are singled out as somehow being the one group where following this "live and let live" practice is a violation of one's religious beliefs.
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by DonB85 Posted Thu August 7, 2008 @ 1:54 PM
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It wouldn't have to be an agenda if is was socially accepted and they are taking a step to help it become accepted. I always find things like this funny because we can take time to gripe over things like this but, it's the same everywhere you have a government for the people by the people but yet your president can decide to go to war with everyone telling him no.
You don't like gay people understandable but you can't speak for the shareholder you have no idea maybe more then 50% of there shareholders are homosexual, maybe they are heterosexual and maybe 90% of the shareholders are gay or accept homosexuality. Deal with it get over it. Nobodies beliefs are the same.
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by Katseyes Posted Sun August 3, 2008 @ 5:30 PM
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Most people have an agenda, incliuding neocons just ask Mellon:) I will say that Gay people would probably be upset if McDonalds said they were donating and becoming a member of the Roman Catholic Church. Ronald really could use a queer guys touch to bring him into the 22nd century lol.
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by mcgibblover Posted Sat August 2, 2008 @ 10:14 PM
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What ever happened to live and let live. I have my own problems and too much going on in my own life to worry about what someone does or doesn't do in their bedrooms or personal lives. While we're talking about repressing groups. Why don't we do away with the NACCP. See how stupid it sounds just like I've always said everyone needs to mind their own business.
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by BamBam Posted Fri August 1, 2008 @ 3:25 PM
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Then Mr. Jerry M should go to Jack in the Box if he so wishes. Apparently, McDonald's is "OUT" of the box and I for one will gladly take up what he sells. Way to go McDonald's!
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I am just as outraged at you and your position so where does that leave all of us?
In a country that gives us the freedom to speak our likes and dislikes no matter what it is.
And you have written (and I assume verbalized) your and others have done the same with their freedom in here.
So what's your next agenda?
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by CarrotStick Posted Fri August 1, 2008 @ 12:49 PM
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Jerry,
I know without doubt that you do not speak for this McDonald's shareholder, since I have no problem with McDonald's being compassionate, humanitarian, empathetic, socially aware and socially responsible. I'm not gay, but I believe in "live and let live" and letting people be who they want to be. McDonald's has embraced this philosophy as well.
You are who you are, too. If McDonald's policy bothers you, sell your shares. I hope this will make you feel better. What I really hope is that at some point people will be more tolerant of things they do not understand.
A gay couple lives down the street from my husband, daughter and I. They are our best neighbors. They take excellent care of their home, they are always well dressed, they hold positions of authority in the companies for which they work (one is a Manager, the other the Vice President of Finance and Administration), are financial responsible with their money and are extremely tolerant of straight people. We've known them for 10 years and they haven't once said one word or talked to us about their sexual orientation.
As far as I can tell, being gay isn't a religion. Gays aren't working to try to convert straight people over to becoming gay. Personally, I think McDonald' is simply embracing altruism.
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by Iris31NJ Posted Fri August 1, 2008 @ 11:39 AM
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What, PRECISELY, is the homosexual agenda?
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by Scott F. Posted Fri August 1, 2008 @ 3:43 AM
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A homosexual agenda isn't an effort to turn everyone "gay", it's an effort to obtain recognition of their human rights to act as individuals and do what they want, including getting "married" and being left alone.
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by Jon Y. Posted Thu July 31, 2008 @ 11:56 AM
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Ya know...I do not know why or even if Mcdonalds is doing this........but there is one thing I do know....... I am totally hooked on that new Big and Tasty.... have you tryed that burger?!... OMFG that thing is awesome... I thought nothing could beat the big mac but holy crap!... I love that god damn thing.. so even though as a guy I am kinda naturally homophobic... they could have a gay pride carnival in the place for all I care at this point... I need the Big and Tasty!!!.. Feel free to send me hate mail now..
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by Marty5223 Posted Thu July 31, 2008 @ 11:05 AM
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Wow maybe they will put sex toys in the Happy Meals now. That could make for a real happy meal.
It is 2008 and time to STOP hating. You are correct when you say sell your stock if it bothers you that much. You can't speak for the other stock holders. I love it when someone that opposes something becomes the unofficial spokesperson for everyone else. What did you do take a survey of them all? I imagine there are many shareholders, and that you know very few of them.
Anyway check out Gay Pride Festivals across the US. You will see that corporate America is sponsoring and embracing Gay America. If you are afraid you will catch GAY then do it on the web. It is not contagious through the internet. The business world realizes were HERE, were Queer, were everywhere.
Now all you have to do is GET USE TO IT! Just like I have gotten use to Haters Like You!
To the poster below that posted the gay agenda. Don't leave out the Sunday T dance. That is very important part of the gay agenda.
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McDonalds food is nasty anyway, who cares.
Good Day
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by Mike Z. Posted Wed July 30, 2008 @ 2:01 PM
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First Mcdonald's supports the "Gay Agenda", the next thing you know they will let you supersize your meal to include anal sex.
