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by Anonymous A. Posted Sun February 15, 2009 @ 2:58 AM
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Alot(not all) of people in America fail to realize that certain major news networks only report terrorism from a certain religion(example, Muslim). While I do agree ANY terrorism is bad no matter what race or religion it comes from, no one realizes or sees the amount of terrorism committed by other races and religions(example- Jewish),because the news covers it up! Many people (not all)also fail to realize that the Israeli military were indeed very cruel and awful to be killing HUNDREDS, and I mean HUNDREDS of innocent Palestinian civilians, most of those children. Those biased news sites never ONCE accused them of committing cruel terrorist acts, but instead found more ways to malign the innocent by IMPLYING their bias reports in their stories, when you know what they really mean is "Another terrorist Muslim is killed, hooray".These come from the biased minds that always think that every Muslim is and is born a terrorist, when there are indeed many good Muslims in this world, just as there is other religions.
To wish death on innocent children from ANY race or religion is just sickening, and the bias of this world is just plain awful. No matter what happens,there will always be bias.
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by Dez Posted Wed February 11, 2009 @ 2:08 PM
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Honestly, these are the people that this society produces. Is anyone else feeling nauseated as they read this crap? Did you honestly believe that is what the toy said to you?
Do you honestly believe that this is a crackpot scheme to win the hearts and minds of american children?
Scary that this is what it comes down to. This is why the world is ending. We are all just too dumb to go on.
Where are the rational tolerant people?
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by Queenie22 Posted Mon February 9, 2009 @ 6:04 PM
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You said that fisher-price/mattel offered to replace the 'faulty' part- problem solved. Why do you think you deserve more than that? Do you honestly think it was intentional?
My guess is that it was meant to sound like something else but with your husband having the job he has you two make it out for the worst. I know how most people in the service get- single minded and very hateful- especially those in the middle east.
You should be very satisfied with their offer to replace it for you.
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by ishkabibble Posted Sun February 8, 2009 @ 4:50 PM
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I don't see what your husband being a Marine has to do with the doll that had been tampered with. It sounds like you are both of the mind that people of the Islam faith are enemies of America.
Anti-American terrorist and Muslim are not synonymous.
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by Underdog Posted Fri February 6, 2009 @ 6:45 PM
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Maybe the new president who's father was a Muslim and who can't provide a birth certificate is hopping to it earlier than expected.
Remember 911 and yet you still have no problem with a religion that thinks it's okay to kill anyone that doesn't agree with them.
Back in line number 99...
To anyone that considers this attitude as that of Hitler,you need to look in the mirror.
He wanted to rule the world and make everyone believe what he did just like Muslims.
"that which seems good will appear evil and that which is evil will seem good"
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by Blackrack Posted Tue January 27, 2009 @ 7:12 AM
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WWII ended sixty-four years ago today. Maybe tolerance takes sixty-five years to fully kick in.
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by loveall Posted Tue January 20, 2009 @ 11:36 PM
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When our children are running around the house saying ("Islam is the Light Mommy") someone needs to explain!
FP offered to replace the chip!
I paid more for shipping and handleing than the doll itself cost. This was one of the three things my baby asked for for christmas. She thinks I sent her for a doctors appointment and askes ("is Lilly better yet") everyday. I got a lot more than I barganed for thats for sure. The employee that is reponsible for this needs to be saught out, fired and then put under investigation.
WE DESERVE AN EXPLAINATION! I agree with what most all the people said, as far as the religion differance and I don't think all musliums are bad. Maybe it was a dirty trick from some confused kid or maybe it was someone tring to brain wash our children. I know some people don't think this is not such a bad think and people are takeing this to seriously, but it blows my mind to think I paid for child to have that sentance in her mind and a part of her vocab.
This doll and this quote is real! Please if you don't have children and if you haven't heard this doll for yourself then don't post your thoughts.
I could almost bet this batmoody works for FP.
The reason the for the military man being so upset and not satisfied is because, he and most of his friend fight for this country everyday to keep unwanted things such as this from happening.
ISLAM IS NOT THE LIGHT!!! Thats why everyone is so upset if anyone is having trouble understanding.
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by April S. Posted Sun January 18, 2009 @ 11:07 AM
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What's the big deal?
Some disgruntled worker decided to put some stupid message on a doll. That's what happened. And with everyone being so PC, the company decided to not answer why (even if they did say why, it would be speculation as they are not privy to the voices in the employees head). Send the doll back and they will fix it for you. Who cares?
This is hardly the first time something like this has happend. Go to snopes.com and read about all of them. I find it hilarious, but that's just me.
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After I read this letter the first time, I was at Target and saw this doll - played with it and heard just garble, no mention of Islam, nothing to warrant a letter - did hear something that sounded like light.
