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Wal-Mart, Don't Treat Paying Customers Like Criminals!
Posted Thu January 29, 2009 12:00 pm, by jj f. written to Wal-Mart
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Earlier today I met up with my mother to do some shopping at a local Wal-Mart. We had checked out and were almost out to the sidewalk when we heard a security alarm going off. The greeter quickly came out and said she'd need to see our receipts. First she started questioning my mother, asking her how much some specific items in her bags had cost, digging through the bags trying to match things up with the receipt, and then asked her to start walking in and out the door carrying one item at a time. She thought that "something was going on" with the pair of earrings my mom had purchased and made her walk those back and forth. The greeter then started questioning me, putting me through the same strange routine, rifling through my bags, asking questions, etc. She asked me exactly how much the mouse I'd bought cost and told me to point out that line on the receipt. Unfortunately for me, that item was not completely spelled out on the receipt, just very abbreviated, so the greeter took that item to a CSM and asked them to check it out. When she came back I guess she was finally convinced we weren't thieves and told us to go. 15 minutes after the alarm had gone off, we were on our way.
Don't treat paying customers like criminals. Having to go through this at a business we'd just spent a lot of money at was very frustrating and demeaning. Educate door greeters that they are not law enforcement or security personnel and should not act as such. OR, hire law enforcement/security personnel to station the door so they would at least have the training and background to act in that role. Most of the greeters around here are elderly and/or handicapped. Is having them confront potential shoplifters who are trying to leave really the best position to put them in?
I don't want freebies and I'm sure I will shop at Walmart again. I don't really want anything except for my concerns to be heard.
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by tonya k. Posted Mon February 9, 2009 @ 1:54 PM
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my hubby works at walmart and I am in there all the time buying diapers and food. I don't like having to put things such as a gallong of milk in a bag and I ALWAYS get stopped to check my receipt for things not in a bag. I have decided you can't leave walmart completely unless you feel like a criminal. I understand people steal but why should I, with 3 kids, a basket full of groceries, have to stop, find receipt and then that one lil line showing I paid my $3.50 for the milk? overly insane
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by not_in_this_life Posted Fri February 6, 2009 @ 5:30 PM
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Wow...that is a bit much I would say. I would have been livid. Heck, the store I shop at, I see the alarm go off all the time and the employees don't even look! Those things get triggered off on nearly everything.
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by tiffborchardt Posted Tue February 3, 2009 @ 6:10 AM
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The greeters aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. Sounds like they had you doing their work for them. I would have done as suggested before, I paid and I'll be on my way.
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Mon February 2, 2009 @ 12:39 PM
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If this happens again (here or elsewhere), say "If you feel that a crime has been committed, I invite you to contact the police. Otherwise, I'll be on my way."
Yes, this escalates things. But at least it allows you to have what you want: someone trained in law enforcement handling things.
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I may be one of the few people who does not feel the greeter had any right to search your belongings (i.e. your purchases). The last time I was at Walmart, one of the employees asked to see my receipt as I walked out the door. She did that for everyone. But that's as far as it went
And I think that's as far as it should go. When I worked retail, unless we had clear proof (like actually seeing the person steal an item), we couldn't approach them, even if the security alarm went off. If we really had a strong suspicion someone stole something, we were to contact loss prevention or a manager.
But in most cases, rather than err on the side of offending a customer, we didn't question them. That's why I feel this situation was handled quite unprofessionally. The greeter sounds a little, uh, "over-eager."
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WalMart
by amberpisces Tue February 10, 2009 @ 12:14 AM
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by Cherry O. Posted Sun February 1, 2009 @ 8:03 PM
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Well. . . that's how they determine if you may have stolen something. Some people do steal things, and since the WalMart employees do not know you, they cannot know if you have stolen something or not. A good way to speed the process along is to know which items you've purchased are likely to have set off the alarm (you'll usually see the cashier tab or rub them on a pad or designated area of the register). As far as being law enforcement, no, they are not. . . but they are a theoretical line of defense against shoplifting all the same.