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EXACTLY
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Sorry
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by D. R. Posted Wed July 30, 2008 @ 11:37 AM
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So if McDonald's wanted to openly support a Christian group, would you be ok with that? Because as a Jew it would offend me. It also offends me that Ronald McDonald is a clown. Why does he have to be a clown? The gnomes of the world should be really really mad.
Bottom line as always - MONEY. Gays are consumers too. McDonald's, as a huge corporation, will suck up to anyone to get their money. I am sure you would be very surprised if you were to dig a little deeper into the actions of many companies whose products and services you use on a daily basis.
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by Tom S. Posted Wed July 30, 2008 @ 11:18 AM
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My reasons, though, are that I want to avoid hardening of my arteries, ingesting an insane amount of sodium and fat, becoming obese, and wasting money on foods with little to no real nutritional value.
I cannot fathom how McDonald's joining a chamber of commerce is going to do anything but bring about publicity for that chamber of commerce - something letters like this do quite well. I didn't even know such an organization existed until I read this letter.
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by freeby4me Posted Wed July 30, 2008 @ 9:44 AM
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Now I have an excellent reason to fully support McDonalds. Thank you!!
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by Zan Posted Wed July 30, 2008 @ 9:13 AM
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Ugh.
I won't even respond to you, Jerry. I'd just get even more disgusted and sound as classy as you do in your letter - and I don't want to go there.
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It's pointless to argue with people like this guys. They are filled with too much hate and they aren't worth it.
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by YouAreKiddingMe Posted Wed July 30, 2008 @ 8:08 AM
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The CEO is free to do what he pleases as the head of the firm (within certain legal boundaries, of course).
You, as a stockholder, can attempt to get him removed as CEO.
Good luck. You'll fail.
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by helmickr Posted Wed July 30, 2008 @ 5:46 AM
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"add to my positions in Jack in the Box"
Calling Dr Freud...
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As to the whole concept of the "destruction of the family" nonsense:
1) Are you seriously suggesting there aren't enough children in the world? When will you be happy with the population size -- when we have no trees, oceans, grass, and ducks, and only have buildings full of folks?
2) Are you seriously suggesting that the "family" would be just fine if the gay folks went away? Are the gay members of society forcing the 16 year old kids to have children? Are the gay folks somehow forcing their straight friends to go out and have extra-marital relationships? Are the gay folks somehow responsible for the fact that the straight world can't keep more than 1/2 of its marriages even arguably stable? Exactly how have the homosexuals destroyed your family?
Or maybe the gays are destroying the family by quoting things that were never said in order to defame someone. Oh, wait. That's you.
Here's a rather novel idea. Rather than spend your time trying to eliminate homosexuals in the universe, why don't you spend some time feeding the hungry, caring for the sick, helping the homeless, and educating the children. Maybe if all of the straight folks did that instead of focusing on getting more money so that they could buy bigger houses and boats, Ralph Lauren shirts and Michael Jordan shoes, their families would be a lot stronger.
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by mike g Posted Wed July 30, 2008 @ 3:03 AM
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I don't think your a gaybasher just because you don't want your investments going to support someone lifestyle. If others want to support them theres ways to do it with their money not yours.
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by Alexandra Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 11:42 PM
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I don't plan on patronizing them in the future either, if they keep on promoting perversion.
McDonald's and other places should remain neutral if anything.
They are not being "socially responsible." Quite the opposite.
I am SO sick and tired of this "tolerance" crap being foisted on us. Tolerance is not always a good thing.
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by p d. Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 11:38 PM
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"add to my positions in Jack in the Box."
I find that ironic.
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by Donno Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 11:17 PM
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McDonald's response to American Family Association:
"All references to comments from Jim Skinner, McDonald's CEO in the Action Alert Newsletter are complete fabrications."
AFA's comment on McDonald's response:
"Our Action Alert assumed that Mr. Skinner's comments were specifically addressing the promotion of the gay agenda, when they were not. We apologize for any confusion this has caused."
It sounds like the OP remains confused months later.
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by Blackrack Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 11:16 PM
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Alright, people, I'll be willing to admit when I'm wrong. There is a gay agenda, and I have found it. Yes, I've posted it on PFB once before and I pray this will be the last time. Now, from their sinful ballpoint pens to your eyes,the Homosexual Agenda.
6:00 am Gym
8:00 am Breakfast (oatmeal and egg whites)
9:00 am Hair appointment
10:00 am Shopping
12:00 PM Brunch
2:00 PM 1) Assume complete control of the U.S. Federal, State and Local Governments as well as all other national governments.
2) Recruit all straight youngsters to our debauched lifestyle.
3) Destroy all healthy heterosexual marriages.
4) Replace all school counselors in grades K-12 with agents of Colombian and Jamaican drug cartels.
5) Establish planetary chain of "homo breeding gulags" where over-medicated imprisoned straight women are turned into artificially impregnated baby factories to produce prepubescent love slaves for our devotedly pederastic gay leadership.
6) bulldoze all houses of worship.