Tonight I was in a different Target, waiting to ask the employee in the toy dept a question, and found myself standing in front of this freaky doll. Yup - had to hear it again. Holy Crap! It was absolutely different. Sure did sound like "Islam is the Light."
I still can't believe it and am glad I never posted my original thoughts about this. It may not be whatthe sound chip is actually saying, but on the 2nd doll there is no dounbt that it could be heard that way.
Still though - just get a new doll and let it go. I would.
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by mirraclaire Posted Fri January 9, 2009 @ 1:00 PM
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I, too, am disgusted by this after seeing this on something that my dad sent me. I have the address and name of the CEO of Mattel (owns Fisher Price) and also Fisher Price:
Bob Eckert
CEO Chairman
Mattel Inc.
333 Continental Blvd
El Sugundo, CA 90245-5012
Neil B. Friedman
President
Fisher Price
636 Girard Avenue
East Aurora, NY 14052
I am going to write them and complain and see if I can get others to do so, also.
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by Wolf Fri January 9, 2009 @ 2:33 PM
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Are you kidding me?!?! I have a plant that says, "your mother dresses you funny." Oh, but, funny, it just says it when I drink.
what ever is this world coming to? THey put melamine in our food, peanut butter gives you cancer, scorpions in our fruit?
I don't really have a plant and I don't really drink. But, I do dress funny, just to hear opinions snickered.
Just take the doll back and get her a radio controlled tank.
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by Durgesh S. Posted Mon January 5, 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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Islamists want rights for themselves but never provide rights to other. Look at how every Islamist (== terrorist) is up in arms about Gaza but when Gaza was firing rockets, they were quiet. Similarly, when muslims attacked mumbai and hand picked hindus, christinas and jews, they were quiet. These muslims (==terrorists) let the muslims go from Taj hotel.
For the naive who think this is handful of muslims, it is not true. Wakeup, majority feel that Sept 11 was justified. They will not come and tell you on your face. These are not handful, there is a major population. Look at the muslim countries. THey treat non-muslims badly but want equal rights every where else.
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by Anonymous A. Thu January 8, 2009 @ 6:24 AM
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maybe if
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So, Ben...
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So, no...
by Just Jeffrey Thu January 8, 2009 @ 11:11 AM
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Jeffrey,
by Ben G. Thu January 8, 2009 @ 4:22 PM
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HERE!
by Wolf Thu January 8, 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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Source?
by Just Jeffrey Fri January 9, 2009 @ 2:26 PM
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by Bianca B. Posted Mon January 5, 2009 @ 3:37 PM
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The doll does say it. We bought it for my niece and we had everyone at work listen to it. Its still a cute doll though and my niece enjoys it. I think it would be just as odd if it said "Jesus is the Light". She learns religion at church...not from a phrase that a doll says.
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by what me worry Posted Wed December 31, 2008 @ 4:34 PM
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Hey, maybe if you play the recording backwards it will say "Jesus is the Light." LOL
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by Anonymous A. Posted Wed December 31, 2008 @ 6:16 AM
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Any of you who say Islam is ALL evil, you are wrong! There are many good Islamic people out in this world, as there is with people of other religions. I can't change peoples' biased ignorance of Muslims, but get your heads out of the gutter, and start realizing that terrorism comes in many religions! Remember the Oklahoma City bombing?
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by Wolf Wed December 31, 2008 @ 4:25 PM
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I actually saw a display of these dolls in the store today and started playing with it. I tried and tried - I must have stood there for 20 minutes looking like a dope waving my hand in front of this doll's face. Nothing even REMOTELY close to "Islam is the Light" that the OP reports hearing. I tried with several of the dolls and nothing more than coos, giggles and babbling with an occasional "Mama" thrown in for good measure.
I don't know if the OP's instance was just a bad batch of dolls or possibly a case of media influence, but none of the dolls that I physically saw said anything like this.
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by Cherry O. Posted Tue December 30, 2008 @ 3:16 PM
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Well, they were unable to explain because it was not deliberate. You can't explain why you did something if you didn't intend to do it. I have listened to the sound file, and I honestly did not hear what you heard. If I had been a manufacturer or tester of the doll, I would have approved the sound, because it sounds to me like baby cooing--and nothing else. My guess would be that there was nobody working on the doll who heard what you heard. Many dolls use real baby sounds for their voice functions, so possibly it didn't even occur to them that an actual, pre-verbal infant would be saying something that sounds like, "Islam is the light."
Please calm down and buy your daughter some nice, silent dolls that she can use for pretend play about your religion (or non-religion) of choice. An accident like this is not worth the sturm and drang.
