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Defective DVD Navigation System in Ford Fusion

Posted Mon May 4, 2009 12:00 pm, by Gregory C. written to Ford Motor Company

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On May 22, 2008, I took delivery of a 2008 Ford Fusion. This vehicle was equipped with the new voice-activated DVD navigation system, an option that cost me $1895.

Last month, the USB port on the navigation stopped functioning. This means that I am no longer able to sync my iPod through the system or update the system software.

After working with online support, I was directed to take the vehicle to my local dealer, Etter Ford of Crawfordsville, IN. They informed that either the cable or the interface module had failed. Note that these components are sealed inside the center console of the car, unaccessible to the consumer.

They further stated that since my car the mileage on my car was 37,500 miles, I was outside of the 3-year 36,000 mile warranty and I would be responsible for the estimated $700 cost of this repair.

I contacted Ford's Customer Relationship Center and asked that Ford cover this obviously defective part under warranty. I was told that I would receive a reply within 4 business days.

After receiving no reply, I followed up with the Customer Relationship Center. The representative informed me that Ford would NOT stand behind its product and would NOT assist me with this repair. A very unpleasant supervisor merely kept repeating this decision and chided me for not purchasing the "extended warranty."

The components in my navigation were obviously defective. Bear in the mind that this is a sealed system and driving or wear and tear should not affect it.

I want Ford to repair my navigation under its warranty provisions. It is patently absurd to refuse any assistance to a consumer because a LESS THAN ONE YEAR OLD vehicle is 1,500 miles over warranty.

I have previously recommended Ford vehicles to my family members. However, based on my experience with this Ford Fusion and the supervisor at your Customer "Relationship" Center, I will NEVER purchase or recommend Ford to anyone again.

I sincerely hope that Ford will choose to honor its commitment to its customers and stand behind its products.


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by dogie Posted Thu November 10, 2011 @ 9:24 PM

try disconnecting battery for 5 minuits we have found that apple ipod
pluged into the usb port locks the system up
i work in a ford dealer in ottawa
tom

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by mjen2010 Posted Wed June 8, 2011 @ 2:17 PM

My navigation system went out at about 2 years 12thousand miles and I
was told by the ford people that to repair it will cost 1000 dallars
and I had to pay. They only warenty they nav system for 1 year 12000
miles. Seeing that I have to pay 2000 for the system and then 200 a
year extra for the nav CDs I will NEVER purchace another ford EVER and
ive been a ford owner since 1990. NEVER AGAIN! Chevy will get ALL my
business from now on.

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by IndyGreg Posted Fri May 8, 2009 @ 12:41 PM

OP here. I have done some additional research on the problem with my
SYNC navigation system.

When I called Sync support, when I went to the Ford dealer, and when I
spoke with the Customer Relationship Center, I was told that Ford was
not aware of any issues like the one I described with my system.

However, Ford Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) 09-7-9 dated April 2,
2009 describes EXACTLY the problem I am having with my unit and the
steps to fix it.

Further, it describes early symptoms of intermittent operation and
spontaneous muting. These problems were occurring with my system for
several months (well within the 36K mile limit.) I thought it might be
my iPod, since it would work again after a minute or two. My $1,800
stereo was the last thing I suspected.

So, Ford KNEW about this problem. Ford told me they did not know
about the problem. Ford refuses to stand behind its products when
they know they are defective.

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Exactly! by MA Cunningham Mon May 11, 2009 @ 9:00 AM

They don't always know..... by rentalracer Tue May 12, 2009 @ 4:33 PM


by MA Cunningham Posted Tue May 5, 2009 @ 1:05 PM

mycarstats.com?

They keep track of common complaints that owners make about their cars
and somehow manage to find out about Service Reports that are sent to
dealerships alerting them when certain cars or components are
beginning to become problematic. It may be that this interface is
defective in other Fusions as well and Ford is aware of it?

I can see where you would need to have this fixed by them as it's not
a battery or a set of tires that you can easily have changed or
repaired yourself.

Good luck!

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by Just Jeffrey Posted Tue May 5, 2009 @ 9:07 AM

I know this is not an answer to your issue, but since PlanetFeedback's
mission is as a resource to consumers, I have a suggestion:

When buying a car, consider not buying the built-in GPS system or
entertainment (DVD) center. Not only can they be much more expensive
than an after-market option, but they are often easier to fix/replace.
And that can be especially nice if you want to upgrade the
technology.

For example, you can buy a fantastic GPS system for under $500. Maybe
even $200. You can buy a portable DVD player for $200; closer to $100
on sale. So, even if these things failed and you threw them out, it'd
still take buying several before you hit what you'd pay for factory
installed.

Yes, the factory installed options often fit nicely within the car (as
opposed to you needing to have a mount or other solution) and, in
theory, they give the peace of mind of working well with the car.
But, unless these things are worth paying 2-4x as much to you (and
they might be), it's at least worth taking a look at other options.

I've seen people that bought a factory installed GPS a few year back,
only to not use it because it doesn't speak street names or because it
doesn't do traffic. So, they have this $1500 thing in their dash that
never gets used. But, attatched to their window is a $250 GPS unit
that does text-to-speech and traffic and has updated maps and...

It's a matter of choice, of course.

As for your particular issue: I agree, warranties stink. But the
question is: will any car company agree to a free warranty extension?
If so, go buy a car from that company.

