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by SuzieCat Posted Sun September 7, 2008 @ 5:08 PM
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Hey Mel, I am just curious....did you get a reply fromm them?
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by KJCat Posted Tue September 2, 2008 @ 5:27 PM
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I think it's interesting that the manager called the police. If someone was, in fact, intoxicated upon leaving the restaurant and was then pulled over or had an accident, could the restaurant not be held liable for either A. over-serving the customer or B. serving an intoxicated person, period (assuming the person arrived that way)?
As far as the complaint goes, I probably wouldn't patronize that location again either. Maybe you just rubbed someone the wrong way that evening. I think it's a little excessive to call the police about two drinks over a two hour period, but that's just me.
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by Mike H. Posted Tue August 26, 2008 @ 11:09 PM
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I side with the manager. You chose to drink and drive. Be lucky you did not kill someone because if you kill someone I knew, I would want you to get life in prison without parole.
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by James C. Posted Sun August 24, 2008 @ 3:53 PM
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I'm wondering if the fact that you live in Utah had something to do with it. Could it have been someone misguidedly acting on his or her religious beliefs?
Just a thought.
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by CCJJ Posted Wed August 20, 2008 @ 4:44 AM
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Congratulations to this manager. He should be commended for taking action. An accident, whether related to the fact that you were drinking or not, could have held him liable for the damage, or taken ones life because they choose to serve you ONE drink (Utah dram shop law) If you and your husband are as responsible as you say you are, take the damn breathlizer test and be thankful you live in a safe community. Shame on the police officer for sharing information on this establishment. These situations are REAL--my best friend is alive today.
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WHAT?!?
by SuzieCat Wed August 20, 2008 @ 2:03 PM
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by Watty Posted Mon August 18, 2008 @ 3:33 PM
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This isn't the first time that I have heard about something like this happening. It's to bad that your entire evening had generally tanked because of obscenely bad customer service. If you're up for cooking at home still I recommend trying out Lobster Gram. They are a great mail order lobster, steak, gourmet food company that even deliver live lobster from Maine nationwide. I hope you never have another experience like that again though.
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by Richard S. Posted Mon August 18, 2008 @ 3:01 PM
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How do you know the call came from the restaurant? Did the police tell you this?
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Everyone needs to quit painting this manager as a wannabe hero and recognize him for what he is: a retaliatory baby who needs to not take criticism (about slow wait times) personally.
At best, this manager chased away two diners from going to his restaurant again. At worst, a REAL drunk driver got away because the police were preoccupied with the OP and her husband.
And aside:
If you're ever wrongly pulled over for suspected DUI, you can legally refuse all of the field sobriety tests and go straight to the Breathalyzer. The police have to let you do this (at least in Iowa and Minnesota, they do). Since the Breathalyzer is more definitive than the other field sobriety tests, it could save some time and embarrassment.
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by Final Score: Boys-3, Girls-1 Posted Sun August 17, 2008 @ 10:20 PM
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As someone with kids, as someone who drives home late at night, I applaud the manager for making the call. Better safe than sorry. Had you actually been intoxicated, Red Lobster, the waitress, the bartender, and that manager would have been in just as much trouble as you for not making the call.
I would happily take a sobriety test that I passed and go on my way if it means catching drivers that actually are drunk.
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by fight noise pollution Thu September 4, 2008 @ 10:22 AM
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Serving them alcohol, letting them go, THEN calling the police AFTER they are on the road because you think they might be too drunk to drive?
Not so smart. It's basically like saying Heyyyy cops! Fine us, we served too much alcohol and let drunk people drive!
In my opinion it sounds like this was personal.
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by DSG12 Posted Sun August 17, 2008 @ 3:45 PM
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Everyone gets "drunk" at a different "pace," so it can be hard to judge when someone has been served "too much." What if they're totally trashed after just one or two drinks? It happens. Also, you can't hold someone against their will to prevent them from getting in their car and driving away, so it's better to call the police after they're on the road than to do nothing at all...
You'd probably feel differently if a restaurant had served someone alcohol and then they went and drove away in their car and killed someone you know. You'd want to know where the police were THEN. (and I say "you" meaning no one in particular...)
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by Turbofan Posted Wed August 27, 2008 @ 9:51 AM
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I have to agree, it sounds like the call to the Police was more about the Red Lobster's Manager personal vendetta with the OP, and was just using the "being careful" card as a way to get back at the OP for voicing their opinions about the service.