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I told you so! But I called this one. I knew someone, somewhere was gonna pitch a religious fit over something else FP made this year. It's become more predictable than the ball in Times Square on December 31st!
A company tries to branch out culturally and incorporate other faiths and people are outraged and offended. There's no winning, I tell ya!
And to the OP; a recall AND an apology??? Really? Just because of a goof up with a doll?
If this is the WORST thing that has ever happened in your life, I wanna be you!
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by X Jiffy Lube Posted Sun December 28, 2008 @ 2:49 AM
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It sounds like the dolls are being pulled when where they are getting complaints and the manufacturer is correcting the problem. Seriously why are you so upset. You mentioned your husband as a marine and this was why he was upset about the reference to Islam. You know we do have Muslims serving in the marines too along with Christains, Jews and others. If your husband has a problem with Muslims than I don't see why being a marine is an explanation for this.
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by Melissa J. Posted Sat December 27, 2008 @ 12:08 PM
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I believe that sometimes people can make themselves believe they are hearing something when thats not actually what they are hearing it is all in the mind sometimes.Fisher Price is doing exactly what they should be doing,and ofcourse even if it is not saying that all there going to do is apologize and offer to fix the problem.Thats all they are rquired to do and all they should do.Even if that is what the doll says it is not meant to breed hate into people.By you reacting the way you did about something like that goes to show how much hate there still is.Isn't that what you your husband is fighting for,our freedom? I am not saying that it is right,I don't think a doll should say that but to behonest the kids aren't the ones who would notice it or even know what it would mean it is the parents who notice and make something bigger than what it is. People have the right to believe in what they want it is called freedom of religon but they should never push it on to someone eles.Either get the doll fixed like they offered or get rid of it, there isn't anything eles you can do about it.
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by franese Posted Sat December 27, 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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According to Snopes this is not true BUT people sometimes hear what they want to hear. http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/dolltalk.asp
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by Just Jeffrey Fri January 2, 2009 @ 7:06 AM
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by CanadianBoy Sat December 27, 2008 @ 10:21 PM
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Barbie said it best: Math is hard!
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This was bothering me, so I did a "Virgin Ears" test.
I had my family listen to the audio clip from Snopes without telling them ANY background whatsoever.
My dad thought it was saying "Gotta Light?" and my mom heard nothing.
Once I revealed the controversy, my mom then heard it, and my dad was still confused.
However I heard "Islam is the light" the first time.
I think someone interpreted it wrong, word spread, and when you are listening for it, you hear it.
Additionally, "Light" is the only distinct word. "Islam" is very garbled.
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by PepperElf Posted Fri December 26, 2008 @ 9:09 PM
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I wonder if you can test the dolls before opening them... I'm sure it won't be a job people would like doing, but... FP is going to lose a lot of money off of this one in my opinion.
Then again if they have any serial numbers on the dolls, perhaps they can figure out what series was tampered with.
And out of curiosity when did you purchase the doll?... I ask because I did a quick check and Fox News had an article about it - from back in early October.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435164,00.html
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by REA Posted Fri December 26, 2008 @ 7:45 PM
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Yes i think it was nice of them to offer to replace the microchip however they want us to pay the shipping and handling to ship it back to their department to have their "Mistake" fixed. and no i no longer let my daughters play with the doll! I am just upset with the fact that this got through quality control and even if it is not saying that then how come someone did not catch the simularities in the saying? come on now i did not hear of this doll saying "Islam is the light" until my girls were playing with it. and then i searched on line and its not just me who heard it!!!! here is my reply to the person on "Dont you know there are marines who are Muslims too" Yes i know that there are different religions where ever you go but unless it is says clearly on the package that the toy says religous statments then it would not be such a big deal. however i am sure if someone practices a certain religion they would not appreciate their child getting a toy that has statements about another religion that they do not believe in! am i right? I am not trying to be mean and ask for alot i just feel that we should not have to pay the shipping and handling for them to fix it.
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"I would like Fisher-Price/Mattel to have all of these dolls pulled of the shelf and replaced."
Ummm... from the line "Wal-Mart ,Target and K-Mart pulled all of these dolls off the shelf to have them sent back to Fisher-Price/Mattel to have the microchips replaced/corrected." and from the fact that the manufacturer even offered to replace the doll's chip for you, I think that they are doing the right thing and correcting it.
Your complaint should be with Meijer for not checking with the manufacturer for updates, or when they are received not acting on them.
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by Maegan Z. Posted Fri December 26, 2008 @ 5:22 PM
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How long ago was this doll purchased? I heard about this months ago, actually from Snopes.com, the article on it was published back in October. I highly doubt the doll was saying anything about any religion, and really, why would Fisher-Price make their dolls say anything about Islam, or Christianity, etc, but people will hear what they want to hear.
