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Our local Target store PROHIBITS their employees from smoking near or around the front entrance to the store and have signs posted reading as such.
Their employees are to go to the rear exits of the store or a side exit NOT located near a customer entrance if they choose to smoke.
The reason some choose to go to the main entrance is because it is closer to where they work usually customer service or the registers.
I assume since Target would take into consideration that their customers who have to go through the smoke to get to the stores find this uncomfortable let alone a health risk.
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I often have the Girl Scouts in front of my store.
I had to send one troop home packing after I caught the troop leaders puffing at my front entrance in front of my customers but also the children!!!
I get alot of different troops so with every request I told them not to do this, because of this happening quite frequently.
You can never protect your children from "toxins". Someone is going to smoke in front of them, Im not saying its right to, but it will happen.
I personally think its worse to be sitting on an airplane with a guy that probably smoked his whole pack before he got on his flight, knowing he couldnt in the air, than walking through a quick puff.
I respect your endeavor, but be ready to write notes and make phone calls to many businesses, schools, Girl scout troops, etc.
Good Day
Good Day
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by Erin L. Posted Wed May 6, 2009 @ 11:33 PM
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I agree! I'm personally allergic to smoke and avoid places where I know it will occur (bars, clubs, bowling alleys, etc.). For those that say walking through that 3 second smoke cloud won't hurt you I give you this...that smoke then clings to your hair, your clothes...it follows you home. I avoid those situations whenever possible because i'll have to shower ASAP if I do walk through that cloud...to get the smell off of me, or else by the next day i'll be sick. Just because smokers want to smoke doesn't mean they have the right to object me or my family to it, have some respect for others who don't share your lifestyle choices...walk away from entrances to buildings before you light up!
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Some of the replies to the OP's letter have been awesome and I decided to add something else.
I feel that the right to smoke is the same as your freedom of speech - Yes you have the right to say whatever you want until the point of you offending someone. Yes I have the right to free speech, but I'm not going to call my boyfriend or his family "spic's".
Similarly you shouldn't smoke where it offends. My family does not smoke, therefore I do not smoke at family functions. When I'm at work I smoke out by the dumpsters because I don't want kids to see me smoking. Cartoons no longer have the characters smoking.
Yes, smoking is legal, but so is drinking - and we only do that in designated areas and times as well.
Just a thought.
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by kkleach Posted Wed May 6, 2009 @ 5:47 PM
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I used to smoke, but I have to agree with Sarah. Honestly, I don't think that the ashtrays should be placed right in front of the doors. When I smoked, I respected other people's rights and if I was smoking before entering the store, I would put my cigarette out first and then put it into the ashtray. I think that they, along with the other major retailers, should move the ashtrays to the farthest right-side of the building. Additionally, employees should only be allowed to smoke at the back of the store.
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by PepperElf Posted Wed May 6, 2009 @ 3:14 PM
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Now in my opinion if it was 30 seconds of exposure to a toxic gas (like H2S)I'd be very upset, however... I have yet to see any studies proving that a low occasional exposure to second hand smoke will hurt anyone.
Plus the area is very well ventilated - can't any better than the open air.
but... yes, forcing employees to walk around to the back of the store (especially if it's not well lit) could be very dangerous.
However, if the sight of someone doing something legal is that reprehensible to enough people... I suppose the best answer would be to provide a small smoking gazebo in a well lit area.
The Target I go to has a good spot in the front that's far enough away from the main doors that customers wouldn't be walking by it normally. Yes they could probably still see the gazebo... but hey to totally escape the sight of cigarettes you'd have to get rid of television, movies, and stop going to any store that sells them... so I'm sure people would survive seeing the gazebo.
... provided the people who use it clean up after themselves.
That's my *only* smoking pet peeve - people who think the rest of the world is an ashtray. Those people should have every butt they throw on the ground magically follow them home and sit on their kitchen floor.
The ones who clean up after themselves of course would likewise get a magical bonus.. say a magically cleaned floor.
Where's that D20 when I need it most...
ironically though I don't smoke and like to breath... however ... I also acknowledge that these employees are all humans. I don't expect them to be robots who never smoke or drink, as long as they do it legally
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If your state has an anti-smoking law, they could be in violation of that law. In Minnesota, I believe the says that you have to stay at least 25 feet away from building entrances when you smoke.
(I like the comparison to the girl scout cookies!)
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by Mary H. Posted Wed May 6, 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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I agree that smoking employees are disgusting....put them outside and behind the building.
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by Maegan Z. Posted Wed May 6, 2009 @ 10:41 AM
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When I worked for Origins, everytime we attended a training we went to the Bachman's corporate headquarters in Minneapolis. Any of the Origins associates that smoked were instructed by our educator that they were to smoke behind the building out of view of customers, and they had to remove their Origins aprons so customers would not associate smoking with the Origins company. They were also encouraged to remove their aprons before smoke breaks back at their own stores, again so smoking and Origins wouldn't be linked. I think all companies should encourage, if not enforce, their employees that smoke to do it in the back of the building, out of consideration for their customers, and to keep the company image up.
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by Donno Posted Wed May 6, 2009 @ 9:23 AM
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This has been discussed here before; I think the store was WalMart. People offered responses ranging from the store offering smoking cessation classes to theft-by-employee out the back door concerns to having a smoking room (yuck).
I hold my breath when I walk through these clouds. It is a momentary disturbance. It is unsightly and unsettling to see these smokestacks lingering near the store entrance, kind of like walking past a prison and seeing the inmates standing around. Smokers have been pretty much shoved into the ashtray of society, and I am thankful for the freedom of clean air I can enjoy in most all places. I find the smell very annoying myself, though I think the health impact over a few seconds of smoke are small.
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by jeishere Posted Wed May 6, 2009 @ 8:35 AM
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While I agree that employees of any establishment should not be smoking by the front door, it always kind of bugged me that normal health people act like they are going to keel over because the walk 3 seconds through a cloud of smoke. I know it smells nasty and all the rest, but I don't think a couple seconds of exposure can cause any health problems for a healthy person.
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by Wolf Wed May 6, 2009 @ 2:54 PM
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hmmm..
by jeishere Wed May 6, 2009 @ 3:53 PM
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Look
by Wolf Wed May 6, 2009 @ 4:07 PM
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Wow Sarah thats horrible! You should check your state laws about that because in Maryland you have to be fifty feet from an entrance to a public place to smoke. Not that that ever happens - but charges can be drawn up against the buildings owners for violating the law.
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also
by kyrah n. Fri May 8, 2009 @ 8:10 PM
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