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by Adam W. Posted Tue April 7, 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1515861
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by PepperElf Posted Wed March 25, 2009 @ 3:33 AM
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that's why i got a handheld garmin instead
it's not cheap, but... it's a one-time purchase for the unit. after that, i can check my location as much as I want without paying for anything except the electricity to run it.
and, i've been told it's more accurate than the phone GPS apps
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by Ben G. Posted Thu March 12, 2009 @ 1:02 PM
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is reading and looking into all features of it before signing it (this includes checking out the equipment and making sure all questions are answered before the sale).
Because you have the free right to shop for phone service where you want to, you need to assert the responsibility of the place you choose to go with. This mean abiding by:
A. Their equipment (including the UI)
B. Their terms
C. Their contract rates.
There are no rights without responsibility. Is it selfish for VZW to lock out GPS and make you pay for navigator? Maybe.
But it does not mean they should have to change because it was not properly researched by the user.
The problem is people think that they have an individual right, but put the responsibility of that right on everyone else (namely trying to make the phone carrier change to make that person happy).
Its a bad craziness that is starting to fill this country.
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What you just described is the essence of the customer/business relationship.
The letter writer isn't asking for his money back - he's simply providing feedback to Verizon Wireless about one of their products.
Without feedback, how in the world would a company know what their customers thought about their products?
Without feedback, how would a company know there was a potential issue with their product?
Without feedback, how would a company have the opportunity to identify an issue and correct it? Or, better yet, improve it?
Verizon Wireless can make whatever business decisions they wish regardless of the feedback they receive. However, to suggest that customers not tell companies what they think about their products and services is to cut off a vital lifeline that must be in place in order for companies to move forward.
One huge example of this is AOL. For a long time, AOL was THE internet product of choice for mass market consumers. Yet they fell from that perch and fell hard. Why? Because they didn't listen to their customers and react fast enough. Offering a "walled garden" experience was ok for awhile but eventually their customers wanted more access to the internet at large and provided a TON of feedback on the matter. AOL, in their arrogance, didn't react and the result was a mass migration away from their product. AOL had every right to keep their product the same and not change just to make someone happy yet, in the end, it cost them big time. And by the time they did start making changes, it was too late and now they're really nothing but a shell of their former selves.
It's well known that, out of all the carriers, Verizon Wireless is the most restrictive when it comes to letting their customers enjoy the full capabilities of their phones. At the moment, that hasn't hurt them too badly because, frankly, the mass market consumer doesn't really care about being able to use the native GPS on their phone nor is there a huge market for using the phone as a GPS navigation device as opposed to using the stand alone GPS devices which have flooded the automobile market.
Yet, feedback like Adam's is the early warning system which should alert Verizon Wireless that there is a growing segment of users who do value such capabilities. And, from the sound of it, Verizon has listened and is going to be less restrictive in the future regarding the native GPS capabilities on their phones.
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by ♫Venice♫ Thu March 12, 2009 @ 5:28 PM
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by Adam W. Posted Thu March 12, 2009 @ 9:25 PM
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Technology is based on what the customer WANTS. If VZW continues to come out with phones with disabled features then people will start leaving VZW.
There have been bad ideas in technology in the past. Does anyone remember when Circuit City introduced DIVX (not the same as today's DIVX.) It was a DVD that needed to be hooked up to a special DVD player that had a modem and would allow you to "purchase" the DVD at Circuit City but you could only watch it for a certain amount of time since you rented it.
Complicated? Sure is, Bad idea? Sure is. Where is Circuit City today?
The company then went and got rid of all the items in the store. When you walked into one you saw TV's but no cables. They were hard to find. Retailers make a larger profit on cables then on TV's yet they thought it was a good idea to hide them where nobody would see them. I'm getting off track here but even I could have told them that was a bad idea.
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by jeishere Posted Thu March 12, 2009 @ 9:23 AM
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I am a Verizon customer and know that Verizon does lock out a lot of features that are built into the phone by the manufacture. The even put their own screens and menus on the phones. So someone with Razr phone with another carrier has a much different UI (the manufactures) than I do on my phone (Verizon's UI). They do lock out the GPS functionality on many phones so you have to buy the VZ Navigator and pay $9.99/month instead of using google maps for free.
It really doesn't matter if the OP knew about this beforehand or not. It something he doesn't like about Verizon and as a customer (probably locked in a contract) he has the right the express his concern.
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I'm assuming you were aware of these limitations when you purchased the phone?
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fine
by Dru Wed March 11, 2009 @ 11:36 PM
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Tue March 10, 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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It is selfish of them. So what? They are a business. That's how business works.
If you don't like it, then you should certainly stop giving them your money. If enough people stop giving VW business, then maybe they'll change this.
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Adam..you know they are not going to do this no matter how many people ask. NYC is so easy to find your way around, you don't need any of that!
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