Funny thing is, where I used to work, we had no training or authority to stop people who set off the alarm, so we mostly just waved them on. People got angry about /that/, too. As a retail employee, you can't win either way, so you just go with what you've been taught.
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:-p
by Cherry O. Tue February 10, 2009 @ 4:25 PM
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WOW!
by J. Jack Sun February 1, 2009 @ 12:27 AM
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Huh?
by J. Jack Sun February 1, 2009 @ 1:13 AM
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Heck no
by J. Jack Sun February 1, 2009 @ 3:59 PM
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by J. Jack Posted Mon February 2, 2009 @ 2:33 AM
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I appreciate the information
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What?
by J. Jack Mon February 2, 2009 @ 3:55 PM
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by BKarg Posted Fri January 30, 2009 @ 3:09 PM
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This is an illegal act that Walmart believes they are above the law and still tries to enforce.
It is unlawful detention.
You can only stop someone after they've left the store, and if you saw them steal an item. Just like if I saw you steal my wallet in front of me, I can stop you and get it back. If I think you have something of mine, but have no proof, then I can't detain you.
If you detain someone who hasn't stolen anything, then you are violating their rights.
If a Walmart employee tried to detain me, and I hadn't stolen anything, then it is within my right to defend my right to travel. The person attempting the detention is initiating violence/force, and you would be responding with violence/force.
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by MayDay Posted Fri January 30, 2009 @ 10:37 AM
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When they first installed the sensors at the entrance/exit, the greeters had to write down the offending product with the cashiers' operator number. If the cashier had more than 3 items that were not deactivated, then they were terminated. I hope this isn't the rule still but those damn alarms go off constantly. Sometimes due to cell phones and other equipment.
This greeter went overboard with checking out every little thing but maybe that is how she was trained.
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cell phones
by SuzieCat Sat January 31, 2009 @ 11:02 AM
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I had stopped at Walmart one evening for, of all things, a First Response test (you can figure which one for yourself). It was the only item I was purchasing.
For whatever reason it managed to set the sensors off (they have security on those things?) and the elderly greeter takes the test from my bag and flails it in the air, yelling to the cashier "Ethel! Did you forget to deactivate this?" for everyone in the front of the store to see.
I quickly took my item back from her and commented that if I had wanted everyone to know my business, I'd have showed it off myself.
To which she replied "Well if you weren't doing things to get yourself in such a predicament, you wouldn't have anything to worry about, now would you!"
It was all I could do not to hit her!
So long story short, those greeters take their jobs WAY too seriously.
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While I believe the employee had every right to stop you and check your purchases against the receipt if she thought that was necessary, she certainly did handle this in a very unprofessional, unkind manner.
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Many times sensors are not de-activated at the register and will make the alarm go off. When this happens I take my items over to the CS desk ( located near the entrance/exit in ALL their stores) and ask THEM to look through the packages. If there is something with a sensor on it they can then either remove it or pass it over the scanner again to deactivate it.
I NEVER allow the greeter to go through my packages if this happens. They have no clue what to look for in most cases.
If this happens again, ask the greeter to walk you over to the CS desk and that way he/she knows you are going to have this taken care of.
I do like how you ended your letter..."I don't really want anything except for my concerns to be heard." More people should do theirs this way.
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Employees should ask to look in your bags, and should say something like, perhaps a sensor did not deactivated at the register, while checking the receipt for inconsistencies.
There is never an accusation, if there is a inconsistency, they are to alert management who knows how to handle these situations.
It appears some retraining is necessary.
Good Day
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by Donno Posted Thu January 29, 2009 @ 8:54 PM
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There is a police car outside the Wal-Mart 9 out of 10 times I shop - shoplifting is evidently a HUGE problem there.
I have rarely seen a police car outside any other establishment round these parts in 15 years. Maybe 3 times.
Unlike you, I will almost surely NOT shop at Wal-Mart unless I don't have a choice. I don't like the element the store attracts, and they have precious little in product and zero in customer service to offer me.
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by Kelshir Posted Thu January 29, 2009 @ 8:32 PM
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Why did you stop?
I never do.
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I know
by we gotta go! Thu January 29, 2009 @ 8:59 PM
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