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by Final Score: Boys-3, Girls-1 Posted Fri December 26, 2008 @ 3:22 PM
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It's funny what we convince ourselves we are hearing.
My friend's daughter got a Baby Alive Go Bye-Bye. My friend's name is Melissa. She is convinced that one of the doll's phrases is "Mel-iss-a". She thought maybe the gift-giver programmed the doll as a joke. But no, it came that way. I ended up getting my daughter that same doll for Christmas, and hers says the same thing. I don't know what it is; I'm sure it's probably not "Melissa", but I can't figure out what it is because my mind has convinced my ears that it is "Melissa".
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They are "bucking up". They offered to replace the chip. I don't understand what more you want from them. Do you want them to send someone to the house to do it?
How did it happen? I highly doubt a CSR is going to have the answer to that. Perhaps it was someone on the assembly lines idea of a joke. I'm sure FP is investigating it.
You do know there are Marines who are Muslims, right?
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by calm Posted Fri December 26, 2008 @ 9:04 AM
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Even if that were what the doll was saying, there's nothing wrong with it being put into a children's toy.
There would be something wrong with putting it, or any other religious saying, into a children's toy and not labeling it so that people who do not want their child to have a doll that says "Islam is the light" or "Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior or burn in Hell for all eternity" or "Do what you like so long as nobody else is harmed" or whatever else do not accidentally end up giving their child a doll that says that. In a nation where we all have the right to our own beliefs about deities and about humanity's purpose on the Earth and where different people use that right in different ways, we should not have to worry about our children being proselytized to by toys if we don't want them to be.
And I would think that your husband, being a Marine, would grasp that. This is, of course, the very sort of thing he is asked to risk his life to defend.
But in any case, that's not what the doll says, and Fisher Price is going to replace the chip to ensure that your child doesn't have to hear something that might sound to her like someone who is different from her being proud of who they are.
If I had kids, though, and there were dolls out there that spoke well of religions they weren't learning at home, I would be inclined to go out and get some. That wouldn't be the end of my responsibility to prepare my children to live in a pluralistic world, but it would be a start.
Good luck with the new chip.
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by Not myself today Fri December 26, 2008 @ 10:10 AM
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This was on the news (our local stations had this on right after Thanksgiving)and FP did state they are willing to replace the chips.
If this does not satisfy you then throw the doll away and buy your daughter something else.
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by Nicole F. Posted Thu December 25, 2008 @ 11:07 PM
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I agree that it does kind of sound like that's what they are saying. The dolls have three recordings and one of them sounds like what you are saying.
However, I think someone must have told you about the phrase before you were able to "hear" it.
I help set up the toy shop in my store. Those dolls are motion activated so they were going off all the time. I listened to them go off for hours and hours, day after day, and NEVER did I hear "Islam is the Light."
It was only AFTER I watched a news broadcast about this and then came to work and tried it out that I was able to "hear" the message.
I, personally, thought it was funny and my co-workers did too. But did any of them "hear" the message before I told them? No, they didn't.
It's all psychological, really.
And the message isn't a hate message either.
Personally, I think the dolls are ugly and annoying and if I was a little girl, I wouldn't be interested in them anyways.
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by Not myself today Posted Thu December 25, 2008 @ 10:48 PM
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I'm wondering why that matters. Does he get upset when you say unitelligible things that he misinterprets? Do all marines do this?
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by Durgesh S. Posted Thu December 25, 2008 @ 9:54 PM
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How is Islam a light? Have people forgotten about Sept 11? This is offensive in so many ways. Islam continues to spread terrorism and most of the islamist continue to keep silence. But they were ready to pick battle on Danish cartoon.
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by Blackrack Posted Thu December 25, 2008 @ 9:23 PM
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Yeah, it sort of sounds like it. It also sort of sounds like "Oh ham me all night" and "I can has the bright". The company disproved it, Snopes disproved it, give it a rest.
A question, however. Why would a marine be particularly offended by a pro-Islamic statement?
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by Not myself today Posted Thu December 25, 2008 @ 7:58 PM
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The doll doesn't say "Islam is the light". You say you reserched the internet - that research reveals the doll doesn't actually say that. Some people think that it does. If you think about it, a doll saying "Islam is the light" in English doesn't make any sense, unless this is part of some diabolical plot. I wonder what your daughter would say the doll says. I listened to the recording and it sounds like unintelligibile gobbldygook.
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by Wolf Posted Thu December 25, 2008 @ 7:16 PM
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Snopes.com talks about this. (http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/dolltalk.asp)
It DOES NOT say "Islam is light." But it DOES sound like it does. Yes, I have heard it. Let them fix the chip. It really is not that big of a deal. They are willing to fix it. Let them.
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