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Some Manufacturers Stand Behind the Products by IndyGreg Tue May 5, 2009 @ 11:01 AM


Nissan... by PepperElf Wed May 6, 2009 @ 7:34 AM
by Batman Posted Mon May 4, 2009 @ 11:19 PM

You go to Best Buy and buy the same thing, the company has a 1 year
warranty. MINIMUM.
Don't listen to these chowder heads who have nothing better to do in
life than sit here 24 hours a day and criticize people for
complaining. They are busy bodies, and have no purpose in life,
apparently.
You paid good money for this system, and you should not have to buy an
extended warranty that they would try to wiggle their way out of
honoring. I have zero doubts they would claim that is not covered by
their extended warranty. And, even if it were, how much was the
extended warranty?
The fact of the matter is, they need to honor it. And, if need be,
this is one of those conditions the govt. (in my opinion) needs to
force the industry to change. Personally, I don't mind having an Xyr/x
mile warranty. BUT, it should always be in favor of the consumer:
whichever comes last! In your case, the 3 years. (Of course, it seems
you would have close to 100k miles by then, and perhaps lots of
damage, but, oh well).
Also, remind Ford that they played the "Pass the Customer Around Until
The Wararnty Expires" game. What was your mileage when you FIRST
contacted them? Make them prove you were out of warranty.

On the otherhand, I do have a suggestion for future letters. You
state, "I have previously recommended Ford vehicles to my family
members. However, based on my experience with this Ford Fusion and the
supervisor at your Customer "Relationship" Center, I will NEVER
purchase or recommend Ford to anyone again." Then you ask them to
honor its commitement and to stand behind its products. I would
recommend changing this to "If (insert company name here) can't help
resolve this issue, I will never purchase or recommend your company or
it's poroducts again". The difference is, you are allowing them to fix
the problem, but, letting them know the consequences of not.
Good luck, I hope they will fix the issue without further incident or
without legal recourse. But...

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This isn't Krypton by Donno Mon May 4, 2009 @ 11:34 PM


That makes no sense.. by Harley Has A New Cat Tue May 5, 2009 @ 8:25 AM


I think that by Just Brenda Tue May 5, 2009 @ 8:32 AM


by RedheadwGlasses Posted Mon May 4, 2009 @ 9:19 PM

I would just like to say, I just got rid of my 16-year-old zero-frills
(no power windows or locks, even!) pickup and got a nice 2005 Camry.
I can't tell you how thrilled I am to have (1) cup holders, (2) CD
player, and (3) INTERMITTENT WIPERS. Oh my god, I have been missing
out!

I don't think I want more gadgets--I'd just miss 'em after they broke
down on me! ;)

I feel for you. I suppose the fact that you exceeded 36,000 miles
means you used that navigation system a lot, but... I don't see how
that could happen after just a year.

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INTERMITTENT WIPERS by Donno Mon May 4, 2009 @ 10:17 PM
by Lisa H. Posted Mon May 4, 2009 @ 6:22 PM

I have a question. You say the USB port is part of a sealed system,
but I don't understand how you would use a port unless it is
accessable?

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could the OP mean this ? by Bill R. Mon May 4, 2009 @ 6:34 PM


Meaning of Sealed by IndyGreg Mon May 4, 2009 @ 10:30 PM

by Harley Has A New Cat Posted Mon May 4, 2009 @ 4:33 PM

The fact of the matter is Ford did honor their commitment to you.
Their commitment was 3 years/36,000 miles whichever comes first. In
your case, the 36,000 miles.

Electronic systems can go bad even if they are sealed. It sounds like
you do a lot of driving and use your system a lot. I think the
supervisor was right, if I did the amount of driving you did, I would
have purchased an extended warranty.

We currently own 5 Fords and have never had a problem getting Ford to
honor any warranty repair within the warranty period.

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by Donno Posted Mon May 4, 2009 @ 2:57 PM

But you no longer have a warranty - it expired 1500 miles ago. The
car came with a 36,000 mile warranty, not 37,501. You are in the
position of asking for a favor, not something that you are due.

What if it was a window regulator, or the ignition switch broke, or
the bumper came loose? All of these would meet with the same response
- your vehicle is no longer under warranty. There are numerous
non-wear items on your car - the vast majority of them are not covered
after 36,000 miles as well. It would only be something like paint,
emissions, or powertrain equipment that have any warranty left.

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Noooooooo by Batman Mon May 4, 2009 @ 11:06 PM

"Pass the customer around"? You seem to have some inside knowledge by Steve-OH Tue May 5, 2009 @ 8:43 AM

by RowdyRetailer Posted Mon May 4, 2009 @ 12:19 PM

Im assuming you bought the car new, which is, in opinion, a waste of
money. You are buying something, sinking alot of money into something
that you are essentially destroying when you drive it.

Saying that, you drove 37k miles in one year, assuming it was not a
demo or used.

I stay away from most "fancy" products. I dont even know what half the
things you said about syncing,or interface modules.

I buy a car to drive, not to sync or interface with. The more options
you get when you buy a car the more likely something will break.

Case in point, you are out of luck, you are out of warranty.

I think Ford is the best of the worst in American cars, but I would
still never own one. You are out of warranty, and in their cost
cutting climate, you may be out of luck with your syncing.

Good Day


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Driving around without a Nav system by Donno Mon May 4, 2009 @ 2:58 PM


Ha! Not me! by RedheadwGlasses Mon May 4, 2009 @ 9:36 PM

37K is a LOT by jeishere Mon May 4, 2009 @ 4:33 PM


OP replies to Messages by IndyGreg Mon May 4, 2009 @ 10:22 PM

Have we forgotten? Yes we have by Batman Mon May 4, 2009 @ 11:27 PM


While it would be nice.. by Harley Has A New Cat Tue May 5, 2009 @ 8:30 AM


With all due respect.... by IndyGreg Tue May 5, 2009 @ 10:45 AM


What I was trying to say.,.. by Harley Has A New Cat Tue May 5, 2009 @ 12:02 PM




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