7) Secure total control of the INTERNET and all mass media for the exclusive use of child pornographers.
2:30 PM Get forty winks of beauty rest to prevent facial wrinkles from stress of world conquest
4:00 PM Cocktails
6:00 PM Light Dinner (soup, salad, with Chardonnay) 8:00 PM Theater
11:00 PM Bed
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by Alissa S. Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 10:05 PM
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The infamous "gay agenda." Can someone please tell me what the "gay agenda" is? Far as I can tell from the gay couple that lives in my neighborhood, their agenda is to go to work at their professional jobs everyday, raise their kids, keep up their home, and pretty much do all the stuff that my husband and I do.
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by Donno Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 10:00 PM
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Good for Mr. Skinner. Someone has to support that agenda actively. Who is going to do it? Me? YOU?
You should concentrate your efforts on opening your mind before it completely collapses on itself.
74.8% of shareholders in McD's are INSTITUTIONS. Do you think they would leave their money there if they agreed with your narrow view? Go ahead and buy Jack in the Box. In the past year, McDonald's stock is up 25% and Jack in the Box is down 35%. Thus an investor did 60% better if they invested in McD's a year ago.
Now I have seen everything.
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by DSG12 Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 9:40 PM
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Oh my good Lord....
Whether or not you hold shares of McDonalds, and whether or not you choose to eat their hamburgers, there will still be gay people in the world. It's very unfortunate that you have nothing better to do with your time than complain about people who don't affect you...
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by Karen A. Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 9:39 PM
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Even though I may not be a lesbian or gay, I do applaud McDonalds, in there support of Gay & Lesbian rights. I may not live my life as they do, but I respect them, for fighting for what they believe in and for who and what they love. I beleive in giving respect in order to receive it. I have many gay friends, and they are NO different than you or I and should be treated no differently. If you don't like it, oh well, take your business elsewhere. I don't think McDonalds will will lose any sleep over it.
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by Jugi Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 9:35 PM
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so sell your shares already...
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by SuzieCat Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 9:18 PM
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You know, I feel sad for the OP. That's all, just sad.
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all mcdonald's is doing is treating everyone fairly. i pray that the day will come when discriminating against someone because of their sexual preference will be as taboo as discriminating against someone because of their color or gender. it's people like you who make me ashamed to share the same planet with you.
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by Peregrina Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 9:05 PM
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What to say that hasn't already been said? The only agenda is to live in a world without artificial boundaries created by people like you who are afraid anything that is different.
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by Blackrack Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 8:38 PM
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If I didn't already live in Canada, I'd move here.
Since when has the motto "treat every living person with the respect they deserve" meant "because we respect this group of people, we hate everyone else"?
Is it safe to say the majority of stockholders oppose this? Have you been talking to them lately?
The gays don't have an agenda. I've looked all over the house for it, it's not here. My dad can't even keep his day planner up to date.
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by JERRY M. Sun September 7, 2008 @ 5:44 PM
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by cissy Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 8:20 PM
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I don't frequent Mcdonalds often but tend to go when they have charity events. They have done amazingly well in supporting their Ronald Mcdonald houses( I bet you can stomach that one). I think I will purchase some "holdings" in support of their diverse concerns.
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I think I'll go get a Happy Meal right now.
Thanks for the info!
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Would this letter have been printed if you replaced the words "gay," "lesbian" and "homosexual" with words such as "Hispanic," "black," or "Asian"?
If not, then I think this letter has no business on this site.
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Tsk tsk.
I assure you that you are in the minority. What are you afraid of? Are you really so insecure that how other people live their lives threatens you? I'm straight, but I am more offended by YOU than by any gays or lesbians.
Remember: Someone you love (niece, son, uncle, sister?) is gay or lesbian. They just haven't told you because you've made your ugly bigotry so very clear.
I pity you and others like you.
Angela, a proud ally of the GLBT community
P.S. The gay agenda is pretty much the same as YOUR agenda: Wake up in the morning, raise kids, go to work, get groceries, spend time with family and friends, grow old, retire, die with loved ones holding their hands.
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by Alex DeLarge Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 6:35 PM
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This is out of context, misdated, and not the correct quote.
Nice try, Jerry M. The actual quote was about being ethical.
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Somehow, I don't think that you can speak for the majority of the stockholders. Please attribute your hate speech to yourself and don't assume you speak for anyone else.
And Jack In The Box, huh?
Please take note of this from their manual...
Equal Employment
Opportunity
It is unlawful or against Jack in the Box
policy to discriminate in the employment
of any person on account of characteristics
such as race, color, religion, sex,
pregnancy, national origin, ancestry, age,
marital status, disability, veterans' status
or SEXUAL ORIENTATION. The same rule
applies in matters of promotions and discipline.
If you have any concern or doubt
as to whether a particular action might be
in violation of equal employment opportunity
laws, call Jack's Ethics Helpline.
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by Steve-OH Posted Tue July 29, 2008 @ 5:51 PM
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by tomalhe Sun September 14, 2008 @ 11:46 PM
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