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by Adam W. Posted Tue April 7, 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1515861
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by PepperElf Posted Wed March 25, 2009 @ 3:33 AM
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that's why i got a handheld garmin instead
it's not cheap, but... it's a one-time purchase for the unit. after that, i can check my location as much as I want without paying for anything except the electricity to run it.
and, i've been told it's more accurate than the phone GPS apps
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What you just described is the essence of the customer/business relationship.
The letter writer isn't asking for his money back - he's simply providing feedback to Verizon Wireless about one of their products.
Without feedback, how in the world would a company know what their customers thought about their products?
Without feedback, how would a company know there was a potential issue with their product?
Without feedback, how would a company have the opportunity to identify an issue and correct it? Or, better yet, improve it?
Verizon Wireless can make whatever business decisions they wish regardless of the feedback they receive. However, to suggest that customers not tell companies what they think about their products and services is to cut off a vital lifeline that must be in place in order for companies to move forward.
One huge example of this is AOL. For a long time, AOL was THE internet product of choice for mass market consumers. Yet they fell from that perch and fell hard. Why? Because they didn't listen to their customers and react fast enough. Offering a "walled garden" experience was ok for awhile but eventually their customers wanted more access to the internet at large and provided a TON of feedback on the matter. AOL, in their arrogance, didn't react and the result was a mass migration away from their product. AOL had every right to keep their product the same and not change just to make someone happy yet, in the end, it cost them big time. And by the time they did start making changes, it was too late and now they're really nothing but a shell of their former selves.
It's well known that, out of all the carriers, Verizon Wireless is the most restrictive when it comes to letting their customers enjoy the full capabilities of their phones. At the moment, that hasn't hurt them too badly because, frankly, the mass market consumer doesn't really care about being able to use the native GPS on their phone nor is there a huge market for using the phone as a GPS navigation device as opposed to using the stand alone GPS devices which have flooded the automobile market.
Yet, feedback like Adam's is the early warning system which should alert Verizon Wireless that there is a growing segment of users who do value such capabilities. And, from the sound of it, Verizon has listened and is going to be less restrictive in the future regarding the native GPS capabilities on their phones.
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by Ben G. Posted Thu March 12, 2009 @ 2:15 PM
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because the letter on its face sounded like he was blaming Verizon for "crippling his phone" and calling them "money hungry" for it.
I pointed out that had he not signed on with verizon, and instead said something to them like:
"I would sign a contract with you, but the fact that manufacturers GPS is not available in lieu of your own navigator, I will not buy from you"
Same goes for buying a car. You don't buy a car unless it has all the features you want in it. Do you not do the research on a phone as well as the service provider because its not as expensive? The principle doesn't change in my mind, but maybe it does in the letter writers mind because he is not spending as much money as you do buying a car.
That right there is where he went wrong.
Instead, he signed a contract, did not look into the facts of what they offered, and called the company "money hungry" for doing so, when he had the right in the first place to not shop their at all.
That is the point of my post.
I do believe in customer feedback to the company. I agree that it is vital as well. I am a manager in a high-volume restaurant and receive feedback every shift that I work.
However, more and more people are not taking the responsibility of their right to shop where they choose by:
Not reading the return policy (I.E. target letters)
Not reading the contract (this letter)
Not doing their research (this and many other letters)
If I am committing myself to two years knowing their will be fees to cancel, you bet I will read every single document to make sure I understand what I am signing.
I assert the responsibility for the right to shop where I want.
The letter writer did not indicate that he was doing the same. That is the craziness I was pointing out.
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by ♫Venice♫ Thu March 12, 2009 @ 5:28 PM
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by jeishere Posted Thu March 12, 2009 @ 9:23 AM
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I am a Verizon customer and know that Verizon does lock out a lot of features that are built into the phone by the manufacture. The even put their own screens and menus on the phones. So someone with Razr phone with another carrier has a much different UI (the manufactures) than I do on my phone (Verizon's UI). They do lock out the GPS functionality on many phones so you have to buy the VZ Navigator and pay $9.99/month instead of using google maps for free.
It really doesn't matter if the OP knew about this beforehand or not. It something he doesn't like about Verizon and as a customer (probably locked in a contract) he has the right the express his concern.
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I'm assuming you were aware of these limitations when you purchased the phone?
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fine
by Dru Wed March 11, 2009 @ 11:36 PM
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Tue March 10, 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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It is selfish of them. So what? They are a business. That's how business works.
If you don't like it, then you should certainly stop giving them your money. If enough people stop giving VW business, then maybe they'll change this.
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Adam..you know they are not going to do this no matter how many people ask. NYC is so easy to find your way around, you don't need any of that!
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