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by Donno Posted Sat August 16, 2008 @ 6:24 PM
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Is there more to this story? I know this happened in Utah, where alcohol consumption is handled meticulously in the first place, but it doesn't sound right. Two drinks in two hours, and a manager suggests to the police you were drunk. Of course you may have come in blasted, but that could not have happened if your BAC was .007.
I'm wondering if there was some sort of argument or harsh words regarding the service or food that preceded this. I'm not saying that justifies calling the police (it doesn't), but do you not have any inkling as to what may have set the manager off (were you swaying all over the place and slurring your words)?
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by anonymous consumer Sat August 30, 2008 @ 3:09 AM
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Did anyone else notice that this letter didn't seem to go anywhere or did I miss something?
Shame, too, because this manager needs to have a serious talking-to. Unless you were acting rowdy (high on life?), and with the way you describe the service I doubt you were, this bozo had no reason to call the law on you. Sounds like he was retaliating for a small tip (which he deserved!) or something.
Good for you for calling him on it and I think that you're one of the few that actually deserves a written apology, suitable for framing :)
I hope you get it!
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I definately agree with the others...but what gets me is the fact that a place like Red Lobster knows that their alcohol is meaured out and that anyone having 2 mixed drinks is probably not drunk. Its not like its the neighborhood bar where the drinks are poured less sparingly usually.
This GM needs to be instructed by the police as to when to call and when not to.
What a waste of time.
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I agree 100% with this OP. This GM needs an education in this area, or he's going to be pissing off a lot of customers.
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by SuzieCat Sun August 17, 2008 @ 1:52 PM
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Utah is one of those states that, when someone is pulled over for a potential dwi, the police attempt to determine where the person last drank. If the person ends up being arrested, this can have repercussions on the establishment which last served them especially if it has happened several times.
(A promising strategy that is being implemented by some States (e.g., Massachusetts, Oregon, Utah, and Washington) involves identifying the place of last drink for those arrested on driving under the influence/driving while intoxicated (DUI/DWI) charges. The collection of this data allows States to identify and target problem outlets that may be in violation of laws prohibiting sales to intoxicated people or drink specials that encourage over-consumption of alcohol. http://tinyurl.com/6d3p43)
It's interesting that the general manager of this Red Lobster ran the risk of calling this kind of unwelcome attention onto his restaurant.
Thanks for using PlanetFeedback!
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by SuzieCat Posted Sat August 16, 2008 @ 10:42 AM
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WOW, that sure was a waste of resources. It does sound as though the call was in retaliation, assuming you complained about the service.
I agree with the others, if the store truly thought you were drunk, at least a cab should have been offered. Sounds fishy on the part of Red Lobster.
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I agree with the other commentators; they should have offered to call a cab if they thought you were that intoxicated. But, like another commentator, I wonder, DID you complain about the slow service? You mention the general manager was involved in the slow service, so that's why I'm asking. If so, I wonder if the call was retaliation.
I'm not suggesting that justifies it, because no matter what the situation, the restaurant was in the wrong. And yes, what a waste of city resources.
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by Blackrack Posted Sat August 16, 2008 @ 9:11 AM
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Jeez, even if you had been drunk they handled it poorly. They should have informed you that they thought you weren't fit to drive and offered to call a cab.
Makes me wonder how well they handle actual drunk drivers. A lot can happen in four blocks.
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by Rated Argh Posted Sat August 16, 2008 @ 8:08 AM
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Great Letter! I can't believe they would call the police when they didn't offer to assist in any way if they thought you were so intoxicated. Mabye you complained and they did this as revenge? If this is true it is very juvenile.I would suggest resending this letter as it appears to not have been sent to anyone.
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by SumnerMan Posted Sat August 16, 2008 @ 7:18 AM
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For those wondering what the legal limit is in Utah, it's .08 The breathalizer showed .007 She wasn't even 1/10 of the way to the legal limit.
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by SumnerMan Posted Sat August 16, 2008 @ 6:43 AM
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Two drinks over two hours (and with meals) and they call the police? What a bunch of nitwits. If they thought that you were too intoxicated to drive why didn't they do the right thing (as they were the ones who served you the drinks) and offer to call a taxi? Anyway, great letter. Very well written.
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